Super Forum Thanks/Aviator joystick explained

[PedroTheGoat]

Alright, this is the Goat's first post... And unfortunately it is going to be another joystick thread.

The reason why I want to post this is because there is a lot of misinformation about the Av8r - 02 for Xbox 360. I also need to thank a lot of forum members for making this Goat VERY happy and informed.

First... Here is the button mapping for the Av8r 02 for Xbox 360.

This is only for simulation mode because that is all I play.

Trigger: Guns
X= Bombs (Which we will not see until the release of the full game of course)
B = Rockets
Y = Flaps
LB = Map
LSB = Zoom
Back = Gear
The stick under the Xbox Light = Wingman commands
RSB = Change View
RB = Trim

By the way... I need to do away with a rumor on these forums:
On the Xbox 360 AV8R 02... THE RUDDER IS ANALOG

Please do not argue that fact. I've been playing for hours and the rudder is in fact analog. I believe the Av8r for PS3 may have issues. But not the one for 360.

My impressions from the AV8R... WONDERFUL flight stick. MODS are required to make the stick comfortable and more usable. Only thing I dislike... Of course the lack of a wheelbrake. I imagine this will be fixed by the time to full game releases. I also am not fond of the zoom placement. But it's usable. Everything else is absolutely wonderful. Works very well in your lap. It is a great alternative to the Hori and the Ace Edge if you don't want to rig up anything for the use of a separate throttle control.

TWO MUST HAVE MODS FOR THE AV8R.

First... The zipties around the springs are a must if you want better control. It helps alleviate problems with the deadzone too.

Second... Go buy a tennis grip to wrap the controller with. This is also a must.

(THANK YOU REVEREND AND OTHERS FOR PREVIOUS THREADS showing off how to do these mods)

Here are some pics... Even though they have been posted before.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/pedrothegoat/CIMG0104.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/pedrothegoat/CIMG0103.jpg

And if you're SUPER awesome... Which I am not. Then you can do Reverend's button mod that he has posted in a previous thread. Requires a bit too much technical expertise for me.


Finally... I want to thank all of the awesome senior forum members for all of the info I have learned. You guys know your stuff!!! I was not familiar with WW2 planes before coming to these forums. Reading posts from people like Soviet Ace have really opened my eyes as far as WW2 aviation and knowledge goes.

Finally a semi realistic sim comes to console... This makes for a VERY happy Goat. I really never thought that a game like this was going to come. Thank you all for the great info!!!!!!!

[fuzzychickens]

Hm, so xbox users get a working rudder and ps3 users get a porked on/off rudder?

Can this be fixed?

[Robotic Pope]

Hm, so xbox users get a working rudder and ps3 users get a porked on/off rudder?

Can this be fixed?

Thats because the PS3's AV8R-03 has dual throttles using L2 and R2. The Xbox360's AV8R-02 has only one throttle using RT, leaving the LT for the Stick twist.

It might well be the PS3's programing is recognising the Stick twist of the AV8R-03 as a digital input, if thats the case then not much can be done to fix it. How do other PS3 games control with the stick twist? is it ever analog? what buttons on the gamepad is it assigned to?

[Ant26587]

Great post mate, I was just asking about this today, thanks.

[Elguapo123]

What a great thread. This has really helped me decide which stick to get. Thanks Goat.

Question, you didn't say which button controls the look around. Is it the little nob above the X, A, and B buttons? Seems like a great place for it but is it really as simple as move it and it looks around? Or does it need to be clicked in to engage as well?


Thanks again for the thread.

[King Jareth]

What a great thread. This has really helped me decide which stick to get. Thanks Goat.

Question, you didn't say which button controls the look around. Is it the little nob above the X, A, and B buttons? Seems like a great place for it but is it really as simple as move it and it looks around? Or does it need to be clicked in to engage as well?


Thanks again for the thread.
Yeah its the little hat stick, tip from me it to invert camera look from the options menu so that down on the stick is look up (seems more natural to me oddly).

[Elguapo123]

Yeah its the little hat stick, tip from me it to invert camera look from the options menu so that down on the stick is look up (seems more natural to me oddly).

Thanks.

Yeah, I'm an invert too.

[PedroTheGoat]

Yeah, it's the anolog stick on top.

[Elguapo123]

One of the complaints I've read a few times is the frustration with the rudder requiring a twist of the stick. A few have said it really leaves their wrist aching. Does it bother the rest of you too? Or do you just get used to it?

[PedroTheGoat]

One of the complaints I've read a few times is the frustration with the rudder requiring a twist of the stick. A few have said it really leaves their wrist aching. Does it bother the rest of you too? Or do you just get used to it?

My wrist would get fatigued pretty quick until I wrapped a tennis grip around the stick. Now it doesn't bother me at all.

[Soviet Ace]

One of the complaints I've read a few times is the frustration with the rudder requiring a twist of the stick. A few have said it really leaves their wrist aching. Does it bother the rest of you too? Or do you just get used to it?

I haven't had that happen to me... yet :P But unlike PedroTheGoat, I didn't put a tennis grip around my stick. I think it's fine the way it is, but some problems here and there, that could be fixed or so. But no aching of my wrist yet.

Also@ PedroTheGoat: Your welcome for what I guess I told/taught you? I didn't even know I was giving lessons :P ......Maybe I should have been paid LOL

[PedroTheGoat]

I haven't had that happen to me... yet :P But unlike PedroTheGoat, I didn't put a tennis grip around my stick. I think it's fine the way it is, but some problems here and there, that could be fixed or so. But no aching of my wrist yet.

Also@ PedroTheGoat: Your welcome for what I guess I told/taught you? I didn't even know I was giving lessons :P ......Maybe I should have been paid LOL

Your contributiona to the "Why Spitfire so popular" thread have made me a more knowledgable Goat by far. And your other posts seem to be filled with super knowledgable stuff too.

I could always pay you in some .50 shells online... But I think you own a PS3. ;)

[Soviet Ace]

Your contributiona to the "Why Spitfire so popular" thread have made me a more knowledgable Goat by far. And your other posts seem to be filled with super knowledgable stuff too.

I could always pay you in some .50 shells online... But I think you own a PS3. ;)

I own both consoles, and will probably buy BoP for both (Not at the same time, money is expensive). Just incase one console goes down, I always have a back-up.

[PedroTheGoat]

I own both consoles, and will probably buy BoP for both (Not at the same time, money is expensive). Just incase one console goes down, I always have a back-up.

Then feel free to add me on XBL.

Gamertag is pretty easy: PedroTheGoat

[Elguapo123]

My wrist would get fatigued pretty quick until I wrapped a tennis grip around the stick. Now it doesn't bother me at all.

Thanks Goat.

[Elguapo123]

I haven't had that happen to me... yet :P But unlike PedroTheGoat, I didn't put a tennis grip around my stick. I think it's fine the way it is, but some problems here and there, that could be fixed or so. But no aching of my wrist yet.

And you too Ace ;)

[Chooky88]

Thanks for this threat, I got the game today am stuck at work until 11 but I ordered the Aviator-02 last night.

Sooo I should get it by Friday or Tuesday at the very latest :-)

[mdbuehler]

For those with the aching wrist (I type all day and flying at night was killing me):

Do that zip tie mod. You can greatly reduce the force required to tip the stick, and adjust that to your liking. Made the dead zone easier to handle as well.

Weaken the rudder spring! This made the biggest difference for me. It took too much force to hold rudder, which really hurt my wrist (carpal tunnel sucks!!). I disassembled the stick, and removed the spring from the mechanism with the analog pot in it. I then held it just enough open for the ends to still hold the pot arm (measure then hold with needle nose pliers) and heated it with a torch to release the tension.

Once reassembled the difference was night and day. I can aim so much easier and smoother, and can play more then 30 min without my wrist starting to hurt. Took less then a half hour from start to finish!

[Lincoln's Revenge]

Hey Pedro, it looks like you couldn't figure out what to do with those two black semi circular pieces that come in the box either... or did you?

They snap together into a solid circular piece that seems like it might go at the bottom of the springs or something but doesn't really fit into place there.

[Raw Kryptonite]

Those pieces go at the base of the stick as a hand rest.
It's too low, but that's the idea.