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ckdamascus
11-06-2012, 10:38 PM
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I just beat the soothsayer, and got thrown into a portal back to Greenwort (woohoo!)

But my entire army is gone. Is there a way to get them back? Or should I replay the battle with the smallest army possible?

I really miss the Warrior Maidens and Trolls.

Saridu
11-06-2012, 11:16 PM
Yup they're gone - I also had reserves so that hurt.

But look on the bright side, you killed the spider and now you have Rune mages, Paladins , Royal Griffins (if you're lucky) and soon to be Rangers :)

You could replay the fight and minimize losses but I don't see the point personally. Firstly maidens are awesome but supply is a big problem (I had none in my first game and my second a measly five) the non viking islands rarely have viking units so you would have to be very lucky to use them throughout the game.

Trolls, meh, slow and cumbersome and again supply, the house of Jotun gives you three (it looks set, checked my second game and same number, same items) so your leadeship will quickly outgrow them.

You could buy a throwaway stack if no loss is not important - money is no problem is this game.

I picked up Sea Dogs (Whaler's station and the Smugglers haven had them - found the -20% pirate cap both games so that's a good bet) 20% dodge , run and that fantastic tri attack, good spider slayer and if you found teleport great skellie archer slayer.

Not harping on the Sea dogs too much but if plan to keep Soothsayers (that loki's touch is amazing after you actually start fighting none undead stacks) might want to go for the Skald skill - Jarl I think it is, +1 to all vikings and +1 morale to pirates ;-)

camelotcrusade
11-06-2012, 11:32 PM
I put all my limited troops in the two castle garrisons before I fought the spider, and then brought disposable troops with me.

Once you get to Greenwort, After you do a quest to get a ship you can sail back and pick them up - you don't even have to fight.

Honesty though, you will have so many choices for new troops (particularly if you uncover more islands by talking to the right NPCs) that you may find it refreshing to change things around.

ckdamascus
11-07-2012, 12:18 AM
Thanks for the tips guys!

Yeah, I already progressed without the units and frankly, I can see why people are saying Rune Mages are overpowered.

They are completely re-worked from Crossworlds and in a very very very imbalanced way.

If any of you guys remember Scrounger, I feel like this is my revenge on the game after dealing with Scrounger!

You are right about the supply of Maidens. As a Viking, I can't easily jack up my Chaos Magic to have a useful Sacrifice combination. I did have 29 of them though... sniffles.

The game feels a lot easier, but I think it also opens up a lot more combinations/builds/armies that normally wouldn't be possible.

Zechnophobe
11-07-2012, 12:23 AM
I put all my limited troops in the two castle garrisons before I fought the spider, and then brought disposable troops with me.

Once you get to Greenwort, After you do a quest to get a ship you can sail back and pick them up - you don't even have to fight.

Honesty though, you will have so many choices for new troops (particularly if you uncover more islands by talking to the right NPCs) that you may find it refreshing to change things around.

Wait a second... I've gotten to Demonis and haven't been able to sail back to Viking Lands. I been meaning to ask about this for a while... did I miss the ship? (I've found boats, but none had the ability to return to Nordligland).

namad
11-07-2012, 12:29 AM
I put all my limited troops in the two castle garrisons before I fought the spider, and then brought disposable troops with me.

Once you get to Greenwort, After you do a quest to get a ship you can sail back and pick them up - you don't even have to fight.

Honesty though, you will have so many choices for new troops (particularly if you uncover more islands by talking to the right NPCs) that you may find it refreshing to change things around.

how did you do this? isn't it impossible to access the first castle until after the spider is dead? or am I missing something about the plot/function?

Bhruic
11-07-2012, 12:52 AM
Wait a second... I've gotten to Demonis and haven't been able to sail back to Viking Lands. I been meaning to ask about this for a while... did I miss the ship? (I've found boats, but none had the ability to return to Nordligland).

As soon as you get in a boat again, you should have the option of sailing to other islands (from Greenwort). I believe if you are in Arlania or Verlon Wasteland you can't sail to the other islands, but I haven't tried.

Zechnophobe
11-07-2012, 01:26 AM
how did you do this? isn't it impossible to access the first castle until after the spider is dead? or am I missing something about the plot/function?

The first castle you just sail back there and no problem.

Saridu
11-07-2012, 01:42 AM
You can access the first castle again pretty much as soon as you can sail.

it's weird camelotcrusade if you speak to Kitano he gives this story about how you can't buy a boat and have to see the master of the guards first but I just clicked on the boat next to him and sailed away - I jacked his boat :) and he didn't mind ;-)

Celinna
11-07-2012, 06:27 AM
i had first to kill the undead pirates which stole the royal ship from the queen, after that i could sail away from greenwort.

Nevar
11-07-2012, 09:05 AM
Any boat will do. There are free ones in both Verlon and Arlania. As mentioned, you can only travel from Greenwort, not all three areas.

keko4321
11-07-2012, 02:19 PM
you can't use any boat to sail ...
only the one that you borrow from the general at greenwort , and to get that boat you will have to finish the undead quest for him .

Saridu
11-07-2012, 10:45 PM
I think this is related to that big patch that went through steam a couple of days ago that required a new game to fix the bugs.

I haven't restarted this char - too much of a good run :)

It's not really a problem, that villain isn't particularly difficult, I just don't know what ship he wants? Tried to sail one from the whalers station (which apparently is the solution to the first time he asks for a boat) but it didn't register.

But the boats are now lining up in Greenwort and Arlania, everytime I visit the map, there's another ship!

I either have to just kill him again or I fear the big restart is looming for me :(

Zechnophobe
11-07-2012, 11:11 PM
I'm rather amazed at this. I literally did everything in Arlania, and was progressing through demonis/hades with minor problems, only to discover I had 3 additional regions I could do things in...

Three regions all noticably lower strength than me. If I wasn't such a completionist, I'd just skip 'em.

Saridu
11-07-2012, 11:19 PM
Question Zechnophobe, how do I get to the Freedom Islands?

The smuggler on Istervag taunted me with "It's a secret!" and I have mostly finished Greenwort and visited Messalar.

If it's after the events on Demonis , I can wait :)

Zechnophobe
11-07-2012, 11:38 PM
Question Zechnophobe, how do I get to the Freedom Islands?

The smuggler on Istervag taunted me with "It's a secret!" and I have mostly finished Greenwort and visited Messalar.

If it's after the events on Demonis , I can wait :)

Someone in Arlania gives the map to the freedom isles. It might have been Kitano, but I'm not sure. Definitely not after Demonis.

Saridu
11-07-2012, 11:44 PM
Most probably Kitano, that makes sense, he allowed you to sail to freedom islands in TL.

Another part of my broken quest, sorry Empty eyes, guess you are going to become another Viking undead statistic.

androide77
07-28-2014, 03:05 PM
Sorry if I make mistakes writing (english is not my native language). I hope you can understand what I want to explain: When you are in Greenwort the first time you see all your troops are gone. Well... If you want go back to Nordlig you only have to fight against any enemy, before buying any troops, that is = without troops. You will die as soon as the combat start. Then you will respawn in Nordlig and you will have lost all your troops = NONE, because you didn't have any. You will not lose money. (You will even get a bit coins to help you to build a new army) and I repeat: you will not lose troops! (you can't have less than the zero units you had just before you died). So, it's cool: You are then in Nordlig without losing anything. And so you can get a boat from Sven, in Nordlig, and you can also buy units of the viking race. Then you can go back to Greenwort with your boat and troops.