well i have to say compare to COD, the pics are weak!you can tell its the texture which will look blurry from close again, plus it looks unbalanced with the trees sticking out like that and the sea is far from feeling like a real one, i have to say COD won this one easily.

That is precisely the point: If any of them call themselves, seriously, "pilots", they are nerds.


No son, I refrain from taking this title as I have a real life too. ;)
Try to keep a healthy distance.

really? i have to say if you follow the updates developments closely its not extra rounding, its more than that, its the love for detail, the feeling to make things looks good and right from any view , and the extra new features, like working fluids in the planes, advanced physics, FM and tons of other new stuff, but your right why the fingerpointing, these 2 games cannot be compare, they are way different.

If Cliffs of Dover looks anything like the initial FSX graphics, I will throw up on my keyboard. That said those screenshot look very good, but I wouldn't pass judgment until I seen low level videos of MS Flight. Also Microsoft's has a history of false advertising.

I know the FM won't be as good as COD, but it doesn't have to be that good, as I'd be just sightseeing, navigationing, and pushing buttons, rather than flying combat.

Please, no one called anyone nerd here in this thread before this post? I just pointed out that the "new" engine from Microsoft is just the old stiff from the axed Aces Studio with some new lip stick - so no need for Oleg to worry they may be cooking CFS4 :) Well, I also own FSX and play it occasionally. I have never liked the graphics engine though,especially down low, and the fact that a company with MS muscles could not fix the dx10 support after using that feature to market Me 2 is interesting when complaining that CoD will not have Dx11 from start.

Regarding calling people nerds I thougt that it was something most people stopped doing after high school when they stopped being concerned about trying to be like the coolest guys in school? And yes, I was one of those cool guys that did not dare keep up my programming I had done before high school to risk beeing called nerd (it was like that in the mid-late 80:ies). So instead I called other insecure kids nerds and got laughs from the other guys and girls in the high status gang at school... Like a damn cheesy high school movie from Hollywood ;) Finally I got enough confidence to realize I could be a computer nerd and still get invited to the cool parties and date the cute girls that I wanted etc, but that confidence was gained by pushing others down calling them nerds etc and they never got out of it until moving somewhere else to college where very few in Sweden at least continue calling people nerds because of their interests...

Way off topic there ;)

Proprietary cr@p silverlight, no thanks.

I prefer Silverlight to Flash - by miles ...

i cant see anything, and yes i installed silverlight

actually, MSflight isn't a real contender with Oleg's new product.

these guys are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfE_4JzwR4

But only if and when they or anyone that is gonna use this product starts making stuff that allows you to use ww 2 warbirds much like Cliffs of Dover....

IL-2:CoD only real competition today is IL-2 1946.

Simple as that. And as I said in other topic, I don't care of the great terrain at 3km alt, but when I'm chasing an 109 at deck or in a dive bomb over some armour column. Nothing today comes close to IL-2 1946 in these points.