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watermanpc
02-26-2013, 01:16 PM
/////Posted in technical forum too as Im not sure where to post it////
Hi all mates, I have just buy the game and I have some questions that its hard to resolve by searching and/or are too old to find info and could be very useful for newer users like me and to resume some common issues/general questions so hope you can help us a bit...here I go:
Graphics/performance:
I have i5 2500k 4,4Ghz/2x6870 Xfire 1 gb/8gb RAM 1600/1tb 7200rpm 64mb cache...
-I have set all to max settings except SSAO (I use SMAA injector in ultra with no AA checked from game menu) and I can see my fps is quite lock at 60fps (vsync on of course, otherwise I get lots of stutterings even with one card) and smooth as silk until I reach very low flight over trees, then the ground stutters like crazy...as soon as I elevete a bit everything gets silk smooth. I have tried disabling grass with no result so...is there something I can do to solve this?? its the most annoying problem of all for me...
-Ground shadows flickers a lot!!!! they seem to be of very low res...is there any way to change/solve/improve that????
-Planes skin res is very low even with maxed textures (original)...I cant see any HIGH res skin out there...is there any way to improve that???
-Propeller animation seems corrupted or something for every plane I fly (im not talking about prop reflection effect, wich I actually like)...its like the prop stops spinning a fraction of a second every few seconds and makes many flickers...THIS IS VERY ANNOYING!!!. Can I solve this???I found something about this but not a lot and finally w/ a solution...
-Stick animation movement is very choppy like its running at very low fps when my fps are very high...any solution??(my USB and HOTAS is working perfectly fine)
Game controls:
-I cant find a way to MOVE my head inside the cockpit like done with trakIR, I mean I can turn my head but not MOVE it up, down, right and left no matter what conbination of keys I push in the mouse?¿?¿?¿?
-In the external view...how the hell can I get closer or the opposite from the plane, I mean NOT changing the FOV or zooming but MOVING the cam near the plane?¿?¿?¿?I have tried a lot of conbinations with no succes...
Weather:
-I have seen some screens with a nice "morning" haze/fog in the ground...how can I set that weather?¿?¿? I can only see the amount of clouds and its base altitude???thats all I can configure for a free flight???
-Sun glare effect seems too hard...is there a way to lower it???
Many thanks to all Im loving this sim and sorry for my poor english mates!!!!
lorenzoj
02-26-2013, 02:48 PM
Your hat switch should work for all view changes by default, up, down, right left, etc . Also all the number keys on your keypad. Check in your Options for other key assignments too.
On my board, the Delete / End / Page Down keys jump the exterior view zoom in and out pre set amounts.
Also holding down the center mouse button/wheel lets you rotate the view freely and holding center and right mouse button let you zoom freely. The 5 or / keys on the keypad will reset the view
If you have some favorite key combos just set them up in Options but take a look at the existing key assignments first so you don't mess some things up that you will have to undo later
Osprey
02-26-2013, 03:20 PM
I posted an answer for you in your other thread waterman.
watermanpc
02-26-2013, 03:46 PM
Many thanks mate!!...anyway, I might not explained myself well...
-About zooming in external cam:
The problem here is that I dont want to make a "ZOOM" (change focal lenght of a cam at a given distance) but change the DISTANCE itself to the plane or objet at the same focal lenght (zoom or FOV)...how can I do that in CoD???
-About looking in cockpit:
I can erfectly look around the cockpit with my joy hat...what I want is the 6 DOF...I mean MOVING the head of the pilot up, down, right, left, forward and backwards (not zooming)
hope its clear now...
Many thanks for your reply...im going to see your other reply Osprey!!!!;)
SlipBall
02-26-2013, 03:59 PM
Many thanks mate!!...anyway, I might not explained myself well...
-About zooming in external cam:
The problem here is that I dont want to make a "ZOOM" (change focal lenght of a cam at a given distance) but change the DISTANCE itself to the plane or objet at the same focal lenght (zoom or FOV)...how can I do that in CoD???
-About looking in cockpit:
I can erfectly look around the cockpit with my joy hat...what I want is the 6 DOF...I mean MOVING the head of the pilot up, down, right, left, forward and backwards (not zooming)
hope its clear now...
Many thanks for your reply...im going to see your other reply Osprey!!!!;)
Welcome!...you remind very much of El Arbol, a pleasant chap.
watermanpc
02-26-2013, 04:16 PM
Welcome!...you remind very much of El Arbol, a pleasant chap.
Im sorry but I missed something???:)
SlipBall
02-26-2013, 04:37 PM
No, its just that the writing style is so similar and makes it easy to understand. :)
Sokol1
02-26-2013, 04:48 PM
-Propeller animation seems corrupted or something for every plane I fly (im not talking about prop reflection effect, wich I actually like)...its like the prop stops spinning a fraction of a second every few seconds and makes many flickers...THIS IS VERY ANNOYING!!!. Can I solve this???I found something about this but not a lot and finally w/ a solution...
I think this is related to Vsync ON - turn then OFF.
ON cause issues in use TOOLS over map too - at least for me.
-I cant find a way to MOVE my head inside the cockpit like done with trakIR, I mean I can turn my head but not MOVE it up, down, right and left no matter what cobination of keys I push in the mouse?¿?¿?¿?
Hiting F10 you can use mouse to look around - but loose abillity to clik in cockpit controls.
In nornal mode hold middle mouse botton allow the same thing.
Combining this and key (need assign) "Hold to adjust field of view" you can lean left/right front/back (until things go psychedelic).
This allow, for example, see Spitfire/Hurri compass without obstruction.
Alternative, use trd part soft JoyToKey* and make this "mouse view" with POV HAT.
Another key to assign is "hold to zoom FOV" - this only slight insight of cockpit, slight.
Maybee all this is not what you desire, 6DOF, but is what is available in CloD.
-In the external view...how the hell can I get closer or the opposite from the plane, I mean NOT changing the FOV or zooming but MOVING the cam near the plane?¿?¿?¿?I have tried a lot of conbinations with no succes...
With the above key "Hold to adjust point of view" and mouse Y movement you can do a big "zoom" In, and a pysicodelic "zoom" out. :)
Weather:
-I have seen some screens with a nice "morning" haze/fog in the ground...how can I set that weather?¿?¿? I can only see the amount of clouds and its base altitude???thats all I can configure for a free flight???
This "fog" is a "trademark" of IL-2 series - exist since the first 2001 (http://www.combatsim.com/img/4/0/0/ground_fog_lg.jpg.htm) version.
In CloD, in last patchs are exchange for "performance", include searchlighs light in this list too...
You can play with wheater in FMB using wheater object, with more advanced Clouds, winds (you can set a hurricane), but this is unfinished (as the rest...)
*If you dont have a stick/HOTAS with advance programing software, like TARGET, CH Commander, Saitek SST... Ifd have do the same in then.
Sokol1
watermanpc
02-27-2013, 03:27 PM
Many thanks Sokol!!
-About the prop problem...well I have tried disabling Vsync, and unfortunatelly the problem stills there...anyway, I CANT disable vsync because if so, the game stutters like crazy so...any other idea??? am I the only one with this problem or what?¿?¿?:confused:
-My problem with the cockpit cam is that I want to do the movement shown in this video on 1m 32sec:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ul3Qebg1rE
that LATERAL movement is what I cant do...how can I do that whitout a trakIR?¿?¿?¿?I played long ago on a friends house to CoD (without TrackIR) and I remember that we could do that...
-For the external view, I DONT want to do a "zoom" I just want to get phisically closer to the plane...
-Nice to know about the haze, will test then...
I have been out of the sim world (and CoD) for a bit long, so I have missed a lot of things then, Im interested too in knowing if they changed(lowered) the quality of the land shading with respect to older game versions/patches???hows that now?? because I would say that in some screens/videos I have seen, the land at dusk/dawn seem more "beautiful" like a nicer hazed horizont and a more misty land...right know it still being amazing fliying at 18:00h (best looking terrain for me ever!!) but I would say that it looked beter before, dont know...even the planes seems diferent with a worse quality shader?¿?¿? is me??or Im right??...the shadows (at least in cockpit) look good, but I would say that now they have less resolution than before, as the sight light effect, wich seem different and worse...
Bye mates!!!
Sokol1
02-27-2013, 05:17 PM
-About the prop problem...well I have tried disabling Vsync, and unfortunatelly the problem stills there...anyway, I CANT disable vsync because if so, the game stutters like crazy so...any other idea??? am I the only one with this problem or what?¿?¿?:confused:
Sorry, I mystype about this, the problem occurs (to me) with Vsync OFF.
[quote]-My problem with the cockpit cam is that I want to do the movement shown in this video on 1m 32sec:
http:// www.youtube.com /watch?v=5Ul3Qebg1rE"
that LATERAL movement is what I cant do...how can I do that whitout a trakIR?¿?¿?¿?
With key that you assigned to "Hold to adjust FOV" + mouse movements.
Go do Controls > Camera and check if are key assigned.
-For the external view, I DONT want to do a "zoom" I just want to get phisically closer to the plane...
Well, what game provide is Adjust FOV an (small) ZOOM with mouse and specific keys ...
I have been out of the sim world (and CoD) for a bit long, so I have missed a lot of things then, Im interested too in knowing if they changed(lowered) the quality of the land shading with respect to older game versions/patches???hows that now?? because I would say that in some screens/videos I have seen, the land at dusk/dawn seem more "beautiful" like a nicer hazed horizont and a more misty land...right know it still being amazing fliying at 18:00h (best looking terrain for me ever!!) but I would say that it looked beter before, dont know...even the planes seems diferent with a worse quality shader?¿?¿? is me??or Im right??...the shadows (at least in cockpit) look good, but I would say that now they have less resolution than before, as the sight light effect, wich seem different and worse...
What you observe is correct.
In resume, the graphics are lowered with lastest (oficial and final) patchs.
Is expected to be restored/improved by Team Fusion at some moment in future.
Sokol1
watermanpc
02-27-2013, 08:05 PM
"With key that you assigned to "Hold to adjust FOV" + mouse movements.
Go do Controls > Camera and check if are key assigned."
:-P:-P:-P:-P:-P...yeeeesssss many thanks mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!it works like a charm!!!! Im sorry because I thought that it was a "zooming" function and so I never tried it, but YES, it makes what I was looking for hahaha!!!!;)
about the propeller...so Im the only one with the problem so far????:evil:...very weird that you solve the problem by enabling v-sync and I cant do it even enabling too :confused: ...maybe the crossfire?¿?¿?
And...only zoom for external view?¿?¿?¿?WTF?¿?¿?¿?
About graphics I knew I was right, sadly :(...is there any way to roll back to an older game version?, Now I have a nice rig I would like to test some hard hitting graphics sim!!!;)
Many thanks mate!!!
EDIT: I think its the "atmospheric scattering" what they have "erased" from the game isnt it???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rrZbLqKaCQ&feature=player_embedded
Sokol1
02-27-2013, 09:19 PM
Yes, just it.
See this pictures from Jaws, he use one the first version of game.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=495568&postcount=721
But, now this is "water under the bridge".
Although washed, still much beauty in the game graphically. ;)
Sokol1
watermanpc
02-27-2013, 09:53 PM
yes!!, great shots!!, I wish I could go back to an older version just for testing, damn it!!!...meanwhile...any advice from some one with a crossfire config?? what is the actual best profile for Cod and crossfire???
trooph
02-27-2013, 11:16 PM
Hi there.
My advice would be, ofcourse if u have few bucks to spend, get a facetrack or freetrack setup. It cost is just around 30$ with cam and stuff and as i read u are an engineer so u should have some manual skills aswell :)
Build a clip/cap get a PS3eye Cam and u wouldnt have to worry about head movements :)
Also:
My rig is
Phenom x2 965 be almost @ 3.8
Sapphire hd 7850 2gb a bit OCed
8gb ram
7200rpm hdd
and i get a lot of stuttering and micropause. No matter what ANGELS am i. I just dont get this game.
I tried to fix this but without any success it happens with low medium and high settings with and without AA. Only difference i see is when i lower buildings details and forest.
My Vram is rarely exceeding 1.5gb
Also i noticed that from time to time VRAM is just going "empty" and this is where the micropause comes in... Most annoying during dogfights..
Remember to increase ur "contacts" draw distance:)
Have a good one
Trooph
watermanpc
02-28-2013, 10:26 AM
Hi there.
My advice would be, ofcourse if u have few bucks to spend, get a facetrack or freetrack setup. It cost is just around 30$ with cam and stuff and as i read u are an engineer so u should have some manual skills aswell :)
Build a clip/cap get a PS3eye Cam and u wouldnt have to worry about head movements :)
Also:
My rig is
Phenom x2 965 be almost @ 3.8
Sapphire hd 7850 2gb a bit OCed
8gb ram
7200rpm hdd
and i get a lot of stuttering and micropause. No matter what ANGELS am i. I just dont get this game.
I tried to fix this but without any success it happens with low medium and high settings with and without AA. Only difference i see is when i lower buildings details and forest.
My Vram is rarely exceeding 1.5gb
Also i noticed that from time to time VRAM is just going "empty" and this is where the micropause comes in... Most annoying during dogfights..
Remember to increase ur "contacts" draw distance:)
Have a good one
Trooph
Hi trooph!!! thaks for the support man!!;)
You are right, I didnt remember about free track software, indeed, I have a Wii mote and if I can remember well it could be used as a track system, but it was a bit complex to do I think (and its not my "job field" as Im finishing civil engineering hahaha, but I will do my best ;))...I can remember to facenotrack Ir or something like that :grin:
I have noticed that my vram is almost always full all the time, but no stutter happens to me due to that as long as I dont get too low altitude (as 10/15 meters) so my fly is very smooth even at quite low altitude so it shouldnt be the reason of stuttering because if so I wouldnt be able to fly smooth in any situation, and as I say, I can actually fly perfectly smooth (even in combat missions) and at very low altitude no probs...I have the feeling that it has to be something related to the decrease in fps because as soon as I get below 60fps the game stutters a bit, no mater how much below(f.e. 50fps) but it gest obviously worse as fps still decreasing...
the crossfire seems to be working quite well too, but in some situations (I couldnt do many tests yet) I have seen my fps below 60 and GPU usage not at max, wich would suggest a bad profile or not the best one, but not always as I have seen too 94/97% usage in some moments...that said anyway in quite low flight over land my dual 6870 are able to keep up frames at 60fps with barelly a 60%-70% GPU usage wich is amazing :grin::grin:
CPU has a weird behaviour too as it uses to be at really low usage (15-20%) in all cores or 90% one core and almost nothing the rest of cores in other situations and I think that seems no good...I have seen some affinity mask somewhere but I dont know if I should use that tweak or its something of the past...
About the contacs draw distance increase...how can I do that mate???
Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
Sokol1
02-28-2013, 11:43 AM
Watermanpc,
Probable you problem is due use of Crossfire - this game always have problem with this and SLI.
In the last patchs are informed this issue has improved ...
Do a search in this forum for "crossfire" to see what another users say.
Ie:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=496005&postcount=7
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35876&highlight=crossfire&page=2
BTW - You have renamed/deleted "logo.wmv" (ubi splash screen)?
Sokol1
watermanpc
03-01-2013, 06:24 PM
Hi there!!
Yes , I have renamed the logo.wmv so...what I have been testing for a while is the Face trackNOir (1.7 beta) and...OMG!!!!!!!!!!::eek::eek:...its just amazing!!! I have a logitech C300 cam and it works really well with the 6dof :o...indeed Im going to buy the ps3 eye to improve fps capturing and see if that helps to make things even softer!!(anyone with this setup could confirm that??)...with some kind of tracking, the game becomes into another world!!! its like being in the cockpit, astonishing!!!!:razz:
6BL Bird-Dog
03-03-2013, 01:07 AM
Try the lost planet 2 profile in your Xfire set up.There are more than one in the list with different DX SETTINGS .That made a big difference to me.Good Luck.
watermanpc
03-03-2013, 12:31 PM
Try the lost planet 2 profile in your Xfire set up.There are more than one in the list with different DX SETTINGS .That made a big difference to me.Good Luck.
Thanks buddy, I have tried several profiles and the result is the same (no difference at all) so Im quite sure it must be some vram related issue...the problem gets really worse as I get into a very cloudy area with a lot of houses and trees under...the frame rate is quite good (although not 60 fps) but things start to stutters a lot. I have ploted a frame TIME graph and I can see some CRAZY high peaks well over 30ms(the acceptable limit) every time I fly low over the trees (and/or when fsp drop below 60) so it could be a problem with the frame time (wich is a very common issue right now for almost all AMD cards)...So I´ve tried with radeon-pro and its auto v-sync (similar to the nvidia dynamic v-sync) but I think it doesnt work with CoD as I cant see any difference when I activate it (in comparsion I can see a huge one in Trine 2 when activated as the frame rate is a LOT more smooth)...so any more idea??Im the only one with this problem so far??? all of you have an smooth low flying over trees cover???
On the other hand I have noticed another weird problem with the sim...I can make a click with the mouse on the cockpit instruments but with the instruments that can "slide" I cant do it?¿?¿? For example the radiator lever...I cant slide it with the mouse...any help here???:(
//Off topic: Certainly, I have buy (second hand:-P) a PS3 eye cam, and the result with FTNoIr is just....:eek::eek::eek::eek:...it has doubled easily the response time and now its very, very smooth and precise even with the face recognition method...I guess that if I build the IR system I would get a very consistent track IR at a fraction of price!!!:):):)...what I dont know is why the cam is at 56Hz and not 60Hz?¿?¿?¿? but anyway its by far a lot better than my C300 cam at 30Hz hahaha...//
Many thanks mates!!!
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