Snipers Endgame?

[sjeromy78]

Currently running Snipers with pally and triple stack of rune mages (phantom pallys for 2nd wind). So with precision, firebreathing and a bless, they're shooting 5 times 1st turn...for huge damage.

Any other ranged tricks out there, or even a better unit to do it with?

[gempepaine]

Ale barrel + telescopic sight

[namad]

snipers what are snipers?


i know of bowmen? rangers? and elves? what's a "sniper" ? which race is it? maybe i just haven't had any spawn in my game?

[gunnyhighway]

Ghost Recon : Warriors of the North

[sjeromy78]

*Rangers
Mistype, sniper is just one of their skills

[namad]

rangers do have fairly fabulous damage potential, does any ranged unit in the game do more ranged damage to a non-animal, non-undead, non-demon enemy unit? or do any ranged units deal base pure fire damage? (which would maybe allow better synergy with greasy mist?)


then again have you tried adding in greasey mist on targets? to combine with hellbreathe on rangers? it might be powerful?

[Razorflame]

cyclopses have sniper ability too;)

[namad]

cyclopses have sniper ability too;)

I am fairly sure cyclops have a lot lower damage than rangers taking into account well... just having tested both compared to each other. Cyclops were a bit tankier than rangers but less good at offensive ranged damage by far.

[Xargon]

Breaking news: combining any decent unit with overpowered phantoming runemages (or runemages + paladins' second wind) will result in profit and probably less fun after a few battles.

[Razorflame]

I am fairly sure cyclops have a lot lower damage than rangers taking into account well... just having tested both compared to each other. Cyclops were a bit tankier than rangers but less good at offensive ranged damage by far.

well personally i rather have more tankier units

and high ini units;)

low hp is tedious with ressing and stuff

[Nirual]

Dragon Arrows can be very useful against some enemies. they also always poison the target for some reason.

[ckdamascus]

Breaking news: combining any decent unit with overpowered phantoming runemages (or runemages + paladins' second wind) will result in profit and probably less fun after a few battles.

Hey, that's my basic strategy! :)

I am still having fun though after a few hundred battles.

[sjeromy78]

True! But when you're a soothsayer that hasnt had the good fortune to get any summon spells, or the sick AoEs or buffs that are mentioned here for strategies, you need something to carry your weak behind until you can get into more shops.
That being said, 1st turn sniper kills makes those "mop up" weak and very weak battles easier to manage until i can buy some of those previously mentioned spells.

[ckdamascus]

well personally i rather have more tankier units

and high ini units;)

low hp is tedious with ressing and stuff

If you aren't a Viking/Warrior, I can see where this is true. But archers have the highest init in the game for Viking/Warrior (quickdraw skill).

Regarding resurrecting, you are right, but there are breakpoints. After a certain point, you do so much damage in round one and two that there isn't much to resurrect because the enemy can't do anything anymore.

Level 5s do a LOT less damage once you start getting >60 attack over the enemy defense and tend to not have great +crit items.

And since Level 5s are hard to resurrect whereas <level5 can be mass resurrected with a paladin, I made that thread about why I felt Level 5s were sort of obsoleted.

Without the old Rune Mage which could resurrect nearly every level 5 (even black dragons), unless I'm a Soothsayer, I'd be hard pressed to consider level 5 units at all.

[Razorflame]

we'll see
as viking i would love a all in dragon army
just a simple stone skin and some firebreath to rape the enemies :D
and i think u can correct me if i'm wrong but if your level 4 troops got side effects(burning/poising/icing) you get a HUGE amount of damage

since your level 4 units have a higher total HP than level5's

and you would lose more than the 5's

but all in all it's about how much damage or make the enemy immobile of doing anything on the first 3turns

[ckdamascus]

we'll see
as viking i would love a all in dragon army
just a simple stone skin and some firebreath to rape the enemies :D
and i think u can correct me if i'm wrong but if your level 4 troops got side effects(burning/poising/icing) you get a HUGE amount of damage

since your level 4 units have a higher total HP than level5's

and you would lose more than the 5's

but all in all it's about how much damage or make the enemy immobile of doing anything on the first 3turns

Viking/Warrior has "shield of rage" which has a chance to purify the effect at the beginning of every round. Some bosses and dragons can be problematic and require a bit more care for precisely what you described! :)

You can always dispel too. :)

But, 5s are harder to resurrect... and you can't resurrect them en-masse like level 4s.

Problem is, you aren't going to wreck the enemy as fast with level 5s all things being equal. :) Horsemen with Driller, Rangers with Siege Crossbow...

My current build is more flexible than my old fashioned 100% critical shooter build. Only 68% critical for the Rangers (Elf), but hey, if I get a lucky "Berseker Double Damage" roll along with Critical hit, that's about 48K dmg and I only have 180 of them.

What makes me sad is, I can get Jarls up to 99% critical but... they are too slow, so Horsemen are my best bet still.

I have the Ogre set too but... eh, who needs Trolls?