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He111
08-31-2012, 06:10 AM
Please, please please 1C add this aircraft to BOM .. so we might also create Spanish Civil war scenarios! :grin:

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/heinkel_he51/he51-131.jpg

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/he51.htm

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addman
08-31-2012, 08:33 AM
Hahahaha! Fat chance! If it's not a 109, Spitfire, Yak or Lagg variant, it won't be made.

P.S I wish it wasn't so, I also would like a He 51 or Hs-123 for example. :(

esmiol
08-31-2012, 08:40 AM
for this kind of plane i think we have to wait the coming of an SDK for plane.

well before asking plane or anything else :) let'em fix the engine of CLOD ;)

klem
08-31-2012, 08:46 AM
Please, please please 1C add this aircraft to BOM .. so we might also create Spanish Civil war scenarios! :grin:

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/heinkel_he51/he51-131.jpg

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/he51.htm

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Sequel #7, The Spanish Civil War. Might be #13 though. Plans change.

senseispcc
08-31-2012, 09:00 AM
Please, please please 1C add this aircraft to BOM .. so we might also create Spanish Civil war scenarios! :grin:

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/heinkel_he51/he51-131.jpg

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/he51.htm

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Why not?! Like yes suggested in a Spanish civil war against some early I16...


:cool:

VO101_Tom
08-31-2012, 09:16 AM
for this kind of plane i think we have to wait the coming of an SDK for plane.

well before asking plane or anything else :) let'em fix the engine of CLOD ;)

Too rare plane, too much dark spots in the knowledge. You simply can't make a plane into CLoD without proper technical drawings, and manuals (I mean, if you want the high detailed, accurate plane, like the others). You have lack of info about the cockpit, the equipments (animation, behavior, and the efect of every lever nad button in the cocpit, and the relations of these equipments). You have no info about the engine restrictions, performances, correct FM, etc.
I'm afraid, the making of the detailed, accurate and fully functionally plane much more complex than in il-2. :rolleyes:
Not to mention, if you have to make scenario, maps and opponents for the new plane, your tasks multiplied very fast...

15.Span_Valalo
08-31-2012, 10:27 AM
please, please please 1c add this aircraft to bom .. So we might also create spanish civil war scenarios! :grin:

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/heinkel_he51/he51-131.jpg

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/he51.htm

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+100000000000000

yobnaf
08-31-2012, 10:37 AM
Too rare plane, too much dark spots in the knowledge. You simply can't make a plane into CLoD without proper technical drawings, and manuals (I mean, if you want the high detailed, accurate plane, like the others). You have lack of info about the cockpit, the equipments (animation, behavior, and the efect of every lever nad button in the cocpit, and the relations of these equipments). You have no info about the engine restrictions, performances, correct FM, etc.
I'm afraid, the making of the detailed, accurate and fully functionally plane much more complex than in il-2. :rolleyes:
Not to mention, if you have to make scenario, maps and opponents for the new plane, your tasks multiplied very fast...


In Germany someone ist working on a He 51 replica - project, so there are technical drawings, manuals etc.

David198502
08-31-2012, 10:39 AM
bf 108 as a trainer!
but i doubt 1c will deliver anything really exciting...

He111
08-31-2012, 01:05 PM
Point being, we'll hopefully get these in BOM > I-15, I-16, SB-2 ... we already have the Bf109E-1 (which can stand in for D), CR 42 .. so all we really need is one more, the unsung hero of the Condor legion - HE 51 ! :grin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR9LuQON6P8

.. and NO, a tarted up CR 42 won't do!

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kestrel79
08-31-2012, 01:23 PM
I love flyin the biplanes. Would enjoy flying a german one.

Kobold10
08-31-2012, 01:30 PM
I would prefer a Bf 109 E4N Model, and a Bf 109E7/N Model (after Oktober 1940).
That would be more probably....

jamesdietz
08-31-2012, 02:36 PM
He-51?? I'm still hoping for the officially previewed ( & promised sort of...)THE He-59!
( There was even a skin for it in one of the patches!!)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/Screenshots/He-59C-2_01.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/Screenshots/He-59C-2_02.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/page5_50.jpg

Freycinet
09-04-2012, 12:21 AM
Point being, we'll hopefully get these in BOM > I-15, I-16, SB-2 ... we already have the Bf109E-1 (which can stand in for D), CR 42 .. so all we really need is one more, the unsung hero of the Condor legion - HE 51 !

Very good arguments there! You´re right, there will be a lot of Spanish Civil War planes made...

He111
09-04-2012, 05:29 AM
yep, 2 games in one - "Battle of Moscow" AND "Prequel to World War - Spanish Civil Conflict" !

Great selling point!

all that's needed is a simple He51 and finishing a He59.

Go for Gold! :grin:

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CWMV
09-04-2012, 06:00 AM
And a B and D model 109

baronWastelan
09-04-2012, 06:24 AM
and dont forget the Bakewell LB-3

CWMV
09-04-2012, 03:32 PM
and dont forget the Bakewell LB-3

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senseispcc
09-04-2012, 06:58 PM
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I am more realistic and vote for the HS-123 the German used it from Spain until 1945.

addman
09-04-2012, 07:15 PM
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I am more realistic and vote for the HS-123 the German used it from Spain until 1945.

Me too, the HS-123 was also part of operation typhoon (the advance on Moscow) where it had a significant role as a tactical ground attack aircraft. The HS-123 would be a very logical choice given the variety of theaters it was in. +1 for the Hs-123!

VO101_Tom
09-04-2012, 11:45 PM
I don't wanna be rude, but a little realistic. I know, everyone have a favorite plane, but please, be reasonable, this never will be happen. We all well know, with these complexity, the devs can able to make only a few aircraft per year (and most of them only subtypes). The exotic but useless planes only a waste of resources. Like the G.50 beast or Br.20. I dont know, who made that decision, but the Regia Aeronautica flew only a couple of sortie over the channel... and the game sadly follow this "historically fact". Nobody fly with these types (Ok, I do sometimes, and i saw rarely one or two other ppl, but at the end, i always regret). Slow, weak, and the germans more effective in every aspects. If you have to FIGHT, you will never fly with these. If you want to fly around without purpose, well, the ms flysim is always available. The devs should made such a types, if they have nothing else to do...

(and before anybody accuse me, i'm not talking new 109's subtypes, rather a flyable Wellington or Defiant for example - just think about it, they would be much more valuable and proper types in BoB...)

The Spanish Civil War is the same. Exotic, but not a popular map. I doubt, it would on the top part of the list... (Rather Russia, Afrika, Mediterranean, Western-Europe, Far-East)... Not to mention you have to build and programming almost all of the types (at least very early subtypes). E-1 as D? It's a bad joke right? Who want to fly against it? with I-15 or I-16s5? And what about E-3? At the end, there was E-3 too. And the other subtypes? Do17E, He-111E, 109 D, Ju-87A, completelly new types: I-15, I-16, He-51, Hs-123, etc... be honest: too much work for an unpopular pre-war conflict...

CWMV
09-05-2012, 02:57 AM
I dont know about unpopular, its one of the most popular mod subjects. Huge following there.

He111
09-05-2012, 12:06 PM
Hs123 ???? over the He51 !! ??? :P~~~~~~

In which plane did many German Aces start their careers ? .. NOT the pussy-willow Hs123, it was the He51 ! .. in spain.

The reign in Spain,
Falls mostly on the He51 plane!

Now repeat after me ....

The reign in Spain,
Falls mostly on the He51 plane!
The reign in Spain,
Falls mostly on the He51 plane!
The reign in Spain,
Falls mostly on the He51 plane!
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how could you not love her? those huge brow ridges , that cute button nose .. beauty in motion! :grin:

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addman
09-05-2012, 12:21 PM
Hs123 ???? over the He51 !! ??? :P~~~~~~

In which plane did many German Aces start their careers ? .. NOT the pussy-willow Hs123, it was the He51 ! .. in spain.


Adolf *cough! cough!* Galland *cough! cough!*

He111
09-05-2012, 12:31 PM
Adolf *cough! cough!* Galland *cough! cough!*

YES! Galland and too many others to mention here. :)

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senseispcc
09-05-2012, 02:32 PM
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He-51 was only used in Spain and was allready obsolete.
Uncle Galland was a ground attack pilot in Spain not a figther pilot!

He111
09-06-2012, 02:22 AM
OK! ok, 1C aren't going to build a He51 .. pity! :(

Ground attack only ???? LOL! who R U trying to kid.

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