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blacksungregg
07-31-2009, 03:54 AM
Just a huge thanks to all the members for answering my first set of questions in my first post! Thanks!
Anyhow, onto more questions which I will list down below here.
1. When in I would guess either Arcade, Realistic or Simulation. When you either get damaged or say run out of rockets (Do you run out of gun ammo or fuel in any modes?), can you land, reload, or replace your plane somewhere on the map?
2. When the bombers come out, how many possible positions are there, as in gunners and bombardier?
3. What is the best rated air controller for the 360 from all of your opinions? Guilty, you use the thrust master. Does it have close to zero dead zones? I saw that video on the Ace stick and that is dissappointing that it seems to have a huge dead zone, but is it the same with Il2?
5. With landing, I would expect it would be best to use your combat flaps (flaps down) to get most lift at slower air speeds. What again is used as a brake when you've landed?
6. As was stated earlier, the P51 cockpit is the P47? Is there a planned change for this?
7. Just a statement. Do adjust your sensitivity, it does make a huge difference. I'm experimenting with it, but adjusting it I would guess is most effective per plane could be the key.
-Gregg
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 01:02 AM
I have another question about landing, is there some sort of break?
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 01:04 AM
I have another question about landing, is there some sort of break?
Yes, you pull back on the throttle until you stop
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 01:14 AM
Yes, you pull back on the throttle until you stop
doesent really stop quick enough or something, what about air brakes?
Anyway i keep trying harder then!
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 01:18 AM
doesent really stop quick enough or something, what about air brakes?
Anyway i keep trying harder then!
no i dont think there are any airbrakes. i do know for definate that there is brakes for landing, i devised a little test where once landed and travelling around 50mph i would pull back on throttle then release and then pull back again, when i would repeat this action i could quite clearly see that once pulled back it would slow down much quicker than when i would let it roll.
I dont see how it doesnt stop quick enough lol unless your attepting to land on the roof of a house
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 01:20 AM
For me it is hard to land because almost everytime I try to land I touch the ground and my landing gear brakes off and I crash.
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 01:27 AM
no i dont think there are any airbrakes. i do know for definate that there is brakes for landing, i devised a little test where once landed and travelling around 50mph i would pull back on throttle then release and then pull back again, when i would repeat this action i could quite clearly see that once pulled back it would slow down much quicker than when i would let it roll.
I dont see how it doesnt stop quick enough lol unless your attepting to land on the roof of a house
Im playing with a flightstick so once i release my throttle is stays down.
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 01:30 AM
Im playing with a flightstick so once i release my throttle is stays down.
I didnt know on the flight stick it will stay in whatever positions you put it in.
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 01:31 AM
Im playing with a flightstick so once i release my throttle is stays down.
ahhh i see, now that is quite worrying if theres nothing else on the stick for brakes
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 01:33 AM
For me it is hard to land because almost everytime I try to land I touch the ground and my landing gear brakes off and I crash.
lol are you sure your gear is fully down? because it will break off even with a minor touch to the ground if theyre not full down.
if thats not the case you must be coming down too hard
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 01:33 AM
ahhh i see, now that is quite worrying if theres nothing else on the stick for brakes
i will try it out more in a sec
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 01:34 AM
They need to put brakes in the game so people dont land on a runway and cant stop their plane while goes off the runway and its heading for a tree.
With the AV8R the flaps button is context sensitive..in flight it varies between raised and combat-but once your gear is down pressing flaps will switch to landing flaps.....maybe once wheels are down it changes to brake- or earlier someone mentioned B button...
This is all on sim, cos on arcade you can make hefty "agricultural" landings pretty easily...
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SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 01:40 AM
They need to put brakes in the game so people dont land on a runway and cant stop their plane while goes off the runway and its heading for a tree.
agreed, would make that MP mode kinda hard...
On another note in level flight i often cant keep my plane goin straight, or it keeps rolling, or goin up or down or even ruddering, Trimming doesent seem to work at all..
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 01:41 AM
With the AV8R the flaps button is context sensitive..in flight it varies between raised and combat-but once your gear is down pressing flaps will switch to landing flaps.....maybe once wheels are down it changes to brake- or earlier someone mentioned B button...
This is all on sim, cos on arcade you can make hefty "agricultural" landings pretty easily...
ok thanks im goin to check it out.
All i do is play sim hehe
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 01:46 AM
agreed, would make that MP mode kinda hard...
On another note in level flight i often cant keep my plane goin straight, or it keeps rolling, or goin up or down or even ruddering, Trimming doesent seem to work at all..
Assuming you mean sim, i get the same. if you are constantly going up Check to see if your flaps are jammed.
Mine keeps rolling to the left but someone did suggest that it could be the gyroscopic effect of torque.
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 01:47 AM
A strange thing that happened to me while landing in a field was that when I hit the gound my plane bounced and then I hit a hill and my plane went up into the air, then when it was in the air the engine stopped and I hit the gound and blew up.
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 01:49 AM
Assuming you mean sim, i get the same. if you are constantly going up Check to see if your flaps are jammed.
Mine keeps rolling to the left but someone did suggest that it could be the gyroscopic effect of torque.
yea but its only sometimes there, BAD like second ago it was like i used my rudder constantly, turning horizontal 360 all the time, Cant remember of getting hit either...
On the landing note, buttons have no effect on speed at all,
I do notice everytime i get to 50 kmph, my plane dives down while rolling on the airfield, breaking my prop. and making me crash whys that?
Edit: oh and is there a way to fix jammed flaps?
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 01:56 AM
yea but its only sometimes there, BAD like second ago it was like i used my rudder constantly, turning horizontal 360 all the time, Cant remember of getting hit either...
On the landing note, buttons have no effect on speed at all,
I do notice everytime i get to 50 kmph, my plane dives down while rolling on the airfield, breaking my prop. and making me crash whys that?
Edit: oh and is there a way to fix jammed flaps?
I really dont understand that rudder problem, the only thing i can suggest is that its the flight stick you are using.
I cant see any reason the plane would dive nose first breaking your prop at 50kph, i dont see any damage effects to the elevators that will make create such an event, youve really got me stumped on that.
Just try pulling gently back when it gets to the point of tipping forward, see if that works
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 01:58 AM
That stuff has never happpened to me.
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 01:58 AM
oh and is there a way to fix jammed flaps?
not really sorry
Edit: ok i have an idea, not sure if it will work but it may improve it a little. when the flaps are jammed try lurching the plane forward HARD, and the second you do that press the button for the flaps.
Just an idea but give it a go
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:00 AM
I really dont understand that rudder problem, the only thing i can suggest is that its the flight stick you are using.
I cant see any reason the plane would dive nose first breaking your prop at 50kph, i dont see any damage effects to the elevators that will make create such an event, youve really got me stumped on that.
Just try pulling gently back when it gets to the point of tipping forward, see if that works
The rudder just happend then, but its always small things like that that makes it hard to just level flight straight, and i checked it with my gamepad same thing.
and the diving forward is when im already landed but just rolling out, i managed it once to not happen, Barely. because i pushed my throttle up.
And pulling up just doesent help at all
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 02:02 AM
The rudder just happend then, but its always small things like that that makes it hard to just level flight straight, and i checked it with my gamepad same thing.
and the diving forward is when im already landed but just rolling out, i managed it once to not happen, Barely. because i pushed my throttle up.
And pulling up just doesent help at all
When you are landing do you have the stick down?
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 02:03 AM
The rudder just happend then, but its always small things like that that makes it hard to just level flight straight, and i checked it with my gamepad same thing.
and the diving forward is when im already landed but just rolling out, i managed it once to not happen, Barely. because i pushed my throttle up.
And pulling up just doesent help at all
is your power at 0% when landed? or just before?
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:04 AM
When you are landing do you have the stick down?
yea, pointing my nose up a bit, slowly touching down all fine, pulling stick back so the back wheel touches ground aswell, driving slowing speed but no breaks... and then around 55 kmph it tips over, planting its nose in the ground. or evn flipping over
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:06 AM
is your power at 0% when landed? or just before?
am i the only one with this landing in sim mode problem?
I try different things to land, but the results are the same. planting my nose in the ground at 55 kmph.
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 02:09 AM
am i the only one with this landing in sim mode problem?
I try different things to land, but the results are the same. planting my nose in the ground at 55 kmph.
That is very strange how it only seems to happen to you.
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:11 AM
That is very strange how it only seems to happen to you.
well using a gamepad now, goin onto the breaks keeps me from tipping over at that speed, still wants to but doesent because im breaking.
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 02:12 AM
yes, you really do have me puzzled on that one
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 02:12 AM
well using a gamepad now, goin onto the breaks keeps me from tipping over at that speed, still wants to but doesent because im breaking.
Well at least now you can keep that from happening.
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:16 AM
Well at least now you can keep that from happening.
if i play with gamepad...
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:17 AM
yes, you really do have me puzzled on that one
But doesent any of you also see it wanting to tip forward around 55kmph? so almost to a stop?
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 02:22 AM
ill give it a go in a bit and let you know
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:25 AM
ill give it a go in a bit and let you know
im just frustrated, about all these little things i dont understand :-P but there aint a clear answer for it.:(
I also noticed some sort of Rudder thing in the spitfire, but that was indeed the torque. When i put throttle to 0% it stopped.
And also found the breaks on gamepad, now just have to find it on my AV8R.
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 02:30 AM
im just frustrated, about all these little things i dont understand :-P but there aint a clear answer for it.:(
I also noticed some sort of Rudder thing in the spitfire, but that was indeed the torque. When i put throttle to 0% it stopped.
And also found the breaks on gamepad, now just have to find it on my AV8R.
i hope you do manage to figure the flight stick out, because i can only imagine the frustration your going through to get it to work
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:33 AM
i hope you do manage to figure the flight stick out, because i can only imagine the frustration your going through to get it to work
Dont think its just me :P everyone with a Flightstick, dont think it works on the Ace Edge either.
But i still wonder about that tipping over thing, need to see some landing videos on sim...
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 02:44 AM
Dont think its just me :P everyone with a Flightstick, dont think it works on the Ace Edge either.
But i still wonder about that tipping over thing, need to see some landing videos on sim...
i would make a video on landing but i dont have anything to capture it straight from screen, the only thing i got is my 5.0 megapixel camera phone to record it
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:49 AM
i would make a video on landing but i dont have anything to capture it straight from screen, the only thing i got is my 5.0 megapixel camera phone to record it
ah can you just try landing for me but not breaking, and see if it tips over with you aswell (spitfire).
its like it suddenly breaks way to hard.
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 02:51 AM
ah can you just try landing for me but not breaking, and see if it tips over with you aswell (spitfire).
its like it suddenly breaks way to hard.
What, do you want me to record it or report what happend here?
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:55 AM
What, do you want me to record it or report what happend here?
reporting is fine i guess.
try it without breaking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkWzcECgcGk&feature=related
That's what happening to me all the time.
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 03:00 AM
ok ill go have a look at what happens and report back here. may take some time as i will have to unlock the sim mode
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 03:21 AM
Ok, ive done what you have asked and low and behold you are right, i landed the spit let her roll down the runway without any input from me and at 50-55kph she nose shunted the ground. i did it twice to make sure it wasnt just lucky. third attept i used the brake without elevators and it prevented it.
Best way to ensure this doesnt happen is when you hit 80-100kph pull back and apply the brakes
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 03:23 AM
Ok, ive done what you have asked and low and behold you are right, i landed the spit let her roll down the runway without any input from me and at 50-55kph she nose shunted the ground. i did it twice to make sure it wasnt just lucky. third attept i used the brake without elevators and it prevented it.
Best way to ensure this doesnt happen is when you hit 80-100kph pull back and apply the brakes
Yes thanks, did u also notice it wanting to tip forward? but not able to while breaking?
So now the only question is, is there a break on the flight sticks.
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 03:25 AM
Yes thanks, did u also notice it wanting to tip forward? but not able to while breaking?
So now the only question is, is there a break on the flight sticks.
i did indeed see it jolt forward a little when it got to the 50kph mark while applying the brakes
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 03:26 AM
i did indeed see it jolt forward a little when it got to the 50kph mark while applying the brakes
Alright so makes that clear hehe
Thanks man!
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 03:39 AM
Alright so makes that clear hehe
Thanks man!
yea no problem, lets just hope you get this flight stick problem corrected ;)
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 03:41 AM
yea no problem, lets just hope you get this flight stick problem corrected ;)
Hopefully some answers from Anton maybe.
Spitfire23
08-01-2009, 03:44 AM
Hopefully some answers from Anton maybe.
one can only hope
Rittmeister86
08-01-2009, 05:00 AM
Guys this is simple,
Gamepad: aproach as normal, let the gear touch the ground, throttle to %0, pull back on the right stick with ease. (once on the ground, the right stick back is your gear brake)
I'll post for the Ace edge as soon as I double check myself, but I think you just have to keep the stick all the way back. I'm still maping it though.
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 02:17 PM
Guys this is simple,
Gamepad: aproach as normal, let the gear touch the ground, throttle to %0, pull back on the right stick with ease. (once on the ground, the right stick back is your gear brake)
I'll post for the Ace edge as soon as I double check myself, but I think you just have to keep the stick all the way back. I'm still maping it though.
on the AV8R keeping the throttle down does not function as a break.
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 04:12 PM
I have a question on landing. How do you not bounce when you touch the ground?
SleepTrgt
08-01-2009, 04:31 PM
I have a question on landing. How do you not bounce when you touch the ground?
Goin in smoothly i think, keeping the right altitude and right speed slowly slowing down, slowing pulling back etc.
Find that easier with Flight stick though.
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 04:33 PM
Goin in smoothly i think, keeping the right altitude and right speed slowly slowing down, slowing pulling back etc.
Find that easier with Flight stick though.
Alright I'll do that, but its a bit difficult since I dont have a flight stick.
Soviet Ace
08-01-2009, 08:47 PM
I got a question: How will the landing gear on the early 109's work? Since in the early days, the 109 didn't have an electric landing gear system to bring the gear up, and they had to crank one side and then the other, how will that be simulated in the game?
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 08:50 PM
I got a question: How will the landing gear on the early 109's work? Since in the early days, the 109 didn't have an electric landing gear system to bring the gear up, and they had to crank one side and then the other, how will that be simulated in the game?I have no idea how they coul simulate that.
David603
08-01-2009, 09:49 PM
I got a question: How will the landing gear on the early 109's work? Since in the early days, the 109 didn't have an electric landing gear system to bring the gear up, and they had to crank one side and then the other, how will that be simulated in the game?
Simple answer: it won't be.
Camo-234
08-01-2009, 10:26 PM
Simple answer: it won't be.
Unless they made a new flightstick piece that is like a crank for raising and lowering landing gear, but that is very unlikely.
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