View Full Version : Best ways to recognize if friendly or enemy aircraft
Racetrack
07-03-2013, 07:21 AM
Hi guys! I was wondering how the other players do recognize/understand if the small black dot in front at their 12 o ò'clock is an enemy or a frienldy aircraft..
Too many times I folow hard a plane to bring myself near enough to see the markings or the flag...
How do you do that?
Bearcat
07-03-2013, 10:01 AM
The color of the tracers helps... or icons.. The icons in this sim can be set in many ways.. You can turn them off on the map altogether which I prefer.. and you can also fly in the pit which will eliminate trhe arrows around the screen.. and you can set your icons so that certain parts of them appear at certain distances or not at all.. If all you want to see is the plane type .. you can set that .. if you want different settings for friendlies and enemies or one side or the other exclusively you can also do that. It will also come with experience.. Like real life in this sim there is a certain point at which identification will be impossible .. but those distances are not the same and are determined by different factors not the least of which is the capabilities of one;'s hardware and the graphics settings.. at certain distances there are distinct differences in shapes..
Racetrack
07-03-2013, 12:37 PM
I don't use any icon while flying online, i just see the planes
DD_crash
07-03-2013, 04:25 PM
Colour of the aircraft can help eg green/black pale blue underside = Soviet.
Bearcat
07-03-2013, 05:17 PM
I don't use any icon while flying online, i just see the planes
Fair enough.. I need assistance.. my eyes are in a state of flux right now..
EJGr.Ost_Caspar
07-03-2013, 05:33 PM
As said, colors help. A grey/yellow mishmash of pixels is most likely a Bf109. Dots are not to divert. But very farest LoDs can tell you already a bit. I.e. If it could be a bomber or a fighter (size). Some very old models tend to be quite fat in their farest LoDs, I.e. Bf109s and La5s.
Woke Up Dead
07-03-2013, 05:53 PM
Behaviour combined with location on the map are often good indicators online, maybe offline too. Planes usually fly high and fast over enemy territory, lower and slower (taking off and landing) when they feel safe over their own land. If you see a plane arriving high from the direction of the enemy base, or running away low towards an enemy base, then it's almost certainly an enemy. Online, they usually won't let you chase them in a straight line deep into your turf, they will want to turn back towards help.
Specific plane types are often flown in a specific way too: 109's boom and zoom with a very steep climb at the end, 190s boom and zoom in more shallow angles, Spitfires and Zeros do impressively fast horizontal turns.
It's hardest to identify a plane if you're just chasing a lonely dot along the front-line.
Treetop64
07-03-2013, 06:13 PM
It's always been difficult to ID planes from a distance, and this is correct; it's supposed to be that way.
The answer to the question is simple: get close enough so that subtle, distinguishable details start to appear, and then you can tell what it is.
Fergal69
07-06-2013, 08:29 PM
First time I flew on line I got an easy kill, & I thought this isn't too difficult, should be able to rack up a few kills.
Trouble was it was one of my own team :(
You need to be able to recognose aircraft from a mutitiude of angles by the shape, which isn't always easy. Markings do help, but depending on angle & light, they aren't always readily identifiable.
I've not flown on line for a while, prefering single missions. This is because the person I shot down hunted me down & got me in return.
MiloMorai
07-06-2013, 08:54 PM
Consider the 'dot' to be unfriendly and take appropriate action until you are sure of its ID.
fruitbat
07-06-2013, 10:58 PM
Consider the 'dot' to be unfriendly and take appropriate action until you are sure of its ID.
This, but also tracer colour is an excellent give away when entering the combat area, also after many hours, you can begin to recognise the LOD stages of various plane types, some such as the 109 are instantly recognisable.
Untamo
07-25-2013, 12:42 PM
S!
+1 to everything said before, and about the tracer colors:
Russian:
MGs: Bright green
Cannon: White
British:
MGs: Red
Cannon: Yellow
German:
MGs:
7,9mm: Red
13mm: Blue
Cannon:
20mm:Cyan
30mm: Yellow
(These come in combinations of 7,9mm+20mm / 13mm+20mm / 13mm+30mm, so no 7,9mm(red)+30mm(yellow) together).
US:
MGs (.50cal): Pink(ish)
Japan:
MGs: Red
Cannon: Yellow
So, looking at this, at least German, US and Russian tracers should always stand out from the rest. And since the brits and japanese rarely have fights online, it's pretty easy to know who is who, if they happen to fire that is :)
Alien
07-25-2013, 07:29 PM
Just reminded myself of a situation related to recognition. I was flying a campaign (a German one, the Eastern Front, it was late at that time, perhaps eastern Poland) on a Bf 109, had a G-10 I believe. So we were in a dogfight which was spread and I noticed a dot. I approached it and recognized a Yak (probably, I don't remember precisely). I came close, very close (this is why I had 400+ kills in the end of the whole campaign) and fired an extremely short burst, maybe 5-10 rounds (2 MGs and an MK 108 ). The fighter's tail came off and its fuel tank went ablaze. I was maybe 30-20 meters away, looking closely. And then... 2 crosses... On the wings... I just shot down my number 6 (I was number 1). And now, after some 2 years, I still remember that event. The pilot was slightly wounded and bailed out on our side of the front and I made myself a 48 break.
Just wanted to share the tale.
horseback
07-27-2013, 07:13 PM
A Number Six? That would be too bad.
Now a Number Three, Five, or Seven would have deserved it. Those guys are always stealing my kills.
cheers
horseback
Jumoschwanz
07-30-2013, 03:43 AM
WUD pointed out a lot of common sense things.
You know where your base, the enemies base and the front line is, you know what everyone is trying to accomplish and where they are coming from and where they are going. If you get close enough to actually interact with them, then you will be close enough to tell the aircraft by it's shape.
Look at what the AA is shooting at and who's AA it is, learn the tracers, all common sense.
Of course we are talking about flying Full Real, or hard settings. If you are flying on an easier server with any icons at all then you don't need to be reading this thread.
F16_Neo
07-31-2013, 05:21 PM
At dot distance: Location, behaviour.
At LOD range: Shape, color.
Closeup: Markings and features.
Sometimes I still find myself aborting chases when I get to step 3. And yes, FF still happens, even if very rarely nowadays.
Online you should take great care, all pilots don't take FF as lightly as I do I've learned... :)
MaxGunz
07-31-2013, 06:13 PM
When they start shooting at me, they might be enemies.
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