Cliffs of Dover is the Best. (A few screenshots).

[MB_Avro_UK]

Hi all,

There has been a lot of negative talk here about the viability of this sim.

Let's take a look at these screenshots. Superb!!

Hurricane with DM.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_200255.jpg

Spitfire demise...

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210354.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210435.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210513.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210702.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210749.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210827.jpg

And a few more pics:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_173745.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_174727.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_175324.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Freycinet]

lovely screenies indeed, thanks for posting!

[_YoYo_]

Hi all,

There has been a lot of negative talk here about the viability of this sim.



Just only screenies....

76HkmgTcoDI

Regards.

[Chivas]

Hopefully the coders are up to the task and beancounter patient enough for COD to see its full potential.

[Momod]

Superb Work! This game is full of potential...:-)

[Marmusman]

+1

[JG52Krupi]

http://s5.postimage.org/lo4g4zjqv/shot_20120510_231903.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

:D enough said!

[Sailor Malan]

Great screen shots avro :) Sadly I believe that they screweing this sim up. It was better for me when first released as I had no issues that mattered. I feel its getting worse as they try and make it run on older machines and that is causing all the problems with cod just my 2 cents worth:) When you look at those shots it makes you reliese that this could be the greatest sim yet bit sadly people are pissed off with the waiting

[ATAG_Doc]

http://i.imgur.com/AnGjq.jpg

[He111]

..and if we had a proper (1946) mission recorder, i'd have produced a PLETHORA more videos and missions for promotion and consumption ..

Great photos! :grin:

.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Hi all,

I'm not trying to hijack the screenshot thread. I'm only posting screenies from the 'Front' if that makes sense. I have no ability or skills with photoshop etc.

Anyway, here's a few close-up screenies of a Spitfire v Stuka. The Stuka is a Tiger Tank to shoot down. Maybe I need .50's ?? :cool:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_200552.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_203606.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_203633.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_203740.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_203759.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_203821.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_203843.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_203957.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_204132.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_204608.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_204648.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[kristorf]

Ground and lighting (pre bets/alpha whatever) are stunning

http://s6.postimage.org/hudbvsdmp/PR_Q_6.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/wdkgx76rh/full/)

http://s6.postimage.org/9q57r1r7l/PR_Q_7.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/eosq5kv0d/full/)

[Les]

I like the way the lighting and landscape looks in this video (best viewed in 1080p expanded mode on Youtube). Don't know of another combat flight sim that's done it so well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVonurTwby0

[MB_Avro_UK]

A great video, Les. Thanks for posting. And a twist at the end!

[il_corleone]

I Agree, its the best :)

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5574/2012071200001q.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1145/2012071200003.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3647/2012071200004.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/2012071200004.jpg/)



some fresh for the Thread ;)

[zipper]

Just only screenies....

76HkmgTcoDI

Regards.


While this looks pretty good it raises a VERY big question concerning damage related flight modeling. How a hurricane could simply glide on after losing nearly a ton from about four feet forward of the original CG ... lol.

[TomcatViP]

Yes it is a serious flaw in that sim.

[Gourmand]

easy to be the best when it's the only ww2 simulator next-gen ;)


for me is the best and the worst at the same time ;)
both is in this soft ;)
and community wait a lot for the reducing of the worst, with taking great pleasure with the best:rolleyes:

[Trumper]

Some nice details BUT where's the soul of the B o B,the hundreds of bombers crossing the coastline,the squadrons of Hurricanes clawing into the bombers with the fighter escort snapping away ,the Spitfires attempting to turn the tables on the escort.

[ems9]

Well said mate!
People sometimes don't release they have a masterpiece in their hands!
Really nice SS's!

[Les]

Some nice details BUT where's the soul of the B o B,the hundreds of bombers crossing the coastline,the squadrons of Hurricanes clawing into the bombers with the fighter escort snapping away ,the Spitfires attempting to turn the tables on the escort.

If the game can survive at all, it might just be a matter of waiting for the hardware to catch up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hruTCx74iZw

[Blackdog_kt]

If the game can survive at all, it might just be a matter of waiting for the hardware to catch up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hruTCx74iZw

Yup. Just yesterday i was fumbling about in the FMB trying to make a bombing practice map. I laid down rows of tankers to construct a "grid" of sorts at sea level, so that i can then aim at the center of it and see how off center my bombs drop.

Well, i ended up with about 650 static ships and a slideshow, so i had to go back and revise things a bit :-P

However, despite the amount of objects clustered together, the mission did load and the game didn't crash. There are contemporary sims out there that have a cap of about 200 objects per mission before they start crashing, so i guess that as CoD is getting optimized and better hardware comes around we'll be able to get really massive scenarios.

[SiThSpAwN]

Yup. Just yesterday i was fumbling about in the FMB trying to make a bombing practice map. I laid down rows of tankers to construct a "grid" of sorts at sea level, so that i can then aim at the center of it and see how off center my bombs drop.

Well, i ended up with about 650 static ships and a slideshow, so i had to go back and revise things a bit :-P

However, despite the amount of objects clustered together, the mission did load and the game didn't crash. There are contemporary sims out there that have a cap of about 200 objects per mission before they start crashing, so i guess that as CoD is getting optimized and better hardware comes around we'll be able to get really massive scenarios.

Not to derail the thread further, but I think the problems with the game are half coding and half being ahead of its time, if you look at the scale of the map and all the details...

[Tavingon]

Really looking forward to the day when we can have GIANT battles!

[Jaws2002]

Cliffs of Dover is the Best

Yes it was. :(


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Jaws_18/Screenshot13603.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Jaws_18/shot_20110423_014013.jpg

[robtek]

What do ya mean, " it was"???

Some people like to revel in bad predictions, it seems.

[Peaveywolf]

So many negative people out there. you have bought the game already. You ain't getting a refund. One day it will be sorted out. Until then, get on with your lives. ;)

[fox3]

Hi all,

There has been a lot of negative talk here about the viability of this sim.

Let's take a look at these screenshots. Superb!!

Hurricane with DM.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_200255.jpg

Spitfire demise...

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210354.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210435.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210513.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210702.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210749.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210827.jpg

And a few more pics:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_173745.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_174727.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_175324.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Screenshots hmmm what about actual gameplay?

[fox3]

Hi all,

There has been a lot of negative talk here about the viability of this sim.

Let's take a look at these screenshots. Superb!!

Hurricane with DM.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_200255.jpg

Spitfire demise...

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210354.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210435.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210513.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210702.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210749.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120709_210827.jpg

And a few more pics:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_173745.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_174727.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120710_175324.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

When it runs as well as Rise of flight then maybe. ;)

[JG52Krupi]

What do ya mean, " it was"???

Some people like to revel in bad predictions, it seems.

he means try and get a picture like the first one he posted...

EDIT: in fact try to get both...

[fox3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzZiIByxgQA

[SKUD]

Why does it look like crafp now. Aliasing, pop up trees, dumbed down textures, streaky sky, rubic's cube textures. Every "improvement" since the first release has made the graphics worse. I was really happy two releases ago. As soon as I praised it in this forum, the screwed around with the graphics quality in two successive patches that not only made it look like hell it actually slowed my FR down.
There are video options settings for people who won't upgrade their crummy machines.
Why does the rest of the world have to suffer for their poor performance?
Quit yer Bi chin and go mow lawns or something for a new vid card.

[He111]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzZiIByxgQA

yeah, those old games bring back memories ..

.

[ems9]

Comparing CloD and RoF IMO is quite pointless to be honest.

Yes RoF runs better.
But CloD visually got much better ground details, plane details, lights shadows etc etc. Plus the flight models and all the other stuff that we don't actually see working on the background. (They are still working on it)

People shout stop pointing only to the down points, and actually watch the good ones.

[Blackdog_kt]

Not to derail the thread further, but I think the problems with the game are half coding and half being ahead of its time, if you look at the scale of the map and all the details...

I more or less agree ;)

When it runs as well as Rise of flight then maybe. ;)

When the same amount of money and time has been poured into the project, it could very well do run that well.

Honest question, where you around for the launch of that one? I was and i didn't buy it because of the online requirement, but kept following it in case they dropped it. They didn't and i moved on with other things, but i have a very clear memory of how things went during the first year or so after its release because i was following the news.

So, do you know how long it took to get RoF to the standard you are familiar with now? 18 months.

That's for a sim with a constant revenue stream due to the business model chosen and much lower demands on behalf of the engine:

-planes not rendering further than 2km from you (no, not even dots, they were simply invisible outside that range to conserve resources)

-an empty frontline where artillery shells explode on non-existent targets after being fired from non-existent guns (in other words, scripted events to spice things up)

-an inability to handle more than 200 or so objects in a single mission...trying to run a mission on a ROF server similar to the CoD ones used on ATAG was simply no go, the whole thing crashed

-all aircraft mounted guns having the same ballistic characteristics, it made no difference if you were firing spandaus or Lewis guns, the bullets, muzzle velocities, effect on DM were all the same.

and so on.

I remember all the complaints about the long distance ground textures turning low detail, the bad multi-core optimization, anti-aliasing not working, crashed to desktop, slow progress of updates and patches, etc etc etc.

Does it sound familiar? :-P


Why does it look like crafp now. Aliasing, pop up trees, dumbed down textures, streaky sky, rubic's cube textures. Every "improvement" since the first release has made the graphics worse. I was really happy two releases ago. As soon as I praised it in this forum, the screwed around with the graphics quality in two successive patches that not only made it look like hell it actually slowed my FR down.
There are video options settings for people who won't upgrade their crummy machines.
Why does the rest of the world have to suffer for their poor performance?
Quit yer Bi chin and go mow lawns or something for a new vid card.

Options, yes. Elitism, no. Respect other users and mind your language, at least until you decide to start paying for their upgrades. Then you have grounds to complain if they don't upgrade their PCs ;)


Also, to everyone else, keep the thread on topic. This thread is to discuss what you like about CoD and give some examples (stories/after action reports, screenshots, etc). If you want to talk about the things you don't like, open a new thread. It's not like someone is preventing you from creating new topics. If you keep derailing this one, posts will be moved/deleted.

[hiro]

yes this game is sweet. TY for the shots

Sometimes it helps to remember just how awesome it is


that hurricane looks it was undergoing engine repair in the HMS Elizabeth (you know the the mega airship aircraft carrier with triple runways and two cross over runways using American Helium. ) and it got bumped out of the hanger bay and fell out the back during uber turbulence.



yeah for those complaining about the ROF, man don't you know ROF is the new 1946.

It is the spiritual and literal successor to Il-2 1946, so its right to make comparisons. Because if ya ain't doing it right, ya ain't doin it wrong, so this is why they keep singing the ROF song.



Doesn't matter if apples or oranges grow on different trees, they don't taste the same, and the method of accessing the edible part is unique to each fruit, because the orange is the new apple or the apple the new orange, you can compare them.


Because both games have props, both use piston engine airplanes, they've got machine guns, so its the same.


Shoot man, in the simhq forums they're (ROF fans) are even saying the ROF engine is better for the A-10 then DCS' :!:

[MB_Avro_UK]

Anyway, back on topic.

Here's a few more raw and untouched screenshots. This time, we see a Blenheim attacking a Me 109:cool: Amazing optimism with a single machine gun. (Both aircraft AI)

Out of the sun...!!!

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120712_205412.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120712_204652.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120712_204707.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120712_204752.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120712_204920.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120712_205030.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120712_205321.jpg


I remember with il2 1946 when making co-ops, that the AI Blenheim would become a fighter after dropping it's bombs.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[fox3]

But you can fly though the trees. :confused:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI

[JG52Krupi]

But you can fly though the trees. :confused:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI

If RoF is so good fox3 piss off and play it instead of bringing your trolling behaviour over here!

[fox3]

Hmmm think i may of hit a nerve. :cool:

[SQB]

Hmmm think i may of hit a nerve. :cool:

Nah, the main thing is that every second post in this thread is you pointing out the same things in ROF. Sure, it runs better, so does Il2 Forgotten Battles, it's an older and more simple engine so that's a given. Yes, it's in a more polished state, once again it's had years to get there (and it had a similarly rough start). Most of us are ROF players as well, although the game has started to get a little behind the times for me (unfortunately). It's not a contest, and threads like these are great for sharing pictures and highlighting little details made possible by such an advanced engine, your multitude of posts don't contribute much to this discussion.

[Bewolf]

Hmmm think i may of hit a nerve. :cool:

I think you are unnerving. This is the Il2 CoD Forum, not the RoF Foum.

[catito14]

Come on guys, ROF is an WW1 sim ... with airplanes less complicated to operate than the WW2 ones therefore less complicated to simulate.

[fox3]

ROF is awsome dont you think? ;)

[Jaws2002]

I think you are unnerving. This is the Il2 CoD Forum, not the RoF Foum.


You know a game (and community) is going down the drain when mods and fanboys try to remove or suppress any mention of other games in the forum.

We used to chat with Oleg about other flight sims and games and now, when someone mentions another flight sim, ten guys jump in for "damage control". :(

We used to have a high resolution screenshots thread on UBI, that ran for years, and we posted tons of images about other games and people were never this offended by it.

It's really sad.:(

[kristorf]

The original screenshot thread has been moved and buried in the 'Pilots Lounge' (for some reason??) if you want to see more screens

[Blackdog_kt]

You know a game (and community) is going down the drain when mods and fanboys try to remove or suppress any mention of other games in the forum.

We used to chat with Oleg about other flight sims and games and now, when someone mentions another flight sim, ten guys jump in for "damage control". :(

We used to have a high resolution screenshots thread on UBI, that ran for years, and we posted tons of images about other games and people were never this offended by it.

It's really sad.:(

It's not the discussion of other sims that's boring, in fact most people here fly other sims as well. It's the attitude with which it is usually brought to the table, ie "don't fly this, fly that instead", like a negative advertisement or something.

I agree with what you say partly, but the truth is that when every single thread tends to go down the same road it's all the more difficult to maintain some balance. What i'm trying to say is that if certain people (not all, just a few really and i'm definitely not pointing the finger at you) could sort out their manners a little bit, we wouldn't need to be keeping such a tight leash on the place and as a result discussions could broaden up a bit. It's a "help me help you" situation ;)

[Jaws2002]

I know they moved it. What I was trying to say is that, in the old UBIzo "Il2 high resolution screenshots" thread, we posted a lot of shots from other games and nobody complained about it.
Now as soon as someone mentions another game some people feel that CLOD is treatened in some way and start complaining or worse. I've seen mods jump in and move simple, honest informative threads (info that a new patch was avaible for ROF) away from the general discission. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm not at all interested in looking at screenshots from this game, as most of the beauty was chopped off.

[carguy_]

Now as soon as someone mentions another game some people feel that CLOD is treatened in some way and start complaining or worse. I've seen mods jump in and move simple, honest informative threads (info that a new patch was avaible for ROF) away from the general discission. :rolleyes:

Talking about another game`s pros and good ideas where applicable is never bad. Making a RoF forum out of CloD forum is.


Anyway, I'm not at all interested in looking at screenshots from this game, as most of the beauty was chopped off.
Then please another time choose to avoid such threads as RoF screenshot thread is elswhere.

[JG52Uther]

Of course, theres always the possibility of someone perma banned a long time ago for trolling the forums re registering just to spam any positive CoD threads with RoF info.
Just off to check a few things.

[s_goretsky]

I completely agree that CloD is the best, even considering its flaws.

[JG52Krupi]

You know a game (and community) is going down the drain when mods and fanboys try to remove or suppress any mention of other games in the forum.

We used to chat with Oleg about other flight sims and games and now, when someone mentions another flight sim, ten guys jump in for "damage control". :(

We used to have a high resolution screenshots thread on UBI, that ran for years, and we posted tons of images about other games and people were never this offended by it.

It's really sad.:(

I know what you mean and i am all for a comparison BUT if i went on the rof forum and spammed about cod i would be banned...

there should be a rof subforum ;)

[ATAG_Bliss]

ROF has gotten many of it's kinks worked out over 3 years. But it will never be anything more than a dog fight game. There's no ground war to support the air war. There's not even any real trenches in the game - both in the in game map or even as an object for the mission builder. Kinda important in WWI don't ya think?

With that said, it runs smooth to a point. But this point is because server hosters know what they are limited with. IE - they have to make missions with this in mind. You try to build some sort of WWI scenario and your mission won't even load or it would simply crash the Dserver. You can't even have as many AI as I have fingers in an online mission or the server is toast. Around 50 players is all you can have online, taking into account that in order to do that you can't really have any AI (3 AI in a mission don't count), can't have hardly any ground objects, or any other objects in general, all this directly relates to the games master browser where it must phone home and control everything. Any sort of overage, too many objects, too many players, too many people dropping bombs at once (yes - really), and the master server (ET phone home) loses connection and the server crashes.

In other words, what you are left with is flying around in a baron wasteland with no front lines, no objects, and hardly any players - dog fight game. With that said, this isn't a jab at the ROF team. They've polished what they've got to work with quite well. They keep adding more things for realism - just like they finally made all the guns have different rates of fires, instead of every single machine gun on every plane being exactly the same. But you can only polish the engine from which you started so much. Those restrictions/limitations will always be part of that game. Therefore ROF will never be anything other than a dogfight simulator. To some people that's perfectly fine, to others like me that see it, it's not. I played ROF from the start and harped about the limitations and just like any sim forum was met with the people with the blinders on attacking me for trying to make the sim better.

Now, Cliffs on the hand has more problems than I can list. But the one problem it doesn't, which IMO is the #1 thing any company should look at in making a sim, is the engine itself. Sure the game engine has problems, but that's not my point. My point is, it was made to support massive amounts of players, objects, planes, etc. It might run like absolute dog crap, but I can throw 1000 AI into the air at once and the game won't crash. My GFX card might turn into a blow torch, but it loads. I can throw 10's of thousands of objects into a mission and throw it on a server or load it through the FMB and again, my game won't crash, server won't crash etc. It might take me 45 minutes to join the damn server. But I eventually can. This is what I call the foundation of something great. This is why I will support these guys until they've said the doors are closing. If all these issues get sorted, this will be the best combat flight sim ever made, right next to the old best flight sim ever made (46).

Many things are frustrating - the bugs, communication lines, the amount of time to get some sort of fixes happening. But in the end of the day, there's no other sim that has anywhere near the amount of potential this does. Broken or not, one only needs to open up the mission builder for both games and notice ROF has about as many objects in it's entirety to use for a mission as IL2COD does just in types of fences. They've painstakingly modeled thousands of objects for a reason. I'm hopeful that someday we'll get to see that.

Coming to this forum and preaching about ROF is pointless. It's a fine game for the airquake. But it will never resemble anything else. Even the owner of ROF stated to "fix" the game engine would cost millions and they aren't going to do it. That's the same time I finally said buying scarves, pistols, water, fuel, and temp gauges, gun sights etc., was enough.

[ParaB]

The problem is that RoF is simply great fun, offline as well as online, while CloD isn't. Simple as that.

I'm looking forward to many more years with RoF and DCS, while I follow the sad joke that is CloD development half crying, half laughing.

[Feathered_IV]

True enough that RoF is working well and it's ok if a bit of enthusiasm for it bubbles over into here. Willfully spamming it like Stigler1 used to do with targetware stuff on Ubi back in the day is not on. It just turns more people away than it attracts.

@ Bliss, thanks for the info. I read that with great interest. Always fascinating to know what goes on under the hood.

[Chivas]

ROF has gotten many of it's kinks worked out over 3 years. But it will never be anything more than a dog fight game. There's no ground war to support the air war. There's not even any real trenches in the game - both in the in game map or even as an object for the mission builder. Kinda important in WWI don't ya think?

With that said, it runs smooth to a point. But this point is because server hosters know what they are limited with. IE - they have to make missions with this in mind. You try to build some sort of WWI scenario and your mission won't even load or it would simply crash the Dserver. You can't even have as many AI as I have fingers in an online mission or the server is toast. Around 50 players is all you can have online, taking into account that in order to do that you can't really have any AI (3 AI in a mission don't count), can't have hardly any ground objects, or any other objects in general, all this directly relates to the games master browser where it must phone home and control everything. Any sort of overage, too many objects, too many players, too many people dropping bombs at once (yes - really), and the master server (ET phone home) loses connection and the server crashes.

In other words, what you are left with is flying around in a baron wasteland with no front lines, no objects, and hardly any players - dog fight game. With that said, this isn't a jab at the ROF team. They've polished what they've got to work with quite well. They keep adding more things for realism - just like they finally made all the guns have different rates of fires, instead of every single machine gun on every plane being exactly the same. But you can only polish the engine from which you started so much. Those restrictions/limitations will always be part of that game. Therefore ROF will never be anything other than a dogfight simulator. To some people that's perfectly fine, to others like me that see it, it's not. I played ROF from the start and harped about the limitations and just like any sim forum was met with the people with the blinders on attacking me for trying to make the sim better.

Now, Cliffs on the hand has more problems than I can list. But the one problem it doesn't, which IMO is the #1 thing any company should look at in making a sim, is the engine itself. Sure the game engine has problems, but that's not my point. My point is, it was made to support massive amounts of players, objects, planes, etc. It might run like absolute dog crap, but I can throw 1000 AI into the air at once and the game won't crash. My GFX card might turn into a blow torch, but it loads. I can throw 10's of thousands of objects into a mission and throw it on a server or load it through the FMB and again, my game won't crash, server won't crash etc. It might take me 45 minutes to join the damn server. But I eventually can. This is what I call the foundation of something great. This is why I will support these guys until they've said the doors are closing. If all these issues get sorted, this will be the best combat flight sim ever made, right next to the old best flight sim ever made (46).

Many things are frustrating - the bugs, communication lines, the amount of time to get some sort of fixes happening. But in the end of the day, there's no other sim that has anywhere near the amount of potential this does. Broken or not, one only needs to open up the mission builder for both games and notice ROF has about as many objects in it's entirety to use for a mission as IL2COD does just in types of fences. They've painstakingly modeled thousands of objects for a reason. I'm hopeful that someday we'll get to see that.

Coming to this forum and preaching about ROF is pointless. It's a fine game for the airquake. But it will never resemble anything else. Even the owner of ROF stated to "fix" the game engine would cost millions and they aren't going to do it. That's the same time I finally said buying scarves, pistols, water, fuel, and temp gauges, gun sights etc., was enough.

I agree....everytime I look into the FMB I'm amazed at all the work put into it. If they ever get the game engine optimized and stable, the missions you will be able to build with the FMB, Triggers, etc will make COD what everyone expected along time ago. Hopefully the development will be able to indure and grow along with our home computer systems. It will harken back to the fun of the original series only with alot more immersion.

[KG26_Alpha]

Anyway, back on topic.




I remember with il2 1946 when making co-ops, that the AI Blenheim would become a fighter after dropping it's bombs.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Anything with a fixed forward firing gun, it seems, turns into a fighter.

A20
B25
Pe2
Stukas
HS129
Vals
etc etc

[philip.ed]

I agree to everything Bliss wrote. But the sad fact is that the engine is entirely useless if it is never efficiently worked with to achieve its potential. Or to at least achieve a sim that runs well and meets the high expectations previous flight-sims have laid out.

It's like owning a race-horse which has the potential to be the best in the world, but never training it efficiently to meet its potential. Unless the CloD engine is fixed/manipulated correctly, CloD will never be anything other than a channel scrap, which is why the comparisons to RoF are almost laughable, because in its current state CloD is only a dogfight/intercept-scrap at best.

It can be so much more.

[ATAG_Bliss]

.... CloD will never be anything other than a channel scrap, which is why the comparisons to RoF are almost laughable, because in its current state CloD is only a dogfight/intercept-scrap at best.

It can be so much more.

Strange - I can only assume you don't play cliffs online or ROF online for that matter? There's already easily 20x more going on in an online Cliffs mission than you could possible ever have in ROF. And that is taking into account all the stuff that doesn't work. In other words, you're right in saying you can't compare the 2. I think I have more objects as AAA at 3 airfields than you could have in an entire ROF mission, let alone the rest of the 100's of bombers, 1000's of objects that make up targets, ships etc..

I'd much rather have the potential for something, that something that is being worked on, than a game that runs well that is maxed out with absolutely nothing to do. But that's just me.

[philip.ed]

I should have added, Bliss, that I'm a 100% offliner and that's what my views are based on.

I agree with you completely about potential. But then we haven't considered the plans for RoD: a channel map, updated water effects and physics which highlight the engine isn't completely at it's full potential. It is still being tweaked. I think the issue with RoF is that the game current has a lot of interest, and drastic engine changes can upset this (as I think we may be seeing with CloD).

[Specht]

(...) Around 50 players is all you can have online (...)

I've played on a server of 74 people and did not experience frame rate loss nor internet lag/warping.

Didn't even bother reading the rest.

[JG52Krupi]

I should have added, Bliss, that I'm a 100% offliner and that's what my views are based on.

That explains a lot :D

The single player of ROF is great compared to the online, the AI was bad for a while though.

[SiThSpAwN]

For those wanting ROF:CloD, I give you War Thunder: World of Planes. (except that you can earn a lot of planes with XP and dont have to buy them all) ;)

[Specht]

Don't get me wrong, I love ROF, I play it everyday, but I don't want Cliffs of Dover to be like ROF, I just want it to be what it was promised to us, what we all expected for all those years waiting for its release...

[ATAG_Bliss]

I've played on a server of 74 people and did not experience frame rate loss nor internet lag/warping.

Didn't even bother reading the rest.

I call BS. As someone who ran a server for ROF with the absolute best hardware available. I watched this problem all the time. I was a beta tester as well constantly preaching about it.

And considering there's only 2 servers in all of ROF (2 servers that never get any players) that have their player limit set over 75. That should give you hint, or maybe some insight as to I know what I'm talking about.

Here's the master browser issue thread. Note the server hosters stating the amount of players before things go to crap: http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=353&t=24508

Some days it's less than 30 players and master browser quits which inturn kills the server. I guess the people running servers know less than you? Riiight.

[SiThSpAwN]

Don't get me wrong, I love ROF, I play it everyday, but I don't want Cliffs of Dover to be like ROF, I just want it to be what it was promised to us, what we all expected for all those years waiting for its release...

Well then I dont get why people bring other sims into this forum. I like flying RoF, although I am not a big WWI sim fan, I love Falcon BMS, I love DCS and all its bits and pieces, I love what I have right now in IL2 (and love the thought of more to come). I have all these installed on my machine, they all have short comings, they all have things I dont really care for, but I am glad I have them, in whatever form I can get them.

That doesnt excuse the mess the IL2 is currently, but until an announcement comes that they stopped working on it, I am waiting patiently for the next patch.

[Specht]

I call BS. As someone who ran a server for ROF with the absolute best hardware available. I watched this problem all the time. I was a beta tester as well constantly preaching about it.

And considering there's only 2 servers in all of ROF (2 servers that never get any players) that have their player limit set over 75. That should give you hint, or maybe some insight as to I know what I'm talking about.

Here's the master browser issue thread. Note the server hosters stating the amount of players before things go to crap: http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=353&t=24508

Some days it's less than 30 players and master browser quits which inturn kills the server. I guess the people running servers know less than you? Riiight.

It's not about knowing how servers work, it's about witnessing a fact, and it was a fact that the server was full for hours on a Sunday and I did not experience any problems at all.

[ATAG_Bliss]

And what server was it? I just logged into the game and the only 2 that even have a high enough player limit is O people or J99, both servers that I've hardly ever seen more than 10 players on. I'm thinking you witnessed 24 instead.

But by all means, next time it happens, please post up a screen shot. I can't wait.

[Specht]

And what server was it? I just logged into the game and the only 2 that even have a high enough player limit is O people or J99, both servers that I've hardly ever seen more than 10 players on. I'm thinking you witnessed 24 instead.

But by all means, next time it happens, please post up a screen shot. I can't wait.

Syndicate server, on Sundays it runs more historically accurate missions which attracts a higher number of players.

Oh yeah, great time to look at the server, just wait a few hours, Syndicate gets around 40-50 players at prime time UK, I usually get back from work and play with 40+ players for a couple of hours before the europeans start going to bed, and yes, I will take a screenshot next time, might even try to ask the Syndicate guys for some server stats of the day that I saw it full.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Syndicate server, on Sundays it runs more historically accurate missions which attracts a higher number of players.

Oh yeah, great time to look at the server, just wait a few hours, Syndicate gets around 40-50 players at prime time UK, I usually get back from work and play with 40+ players for a couple of hours before the europeans start going to bed, and yes, I will take a screenshot next time, might even try to ask the Syndicate guys for some server stats of the day that I saw it full.

So there was 74 players in a server that has a player limit of 70? Alrighty then, I see it's quite pointless talking to you.

Edit: I like how you're now calling me names on another forum. I find it bad enough to resort to insults, but it's much lesser of a person to try to hide somewhere else to do it. I even gave you a thread on their official forums to try and show you that the problems exist. If there was 74 players on a server. A.) that server would have to change their server player limit. From a problem solving point of view, the only reason you would ever change the limit is because you made that much lesser of a mission to be able to handle it in ROF. Again, working around the real problem - which as others in this thread (players) seem to know about. Just not you.

[Specht]

Yes, I called you an ignorant on the other forum, for you are ignoring facts presented to you.

No, I did not hide it anywhere, it's on an open forum that you and anyone else has access to.

[ATAG_Bliss]

So you come into a forum stating a server that has a player limit set of 70 ran perfectly with 74 players. 1st of all that is impossible.

Secondly, the reason hosters set limits in the 1st place is because of the FACTS I already stated. Words can't describe your stupidity. Thanks for sharing.

[kristorf]

Hmmm, not seen a screenshot for the last four pages, interesting innit...........(more like the usual crock..)

[SiThSpAwN]

So you come into a forum stating a server that has a player limit set of 70 ran perfectly with 74 players. 1st of all that is impossible.

Secondly, the reason hosters set limits in the 1st place is because of the FACTS I already stated. Words can't describe your stupidity. Thanks for sharing.

That isnt exactly true... what if 4 of those 70 players had dual personalities... pretty sure that makes 74... I think he just pwned you :)

[Specht]

So you come into a forum stating a server that has a player limit set of 70 ran perfectly with 74 players. 1st of all that is impossible.

Secondly, the reason hosters set limits in the 1st place is because of the FACTS I already stated. Words can't describe your stupidity. Thanks for sharing.

And you still insist on being wrong, I don't get why you are so angry just because I said 74 players, just because you are looking at the player limit now doesn't mean it wasn't 74 players before, and you have absolutely no idea for what reason they lowered the limit, what you state is a possibility, but still it's just an assumption you came up with.

And now YOU resort to insults, hypocrite.

[ATAG_Bliss]

And you still insist on being wrong, I don't get why you are so angry just because I said 74 players, just because you are looking at the player limit now doesn't mean it wasn't 74 players before, and you have absolutely no idea for what reason they lowered the limit, what you state is a possibility, but still it's just an assumption you came up with.

And now YOU resort to insults, hypocrite.

How am I upset or wrong? I just look at facts, actually even linking to those facts directly from other people/hosters that experience the problems I cited. This is called evidence. Whether you want to read them all (right in front of your face on the ROF forums) is totally up to you.

Are you new to flight simming or ROF? The issues I speak of are pretty widely known about in the ROF community.

[Taxman]

Hmmm, not seen a screenshot for the last four pages, interesting innit...........(more like the usual crock..)

And still no screenshots after three more posts with more to come with no screen shots:rolleyes:

[ATAG_Bliss]

Hmmm, not seen a screenshot for the last four pages, interesting innit...........(more like the usual crock..)

And still no screenshots after three more posts with more to come with no screen shots:rolleyes:

Sorry gents.

Here's some:

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8467/explosion1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/explosion1.jpg/)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7516/explosion2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/explosion2.jpg/)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1185/explosion3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/explosion3.jpg/)

[Specht]

Was gonna move the discussion to PM's, but apparently his inbox is full, oh well, I'm done with this.

[SYN_Jed]

Just for the record, we run 75 limit (74 human,1 server) on Vintage missions on a Sunday and 71 limit (70 human, 1 server) on weekdays...carry on :P

[kristorf]

http://s6.postimage.org/hwtkv629t/ZD_A_3.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/w39bqed4t/full/)

http://s6.postimage.org/vf0h7gef5/ZD_A_4.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/gj1xzv30d/full/)





http://s6.postimage.org/qcj5co54x/ZD_A_1.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/nifzz82yl/full/)

Click on pic for full size

[Blackdog_kt]

Yes, I called you an ignorant on the other forum, for you are ignoring facts presented to you.

No, I did not hide it anywhere, it's on an open forum that you and anyone else has access to.

Bliss was a member of Syndicate, the squad who runs that server.

In other words i suspect he knows what he's talking about, if not from direct personal experience, then from what the guys who managed the server and designed the missions would communicate to the squad :-P

I would also like to say, guys please be calm and don't bash each other, especially when you are being off-topic :grin:

Let's get back to the screenshots ;)

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Yep Jed, I can personally vouch for that fact, and here is a screenie to prove it. This is a regular occurrence (68 at the time of screen but actually full before)*, I have seen it full or 70+ numerous times, and had no problems personally. Sprecht knows exactly what he is talking about.

http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx259/CaptainKubla/rof2012-04-2219-32-17-71.png

[kristorf]

Gents,
Can we move away from RoF and CLoD servers on a SCREENSHOT thread, there is a thread/section for multiplayer and to be truthfull its getting boring now.

Many thanks

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Agreed.

[kristorf]

http://s6.postimage.org/889imn8ch/Climb_shoot_3.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/brvgcgb25/full/)

[MB_Avro_UK]

The Blenheim Squadrons suffered very badly during the Battle of Britain. Attacking the invasion barges in daylight was not a good tactic for survival...but the job had to be done.

Three Blenheims attack invasion barges in daylight.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_120815.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_121145.jpg

This will not end well...
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_121300.jpg

The loneliness of the long distance gunner.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_121301.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_121301.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_125150.jpg

Death of a gunner.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_125216.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_125228.jpg

Only one Blenheim returns to the English coast.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_130453.jpg

A Spitfire escorts the damaged Blenheim as she loses altitude.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_131401.jpg

Down at last.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120721_132945.jpg



Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[philip.ed]

Nice photos! But the job of attacking the invasion barges didn't need to be done. An invasion was impossible. Hitler didn't want to pursue it (he was focused on Russia. Why would he invade our 'great Germanic nation'?) and, in any case, the Royal Navy would repel any possible invasion force the Germans could muster. River barges are made for rivers. Was it Jodl who said: 'launching an invasion would be like sending my troops into a mincing machine'.

[MB_Avro_UK]

The debates will always continue:cool:

But nevertheless,these actions did take place.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[pupo162]

...and why do we need 2 screenshot threads?

[kristorf]

...and why do we need 2 screenshot threads?

I asked that one, but I suppose as the original one has been buried in the 'Pilots Lounge', no-one see's it now

[MB_Avro_UK]

Maybe there's room for both threads?

Perhaps this thread is best seen as comprising simple screenshots and the other thread as comprising enhanced screenshots?

Perhaps as a Community, we need to explore and advertise to all the full attributes of this sim?

I am continually amazed at the detail that exists.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[SlipBall]

Well I hope that they leave it here, and not move it to the pilots lounge...screenshots should be front and center at all times, in this the general page. Its good advertising for new recruits.:)

[He111]

Undamaged Walrus all at sea on the land ...

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx23/ArchaicWarrior/WalrusLegless.jpg

.

[MB_Avro_UK]

A great screenshot! The Walrus was an inspired creation...and from the same stable as the Spitfire.

[Continu0]

@ Bliss

With which version of the game did you capture the last screenshots you posted? The ones with the Spit attacking the airfield? Is that the latest Beta?

Thanks!

[pstyle]

...and why do we need 2 screenshot threads?

We don't "need" them. We have them.
enjoy it.

[ATAG_Bliss]

@ Bliss

With which version of the game did you capture the last screenshots you posted? The ones with the Spit attacking the airfield? Is that the latest Beta?

Thanks!

I wish :(

I believe it was the patch before the latest official patch - so quite a while ago.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Dorn Sun :cool:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120720_212824.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120720_214012.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120720_214212.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120720_211207.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120720_211303.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120720_211312.jpg


As I've mentioned earlier, these screenshots are straight from the 'Print' key.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro

[MB_Avro_UK]

The Avro Anson.

Although I'm pleased to have this aircraft in the sim, I would have thought that other twin engined aircraft such as the Hampden and Whitley would have taken priority. Someday soon, I hope:)

Also, RAF aircrew never wore flat-hats (peaked caps) in flight. They ALWAYS wore leather flight helmets. The pilot passenger in this Anson is wearing a flat cap:rolleyes: And he bales out in his cap and without a parachute... What a brave chap!

( Please Note. Developers-this is not a priority bug :cool:).

Anyway, the damage modeling for the Avro Anson is rather good in my opinion.


http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133631.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133715.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133814.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133847.jpg

No 'chute?
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133918.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_134046.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_134108.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_134126.jpg


I hope that this selection is of interest.


Best Regards,
MB_Anson.

[gilmc123]

The Avro Anson.

Although I'm pleased to have this aircraft in the sim, I would have thought that other twin engined aircraft such as the Hampden and Whitley would have taken priority. Someday soon, I hope:)

Also, RAF aircrew never wore flat-hats (peaked caps) in flight. They ALWAYS wore leather flight helmets. The pilot passenger in this Anson is wearing a flat cap:rolleyes: And he bales out in his cap and without a parachute... What a brave chap!

( Please Note. Developers-this is not a priority bug :cool:).

Anyway, the damage modeling for the Avro Anson is rather good in my opinion.


http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133631.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133715.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133814.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133847.jpg

No 'chute?
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_133918.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_134046.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_134108.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_134126.jpg


I hope that this selection is of interest.


Best Regards,
MB_Anson.

Were is the fire damage on the wing?

[GS_Hunger]

Don't know if edited screenshots are allowed in this threat, but:

http://www.abload.de/img/kevundichvsrdv.jpg


http://www.abload.de/img/kevundich2gxo78.jpg


MfG
Hunger

[Ze-Jamz]

Were is the fire damage on the wing?

Good Skills

[senseispcc]

.
I love the Spitfire for his beauty, lines and finesse;
http://postimage.org/image/rbn4h6981/
Click on the picture to enlarge it.
Simple but the most magnificent aircraft ever built.

[senseispcc]

Don't know if edited screenshots are allowed in this threat, but:

http://www.abload.de/img/kevundichvsrdv.jpg


http://www.abload.de/img/kevundich2gxo78.jpg


MfG
Hunger

The first one is so realistic, great!

[MB_Avro_UK]

Hi all,

Talking of Me 110s. How did this pilot park his aircraft??

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_182624.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120725_182650.jpg

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[GS_Hunger]

Another one

http://www.abload.de/img/hurricanes10hjnx.jpg


http://www.abload.de/img/messerschmitt176k55.jpg



! SKINS BY CPTFARREL!

[Friendly_flyer]

http://www.abload.de/img/messerschmitt176k55.jpg


Sorry to contribute to the derail, but I can't help but think a art deco version of this shot with the typical flat colours would be really cool!

[Rodolphe]

...

http://www.campagne609th.be/SOW/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1111#p1111

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[MB_Avro_UK]

Remember vulching? We don't seem to hear much about the subject now.

Anyway, it still happens :cool:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_155337.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_155740.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_155750.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_155830.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_191451.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_191827.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_191846.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_191941.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120727_192201.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Rodolphe]

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Bounce !


Supermarine Spitfire Mk.I, AR219, N° 57 Operational Training Unit, Hawarden, 1941.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/NLV.jpg



http://www.campagne609th.be/SOW/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1016#p1016


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[Rodolphe]

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BELGAE GALLORUM FORTISSIMI


Supermarine Spitfire Mk.IIa, P7297, N° 350 (Belgian) Squadron, RAF Valley, November 1941.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/MNAA.jpg



http://www.campagne609th.be/SOW/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1016#p1016


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[JG52Krupi]

Nice, I partiularly like the engine wind up "key" on the 109 :D

[Rodolphe]

...


Thanks Krupi ! ; )





DIE SCHWARZE JAGD.


Messerschmitt Bf 110 (E), 1. Nachtjagd-Division.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/A2BAL.jpg



http://www.campagne609th.be/SOW/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=561&p=1114#p1114


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[MB_Avro_UK]

And whilst we wait for the PATCH :!:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_175128.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_175418.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_175451.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_175626.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_175749.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_175902.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Continu0]

...


Thanks Krupi ! ; )





DIE SCHWARZE JAGD.


Messerschmitt Bf 110 (E), 1. Nachtjagd-Division.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/A2BAL.jpg



http://www.campagne609th.be/SOW/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=561&p=1114#p1114


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CloD at it´s best! Thank you. It´s not only your skins, it´s also the way you capture the situation!

[hc_wolf]

Originally Posted by Rodolphe

That 110 pick is just fantastic! Well done.

[FS~Phat]

Stay on topic or wear the consequences gents

[MB_Avro_UK]

Beware of danger in the night sky....

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_180249.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_180310.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_180455.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_180350.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_180450-1.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_180509-1.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_180728.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_180759-1.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120729_181419.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Breakfastmachine]

No doubt about it. Probably the finest screenshot maker ever developed.

[Rodolphe]

...



Thanks Guys ;)


Kırmızı Kare.


Hawker Hurricane Mk.I, 42’nci Av Bölüklerine, VIII Tabur, Türk Hava Kuvvetleri, Kütahya.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/TURK.jpg



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[MB_Avro_UK]

I made a forced landing in Dover alongside a hotel. This was known as The Curchill Hotel and I stayed there a couple of years ago.

But I don't remember The Swan pub;) which can be seen next to my parked Hurri.

Need to land as soon as possible...

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120806_172626.jpg

There's a hotel in this row! Called The Churchill Hotel!

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120806_172751.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120806_172812.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120806_172834.jpg



But I don't remember this pub, The Swan :) I'll unstrap and go for a pint!

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120806_175111.jpg



Here's The Churchill Hotel today.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/dover-marina-hotel-grounds-and-hotel-03-83926.jpg


Bottoms up!
MB_Avro.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Never hurts to have a pint or two :D

[MB_Avro_UK]

The door 'flaps' open and closed when the wings are rocked.

Also notice the Oxygen bottles behind the seat.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120809_112224.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/shot_20120809_112349.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Friendly_flyer]

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/dover-marina-hotel-grounds-and-hotel-03-83926.jpg


Bottoms up!
MB_Avro.

Damn, now I want a lukewarm bitter!

[Meusli]

Damn, now I want a lukewarm bitter!

Luke warm Ale, not bitter. Tsk Tsk. ;)

[Rodolphe]

...


Wespen-Geschwader !


Messerschmitt Bf 109 E-(7/B), S9+RS, 8./ZG 1, Russland, Sommer 1942.



http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/S9RS.jpgWIP



http://www.campagne609th.be/SOW/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1116#p1116


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[E.F.Hartmann]

Vraiement superbe ...........

[Rodolphe]

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Merci ! ; )


Sturzkampfflieger Immelmann !


Junkers Ju 87B-2, T6+AD, Stab III/StG 2, Tyrkovo Russland, September 1941.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/T6AD.jpg



http://www.campagne609th.be/SOW/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1117#p1117
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[E.F.Hartmann]

Mais ca ne serait pas le stuka de Hans Hulrich Rudel excellent travail .

[Rodolphe]

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Mais ca ne serait pas le stuka de Hans Hulrich Rudel excellent travail .



Merci E.F.H.

Le Ju 87 "T6+AD" représente l'appareil du Oberleutnant Ernst-Siegfried Steen, Kommandeur du III. Gruppe de Aout à Septembre 41.


Pour la petite histoire;

Le 23 September 1941, au retour d'une mission sur la base navale soviétique de Kronstadt, Steen effectua un Fliegerdenkmal avec son appareil
et emprunta pour sa dernière et funeste mission, un Stuka de substitution , celui du Technischer Offizier, un certain Hans Rudel.

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Personenregister/Bilder/SteenES-1.jpg


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[E.F.Hartmann]

Merci pour ces information trés intéressent, c' est toujour bien de connaitre l' histoire du pilote de son apareil .

[Ze-Jamz]

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Merci E.F.H.

Le Ju 87 "T6+AD" représente l'appareil du Oberleutnant Ernst-Siegfried Steen, Kommandeur du III. Gruppe de Aout à Septembre 41.


Pour la petite histoire;

Le 23 September 1941, au retour d'une mission sur la base navale soviétique de Kronstadt, Steen effectua un Fliegerdenkmal avec son appareil
et emprunta pour sa dernière et funeste mission, un Stuka de substitution , celui du Technischer Offizier, un certain Hans Rudel.

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Personenregister/Bilder/SteenES-1.jpg


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Leg-end

[Stirwenn]

Back from a level bombing run over Oye-Plage and regrouping with 2 Wellies.
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/367819ATAGBlenheims.png

[Rodolphe]

...


"Lwowskich Puchaczy"


Boulton Paul Defianta (NF Mk II), EW-K, N3437, 307 Dywizjon Myśliwski Nocny, kwiecień 1941.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/EWK.jpgWIP



http://www.campagne609th.be/SOW/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1118#p1118

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[Friendly_flyer]

Luke warm Ale, not bitter. Tsk Tsk. ;)

I'm so busted...

I'll go buy me a bottle of Spitfire and write "Keep calm and carry on" 50 times.

[Les]

Cliffs Of Dover might be the best, but my computer isn't. Still, it's not far off being able to smoothly capture the action in real-time. Some nice details in there anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1BmRjsvbVA

[III/JG53_Don]

Nice video, really points out some of the beauties of the game ;-)
I am always wondering how the success of CloD has turned out if it was released in this state last year in april.

[Les]

Thanks Don.

Thought I'd put up some screenshots too, taken from the video.

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5237/001twr.png

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4020/002iy.png

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8301/005vm.png

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6857/012qd.png

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2135/013nr.png

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8271/014lr.png

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7866/019kw.png

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6378/020k.png

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1654/022mn.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/3029/019pg.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img228/1654/022mn.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/1106/022d.png

[Trooper117]

Great pics!

[Freycinet]

Never realised those T's on the ground were actually pegged down with little tent poles... Amazing detail!

Also AMAZING screenies by Rudolphe of his skins! Is the last one of the Polish Defiant also a hidden tribute to Star Wars may I ask? ;-)

[Winger]

Never realised those T's on the ground were actually pegged down with little tent poles... Amazing detail!

Also AMAZING screenies by Rudolphe of his skins! Is the last one of the Polish Defiant also a hidden tribute to Star Wars may I ask? ;-)

and they break your plane if you roll over them:)

Winger

[skouras]

nice:-P

[MB_Avro_UK]

I often found nuggets of detail in il2 1946, but Cliffs of Dover has gone a big step further.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Phaleron]

Just wanted to drop a couple of screens in here, vanilla skins, just got the game running on my rig and it's fantastic. :grin: Great shots you guys have taken.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8421/7804517474_c20678860e_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7268/7804517182_c4001713d0_b.jpg

[zapatista]

and they break your plane if you roll over them:)

Winger

shouldnt it be the other way around ? eg, plane breaks pegs :)

MG needs to adjust the peg DM it seems, might just be a small numerical value that has to be changed for that object.

[IvanK]

shouldnt it be the other way around ? eg, plane breaks pegs :)

MG needs to adjust the peg DM it seems, might just be a small numerical value that has to be changed for that object.

Yep.... Its the return of an earlier IL2 Classic bug where the pegged out panel markers destroyed aeroplanes. It was corrected in IL2 Classic.

[MB_Avro_UK]

From the Full Mission Builder.

German Occupied London 1940. British soldiers cunningly employ buses as a secret weapon...

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00045.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00043.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00042.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00041.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00040.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00037.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00035.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00031.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00024.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-18_00023.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[skouras]

woooohoooo nice photos buddy:grin:

[He111]

WHOs deleting posts and why?

Defiant Dawn ... again ..

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx23/ArchaicWarrior/DefiantMorn3.jpg

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[larry69]

hi MB Avro UK!

nice pics!:grin:

how do you put the soldiers in the vehicles???

my cars and things are all empty. :(

thanks for helping

larry69

[Flanker35M]

S!

Larry, check conf.ini and set SpawnHumans=0 to 1.

[larry69]

..thank`s Flanker,

hmmm.....i have done it. but there`s no humans:(
did i somthing wrong??

[Flanker35M]

S!

Make sure BOTH conf.ini files are the same, in Documents and in Steam. I just copied the one from Documents to the directory under Steam. This setting should pop the humans, but no idea why it is not working for you.

[jamesdietz]

OOOOPS!
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/Screenshots/2012-08-17_00014.jpg

[von Brühl]

Where did the old screenshot thread go, can this be merged into it to give us one place to look for stuff?

[larry69]

...ah, i got it!:grin: thanks Flanker;)

[larry69]

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[larry69]

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[MB_Avro_UK]

Good ones Larry!

As a result of Furber in another thread suggesting that the setting 'Textures to Original' should be used, I did this and found a big improvement in graphics.

Here are some of the results from the same scene. (Unfortunately, the Queen set fire to the Palace kitchen whilst making crumpets...:cool:).

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00002.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00003.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00004.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00005.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00006.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00007.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00008.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00012.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00014.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00015.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00016.jpg

Kitchen Fire!!!

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00024.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00028.jpg


Parliament Square and Big Ben.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00019.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-20_00021.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[kristorf]

I have to admit that when I used to ride up the Mall on the way to Horse Guards I failed to see the grass, maybe they started to cut it after WWII ;)

[ATAG_Dutch]

I have to admit that when I used to ride up the Mall on the way to Horse Guards I failed to see the grass, maybe they started to cut it after WWII ;)

Yup. One of the first things I noticed after game release, was the way London looked like some post apocalyptic sci-fi scenario when I got up close.

I half expected Charlton Heston to appear with a large armed gorilla in pursuit.;)

[MB_Avro_UK]

There is a British 'Hercules' lawn mower in the 'Objects List' which I may use to deal with this long grass.

But to be fair, there is also a German 'Wassersteinflug' lawn mower in the list.

I have conducted some 'field' tests and it seem that the British lawn mower has tighter cornering but the German version is slightly faster at grass roots level and it doesn't cut-out over the dips.

I shall keep you all informed....


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[kristorf]

the German version is slightly faster at grass roots level and it doesn't cut-out over the dips.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

See, over bleedin modeled again, its a Luft conspiracy

[larry69]

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[MB_Avro_UK]

Is the Observer trying to jump through the window of the Dornier???

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-09_00010.jpg

Good interior detail.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00005.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00010.jpg

Sound Locators.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00014.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00032.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00033.jpg

Pilot hit the silk..

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00034.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00035.jpg

Dead Spitfire Pilot.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00043.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00045.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00051.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00053.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00067.jpg

This is the end...

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00070.jpg



Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Boandlgramer]

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-22_00070.jpg
MB_Avro.

Some amazing pictures you have posted , Avro
Thank you.

Just a short comment about the last picture: First I thought it is from EAW , no kidding :-)

[MB_Avro_UK]

Some amazing pictures you have posted , Avro
Thank you.

Just a short comment about the last picture: First I thought it is from EAW , no kidding :-)

Many thanks:)

A compliment indeed to European Air war. Wasn't it released in about 1998??

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[JG52Krupi]

Nice shots, shows how the fire spreads.

I recall when I first saw the fire spreading along the wing of a 109, unfortunately it was my own wing... :|

http://s5.postimage.org/7d0i5eotz/shot_20110807_231530.png (http://postimage.org/image/pskz2t2yb/full/)

http://s5.postimage.org/ryf9xb6ev/shot_20110807_231532.png (http://postimage.org/image/9iuszwsab/full/)

http://s5.postimage.org/fl2fqegqf/shot_20110807_231543.png (http://postimage.org/image/l98qhal2r/full/)

http://s5.postimage.org/4mvrlyhiv/shot_20110807_231548.png (http://postimage.org/image/ek6sf0p4j/full/)

Luckily I dived and blew it out.

http://s5.postimage.org/z5lk6x6pj/shot_20110807_231834.png (http://postimage.org/image/7i8ustlir/full/)

Of course the spit behind wasn't about to let that stop him...

http://s5.postimage.org/gskywcw8n/shot_20110807_231843.png (http://postimage.org/image/rfes1s4dv/full/)

The second after taking that shot my pilot was killed...

Some more...

http://s5.postimage.org/vyb9jwwxj/shot_20111105_153855.png (http://postimage.org/image/jjohjl5f7/full/)

http://s5.postimage.org/t2y6d1sxj/shot_20111105_153819.png (http://postimage.org/image/sdfe0osdv/full/)

http://s5.postimage.org/yuyak72rb/shot_20111105_161004.png (http://postimage.org/image/5fsmb6y7n/full/)

[Continu0]

Mavro_UK: First shot of your last set: Where is the cable-wire of the Dornier going? Is it still hangig on the other part?

Would be awesome!

[Rodolphe]

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Der Verschnupfte Rabe !


Messerschmitt Bf 109 E, Gelbe 8, 6.Staffel JG 51 Mölders, 1939/40.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/6Staffel.jpgWIP


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[MB_Avro_UK]

Mavro_UK: First shot of your last set: Where is the cable-wire of the Dornier going? Is it still hangig on the other part?

Would be awesome!
__________________



Sorry, I can't remember....it was over 70 years ago and my memory's not so good now :cool:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Boandlgramer]

Many thanks:)

A compliment indeed to European Air war

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Absolutely true.
Brings back my memories about these days.
Started my " combatpilot-career" :-) with "Airwar", went over to " CFS1", then "Fighter Squadron " and " EAW" , had a short time with CFS2 and then the king of the kings showed up: " IL2 ".
Still my favorite flightsimulator, because my Computer can´t handle CoD with all the beauty. Lack of power.

Best regards
Boandl

[Rodolphe]

...


"Gott strafe England"


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/6Staffel2.jpg

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[E.F.Hartmann]

Superbe travail comme toujour .:-P

[Les]

...


"Sorry old chap, what's that you were saying...?"


http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4690/40259660.jpg



:grin:

Skin by 'Shado'.

[Rodolphe]

...

Merci EFH !



Löwengeschwader !


Heinkel He-111H-(6), 1H+GP, 6./KG 26, Grosseto Toskana, December 1942.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/1HGP.jpgWIP


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[SA_Chaney_475th]

Guys sorry but I couldn't find where to start my own thread. I just bought COD today but I'm clueless as to how to download the patches or did they already come with my download. Also when I tried to fly a plane, I had no control of the stick like the game didn't recognize it. This looks like it can be fun but then again it looks very difficult to get up and running without a manual. Please help.

[JG52Krupi]

Welcome.

The thread below contains the latest beta patch, I recommend you download it.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33610

[Slipstream2012]

Beautiful screens there guys,

Damn I almost thought that HE-111 was a real photo.

Just shows how much potential this simulation has.

Regards

[Rodolphe]

...

Thanks Slipstream !



Schneesturm !


Heinkel He-111H-(16),1G+HK, KG 27, Russland, 1943.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Schnee.jpgWIP


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[engadin]

Glorious pics, Rodolphe! The gleaming plexiglass in the wintered 111 gives a vital and definitive touch of reality to a rather flat, colours and shades wise [inherent to shots in cloudy days] image.

It looks like you got some framing twitch ;) from your experience as an amateur or pro photographer perhaps?

Love the 109s' panoramic framing BTW.

AA_Engadin

[Rodolphe]

...


;) Engadin !



"Weisung Nr.21 : Fall Barbarossa".


Messerchmitt Bf 109E-4/B, W.Nr. 3605, 8./JG 77, Sowjetrussland, Juli 1941.



http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/5R.jpg


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[larry69]

The Black Knights

[larry69]

..

[SA_Chaney_475th]

Welcome.

The thread below contains the latest beta patch, I recommend you download it.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33610

I don't have the slightest idea how to load this stuff. i am a complete noob with this game and starting not to like it.

[Jaws2002]

Hey 1c, could we please get some collor back in this grey game. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Jaws_18/Screenshot314321-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Jaws_18/Screenshot134464.jpg

[JG52Krupi]

I don't have the slightest idea how to load this stuff. i am a complete noob with this game and starting not to like it.

Hi Chaney, I have sent you a PM.

[senseispcc]

.
A victory, I think I see the dead pilot!
http://postimage.org/image/trh9ilyth/

:cool:

[Rodolphe]

...


" With Speed I Strike "


Bristol Blenheim Mk I, "V" for Victory K7040, N°114 (Hong Kong) Squadron, Wyton Huntingdonshire 1937.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/114V.jpg


...

[MB_Avro_UK]

Sunrise....somewhere in France.


http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00001.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00002.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00003.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00004.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00005.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00008.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00009.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00011.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00014.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00015.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00016.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00019.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00021.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00022.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00023.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00027.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00031.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00032.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00033.jpg




To be continued....


Best Regards,
MB_Avro

[jamesdietz]

Although half the stuff still doesn't work properly ,CloD really is a adictive game due to its immersion,as these last screenshots prove.May I ask if these are from any particular mission or campaign or did you set them up in FMB?

[MB_Avro_UK]

It varies. In the example above, I've used a stock mission. But the possibilities are almost endless when you use the Full Mission Builder.

I like to experiment with different camera positions and time of day.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Rodolphe]

...


" A Moment of Glory "


Boulton Paul Defiants I, N°264 Squadron, Biggin Hill December 1940.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/264.jpg


...

[MB_Avro_UK]

Thanks,Rodolphe. The Defiant picture is now my Desktop :)

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Rodolphe]

...

;)

...

[skouras]

Sunrise....somewhere in France.


http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00001.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00002.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00003.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00004.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00005.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00008.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00009.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00011.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00014.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00015.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00016.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00019.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00021.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00022.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00023.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00027.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00031.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00032.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00033.jpg




To be continued....


Best Regards,
MB_Avro

now these screens is something you want to look again and again and again
imagine if they decide to put an Antiallising and perhaps an HDR in the game:-P
thanks buddy for the screens
the best detail that i ever seen in a sim

[MB_Avro_UK]

(Continued from Previous Screenshots).

Sunrise...somewhere in France.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00118.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00119.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00043.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00044.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00045.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00047.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00048.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00049.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00051.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00052.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00059.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00063.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00065.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00067.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00068.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00074.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00075.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00125.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-27_00130.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[kristorf]

http://s6.postimage.org/tg0vcvytd/XR_D_2.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/wzmt2p1j1/full/)

http://s6.postimage.org/adhhpynsx/XR_D_4.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/88x4ovm65/full/)

http://s6.postimage.org/ju2piui9t/XR_D_1.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/ra1z4n5z1/full/)

http://s6.postimage.org/3lr2n3ytd/XR_D_3.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/hs6tic9od/full/)

Click image for full size

[ATAG_Doc]

Amazing shots everyone!

[kristorf]

http://s6.postimage.org/8r1gw7qip/XR_D_8.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/syewoinzx/full/)

[larry69]

That`s why i love "cliffs of dover" ! part I

[larry69]

That`s why i love "Cliffs of Dover" ! Part II

[larry69]

Sunday Afternoon at Gravesend Airfield, August 1940

[Jaws2002]

Just an older shot. I miss the time when this game had color.:(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Jaws_18/Screenshot23281.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Jaws_18/shot_20120418_182437.jpg

[Les]

Jaws, did you see this thread from a while back?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=32255

I've attached some settings below that will make things a bit more colourful.

Here are some screenshots made using those and other settings (the first one is default), no effects added afterwards.

I might update the thread above with some more examples later on.


http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8721/b004960x600.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/1091/b009960x600.png

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1091/b009960x600.png

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8096/b006960x600.png

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6246/b008960x600.png

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3446/006960x600.png

[Jaws2002]

Those are some cool sunsets. :-P
I tried that a few months ago. It worked ok, but you end up with the redish tint over everything, all the time. It's great for certain things as long as you don't change the time too much.
The beauty of the early lighting engine in CLOD is that the color changing was very natural. I really don't understand why they messed that up, as it didn't affect the performance much. :(

The thing is, I still have an older instal on a back up drive and I go back to it from time to time. When I do that, I end up pi$$ed and come here and post screenshots.:lol:


I still hope they will bring back those natural sunset and sunrise colors, without the need for filters.

Anyway, thank you Les for your tweaks. I think I'll go play with them a bit.:)

[Les]

No worries. It is possible to reduce the red in those last settings I posted, but as you say, there's no way to improve one time of day without effecting the others.

Having said that, here are some more settings that do solve the colour problems altogether. :grin:

[Rodolphe]

...


" Night Owls "


Bristol Beaufighter Mk. IF, " Bambi " RO-B V8324, N°29 Squadron West Malling Summer 1942.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/ROB.jpg


...

[jamesdietz]

Lost & Found dept:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/2012-08-31_00003.jpg

[MB_Avro_UK]

:grin:

[Continu0]

Don´t drink and fly....

[MB_Avro_UK]

Central London. The Blackout...

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-09-01_00035.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-09-01_00036.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-09-01_00037.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-09-01_00039.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-09-01_00041.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-09-01_00042.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-09-01_00043.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-09-01_00044.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Rodolphe]

...


" Beyond Courage "


Supermarine Walrus, X9498, N° 284 Squadron, Mediterranean, summer 1943.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/X9498.jpg


...

[JG26_EZ]

A little bit of fun

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/JG26_EZ/ClODskins/Raceday_Gulf.jpg

[larry69]

Bristol Blenheim Mk IV 110 Sqn. Sept.1940

[zapatista]

some pretty amazing screenshots and video's in this thread, good to see what the sim can do (for those on very high end pc's), and the potential of what the sim can become (soon we hope) is very evident, it can become all we hoped for in the lead-up years and then some more :)

keep plodding away luthier and Co, :)

[zapatista]

Lost & Found dept:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/2012-08-31_00003.jpg

does the bottle roll around during flight ?

i wouldnt put it past them to do so :) i vaguely remember there was a pen lying on a navigator desk in one of the 1946 planes, and it would roll around during flight


and what happens if you invert the plane ? broken bottle or smashed windows ?

maybe a bit much to hope for the last bit

[zapatista]

Just an older shot. I miss the time when this game had color.:(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/<FA>Jaws/Screenshot23281.jpg


has anybody here noticed yet if the moon phases change with the day/week/month as they should ?

[jamesdietz]

Jaws, did you see this thread from a while back?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=32255

I've attached some settings below that will make things a bit more colourful.

Here are some screenshots made using those and other settings (the first one is default), no effects added afterwards.

I might update the thread above with some more examples later on.


http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8721/b004960x600.png

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1091/b009960x600.png




http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8096/b006960x600.png

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6246/b008960x600.png

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3446/006960x600.png

Have downloaded your attachment but not sure how to install it after opening it.Where do I find the settings to change toyour settings?

[E.F.Hartmann]

...


" Night Owls "


Bristol Beaufighter Mk. IF, " Bambi " RO-B V8324, N°29 Squadron West Malling Summer 1942.


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/ROB.jpg


...



Wouaaaa rodolphe c' est vraiement magnifique belles réalisation .;)

[Continu0]

has anybody here noticed yet if the moon phases change with the day/week/month as they should ?

My guess: No. Sunrise/Set-Times are wrong too...

PS: Congratulations Rodolphe!

[Mysticpuma]

http://s6.postimage.org/8r1gw7qip/XR_D_8.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/syewoinzx/full/)


Actually Kris I saw this image and thought it was a great portrayal of the current state of the game ;)

[kristorf]

Actually Kris I saw this image and thought it was a great portrayal of the current state of the game ;)

;) :rolleyes: :grin:

[Les]

Have downloaded your attachment but not sure how to install it after opening it.Where do I find the settings to change toyour settings?

There are several attachments I've posted, the first one I've attached to this post (FXAA_PPI_Rev_37.zip) is the main one, which contains the files to enable the colour changes (and which includes it's own default 'injFX_Settings' settings file). All the other attachments are just other, adjusted, 'injFX_Settings' files.

Unzip the 'FXAA_PPI_Rev_37.zip' folder, then open up the 'DirectX10' folder that's within it and copy/paste all it's contents (injFX_Shaders, dxgi, injFX_Settings, readme, shader.hlsl) into the folder wherever your 'Cliffs Of Dover' exe. is installed (ie. Local Disk (C)/Program Files/Steam/steamapps/common/il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover).

Run the game and press the 'Pause/Break/ScrLk' button (without the 'F Lock' button engaged) to turn the effects on and off and see if they're working.

If they are working, return to desktop via the 'Windows' button (you don't have to exit the game) and either open up the 'injFX_Settings' 'H' folder that you just installed and start adjusting settings, or (easier) replace the 'injFX_Settings' 'H' folder altogether with another one that's already been adjusted. Then just return to the game to see it's effects.

If you do want to adjust settings yourself, there's a bit more to it I could explain (it's not that obvious what needs adjusting or by how much), but I'll leave it at that for now.

I've attached my own preferred colour settings, some much more colourful settings, and some old-fashioned black and white settings too. Again, to use those attachments, just unzip them and copy the 'injFX_Settings' file within them to wherever your 'Cliffs Of Dover' exe. is installed and let it overwrite the default or other 'injFX_Settings' file that's there.

This thread has more examples of different settings - http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=32255

[Grey]

Lost & Found dept:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/2012-08-31_00003.jpg

:grin: Maybe it's a "Chianti squadron"?

[jamesdietz]

Somtimes all it takes is one or two cannon shells in the right place:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/2012-08-31_00001.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/2012-08-31_00002.jpg

[JG52Krupi]

I still have yet to see that damage with my own eyes :D

Still think my best moment was a head to head with a hurri landing, I shot his left wing off but he was fast and low enough that he touched the ground before spinning and just slid to a stop in the middle of lympne.. Jammy swine!

[Rodolphe]

...


Thanks Mates !





Jagdgruppe 77

Messerschmitt Bf109 E-1, Hptm. Hannes Trautloft, 2 Staffel I. JG 77, Juliusburg, September 1939 .

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Hannes.jpgWIP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVNVWnxtFSs

...

[Continu0]

The best about the Video: All these Ground-Objects can be found in CloD!

[Rodolphe]

...

Thanks Continu0 ! ;)

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/BigHills.jpg

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Big.jpg

...

[larry69]

Stern attack, Hurricanes of the 73 Sqn

[Rodolphe]

...


Rabbatz

Messerschmitt Bf109 E-1, Rote 1, Oblt August-Willhem Schumann, 5./JG 52, Mannheim-Sandhofen, November 1939 .

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/R1.jpgWIP


...

[Bob_Marley]

Nice screenshots but i wouldnt go as far as too say CLOD is the best in its current state. :confused:

[JG52Krupi]

No, but these pics do...

Thanks Don.

Thought I'd put up some screenshots too, taken from the video.

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5237/001twr.png

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4020/002iy.png

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8301/005vm.png

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6857/012qd.png

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2135/013nr.png

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8271/014lr.png

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7866/019kw.png

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6378/020k.png

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1654/022mn.png

[MB_Avro_UK]

Scramble!

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00036.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00041.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00042.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00044.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00047.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00048.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00049.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00050.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00052.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00055.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00057.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00058.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00060.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00063.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00064.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00065.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00067.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00068.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00069.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00070.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00075.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac58/MB_Avro_UK/2012-08-28_00080.jpg


Best Regards,
MB_Avro

[lensman1945]

WOW!

..the DM in all it's glory

brilliant pics Avro:grin:

[Flanker35M]

S!

And the Spit pilots would say: It is just a fleshwound! Come back you cowards! :D Great shots all.

[Marmusman]

Introducing the Barbie Adventure Medium Bomber....

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9207/barbie4.jpg

[Rodolphe]

...


Danzig

Messerschmitt Bf109 E-3, Grün 3, Oblt Wilfried Pufahl, Stab II./JG 53, Trier-Euren, Mai 1940 .

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/G3xx.jpgWIP


...

[JG52Krupi]

Damage model = AWESOME

http://s5.postimage.org/l9hvr6zef/shot_20120108_232656.png (http://postimage.org/image/60rydf5pv/full/)


http://s5.postimage.org/gp0aq052v/shot_20120108_232657.png (http://postimage.org/image/3xm4jhvar/full/)

http://s5.postimage.org/k9w6989mf/shot_20120108_232657_653.png (http://postimage.org/image/o69i57ulv/full/)


http://s5.postimage.org/8ytikv2rb/shot_20120108_232713.png (http://postimage.org/image/j8vxk3smr/full/)

Sorry Aeros! :P (These are from last year BTW)
http://s5.postimage.org/53q4iajlj/shot_20120108_232716.png (http://postimage.org/image/53q4iajlf/full/)


http://s5.postimage.org/8bulvc5vb/shot_20120108_232718.png (http://postimage.org/image/nxbxfahtf/full/)

[banned]

Skoshi Tiger might be a turncoat. That's terrible. Sand Gropers don't do that.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Those crazy Luftwaffe crews :cool:

.....and with bomb-doors open!

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Best Regards,
MB_Avro

[Bob_Marley]

Wow awsome screenshots CLOD is the best. ;)

[il_corleone]

Yes it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2wVAXMXtyE&feature=youtu.be

[Rodolphe]

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Schwarzer Teufel

Messerschmitt Bf110, unbekannte Einheit.

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/AP.jpgWIP


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[Rodolphe]

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Dernière patrouille.

Fiat CR42, R237, 17 Blanc, Cocotte Rouge, 4e Escadrille / IIe Groupe / 2e Régiment, Aéronautique Militaire Belge, Nivelles, début Mai 1940.

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/17a.jpgWIP


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[esmiol]

nice screen my dear rodolphe

Tally ho! ;)

[Rodolphe]

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:grin: Hawk!

The White Rose, The Master Typhoon Squadron !

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[esmiol]

yes it's me! :D :D :D