Is It Time To Change The Name ??

[MB_Avro_UK]

Hi all,

Cliffs of Dover. I never liked that title. With all the improvements, is it time to change the name?

And would this help sales?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

[zakkandrachoff]

Maddox Sims: Unternehmen Seelöwe
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[Winger]

"Clovercliffs. Pounding of community". Or "The Patches of uselessness".

[5./JG27.Farber]

Maddox Sims: Unternehmen Seelöwe
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Like, alternative!

"Clovercliffs. Pounding of community". Or "The Patches of uselessness".

Are you mental?

The title will be changed on release of sequal right? Like old IL2? ;)

[Chivas]

The title will change when we buy the Sequel, and every Sequel after that. The trials and tribulations will soon be forgotten if the Sequels a success. It will then be just the Channel Map working on a more finished game engine and features. It will also be forgotten if the Sequels a failure, as the development and COD will die, unless the mod community can revive it.

[SlipBall]

The title will change when we buy the Sequel, and every Sequel after that. The trials and tribulations will soon be forgotten if the Sequels a success. It will then be just the Channel Map working on a more finished game engine and features. It will also be forgotten if the Sequels a failure, as the development and COD will die, unless the mod community can revive it.


I don't see that as a possibility at all, there is just way too much interest in the brand.

[He111]

In the corporate world, if a company has performed badly, directors know if they change the name, the old name takes the old problems with them .. sometimes. New name = new company ??? (so directors hope! :grin: )

I think 1C should change CLOD to "IL2 : Battle of Britain" .. then re-release "IL2 - Battle of Moscow, IL2 - Battle of Britain & IL2 - Spanish Civil Air War" as a triple combo.

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[MB_Avro_UK]

In the corporate world, if a company has performed badly, directors know if they change the name, the old name takes the old problems with them .. sometimes. New name = new company ??? (so directors hope! :grin: )

I think 1C should change CLOD to "IL2 : Battle of Britain" .. then re-release "IL2 - Battle of Moscow, IL2 - Battle of Britain & IL2 - Spanish Civil Air War" as a triple combo.

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That makes sense to me :)

[Chivas]

I don't see that as a possibility at all, there is just way too much interest in the brand.

Possible? The development is barely surviving now. COD was not a success and never came close to covering the development costs. That said its unlikely it would have anyway, as the development costs had risen too high for the initial release in the series to cover them.. If the Sequel doesn't make a significant improvements it will also fail. How long do you think IC will continue to throw millions at the development with little return. Interest? There may be interest, but the forums are full negativity that would drive anyone that may have had a budding interest in the series away. Luckily the series could easily be reborn if the Sequel addresses most of the game engines issues, all the past angst would soon be forgotten.

[Chivas]

In the corporate world, if a company has performed badly, directors know if they change the name, the old name takes the old problems with them .. sometimes. New name = new company ??? (so directors hope! :grin: )

I think 1C should change CLOD to "IL2 : Battle of Britain" .. then re-release "IL2 - Battle of Moscow, IL2 - Battle of Britain & IL2 - Spanish Civil Air War" as a triple combo.

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The development has already decided not to use IL-2 Battle of Britain, and used IL-2 COD, for a variety of reasons. It doesn't matter anymore as the series moves on anyway with new names. The only tricky part is letting people know that the Sequel (IL-2 Eastern Front, IL-2 BOM, IL-2 BOS) or whatever they name it, also includes the Battle of Britain.

Spanish Civil War, Battle for Poland, or Battle for France probably won't be made by the developer as the theaters is too small, but those will most likely be made by commercial third parties or community third parties, using the map SDK etc.

[SlipBall]

Possible? The development is barely surviving now. COD was not a success and never came close to covering the development costs. That said its unlikely it would have anyway, as the development costs had risen too high for the initial release in the series to cover them.. If the Sequel doesn't make a significant improvements it will also fail. How long do you think IC will continue to throw millions at the development with little return. Interest? There may be interest, but the forums are full negativity that would drive anyone that may have had a budding interest in the series away. Luckily the series could easily be reborn if the Sequel addresses most of the game engines issues, all the past angst would soon be forgotten.


I really think that the investors know all that, but discount it because of the interest level. They know the engine will finally get done someday, and the sequels will benefit, as will they. Show me another 1C product, or a Ubi product that has anywhere near the interest level of the Il-2 name. Investors look at level of interest, hit counts, threads, posts, in general the activity of the fan base. Sorry Chivas, but you are off the mark with your assumption, there is just too much interest for the investors to abandon...There are very few of us who will stop monitoring the development, no matter what they might claim out of their present anger. Il-2 is a natural survivor even in this a depressed world economy, because it is very unique.

[CaptainDoggles]

I always liked the name Storm of War, to be honest.

[Continu0]

I always liked the name Storm of War, to be honest.

I think something like that will be coming. It is time to start a new series. "Il-2 Sturmovik" had it´s time.

[Pato Salvaje]

Spanish Civil War, Battle for Poland, or Battle for France probably won't be made by the developer as the theaters is too small, but those will most likely be made by commercial third parties or community third parties, using the map SDK etc.


Spanish Civil War a "too small theatre"?... lol

Anyway, I´ll be happy if any 3rd party make these scenarios... :-P

[Chivas]

I really think that the investors know all that, but discount it because of the interest level. They know the engine will finally get done someday, and the sequels will benefit, as will they. Show me another 1C product, or a Ubi product that has anywhere near the interest level of the Il-2 name. Investors look at level of interest, hit counts, threads, posts, in general the activity of the fan base. Sorry Chivas, but you are off the mark with your assumption, there is just too much interest for the investors to abandon...There are very few of us who will stop monitoring the development, no matter what they might claim out of their present anger. Il-2 is a natural survivor even in this a depressed world economy, because it is very unique.

I agree that he investors would benefit from a long successful series, which I've said a hundred times, BUT if the Sequel fails there is little chance the IC investors will keep supporting the devs and losing millions of dollars.

[He111]

The development has already decided not to use IL-2 Battle of Britain, and used IL-2 COD, for a variety of reasons. It doesn't matter anymore as the series moves on anyway with new names. The only tricky part is letting people know that the Sequel (IL-2 Eastern Front, IL-2 BOM, IL-2 BOS) or whatever they name it, also includes the Battle of Britain.

Spanish Civil War, Battle for Poland, or Battle for France probably won't be made by the developer as the theaters is too small, but those will most likely be made by commercial third parties or community third parties, using the map SDK etc.

The reason i suggested Spanish Civil War was that it requires no more aircraft ! We already have 109 E-1, He 111 (H? E?), CR 42 .. and hopefully we'll get I-15, I-16 and SB2 in BOM ... so a pseudo Spanish Civil war is already there ... kinda! :grin: Plus, JU 52 should be already mostly done ? yes? Love to see some Spanish Civil War skins!

Sequel fail ?? how can it? The game is getting bugs fixed. New aircraft. The only way I could imagine the sequel failing is if the developers screw up the Version Control, and we get get alot of old bugs !

If the developers want to save costs and release times, just allow modding / release a SDK. I have a flyable defiant and P96 in my sights! :grin:

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[David198502]

I always liked the name Storm of War, to be honest.

+1

[Chivas]

The reason i suggested Spanish Civil War was that it requires no more aircraft ! We already have 109 E-1, He 111 (H? E?), CR 42 .. and hopefully we'll get I-15, I-16 and SB2 in BOM ... so a pseudo Spanish Civil war is already there ... kinda! :grin: Plus, JU 52 should be already mostly done ? yes? Love to see some Spanish Civil War skins!

Sequel fail ?? how can it? The game is getting bugs fixed. New aircraft. The only way I could imagine the sequel failing is if the developers screw up the Version Control, and we get get alot of old bugs !

If the developers want to save costs and release times, just allow modding / release a SDK. I have a flyable defiant and P96 in my sights! :grin:

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I agree the Spanish Civil War could be done, but not by the developer because it simply it wouldn't be a big enough draw. Like you say it already has many of the aircraft, and with the release of the SDK in the Sequel, community or other third parties could make the map and campaigns required.

Yes the Sequel could fail. Personally I think it has a great chance to be successful, but there is alot of work that needs to be done.

[Jaws2002]

Is It Time To Change The Name ??

Yep. Change the name..... and bunch of people working on the project.

[smink1701]

Maddox Games - Over the Cliffs of Dover

Just kidding but couldn't resist. :grin:

[ATAG_Doc]

Bugs of Dover

[hiro]

yeah i like CaptainDoggles's idea


Get Oleg back as consultant / helper, rename series to SOW, and start off with the SOW: BOM with a bang and bonus / update for Cliffs, which now is called Battle of Britain.


Or they can't get Oleg back, but fix everything, have a good game working and start calling everything by their operational names like Operation Sea Lion or what not.


And the Spanish Civil War has enough to make a great game. If they made it awesome and legendary instead of beta maxed and buggy. Regardless of which theater, as long as its awesome and legendary it will work.

But I'm saying some theaters have more release the kraken effect. Like if they said right after BOM they'd come out with 1944 Europe or Pacific, people would be buzzing more about it.