Ice meets Fire

[Nike-it]

1C Company announces the release date of King’s Bounty: Warriors of the North. Ice and Fire.

Ice and Fire is the official DLC to the released in 2012 King’s Bounty: Warriors of the North (http://kingsbountygame.com/).

King’s Bounty: Warriors of the North. Ice and Fire is scheduled to be released digitally on January 30th 2014.

Ice and Fire features:


Creature skill system – lead your troops through dozens of battles and they will become stronger than ever!
Snow Elves – a new Elven nation that prefers snow and blizzard of the Ice Gardens instead of the green forests of Merlassar.
Necrolizards – a new kind of the undead, Lizardmen that have risen from the dead.
New locations to explore.
Over 20 new creatures.
Revamped creatures of King’s Bounty: Warriors of the North.
New items with unique attributes.
Over 20 hours of additional gameplay.

[Zhuangzi]

Is this new campaign separate from the WotN campaign (like the separate campaigns in Crossworlds) or is it just new islands and game mechanics for the WotN campaign? I'm hoping it's separate...

[Nike-it]

Is this new campaign separate from the WotN campaign (like the separate campaigns in Crossworlds) or is it just new islands and game mechanics for the WotN campaign? I'm hoping it's separate...

Ice and Fire is integrated into WotN campaign.

[blacklegionary]

Ice and Fire is integrated into WotN campaign.

Just like Orc on the March? I hope you guys do a little tweak to the WOTN campaign and fix the remaining bugs at least :(

[Darkeonz]

I really hope there has been made some serious adjustments to the game. Crossworlds was 10 times better than warriors of the north. The story is way to linear and you are forced to have the same units on the 4 first islands. Which instantly turns you off to playing it again. Not to mention the amount of battles resembles King's Bounty Legend, rather than Crossworlds. In crossworlds you can actually see yourself on the way to the next level. In Legend and in Warriors of the North, it is one long tough grind.

I really think the next King's Bounty game should be focused on replay value. Even more so than crossworlds was. Not sure how you would go about it, but the make it a lot more random which islands you get to in which order, make it more random which units you find in the different stores, as well as which items.

Also I wonder why you are removing units in order to put other units into the game? Is there something in the programming code that makes it difficult to have over a certain number of different units?

[Darkeonz]

And I would like to add that the most dangerous thing to a strategy game, is linearity. Linearity works for first person shooters and so on, but name me one single linear strategy game that is a succes.

[BB Shockwave]

Yeah, I never understood why the Lizardmen had to be removed from WOTN and added only as summonables.

Just like Orc on the March? I hope you guys do a little tweak to the WOTN campaign and fix the remaining bugs at least :(

Seconded. I have replayed TL and AP and Crossworlds multiple times, but I haven't even managed to finish WOTN even once, I was so annoyed by the bugs and the bad system and boring storyline. It's sad, and one of the cases where I'd really, really want to like a game, but... can't. KB has been a godsend for me in the era where turn-based games are rare or no good (see Heroes VI), and I had high hopes for WOTN after Crossworlds... Hope you guys fired the WOTN team and re-hired the people who did the previous three games to fix the bugs and breath new life into it. I want to support 1C as much as I can since you are the best at turn-based fantasy strategy now, but I need reassurances this won't turn out as terribly as WOTN did.

[Zhuangzi]

Yeah, I never understood why the Lizardmen had to be removed from WOTN and added only as summonables.



Seconded. I have replayed TL and AP and Crossworlds multiple times, but I haven't even managed to finish WOTN even once, I was so annoyed by the bugs and the bad system and boring storyline. It's sad, and one of the cases where I'd really, really want to like a game, but... can't. KB has been a godsend for me in the era where turn-based games are rare or no good (see Heroes VI), and I had high hopes for WOTN after Crossworlds... Hope you guys fired the WOTN team and re-hired the people who did the previous three games to fix the bugs and breath new life into it. I want to support 1C as much as I can since you are the best at turn-based fantasy strategy now, but I need reassurances this won't turn out as terribly as WOTN did.

Absolutely agree with how good Crossworlds is, even now. WoTN a big disappointment and I doubt the DLC will fix it, just add more grinding. I was never a fan of HoMM in the past, but I recently bought HoMM VI and played about 50 hours of it. I liked it okay at first but pretty soon I started to realise that I was going to be using the same units and same spells OVER AND OVER. I got bored and started playing Crossworlds again :)

So, let's hope we're wrong at the new DLC is worth it, but I'm not going to be the first one to buy it, put it that way. :cool:

[Anti-global]

Ah! Not an expansion... Oh well, better than nothing. For me, Armoured Princess is still the best King's Bounty ever.

[Csimbi]

Ah! Not an expansion... Oh well, better than nothing. For me, Armoured Princess is still the best King's Bounty ever.

Yeah, Warriors of the North is a royal screw-up, no matter how I look at it. Don't get me wrong, it's nice and fun, but with all the bug and having to play all the same maps all over again backwards feels like a low-budget release.

My favorite is "The Legend"; however the upgrades/additions in Armoured Princess are real nice and give a good competition.

[Elwin]

Ctreature skil system the only thig which might gwt me into it but as Wotn was so bleh i doubt

[malcolmm]

So for the first time they decide to do some DLC for a King's Bounty game and they do it for the game that it seems everyone agrees is by far the worst in the series (all the other KB games were good to great in my opinion).

I planned to buy this DLC until I read that it is uses the WotN campaign. You can't dress up a pig and make it into a princess. I would rather have paid twice as much for a small stand alone game that was developed by anyone other than the team that developed WotN.

I would only consider buying Ice meets Fire if you can play the DLC with a new hero, new troops and you can ignore the rest of the game.

[Sopuli]

Seems to be awfully lot of negative response regarding the DLC and the original WotN game. I thoroughly enjoyed the WotN, my only gripe was the lack of randomness in the game. I understand that it might be difficult to balance the game difficulty with a lot of randomness, but I'd be willing to sacrifice some of the balancing for the replayability value, hopefully the DLC addresses that concern.

Since this series nowadays seem to be the only CRPG that has kept me glued to the screen, I'm really eagerly awaiting for the DLC and especially the skill/progress system to the troops, should add a nice element to the game. I really do hope that in the future we will see a completely new KB game, there's just so much potential and there's hardly any good turn based tactical RPGs coming out any more. Thumbs up to the developers.

[Csimbi]

Seems to be awfully lot of negative response regarding the DLC and the original WotN game. I thoroughly enjoyed the WotN, my only gripe was the lack of randomness in the game.
Did you play "The Legend" and "Armoured Princess"?
Just asking because I am surprised about your reaction to WotN - maybe you lack perspective?

[malcolmm]

Did you play "The Legend" and "Armoured Princess"?
Just asking because I am surprised about your reaction to WotN - maybe you lack perspective?

I guess if I hadn't played and completed all the previous KB games I might consider WotN to be a good game. Although they seemed to have tried their hardest, the developers of WotN didn't manage to completely destroy the great KB gameplay. But the previous games were so much better.

[Zhuangzi]

I'm replaying The Legend at the moment for the first time in five years, and while there are some downsides to the game (huge campaign, 500+ fights and only 30 levels = grinding) the level design is excellent, the quests are varied and interesting. That wasn't the case in WoTN, sadly. The campaign just didn't receive the same attention and crafting that TL and AP/CW had.

[Csimbi]

I'm replaying The Legend at the moment for the first time in five years, and while there are some downsides to the game (huge campaign, 500+ fights and only 30 levels = grinding) the level design is excellent, the quests are varied and interesting. That wasn't the case in WoTN, sadly. The campaign just didn't receive the same attention and crafting that TL and AP/CW had.
Yep, it's my favourite one.
I have the collector's edition - the poster still smells great ;-)

[ckdamascus]

If they fix all the outstanding bugs, I would consider buying it, but it's too risky for me to become their unofficial "tester" again.

The number of ways to screw yourself out of a game (due to doing quests out of order) was just insane. Adding new content only increases the odds of new bugs and given the quality control for the last game I have serious doubts this one will be given the polish it needs.

I remember in Crossworlds when they made a GAME BREAKING patch, they hotfixed it within 24 hours.

Anyways, I'll be waiting and hope I hear good news about it before buying.

[rancor26]

I agree with other people WotN was a huge disappointment for me. I can't comment much since i only played the game for 4 hours before i got bored but from what i played it was just dull and boring, story was boring and creatures were the same for the whole time with no variety at all. CW was a very good game and in my opinion way better than WotN.

I don't think this DLC helps much.

[camelotcrusade]

Alright! Looks like it's time for me to come back to KB.

Although this time I might just pretend I don't see any bugs. :cool:

[zelurker]

Currently playing red sands, as I never finished armored princess nor wotn (but I want until after hell in wotn which is quite far, I quite liked the story, but too bad for the bugs which were never fixed...).

Anyway red sands seems to be mainly orcs on the march + a few additions with a very bad english translation. But it's quite good. And it has exactly this leveling system they talk about for this new dlc for the troops, so it's nothing new (and the leveling system seems to come from orcs on the march) !

(usually I become bored in kb when all the fights have more than 1000 units/troop...).

[iycgtptyarvg]

Oh wow! I own The Legend and Armoured Princess and Crossworlds, but I never got around to getting Warriors of the North. I'm shocked by all the comments of how bad it is. What happened to the team that did the other games? Is it a new team?

So sad to hear this. I'll check some Youtube videos to make sure.:cry:

[Csimbi]

Oh wow! I own The Legend and Armoured Princess and Crossworlds, but I never got around to getting Warriors of the North. I'm shocked by all the comments of how bad it is. What happened to the team that did the other games? Is it a new team?

So sad to hear this. I'll check some Youtube videos to make sure.:cry:
UTube videos won't help you because the game is nice, the disappointment comes when you realize that it's the same maps backwards with a few tweaks.
If you played those games recently (<3 years), chances are you'll know them by heart.

[iycgtptyarvg]

Yes, I have played them. Especially Armored Princess, which I have played (finished) 3 times. I love the games, but at some point it got too repetitive (grinding) and I was done with them.
I hoped to see WotN to be more diverse rather than linear.

Shame, really.

[BB Shockwave]

Oh wow! I own The Legend and Armoured Princess and Crossworlds, but I never got around to getting Warriors of the North. I'm shocked by all the comments of how bad it is. What happened to the team that did the other games? Is it a new team?

So sad to hear this. I'll check some Youtube videos to make sure.:cry:

Yes, it's apparently made by a totally new team as the old one is working on Royal Quest, I hear.

Basically, they made new skills and spells that won't work at all or crash you to desktop, unbalanced units, and even messed up things that are exactly the same in Crossworlds and work fine there...

[iycgtptyarvg]

I just checked out Royal Quest, but it's a multiplayer game :sad:

I was hoping for a new King's Bounty game.

[BB Shockwave]

I just checked out Royal Quest, but it's a multiplayer game :sad:

I was hoping for a new King's Bounty game.

Yeah, oddly despite being available (in russian) for a year now, there is hardly any comment on it on this forum.

I like the graphics of the game - the enemies look amazing, and would feel right at home in any KB game, as are the locales and places you visit - but the heroes themselves look anime-copypasta, and the game itself has all the hallmarks of reasons why I hate MMORPGs (pointless kill and gather quests, endless respawning enemies, constant running back to town to sell loot, no interesting quests).

[1darklord]

Hey Guys,

Jan 30th has come and gone?

Secondly please, please, please fix the bugged quests and experience shrines and such, in all the previous games they scaled. In WOTN they don't, so a shrine or quest later in the game gives you a pointless amount of XP, this ruined the game for me as the quests became near pointless.

Cheers,

Daniel.

[1darklord]

Oh it's out already! Has anyone tried this?!

Daniel.

[Elwin]

Yeah, oddly despite being available (in russian) for a year now, there is hardly any comment on it on this forum.

I like the graphics of the game - the enemies look amazing, and would feel right at home in any KB game, as are the locales and places you visit - but the heroes themselves look anime-copypasta, and the game itself has all the hallmarks of reasons why I hate MMORPGs (pointless kill and gather quests, endless respawning enemies, constant running back to town to sell loot, no interesting quests).

I coudnt stand watching royal quest for more than 30 min, its realy looks like 7 yers old game. Its really weird to me that official site or forum has no update on that game since 2012, whiel its actualy already out. Tough only in few countires. NO loss there really, there is tons of childish f2p mmos like RQ, i expected a bit more.

[BB Shockwave]

It uses the same engine as KB, IMHO - and I never had a problem with that engine. Graphics aren't everything.
I am not playing it though for the simple reason that I don't enjoy MMOs.

[Elwin]

It looks more childish than KB. Graffics arent everything sure, but MMO market is big and demanding today, you have really need to have something to draw players into your MMO, this game doesnt have that.

[raknefne]

After getting a stronger computer I noticed the crash in Ice'n Fire is greatly reduced. Some of the crashes must be hardware/software update and/or not too good programming regarding graphic card o.l.