The only time anyone official appears to read, or comment on, anything in these forums is if you place a post in the first three pages of a Friday update thread.

If you put something relevant there (hopefully the next update - videos, apparently - will feature a Spit cockpit) you can be pretty sure Ilya or Oleg will read it, even if you don't get any response.

Good luck.

PS. Oleg's inbox appears to be perpetually full but you could try PM'ing Luthier.

The difference seem substantial. Of course its possible the Spitfire cockpit in the updates is not actually the layout of the Mk I we will see in the final release version.

Do remember many of the posters that "do not care about the cockpit" do not care because they will be flying online in wonder women mode with cockpit off anyway.

A picture speaks a thousand words. With some posters saying whats all the fuss over one gauge or switch. Here is the cockpit as seen on the Collectors edition site http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/en...s-Edition.html , an apparent current image. Now it is said that the sim features a Mk1a, 1b and a ll. If the image is of the 1a or 1b then marked in yellow are the errors. Sometime in the future the team will need to deal with these, they for the moment give us a MkV. If the team has photographed a Mk1 surviving nowadays then these represent the modifications carried out since the Battle of Britain, but I would hope they have not fallen into the trap of thinking what they see now has not changed since 1940. We have no readout for the 48 gal tank, no landing lamp control, no time of trip clock as per 1940, no amps gauge, no dual fuel cock, things that are part of the actual control of the aircraft. If that is , the image is supposed to be a Mk1.
http://www.aerographics.demon.co.uk/...rors_ifMk1.jpg
I hope the image allows better understanding of my hopes for a Mk1, and of those others who have expressed a wish to get it right. I realise there are those who dont care what it looks like, quite happy to have grey/green spits attacking 109F's, loving the beautiful artwork, but there are those who want 1940 and the basic stuff accurate. I see the Battle of Britain Cliffs of Dover Collectors box on that site has a non Battle of Britain later war camo and roundels artwork cover by the way, is not the cover of such an item important to get right, perhaps not.

BOBC

I totally agree with the rest of your post, BOBC. I'm glad there are people like you and Rodolphe pointing out these small issues (or in the case of the Spit cockpit, rather a large one when they're all put together), even if you do get a lot of flak for doing so. I don't understand that, after all, it's the most constructive kind of criticism that the game will get. Perhaps you should try directly messaging Oleg or luthier?
However, I suspect the cover art is the responsibility of the publisher.

Thanks for the Info BOBC.
Lets hope it is tweaked with later patches... In the past the IL2 series have had a good history of providing patches.... not just releasing a game and running. One good thing will come of this...is that the Spit V is already half modeled..:grin:

I personally see your concerns, and it looks like it would in fact be a fairly glaring issue for a true fan of the Spitfire (as you must be), but at the same time the majority of users will never realize this. It is nice to see someone point these things out in a courteous and respectful manner, and your knowledge on the subject is astounding. I have to say though with the time and money involved in creating these cockpits I would honestly rather see them make cockpits for other aircraft than do such a major overhaul of what is for all intents and purposes close enough for most users.

I love old warbirds, a huge fan of many of the WW2 birds in particular, but I couldn't honestly tell you the difference between a Spitfire MK1/MK2 much less many of the minutiae differences between the a's and b's subvariants. I think many of us (those that initially accused you of whining and moaning) have just gotten so used to people being rude and over the top with the pointing out of small details that we've become callous towards people that bring up such issues over the last few months.

I am more interested in the flight and damage models personally, but incorrect gauges from one variant to the other really aren't going to ruin my fun or my immersion. I hope you do get some kind of response BOBC, and it would be neat if these issues get fixed, but don't get your hopes up and don't let that spoil it for you.

Thank you for the information and your politeness.

i was cutting a customers hair the other day and he was a retired RAF engineer,he didnt join until 1949 so missed the war work but his knowledge of Spitfires and other planes was impressive to me and some of the polish ww2 pilots hed known and discussed stuff with and he was tellinng me some Spitfire version built particularly for a type of mission only 2 were made etc,i got his email address if i want to ask him anything.wish i was more knowledgable so i could ask him more.

So if it's a MkII what is wrong with the layout?

Cheers!

Considering the lengthy threads crated by u i assume u are 100% sure its infact a Mk1 cockpit we are looking at and not a MkII...right?


Thats kind of the first things that needs to be established, dont u think? If for no other reason than to save u a hell of alot of work.


BTW, to highlight the electrical cord from the gunsight just to have more yellow=misstake, is a bit.....anal if u ask me. Assuming that all the cords where the exact same length and made the exact same loop on all the spits produced is putting way to much trust on the production line imo (especially after X amount of field repairs etc.Im referring to how the referance pics used to create the 3D model looked)

I am lucky, I never look at the cockpits, too busy shooting things.