Sorry Chivas, this just won't do.

Luthier made a statement that he would do something. No-one here forced him into that obligation or choice. I have supported them many times in the past.

I refuse to have such bullshit behaviour swept under the carpet because honestly acknowledging it may endanger the future of the game. If so it is their fault

This whole thing sorta reminds me of a fella that I knew some years back.
He smoked a lot of the "wildwoodflower"...and was always under the influence of it. He had a favorite saying..."You're never late, if you don't care."

He was right.

I would agree with you if I thought they had the answers, but I'm not so sure they do. I think the development is on the tipping point and its about to go one way or the other. The answers will be very different depending on which way it falls.

So then why say "i will be back to anwser your questions later"?

This +100.

This mess is entirely of their own making, but certain members on these forums would have us believe it's somehow the community's fault.

Tomorrow never comes as it is then today.

What does Luthier actually do in the office?

Luthier once described it as, running around with his hair on fire. ;)

Must be an inferno by now. :razz:

Oh I don't know take a guess....maybe his lead programmer came in, and said there has been a major setback in the stability patch, maybe their investors want to pull the pin, and he has to go and talk them into holding on, maybe he just likes p#ssing some of his customers off, so they won't buy the sequel. There are a hundred possible higher priorities than massaging the feelings of a few people in the forums who immediately take everything he says as a "Promise". I'm sure he couldn't post quick enough if something positive has happened. Until then we will have to wait.

Explains alot, and yes some don't seem to notice this . . .

Can't go back to the old days, and wishing Oleg was here, its changed.

I wish they would communicate better, but we don't have it. And the blame partly lies here. I mean there is a lot of .. . issues.

They give us an update, but it spawns questions. They give a deadline, but miss it, and some drag them through the coals. Software development tends to have more gremlins than say mechanical or actual physical aspects of building or creating . . . So hard and fast deadlines sometimes are missed and there is some irregularity, chaos, and unexpected things happening.

But the issues can be fixed with a degree of reliability, regularity, and minimal unexpected issues . . . but needs tons of manpower and / or money coupled with a high degree of expertise. Anyone of those three are missing, and you go back to irregularity and deadlines missed.

And the devs don't have tons of money or manpower, though they may have the expertise . . .



Luthier says later in a day, well TG we're not a pinned down squad and Luthier is our CAS . . . cuz he'd be flying over the next day with the answers and find the place crawling with opposing forces and dozens of SAM sites and hundreds of AAA and smalls arms fire to deal with.

We know they don't communicate goodly :)

they should. but they don't. We can hope they are playing the BOM works and everyone will be happy ending.

And I hope this is true.




someone mentioned DCS . . . they have a working solid game engine. . . Cliffs doesn't. Of course DCS can pull off a mustang.

1) WORKING engine
2) Mustang ONE of the most beloved warbirds and enough in the modern times to get an accurate feel for to model correctly in a game . . .

vs CLod

1) brokey engine
2) 50+ warbirds, some with obscure information . . .


a working game engine is key . . . and DCS shows it.


Someone else mentioned the usual Jason is uber and they wish ROF took over IL-2 . .

ROF facts:


ROF customer service is rated one of the best places to work for. Its easy when everyone nearly all the calls is congratulating them for a great game.



But it boils down to if they can deliver a working BOM game. That's all they can do, it's what really counts in the end.




it sucks but I also wish 1C would improve on customer interaction / relations / communication.

But I also wish the human race didn't have to fight wars, and evil wasn't in the hearts of some people . . . and we had a great global economy . . .


but things aren't meant to be.

If there was a choice between good customer service and communication and a mediocre game vs a great game with bad customer service,

I'd take the great game . . .


sometimes life aint always what we expect or want it to be, we just have to make due with what we got.