Games so Crap no one plays it online?

[sod16]

What gives? its been out for a day now normally games are jam packed with online players.

[juz1]

Alot of people haven't got it yet

i.e. Half of Europe, Parts of the U.S. and the whole of the southern hemisphere...

widen your world view a little:grin:

ps way to go for a thread title! you really should talk to Dennis!
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[He-111]

Alot of people haven't got it yet

i.e. Half of Europe, Parts of the U.S. and the whole of the southern hemisphere...

widen your world view a little:grin:

ps way to go for a thread title! you really should talk to Dennis!

When is it comminhg out on the other halph of europe?

[nudger1964]

its not so bad not having anyone online....its got me on the leaderboard

[juz1]

When is it comminhg out on the other halph of europe?

I'm not sure on European dates....sorry...
try importing from amazon uk.
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[Yossarian]

I played a few games online yesterday. They were mostly 'arcade' (not my choice, it was all that was available). We started off with 16 players, hardly anyone could get a kill even on arcade so the game finished up with only 5 or 6 of the original 16 and then only 1 or 2 might get a few kills in 20 minutes. I can't see this game being very popular online to be honest. It's hard to get kill as the damage model is too forgiving and bailing out or crashing does not count as a kill.

[Danny M NL]

half of the european stores don't even know this game exists.... and some state a sept 30th release...

in my town in the netherlands none of the shops knew about this game so I'm importing it from Amazon UK, still sucks to have to wait for it to get here...

I think the publisher has made a big boo-boo, since a lot of stores received their stock late, and some stores don't even know about this game...

[redtiger02]

I host realistic games of all different modes all the time and it's usually busy. THey aren't ranked games because I play with friends, but whatever. We will start seeing a large influx of people during the week once everybody else gets teh game. However, if all the pussies don't stop crashing everytime they take a hit to avoid being killed, this game will die.

[nudger1964]

I played a few games online yesterday. They were mostly 'arcade' (not my choice, it was all that was available). We started off with 16 players, hardly anyone could get a kill even on arcade so the game finished up with only 5 or 6 of the original 16 and then only 1 or 2 might get a few kills in 20 minutes. I can't see this game being very popular online to be honest. It's hard to get kill as the damage model is too forgiving and bailing out or crashing does not count as a kill.

i found it much easier to get killsin realistic mode than arcade. i guess reason being you can all turn on a sixpence. the crashing and not counting as kill is an issue though i think

[nudger1964]

I host realistic games of all different modes all the time and it's usually busy. THey aren't ranked games because I play with friends, but whatever. We will start seeing a large influx of people during the week once everybody else gets teh game. However, if all the pussies don't stop crashing everytime they take a hit to avoid being killed, this game will die.

im sure some people will be doing it deliberately, but if youve taken a bad hit on the wing sometimes you cant help but crash.

[reverend66]

When I used to play warbirds online it was set to whoever got the last hit on a plane before it crashed got the kill. Wasn't perfect but it worked.

[nudger1964]

When I used to play warbirds online it was set to whoever got the last hit on a plane before it crashed got the kill. Wasn't perfect but it worked.

yep, thats exactly what it needs, if it is technically possible....please please please.

[Yossarian]

Agreed, if someone bails or crashes then the last person to have hit them MUST be awarded the kill.

[Irishmandkg]

A lot of stores don't even have it yet, and pre-orders are only going out for gamestop and some other online retailers. The game comes out here in the U.S. the 8th, so bestbuy and target and every other game retailer is sending them out the 8th. So not everyone has got their copies yet. Wait a week. In the meantime play the long ass single player.:grin:

[TexRoadkill]

I host realistic games of all different modes all the time and it's usually busy. THey aren't ranked games because I play with friends, but whatever. We will start seeing a large influx of people during the week once everybody else gets teh game. However, if all the pussies don't stop crashing everytime they take a hit to avoid being killed, this game will die.

The game will die because dickheads like you will be sending them all messages telling them to play another game.

Being a narcissistic asshole you probably don't know a few things:
1. If you shoot a plane and render it unable to fly and the plane crashes you will not get the kill.
2. If you shoot up the engine and the player lands or crashes before you can finish them off you will not get the kill.
3. If you are chasing down a plane and he stalls and crashes you will not get the kill.
4. The only way you can get the kill is by killing the pilot with bullets or a big fiery mid-air explosion.

So stop whining and learn to shoot.

[House MD 221B]

there are no servers for 3 reasons;

1) people are unlocking stuff first on singleplayer

2) half the world hasnt got it yet

and

3) you're all on here WHINING how you cant search for any, but arent HOSTING any.

Ive hosted plenty.

[TexRoadkill]

As soon as I can peel my roommate off of my 60" HDTV there will be one more server up!

[SleepTrgt]

My first impression, Online is awefull.

first problem every1 is crashing etc,
2nd i dont even hear a sound or feel anything while getting hit.
The whole expirience feels buggy

[Raw Kryptonite]

It's only been out for a couple of days, and many people still don't know it came out early in the US. On top of that, the SP modes are so good that most can't help but play them a lot first. Not to mention you want to unlock a variety of planes to use in MP.
And personally I prefer private rooms when I've got enough people that I know online with it. I'll have some public rooms going too though.

[Robotic Pope]

The game will die because dickheads like you will be sending them all messages telling them to play another game.

Being a narcissistic asshole you probably don't know a few things:
1. If you shoot a plane and render it unable to fly and the plane crashes you will not get the kill.
2. If you shoot up the engine and the player lands or crashes before you can finish them off you will not get the kill.
3. If you are chasing down a plane and he stalls and crashes you will not get the kill.
4. The only way you can get the kill is by killing the pilot with bullets or a big fiery mid-air explosion.

So stop whining and learn to shoot.

You sound like the Arsehole to me, not Red Tiger.

1. Do you think it's fair that the player doesn't the get the kill when he has damaged a plane enough for it to be unable to fly? That player has downed another and should be counted a kill.

2. If a player destroys anothers engine and forces him to crash or crash land, that should be a kill, no doubt about it. If the other player manages to land safely then thats ok (but they would be quite a sitting duck for the guy to finish off don't you think?)

3. One player forcing another into a controlled or uncontroled flight into terrain would be considered a kill. This is rather hard to put into a game though unless a sucessfull shot has been taken by the persuer, then last player to get a hit should receive the kill.

4. Almost all kills in WWII were not huge explosions and many times the pilot was able to bail out. Why is that not the same for this game?


This is a big mistake by the developers. Ace combat 6 made exactly the same mistake, people were firing off all their missiles like crazy and then crashing on purpose to get a new load. People would get a bit damaged and then just find the nearest mountain to plow into before someone killed them and got the points. It was crazy before the patch that gave a big penalty for any crash, this caused a masive drop in crashers.

Once the whole world can buy IL2 BoP A public room Online will become a no kills ,crash fest if nothing is done to discourage crashing. And adding some programing that says last person to get a shot on the crashing plane gets the kill would also be welcome.

[TexRoadkill]

You sound like the Arsehole to me, not Red Tiger.

1. Do you think it's fair that the player doesn't the get the kill when he has damaged a plane enough for it to be unable to fly? That player has downed another and should be counted a kill.

2. If a player destroys anothers engine and forces him to crash or crash land, that should be a kill, no doubt about it. If the other player manages to land safely then thats ok (but they would be quite a sitting duck for the guy to finish off don't you think?)

3. One player forcing another into a controlled or uncontroled flight into terrain would be considered a kill. This is rather hard to put into a game though unless a sucessfull shot has been taken by the persuer, then last player to get a hit should receive the kill.

4. Almost all kills in WWII were not huge explosions and many times the pilot was able to bail out. Why is that not the same for this game?


This is a big mistake by the developers. Ace combat 6 made exactly the same mistake, people were firing off all their missiles like crazy and then crashing on purpose to get a new load. People would get a bit damaged and then just find the nearest mountain to plow into before someone killed them and got the points. It was crazy before the patch that gave a big penalty for any crash, this caused a masive drop in crashers.

Once the whole world can buy IL2 BoP A public room Online will become a no kills ,crash fest if nothing is done to discourage crashing. And adding some programing that says last person to get a shot on the crashing plane gets the kill would also be welcome.

I didn't make the game. Just informing him of why he wasn't getting credit for the kills.

[Robotic Pope]

I didn't make the game. Just informing him of why he wasn't getting credit for the kills.

lol no, what you did was go off on one because he said that people were unfairly crashing to avoid being killed. That may well kill the public lobby side of BoP. It has happened to games before, the public online has failed and slowly the whole game online dies. He is totaly right. It needs to be fixed.

Players will not like feeling cheated out of kills thanks to crashers and will stop playing, Don't you think they have a right to be pissed off with the people who are taking advantage of a game flaw?. Trust me it will happen, you will see people kamakaziing the landscape untill all you can see is fire.

[Yossarian]

A public room Online will become a no kills ,crash fest if nothing is done to discourage crashing.

It already is.

Then last game I played was for 20 minutes. The winner had TWO kills and had crashed EIGHTEEN times.

They need to patch the online part of the game or I will not bother playing it. Who wants to play a game for 20 mins and get no kills because they all either crashed or bailed, it's just not fun.

[Robotic Pope]

It already is.

Then last game I played was for 20 minutes. The winner had TWO kills and had crashed EIGHTEEN times.

They need to patch the online part of the game or I will not bother playing it. Who wants to play a game for 20 mins and get no kills because they all either crashed or bailed, it's just not fun.

You know it makes me wonder if the developers were given any time at all to play test the multiplayer. If I was a tester the first time I crashed I would think "oh wait I didn't lose anything from crashing hmmm in fact I now have an advantage as I am undamaged and that guy that was behind me filling me with holes is now infront oh and look he didn't get a kill. hmm i will try crashing again when I want a new plane... Wait, that could be a problem, that isn't fair play and WILL be exploited." ""Oi developer guy over here, We got a big problem""

[Intifadah]

People crashing is a pain in the ass. Also hosted a game of capture the airfield at Stalingrad, nobody could locate the airfield at all so it was essentially a team battle.

And before anyone asks, yes it was capture the airfield, the 500 tickets were visible on-screen, just no airfield :confused:

[Tally-Ho]

You know it makes me wonder if the developers were given any time at all to play test the multiplayer. If I was a tester the first time I crashed I would think "oh wait I didn't lose anything from crashing hmmm in fact I now have an advantage as I am undamaged and that guy that was behind me filling me with holes is now infront oh and look he didn't get a kill. hmm i will try crashing again when I want a new plane... Wait, that could be a problem, that isn't fair play and WILL be exploited." ""Oi developer guy over here, We got a big problem""

Remember, you are talking about testers who reported red-outs as a glitch.

So just a quick change to your dialogue

"oh wait I didn't lose anything from crashing hmmm in fact I now have an advantage as I am undamaged and that guy that was behind me filling me with holes is now infront oh and look he didn't get a kill. hmm i will try crashing again when I want a new plane... I did! Mega-Brill-Awesome!"

:grin:

[SleepTrgt]

Hmmm, not good:(

Dont worry it was about arcade actually, and realistic a bit, Sim is pretty good :)

[Plippy]

My first impression, Online is awefull.

first problem every1 is crashing etc,
2nd i dont even hear a sound or feel anything while getting hit.
The whole expirience feels buggy

Err, sorry to say that I think I was one of the aforementioned crashing players. :oops:

I got in my first MP dogfight (sim) with you and you nailed me hard twice and I ended up crashing because my plane was almost unflyable. I wasn't aware at the time that you might not get "credit" for the kill, but I was most certainly shot down, fair and square. I think that another time we actually collided and you got the kill, but I may have just been shot head on and not heard it (I also noticed the lack of sound effects).

I put another post about this ( http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=9414 ), but I think that the MP matches handle damage differently because I've never had a hard time keeping a damaged plane level in SP. I much prefer a more realistic model if MP does indeed handle this differently.

[SleepTrgt]

yea it was my first impression and that was 2 games of Arcade and Realistic, with lots of players, with sim i its kinda slower, and things arent really rushed.

I also dont mind not getting kills, besides that you might need it for unlocks so thats a shame :(

I hope they can fix the kill thing a bit, and maybe the sound when you get hit, but i dont even notice it anymore lol

[Soviet Ace]

I really think that CoD style point system would work best in this instance. Just so everyone gets a share here and there?

[SleepTrgt]

I really think that CoD style point system would work best in this instance. Just so everyone gets a share here and there?

Hmm yea, but the main problem is NOBODY getting the kill atm (exept some times) when the player crashes, wich happens Fast if you damage a wing greatly or having intense dogfights tree level.

Its like being a sniper in BF1943 Headshot or no kill.

And its to bad anyone hardly plays sim.

[Soviet Ace]

Yeah I didn't consider part? But I have gotten some kills online, not much because the first two were against my friend, and his plane spun in. The last one though, I did get a kill.

And I'm in the same boat, it's just been me and my friend playing sim. But he's been working (same place I work).

[dennis580]

What gives? its been out for a day now normally games are jam packed with online players.

Very few people will actually buy this game. The game is very, very niche, and appeals to very, very few people. I was going to buy it, but as we got close to release I lost interest in it, and decided not to.

[stryker333]

^ I think a good amount of people will actually buy this Dennis.

[PantherAttack2]

Currently my multiplayer experience has been much, much better than what other people have reported here. A lot of good things, but some bad things as well:

1- I have a hard time finding matches, the most players I've ever been in a dogfight with is 6. Most player on team battle was 4 :(. I have yet to find a match of capture airfield or strike, but I haven't been searching that hard yet.

2- When I do find a match however, people will score kills at least once or twice every few minutes (my record is 7 kills). Usually I guess it just depends on the players you are playing with.

3- I have encountered only 2 people who crashed just so I wouldn't score a kill. Most other crashes were from damaged planes and occasional spinning. I do agree however, there should be a penalty for crashing or something of the sort. (the worst part is the number of deaths/crashes isn't even factored towards a players score; a player with 3 kills and 20 deaths is apparently doing better than someone with 2 kills and 1 death)

4- I will also agree that this game won't sell as much as other games being released soon (no surprise here), but I still think a good enough amount of people will buy it. I have heard people say it will be a 'silent hit', but we won't know for sure until a few weeks or more.

6- I have encountered no bugs in MP or SP at all yet, and I have only gotten lag once or twice during MP (and even then it wasn't that bad, usually only for a second or two).

5- About the title of this thread- It should be changed to 'No one plays it online'. The game's great. :)

[Soviet Ace]

Very few people will actually buy this game. The game is very, very niche, and appeals to very, very few people. I was going to buy it, but as we got close to release I lost interest in it, and decided not to.

So then tell me, from what my Gamestop told me, they got about 100 or so copies, all of which are now completely sold out. Not one single copy of Il-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey is at my local Gamestop? So now tell me "Mr. Economics"? Why would a game, with little advertising that I know of, in the city of Los Angeles be sold out?

Could it possibly be that you were wrong, and that even though it is a niche genre, it can still sell very well? (You don't have to say it in every damn post you make. WE KNOW ITS NICHE!)

[stryker333]

^ Well said. Well said.

[sasquatch]

Very few people will actually buy this game. The game is very, very niche, and appeals to very, very few people. I was going to buy it, but as we got close to release I lost interest in it, and decided not to.

I don't think you were ever going to buy it. You've been nothing but a troll since you've been on here. Why are you investing so much time and energy making pointless comments on a forum for a game that you obviously don't care about? If you dislike the game so much, then why are you still here?

[juz1]

I don't think you were ever going to buy it. You've been nothing but a troll since you've been on here. Why are you investing so much time and energy making pointless comments on a forum for a game that you obviously don't care about? If you dislike the game so much, then why are you still here?
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