Ati 4850/4870
 

Here you can read a good rewiev of ATI 4850/4870: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/148...ion/index.html

In PT Boats, a game of 1C, Nvidia cards runs better. Seems this game optimised for Nvidia. Will be the same for Storm of War?

4S_Nero

Thanks for posting that test.

I think your question resulting from the test is also a good example how many people think: If I get more FPS with this card in this game, then it must be better.

Or even better: The game was optimized for this card.

To be honest, most of the time it is the exact other way. Drivers are optimized for games, especially to benchmark games, because they know exactly, that there are many people who just think just like what you just posted. nVidia is renown or better hated for that tactics by fans and enemies alike, because this advantage in speed comes with the price of a lack in quality of the rendering, especially in texture-filters and texturing of objects over distances.

The problem is, maximum FramesPerSecond is not the only important thing about graphics, as it says nothing about the rendering quality, stability of FPS and even less about the hardware used.

I know my question may seem superficial or stupid but my ignorance about video card is big. I need only some help because i need to buy a new video card. Now i play IL2 with ATI1950 pro 512 ;)

It's a pretty common opinion, nothing else, and I perfectly understand it.

I don't need to get a new gfx-card, honestly, but considering the bang for the money and the upcoming games (BlackShark and BoB) I consider getting an AMD/ATI HD4870. It's slightly slower than nVidias, but considerably cheaper than the nVidia-competitors and consumes less power, thus stays cooler.

I'll wait another few weeks probably, until both start fighting with even lower prices. ;)

Me too :grin:

For TODAY'S games, either camp will do/run them with high settings, good IQ and decent frames with relative ease. The NV8800GT/GTS cards are still fantastic bang for buck. They aren't as fast (in raw power) as the latest from Nvidia (GTX260/280) or ATI (4850/4870)but are still a great solution for most people in the single-card setups and even good solutions for those wanting to run SLI.

I have a single NV8800GTS 512 right now and have great IQ. I run 8xAA, 16xAF globally (though AF has little benefit for IL2) and rarely, if ever, go below 50 FPS and typically stay in the 70's at 1680x1050.

The true question should be: Which platform will run the next-gen games/sims with the best frames and the best IQ? There's no way to know that right now. Maddox has used NV cards for years in most of their pc's (according to interviews and readme files of the past) and likely will continue to do so (speculation) as long as NV stays on the front side of the performance curve.

I like the status of ATI these days and the release of the 4870 card is showing to be a great card with fantastic performance to price point.

I'm still leaning towards a GTX280 myself, but will wait until the price comes down. Perhaps one of the better cards right now is the GTX260 which is comparable in price to the ATI card with similar performance in some areas and even better in others.

Here are a few benchmark graphs from assorted (trusted) sites:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...70vsgtx260.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...6/17131yk9.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...56/cod4_02.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...56/etqw_02.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...c-1920-bar.jpg

and some links:
http://translate.google.fi/translate...hl=en&ie=UTF-8
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...r_hd4850/7.htm

i don´t know what this means for you ?
the compared ati 9550 was an officecard and was not a gamercard. i had in these times an ati 9500pro which was middleclass but much faster then a 9550.
i´ve got no problem with someone who has no clue of hardware, but then don´t post some useless comments. if someone need help in this i will help.
btw. try to put some fans in your tower that can help to your overheating problem.

@4S_Nero

to the ati 4850/70:
the power for this price they is absolutly great. enough performance for every game today
but nobody can know what kind of card you need for storm of war. i think even oleg can´t tell it at this moment.
i would prefer the ati because the price is very good for the performance. but if you want about ~30% more power for ~200% more money, then you should buy the nv 280gtx.

the nv 260gtx is close to the 4870 form the performance but about 50€ more expensive (in germany).

What kind of game is storm of war? i never heard about it.

Here are the results of the F.E.A.R. F.E.AR. Exctraction point and F.E.A.R. PERSEUS MANDATE that i did on my system. (full settings 4xaa 1280x1024http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1340/fearnewrt4.jpg

I build gaming rigs for a living, i have custom built hundreds of rigs to meet the customers requirements with all manner of SLI and Crossfire setups, I personally use 2 8800GTX cards in SLI and they are superb, however i have to say that i always thought that IL2 looked better on ATI cards regardless of performance they just simply seem to render IL2 better than Nvidia cards. I cannot really speak for any other games, but if ATi have produced a fast card with good drivers then i feel it will have the edge (looks wise) over Nvidia at this moment in time.