It realy works!!!!

[Attila]

[quote
Hey Guys, Got 2 things worked like a charm, no stutters , no slide show for ati an nvidea users . Win7 USERS , Go into control panel to Programs an Features Go into Microsoft. NET Framework 4 Client Profile. double click on it , An repair it , After repair it will ask restart do it . Then go to C PROGRAM FILES X86 , Then Steam Then Steamapps, Then common . il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover Then redist Then go into DirectX Folder , Scroll down til you see When you see DXSETUP Double click on it , an run it!! For they guys that did this , THE CHEERING SECTION IS OUT, All of us had the same results. NO SLIDE SHOW NOT A STUTTER. Even with 3 spits an 7 or 8 109s at 1000 feet above the the 3 base close together north of the French point ( our normal slide show, Repeated 3 times , Stayed hard on 60 fps an high 75 my vsync on all setting high an original , For the first time since i bought this game , it was amazing!!! If this helps tell others ( for me an several others who did this ) All i can say is WOW !!! Note i did not say it fixed trees let me know?
[/quote]

I tried it today and it realy works! All settings on max, grass, shadows, trees SSAO and FSAA ON! Realy smooth gameplay! Tell all your friends! It´s realy WOW!:-)

[Tavingon]

Nice work who told u?

[Flanker35M]

S!

Has been mentioned here in Troubleshooting. But good to bring it up again for those who have not seen it or do not use SEARCH :)

[JTDawg]

Nice work who told u?

I posted that about 4 or 5 days ago !! on several forums ,an it still works ,i have gone down in fps but no slide shows an no power point sessions ,I probably didn't post it in the right place here SALUTE Dawg

[322Sqn_Bbird]

Wohoo!!! Hope this will work for my rig too :)

[trademe900]

[quote
Hey Guys, Got 2 things worked like a charm, no stutters , no slide show for ati an nvidea users . Win7 USERS , Go into control panel to Programs an Features Go into Microsoft. NET Framework 4 Client Profile. double click on it , An repair it , After repair it will ask restart do it . Then go to C PROGRAM FILES X86 , Then Steam Then Steamapps, Then common . il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover Then redist Then go into DirectX Folder , Scroll down til you see When you see DXSETUP Double click on it , an run it!! For they guys that did this , THE CHEERING SECTION IS OUT, All of us had the same results. NO SLIDE SHOW NOT A STUTTER. Even with 3 spits an 7 or 8 109s at 1000 feet above the the 3 base close together north of the French point ( our normal slide show, Repeated 3 times , Stayed hard on 60 fps an high 75 my vsync on all setting high an original , For the first time since i bought this game , it was amazing!!! If this helps tell others ( for me an several others who did this ) All i can say is WOW !!! Note i did not say it fixed trees let me know?


[/QUOTE]

Dude this is bloody awesome! That did so much for me, wicked!! Thank you, and thanks to whoever first found this!

I think people are kind of sick and hopeless of looking at troubleshooting... I suggest this is kept here so people can find this- the many people who have already 'given up' a long time ago on some quick fix.

[Allons!]

Did it but no gain, my game was probably all working as it should and i am contented with it. Have to try it online otherwise, offline no big results.

Greetz, Allons!

[ATAG_Snapper]

It sure smoothed things out for me, stutter-wise. Thanks, JTDawg!

This little "repair fixit" should be stickied -- it's helped a lot of people. I suppose with all the net- and Directx- based programs and utilities we install and uninstall on our PC's, the odd file here or there is apt to get corrupted or go missing.

[macro]

i had to repair it twice before it actually did anything. secong time trying it asked for a restart afterwards.

smooth game now, thanks JT

[Tavingon]

Gave me a nice iron over the smooth bumps, however dust still kills on take off!:-P

[ATAG_Snapper]

Hey, JT, I know it doesn't fix trees popping up, but have you had any opportunity to engage human-flown enemy bombers yet? I remember on my PC (pre-"fixit") that this was a showstopper when attacking Bliss and five others in their Ju88 formation. Every time I would go near 'em, my frame rate would instantly drop from the high eighties down to ONE (count 'em: ONE! LOL). It was hard just to stay in the air during this slideshow, but when the enemy formation was past (by a mile or so), the frame rate would quickly go back to normal. I tried re-engaging this human-flown formation three more times; same result each time. Never a problem with AI-flown bomber formations, though. I'm hoping your "fixit" addresses this problem.

[AbortedMan]

I have a feeling this is caused by or is the basis of a steam issue. Everytime I start CloD from the steam menu it attempts an install of "VC redist" (or something like that, I'm not at my computer). I'm guessing the files it installs are an older version associated with the official patch and probably has something to do with .NET Framework and directX. I remember this being an issue with another steam game, TF2 I think, of course TF2 being Valve's golden child a hotfix was applied within the hour.

[JG52Uther]

This might be important for some people, so keep this thread on topic please.

[satchenko]

No diference to me. Micro stutters still there over citys at low alt.
The game works well to me at high alt.

[Force10]

Same here. Frames are good but ground micro stutters are still there after trying this fix.

[Tavingon]

Worth a try for all I think!

[furbs]

No change for me, maybe it works for lower spec configs better than high?

[VO101_Tom]

I tried it today and it realy works!
Same here, thanks for sharing! :cool:

[ATAG_Dutch]

maybe it works for lower spec configs better than high?

Much as I'd like to say that JT's fix works, it didn't for me I'm afraid, and my computer is very mid range these days. I found tonight's session very hesitant on the frame rates when panning with trackIR, and stutters were quite bad, particularly when the voice reports enemy aircraft. Big pauses there.

:(

[Icarus1]

Didn't work for me. Still bad stutters over cities and with damage to aircraft I shoot. Great fps, bad stutters. Over clear blue water very few stutters except with damage.

[JTDawg]

Much as I'd like to say that JT's fix works, it didn't for me I'm afraid, and my computer is very mid range these days. I found tonight's session very hesitant on the frame rates when panning with trackIR, and stutters were quite bad, particularly when the voice reports enemy aircraft. Big pauses there.

:(

Dutch i have radio stuff off anouther hmm!!!

[JTDawg]

Hey, JT, I know it doesn't fix trees popping up, but have you had any opportunity to engage human-flown enemy bombers yet? I remember on my PC (pre-"fixit") that this was a showstopper when attacking Bliss and five others in their Ju88 formation. Every time I would go near 'em, my frame rate would instantly drop from the high eighties down to ONE (count 'em: ONE! LOL). It was hard just to stay in the air during this slideshow, but when the enemy formation was past (by a mile or so), the frame rate would quickly go back to normal. I tried re-engaging this human-flown formation three more times; same result each time. Never a problem with AI-flown bomber formations, though. I'm hoping your "fixit" addresses this problem.

Snapper tonight on atag behind that 20 bomber formation an i think every 109 in game (man they were everywhere ) seen a slow down but playable teens fps . Only came across 2 110s seemed ok, no big differance ,The game is running smooth enough to get accurate shooting in as i hit 1 hard after making pass on a spit, an the second flew right infront of my guns salute

[pencon]

I'm running every option including ssao and vsync and over water not a single gitch , looks great . My rig is pretty average i7 860 with 2.8GZ 16GB ram and a GTX 570. Over land there is a very slight slowdown but no lurches ..Ao I would say yes the trick works great .

[banned]

Worked awesome for me. Was great to have everything on max and fly through explosions without any slow down at all. Really cool. Thanks for your post mate.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Can't really tell if it's working for me.

On ATAG this morning attacking large formations of AI bombers 20+ escorted by 4+ player 109's.
Everyting going smooth and slick until I got within range of the bombers and it turned into a slide show.

(I was attacked during the slide show and got into a spin, fell from 19,000' finally recovering at 1,000'!!! tried everything, conventional recovery no good :( ended up with gear and flaps down and engine off before I stopped the Autorotation! :) then quick engine start and back up to the fight and repeat the whole process! Except before I spun this time I managed to take the wing off a ju-88 :) bit like dogfighting in PowerPoint! )

Could be my ping rate 290ms+ but no joy for me. :(

[Flanker35M]

S!

Skoshi, that was one funny description :D Power point : Battle of the Slide show! :D

[Ze-Jamz]

Skoshi... have a saying in the Army...death by PowerPoint.. quite abt really

I've seen smoother game play by doing this, haven't tested it yet though with big formations

[ChocsAway]

[quote
Hey Guys, Got 2 things worked like a charm, no stutters , no slide show for ati an nvidea users . Win7 USERS , Go into control panel to Programs an Features Go into Microsoft. NET Framework 4 Client Profile. double click on it , An repair it , After repair it will ask restart do it . Then go to C PROGRAM FILES X86 , Then Steam Then Steamapps, Then common . il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover Then redist Then go into DirectX Folder , Scroll down til you see When you see DXSETUP Double click on it , an run it!! For they guys that did this , THE CHEERING SECTION IS OUT, All of us had the same results. NO SLIDE SHOW NOT A STUTTER. Even with 3 spits an 7 or 8 109s at 1000 feet above the the 3 base close together north of the French point ( our normal slide show, Repeated 3 times , Stayed hard on 60 fps an high 75 my vsync on all setting high an original , For the first time since i bought this game , it was amazing!!! If this helps tell others ( for me an several others who did this ) All i can say is WOW !!! Note i did not say it fixed trees let me know?



BEWARE!!!!!



I decided to try the above out of interest (and stupidity) even though I wasn't experiencing stutters or poor frame-rates.

The result:- Halved fps, stutters, slow loading of textures ie a completely borked game.

If you're already running ok my advice is to leave well alone!

[Wolf_Rider]

BEWARE!!!!!



I decided to try the above out of interest (and stupidity) even though I wasn't experiencing stutters or poor frame-rates.

The result:- Halved fps, stutters, slow loading of textures ie a completely borked game.

If you're already running ok my advice is to leave well alone!


What are your system specs though?

[Ze-Jamz]

BEWARE!!!!!



I decided to try the above out of interest (and stupidity) even though I wasn't experiencing stutters or poor frame-rates.

The result:- Halved fps, stutters, slow loading of textures ie a completely borked game.

If you're already running ok my advice is to leave well alone!

That's bad for you but nearly everyone else has seen a improvement

[Aer9o]

[quote
Hey Guys, Got 2 things worked like a charm, no stutters , no slide show for ati an nvidea users . Win7 USERS , Go into control panel to Programs an Features Go into Microsoft. NET Framework 4 Client Profile. double click on it , An repair it , After repair it will ask restart do it . Then go to C PROGRAM FILES X86 , Then Steam Then Steamapps, Then common . il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover Then redist Then go into DirectX Folder , Scroll down til you see When you see DXSETUP Double click on it , an run it!! For they guys that did this , THE CHEERING SECTION IS OUT, All of us had the same results. NO SLIDE SHOW NOT A STUTTER. Even with 3 spits an 7 or 8 109s at 1000 feet above the the 3 base close together north of the French point ( our normal slide show, Repeated 3 times , Stayed hard on 60 fps an high 75 my vsync on all setting high an original , For the first time since i bought this game , it was amazing!!! If this helps tell others ( for me an several others who did this ) All i can say is WOW !!! Note i did not say it fixed trees let me know?


I tried it today and it realy works! All settings on max, grass, shadows, trees SSAO and FSAA ON! Realy smooth gameplay! Tell all your friends! It´s realy WOW!:-)[/QUOTE]

Stop giving people false hopes! I have tried your miracle guide, there is no betterment! Mind you I have a top spec system as well : 3930K @ 4.8GHz and 680 gtx!
Stutter, popping trees, flickering shadows various other anomalies etc.
They will have to fix it by reprogramming. Given what was delivered so far I am only cautiously optimistic about it!

[Steuben]

I tried it today and it realy works! All settings on max, grass, shadows, trees SSAO and FSAA ON! Realy smooth gameplay! Tell all your friends! It´s realy WOW!:-)

Stop giving people false hopes! I have tried your miracle guide, there is no betterment! Mind you I have a top spec system as well : 3930K @ 4.8GHz and 680 gtx!
Stutter, popping trees, flickering shadows various other anomalies etc.
They will have to fix it by reprogramming. Given what was delivered so far I am only cautiously optimistic about it![/QUOTE]

He is not giving people false hopes, because for some it works (like me). He never mentioned it would fix various game bugs like the tree problem!

[lensman1945]

BEWARE!!!!!



I decided to try the above out of interest (and stupidity) even though I wasn't experiencing stutters or poor frame-rates.

The result:- Halved fps, stutters, slow loading of textures ie a completely borked game.

If you're already running ok my advice is to leave well alone!

worth a try tho'..

if it doesn't work just do a system restore from your back-up...;)

[Dano]

Made zero difference for me, as expected.

[kyletiernan]

No difference for me, still stutters

[Wolf_Rider]

but, what is your system specs?

[Gamekeeper]

but, what is your system specs?

All these posts about improvements are useless without system specs and settings.
It is simple to add them to your sig, then a pattern may emerge for what works and what doesn't and why

[Continu0]

smoother but still with low-level-micro-freezes for me.

Good one, worth a try and thank you!

[Anders_And]

hmmmm weird... after the repair, my system never asks for restart of the computer... it just says that its finished with repairing and thats it...
Im using win 7.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Snapper tonight on atag behind that 20 bomber formation an i think every 109 in game (man they were everywhere ) seen a slow down but playable teens fps . Only came across 2 110s seemed ok, no big differance ,The game is running smooth enough to get accurate shooting in as i hit 1 hard after making pass on a spit, an the second flew right infront of my guns salute

OK, sounds better than it was.

Lots of conflicting reports. Your fixit seemed to work well for some, and no difference for others (about 50/50 I would guess). One report of worse performance!

Since it is a dual-repair procedure, my guess it that it benefits those PC's that have had a lot of other programs installed/uninstalled that possibly have disrupted something in the NET and/or Directx settings.

[JTDawg]

hmmmm weird... after the repair, my system never asks for restart of the computer... it just says that its finished with repairing and thats it...
Im using win 7.

Macro had to do it twice to get it to restart. 1 person who was having sound gliches actually had to uninstall reinstall net frame work , an even if it helps 50% its better than 0% also going to do something with a thing we did many months ago an will post my results ,on changing stencil bits stuff back to 32 an 16 instead of the 24 an 8 it's on now , If i remember right that helped some back when we tried it . will post tonight salute

[macro]

yes if it doesnt ask for a restart, restart anyway and do it again, see if it does it.

[beepee]

No diference to me. Micro stutters still there over citys at low alt.
The game works well to me at high alt.yep same here-still cant start hurricane either thought would have been fix for this by now ???

[arthursmedley]

Didn't make any difference for me.

[F16_Neo]

Did get rid of >90% of the stutters for me - roughly estimated - after a quickie on ATAG.
No apparant fps gain though, but that was not expected either.
Many thanks, got to let the guys hear about this! :cool:

[Skoshi Tiger]

Just looking at other factors that could be causing my slde show effect when nearing bombers.

I got on to my router and found that even though my line attenuation is ok (40db) my noise margin is less than 6db (over yesterday I saw it go from 3.4 to 5.4 where is is now) This is extremely extremely poor.

Until I can get my noise marging into an acceptable range I doubt my experience with the fix can't be used as a guide.

It's interesting that the stutters occur when getting within gun range of the bomber flight. I wonder if there is a bubble around player and net traffic increase objects get inside that bubble? Dev's??????

(I've been unplugging phones and swapping the router between phone ports and it doesn't seem to be improving. not sure if the issue is external :( )

Cheers!

Edit: Just had a go on ATAG, Sim ran perfectly with 20 Players in game. Attacked a group of 8 JU88's with out a single stutter. Hmmm, my noise margin was fairly bad (4.8db) and my ping was 270. There was no other player aircraft around during my attack (friend or foe). No other changes to settings or my system.

[Martin77]

Thanks Attila it worked for me :)
The game runs good before this but after doing this explosions or dusk or flying low with grass on are much smoother as before.
The stutters are mostly gone

[BigC208]

I did as advised and started the game. Looked like I left the epilepsy filter. All screwed up. Went out of the game and checked, no epilepsy filter on. Decided to restart the computer. That did the trick. The game is now smooth in single card mode. SLI mode still has a stutter here and there but it's less than before.

[skouras]

no change for me either
but thanks anyway;)

[VO101_NateDog]

Confirmed, that is working for me! Huge fps drops totally disappeared!

[drive-by-pilot]

Confirmed, that is working for me! Huge fps drops totally disappeared!

+1, thanks for good result

[jamesdietz]

Have done a complete search for Microsoft.Net etc.etc& thru a search I've found the folder,but trying to open it ,it says its empty& I'm not sure how to progress...can you give me a clue?

[Allons!]

Have done a complete search for Microsoft.Net etc.etc& thru a search I've found the folder,but trying to open it ,it says its empty& I'm not sure how to progress...can you give me a clue?

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\redist\DotNetFx40_Client

[Bak]

Didn't fix it for me, even did a complete uninstall/reinstall of the .net framework.

Too bad, guess i'll continue to take off at 5FPS :(

[jamesdietz]

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\redist\DotNetFx40_Client
Just the information I needed - will give it a try-thanks!
This seems to have made a bit of a positive difference!Thanks again-every little bit helps!!!!

[JTDawg]

Just the information I needed - will give it a try-thanks!

There were 2 parts to the fix , control panel , then programs an features , scrool down double click on net frame 4 repair it ( do it till it asks for restart ) then go to the redist an into the direct x folder an scrool down to you see DXSETUP AN RERUN IT . Also i had a real bad slow down an had to redo net frame again after about a week ! starting to wonder if ctd is taking little parts of our net frame work out , Wish a smart guy would know if this is possible?

[[URU]AkeR]

Worked great for me!! thx!

[phoenix1963]

It made it worse for me...
I'm beginning to think it might be because of a fairly old cpu.

56RAF_phoenix

Q9550 (if I remember right)
AMD7950 flashed into a 7970
6 GB RAM
2 SSD

[Gourmand]

not works for me...
perhaps it's juste the fault of the game... ;)

[kyletiernan]

but, what is your system specs?

Sorry I have a EVGA GTX 570, AMD Phenom II x6 1055t @ 3.8ghz, 8gb ram, 1 tb HDD

[Mysticpuma]

Mixed results. In fairness I do see less stutters and where I used to see the propeller 'pause' occasionally, I don't get that now.

I do get slow down when there is an explosion but generally it plays smoother.

Mixed results now because every time I complete one of the Single Missions and hit refly, the Launcher crashes and I have to restart the whole game again.

Didn't notice it before this :(

I too though do like the new tracers. Cheers, MP

[Kranak]

Although I haven't played Cliffs for awhile because I don't do beta patches I can say this procedure has made improvements in other games I play, like a popular FP shooter and MMO, as well as web surfing.

[Feathered_IV]

Just gave it a go too. No change for me, still at 27 fps at all combinations of graphics settings from high to low. I5 2500k, 16gb DDR3, 1gb GTS450.

[Whizkid]

Anything similar for us WinXP users? I tried to find a similar thing in the Control Panel but nothing seen.

[Bak]

I just noticed some odd behavior while flying, it seems my CPU keeps underclocking it self constantly, then spiking up again, the values are constantly between 1.6ghz and 4.9ghz, when i disabled power saving and forced it to stay at 4.9ghz constantly i actually had better performance during take off.

This probably only applies to my PC, but it was behavior i have not seen in other games, or in the previous beta patch.

[choctaw111]

I don't have much time lately to completely read through long threads or search the internet so I am asking how this is done for XP32 users.

[SlipBall]

I don't have much time lately to completely read through long threads or search the internet so I am asking how this is done for XP32 users.


I have it on my XP32 the last official release, and it runs fine on that set up, same PC for both installs. Most of my flying is done on my Win 7 though. I would recommend you to strive to upgrade to Win7 64b if that is possible for you.

[Buchon]

Mostly what SlipBall said.

DX9 in the latest Beta patch is working excellent overall, through you´ll face the usual DX9 limitations as low resolution shadows and a lower resolution on textures.

The performance is also more smooth in DX10 than in DX9, guess that is because the use of deferred pipeline rendering in DX10.