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jcenzano
09-12-2012, 10:38 AM
I have asked B6 several times about SLI.

It is "funny" that he is asking US about it before giving us a single word on the matter.

Quid pro quo, my dear Black6, quid pro quo...

Korn
09-12-2012, 10:58 AM
Probably he's trying to establish the priority level for this issue.

I think the Steam survey does not offer this data... also almost certainly global Steam statistics would be quite different, at this time we have a 27%+ of SLI/Crossfire users for CoD players, which i think is really high.

GraveyardJimmy
09-12-2012, 11:10 AM
Answers from communication thread:

Is in the upcomming Patch SLI and Quad SLI still working as "Performance Break"?Is this crazy feature still in? Or did you solve the Problem?

We haven’t made changes to our SLI and Quad SLI support in the upcoming patch.

More specifically about the SLI question.
SLI support is two-ways, it needs to be in our game and in NVidia drivers. We have it in our game, but the patch needs to be certified by NVidia and a change needs to be added on their end.
We probably will try to get the upcoming betapatch certified by NVidia and get SLI support for the game with the next driver release.

We've a plan of work. My request change nothing. As I know this problem will start to fix after patch release.

BlackSix
09-12-2012, 11:34 AM
I have asked B6 several times about SLI.

It is "funny" that he is asking US about it before giving us a single word on the matter.

Quid pro quo, my dear Black6, quid pro quo...

It's "funny" that you didn't read forum and didn't see my answerS.
This poll is my personal interest which appeared after statement "Many users have SLI and Crossfire systems (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=459973&postcount=232)".
GraveyardJimmy (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/member.php?u=35215), thanks.

Tree_UK
09-12-2012, 12:15 PM
You can surely forgive us being a little untrusting though Black Six after Luthier's continued excuses for SLI not working correctly over the years. :grin:

Cataplasma
09-12-2012, 01:47 PM
it mean that maybe they're searching for a reason to remove the problem. After a year of work they're probably unable to solve the sli problem, so they're maybe trying to hide themselves behind a low percentage of sli owners. After a year that we're talking about this problem suggesting people to buy a single powerfull card.

Chivas
09-12-2012, 06:01 PM
You can surely forgive us being a little untrusting though Black Six after Luthier's continued excuses for SLI not working correctly over the years. :grin:

The SLI feature could have easily changed/delayed the devs and Nvidia's work, due to the graphic engine rewrite. I agree some people could be untrusting if they were somehow unaware of the graphic rewrite, or just conveniently forget it, to suit an agenda. I would assume that Nvidia would delay any work they are required to do to make SLI work better with COD, until the devs stops making major changes to the games graphic engine.

Tree_UK
09-12-2012, 06:14 PM
The SLI feature could have easily changed/delayed the devs and Nvidia's work, due to the graphic engine rewrite. I agree some people could be untrusting if they were somehow unaware of the graphic rewrite, or just conveniently forget it, to suit an agenda. I would assume that Nvidia would delay any work they are required to do to make SLI work better with COD, until the devs stops making major changes to the games graphic engine.

lol, thats funny.

Chivas
09-12-2012, 06:52 PM
lol, thats funny.

Is that the best you can do. :)

Tree_UK
09-12-2012, 07:11 PM
Is that the best you can do. :)

Well I agree that the new all singing and all dancing graphics engine rewrite is responsible for lots of things not working, clouds etc etc, but SLI as never worked with the new graphics engine or even the old one, so thats why all I could do was laugh at your post because I really thought you were joking.

Flanker35M
09-12-2012, 07:36 PM
S!

I bet CoD is not the only game out there with problems when using SLI or CrossFire. Seems to be more trouble than worth.

JG52Uther
09-12-2012, 07:39 PM
I have never used SLI or crossfire in a game, although the last 2 motherboards I have had have been capable.
More trouble than its worth for me, I would be better off with a good single card. For triple screens etc I can see a reason.

RickRuski
09-12-2012, 08:25 PM
This is the first build I have done with a Sli capable M/B. Sure there are some problems with C.o.D. and Sli/Crossfire but that doesn't mean they aren't good systems. A lot of other programs work very well with multi card setups (Il2 1946 for one). Ok I can hear it already,"but 1946 is OGL not DX" so what, there are a lot, no most of the hardware manufacturers are proceeding with multi card options. Why would they do this if they considered it was a failing system. I have been trying to get the best from my Sli that I can by trying different things and find it is working reasonably well for me. Sure I have some micro stutters when looking down or near the ground but so are a lot of single card users. Sli is giving me better performance with less stress on my graphics cards. Even a lot of us who are single card users are complaining about performance so they are throwing more and more money into their systems to try and get it right. There are a major part of the supporters of this sim who can't afford to put thousands of dollars into an upgrade for C.o.D. and they shoudn't have to. Come on team do the right thing by the public that are supporting you and give us the performance that was promised, or see sales of the sequel not reach the levels you hope for.

r0bc
09-12-2012, 08:46 PM
I have no problems with SLI outside COD....I hope they get it fixed.

Jaws2002
09-12-2012, 09:45 PM
From the looks of it, almost 30% of the players have multi gpu setup. That's a lot, specially when you think that many players didn't bother getting SLI/Xfire, because the game doesn't suport it.
I have no problems runing sli in many games. It has it's advantages and it's a cheap way to boost the GPU performance without throwing away your older card.

I'm not holding my breath tho. We've heared the exct same excuses since relese: ..."our game is sli compatible, we wait for next Nvidia driver to implement it."

We've been told this multiple times. It's not going to happen before next paid release, if ever.

335th_GRAthos
09-12-2012, 10:26 PM
For triple screens etc I can see a reason.

There is nothing like playing a flight sim on three screens ;)


Oh wait! There is....playing on four screens! :)


or, maybe many screens? ;)

http://grathos.de/temp/Multiple_Monitors.jpg


~S~

He111
09-12-2012, 10:33 PM
Will 1C try to sell BOM without SLI / CROSSFIRE support ? such a couragous decision!

I'm amazed the graphics rewrite didn't include multicard support.

This is getting very sad ..

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Chivas
09-12-2012, 10:38 PM
Well I agree that the new all singing and all dancing graphics engine rewrite is responsible for lots of things not working, clouds etc etc, but SLI as never worked with the new graphics engine or even the old one, so thats why all I could do was laugh at your post because I really thought you were joking.

Again you've twisted everything the developer is trying to do or has not completed yet negatively. The new graphic engine is still in beta stage and the final has yet to be released. I assume when the graphic rewrite has been finalized Nvidia can optimize their drivers to help SLI perform better in COD.

RickRuski
09-13-2012, 04:28 AM
Certainly hope so Chivas, 17 months is a long time to wait after Luthier stated Sli was their next big priority. Now they are asking for a poll to see how many of us are using Sli/Crossfire. If they are going to finally get Sli up and running then Crossfire has to be also in the mix for those with Radeon cards.

Edit: -

Oops, failed to read the poll properly, there is a Crossfire poll.

He111
09-13-2012, 06:20 AM
Comparing a single 580 and 580 SLI ;

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/584?vs=517

SLI definitely makes a difference.

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Tree_UK
09-13-2012, 06:50 AM
Again you've twisted everything the developer is trying to do or has not completed yet negatively. The new graphic engine is still in beta stage and the final has yet to be released. I assume when the graphic rewrite has been finalized Nvidia can optimize their drivers to help SLI perform better in COD.

Ah yes of course, I thought it was me who was twisting things regarding SLI. sorry folks.

Chivas
09-13-2012, 07:01 AM
Ah yes of course, I thought it was me who was twisting things regarding SLI. sorry folks.

So your suggesting that a rewrite of a major part of the game engine would have no effect on the implementation of SLI, or the driver optimizations Nvidia would have to write. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, just trying to learn more about the implementation of SLI.

Tree_UK
09-13-2012, 07:43 AM
So your suggesting that a rewrite of a major part of the game engine would have no effect on the implementation of SLI, or the driver optimizations Nvidia would have to write. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, just trying to learn more about the implementation of SLI.

Well I dont think it would have any effect, maybe if more content was being added to the game, but in CLOD's case the game is being stripped to the bare bones to try and get it running. The point I am making is that Luthier as been telling us for the last 30 months that SLI works, the only thing stopping it working is outside parties, for example, ubisoft with the epilepsy filter, now its Nvidia, 8 months ago Luthier stated that the next Nvidia driver would have a CLOD profile, this was completely incorrect. In truth you shouldn't need to have a Nvidia profile to make it work, If the game supports SLI you can make one yourself as is the case with IL2FB, with CLOD you can also do this but the gains are minimal which suggests that the problem is with the game itself. Anyhow it looks like they may now be finally addressing it and hopefully this time SLI users will finally get some benefit from their hardware.

RickRuski
09-13-2012, 07:55 AM
Fixing C.o.D. doesn't seem any longer to be their no 1 priority, Luthier I think it was in one of his statements said that the majority of the team are working on the sequel. That being the case I think we won't see any improvement in the Sli/Crossfire problem that was promised until the sequel is just about done, which means no Sli/Crossfire until the new graphics engine is ready, or they could release the current one to Nvidia/ AMD for Sli/Crossfire support if the sequel is going to be possibly 12 months away. Maybe then let any further development come with the sequel.

The other thing to remember is this poll only reflects the votes of registered members of this forum, what about Sli/Crossfire users that are on other forums that aren't members here. Near 30% users is a large count and others may go multi card if the support was here, it certainly has its advantages. I ceryainly wouldn't build any system now without a multi card support m/b.