Italian Fighter Aircraft

[Soviet Ace]

I was just watching the videos, and sifting through the many images available, and was wondering if anyone (Anton or anyone else with the knowledge) could tell us what specific Italian Fighters will be in the game.

I've seen in the video's and like one screen shot of an Italian Macchi. But I couldn't tell if it was a MC. 202 or MC. 205? I hope both are in the game, rather than just one of them, since they were both a serious fighter against the Allied forces.

I also hope to see these.

*My Italian Fighter Wish List*

Fiat CR. 42 Falco

Fiat G.50 Freccia

Fiat G.55 Centauro

Reggiane Re. 2000 Falco 1

Any others would be great. And if some of these aren't in the basic game, maybe you could add them into a DLC?;-)

[Wehrwulf]

To add to your wishlist, I think the Macchi (If that's how you spell it) C.202 Folgore is kind of a forgotten, but very good, fighter. However, this game is largely if not all European-Theater based, but maybe we could see some DLC. I've always been interested in scout planes myself...Maybe there could be a mode where finding and intercepting the enemy could be as crucial as destroying them? :rolleyes:
PBY Catalinas all te Way!

[Soviet Ace]

Well I figured that since there is a campaign in Sicily (And Sicily is considered to be in Europe), the Macchi (yes that is how you spell it) 202 or 205 would be in there. And I figured that some Fiats should be also since they were some of the first planes to go up against the American and British Spitfires and P-38s.

[Wehrwulf]

That would be very interesting to see some multiplayer matches consisting of either early-war fighters or Sicilian campaign planes. If this isn't possible with the multiplayer system, (changing settings to only certain era aircraft) maybe we could get some kind of squad system going for private matches...Just for some great dogfights such as this.

[Soviet Ace]

That could be fun. Maybe have the Macchi 202's go up against some "Hurricane MkIIc's"? Something like that would be interesting.

[Wehrwulf]

Wasn't the Mkllc the one with the samll amount of ammo that could obliterate a plane in a short burst? I know there was a version of Hurricane with quite powerful cannon on it...either way, Hurris vs. Macchis or Fiats (maybe an Italian bomber) would be some DLC I would buy.

[David603]

The Hurricane IIc has 4 20mm Hispano cannon. They are certainly one of the best, if not the best 20mm cannon around, and with four of them a fighter can be ripped apart almost instantly. None of the Italian aircraft listed there can match that sort of firepower, but the MC.205 Veltro is close with 2 20mm cannon (German MG 151s) and 2 12.7mm MGs, and the MC.205 has a lot more ammunition for these guns and is also around 50mph faster. The MC.202 Folgore would be a better match both for gameplay and historical reasons, and is 30mph faster than the Hurricane II and armed with 2 12.7mm MGs and 2 7.7mm MGs.

The MC.202 can be seen in the "Demo Trailer" on the IC website, and I'm sure it will feature in the Sicily campaign, though against Spitfire IXs and Mustang Is it will probably be rather outclassed.

[Gilgenbach]

The Hurricane IIc has 4 20mm Hispano cannon. They are certainly one of the best, if not the best 20mm cannon around, and with four of them a fighter can be ripped apart almost instantly. None of the Italian aircraft listed there can match that sort of firepower, but the MC.205 Veltro is close with 2 20mm cannon (German MG 151s) and 2 12.7mm MGs, and the MC.205 has a lot more ammunition for these guns and is also around 50mph faster. The MC.202 Folgore would be a better match both for gameplay and historical reasons, and is 30mph faster than the Hurricane II and armed with 2 12.7mm MGs and 2 7.7mm MGs.

The MC.202 can be seen in the "Demo Trailer" on the IC website, and I'm sure it will feature in the Sicily campaign, though against Spitfire IXs and Mustang Is it will probably be rather outclassed.


Although it outclassed the Hurricane, P40 and even the Spitfire Mk Vs.

[David603]

Although it outclassed the Hurricane, P40 and even the Spitfire Mk Vs.
Hurricanes and P40s, yes, but against Spitfire Vs it would at best be an even fight and I would rather be flying the Spit in that confrontation.

[Soviet Ace]

Thought I'd just give you guys a quick little excerpt. I was lucky enough to find it off Wikipedia, but it's the same as in my book, so it's reliable. :P Check it out.

"On my first combat, the 9 of July, I attacked the leader of a Squadriglia of Falcos, while Flt Lt George Burges attacked a S.79 bomber. When I shot the CR.42 at a range of 100 yards, he did a flick-roll and went spinning down. I found myself engaged in dogfighting with the remaining CR.42s. This went down to about 10,000 ft; by then I had used up all my ammunition without much success, although I am convinced I got quite a few strikes on the leader in the initial combat. I realized pretty quickly that dogfighting with biplanes was just not on. They were so manoeuvrable that it was very difficult to get in a shot, and I had to keep diving and turning to keep myself from being shot down. George had by this time disappeared so I stuck my nose down and, with full throttle, was very thankful to get out of the way."

-Plt Off Jock Barber

Just an example of the Fiat CR.42 in action.

Also, I'm going to say that at Medium altitudes, the Macchi MC.202 could take on the Spitfire Mk.V in a successful dogfight. I'll try and find that account as well.

[DigitalMan]

I love the little Macchi, I think its a really beautiful fighter. And how do we know its an Mc 202? I betcha its a 205. I hope they've rendered a cockpit for it, I'd like to mix it with some spits online in a Macchi, and I too would gladly pay for an italian dlc. Woohoo!

[David603]

I love the little Macchi, I think its a really beautiful fighter. And how do we know its an Mc 202? I betcha its a 205. I hope they've rendered a cockpit for it, I'd like to mix it with some spits online in a Macchi, and I too would gladly pay for an italian dlc. Woohoo!
It is a MC 202. The engine cowling is the main visible point of difference between the two fighters, and the plane in the trailers is definitely a MC 202, identifieable by the different shape of the air intakes under the exhausts on each side. Considering how similar the external models are, it would be very easy to make the MC 205 out of the MC 202 by changing the cowling slightly, replacing the 7.7mm MGs with 20mm cannon and changing a few other stats.

[Soviet Ace]

Thanks for clearing that up, David. I tried to see, but all the pics didn't help, and when I saw the video I couldn't see the cowling so I was stumped.

If they have the MC.202, then I'm sure they'll have a MC.205. And I do hope they will have authentic cockpit view for the Italian planes.

EDIT: You were right, David. It is a MC.202, I just watched through the video, and saw it had a 202 cowling. :D