Th other 'what do you expect for this Friday?' thread

[bongodriver]

Ok......I expect, BlackSix will make an update of some kind in order to meet the community dictated obligation, it will be on the only pieces of information available to him at the time (it may or may not contain any actual fixes), but as a result of threads like this..........


http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33020 (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33020)


it will inevitably lead to a period of dissatisfaction from some of the members here, and they will excercise their right to freedom of expressing that to the fullest extent, and for some those expressions have already started.

This is an honest oppinion and is not for stiring anything up, and I'd like this thread to be the home for people who aren't able to exprees their honest oppinions in the other thread.

[Ze-Jamz]

Fair one...

I don't expect a lot, possible a quick acknowledgment over the glaring bugs been introduced with a were working on them, maybe a readme..

[furbs]

We will get a readme as B6 said.

I would like at least a hot fix for the Hurri and the awful tree LOD, plus a message from Luthier on what happened between the last patch and this one, some answers about the missing FPS increase, whats happening with the net code.

Oh and im really looking forward to seeing some pics of the sequel. :rolleyes:

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Ok......I expect,
In my expert opinion I predict this Friday..
-will be proceeded by Thursday
-will be followed by Saturday
-whiners will whine if a patch is released
-whiners will whine if a patch is not released

[fox3]

Well im not gunna hold my breath for a CLOD patch but maybe the new channel map will be released for Rise of flight that would be cool. :grin:

[No1 Cheese]

pictures of a/c im not interested in!!!!


Cheese

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Say Cheese

[SiThSpAwN]

pictures of a/c im not interested in!!!!


Cheese

With the heat issues on the East Coast of the US right now I think pictures of a/c would be insensitive...

[pstyle]

Not sure what's worse,
1 Whinging,
2 Whinging about whinging,
3 My uncertainty.

[bongodriver]

Not sure what's worse,
1 Whinging,
2 Whinging about whinging,
3 My uncertainty.

Whingeing about whingeing about whingeing is the worst.

[CaptainDoggles]

whinge

Do you guys pronounce it "WINJ"?

[bongodriver]

yes

[ATAG_Doc]

Prediction:

More "testing is going well" lines at least 2
No readme yet due to no time
No progress on anything else
More pictures of something we'll never see in 2012
Whole lot more BS from BS

[kristorf]

What do I expect, not a great deal (standard Friday 'update'), but always hope to be pleasently suprised

[fox3]

Really hope they fix the flying though trees with this fridays patch. :cool:

[bongodriver]

Really hope they fix the flying though trees with this fridays patch. :cool:

Nobody said a patch would be coming this Friday, it would be nice to have the trees fixed but I'm guessing thats something for after the game works properly.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Whingeing about whingeing about whingeing is the worst.
rotfl

[6BL Bird-Dog]

We may not get any Clod info this week but the best that can be done is to keep testing and giving feed-back to the Devs.
The bottom line is that further sequel content will have to be continued whilst those working on game engine performance crashes and bugs will plod on trying to sort the foundations on which the next sequel will run.
All in all they must be sailing close to the wind trying to reach their targets, if the the game aint fixed then poor sales on the sequel in the west.
As I am sure we all want this series to succeed and go on then we all need bite the bullet and do what we can to help.
The BoB spirit.

[Tavingon]

Flyable Blenhiem mk1

[SQB]

Really hope they fix the flying though trees with this fridays patch. :cool:

Devs are currently arguing that this is "impossible", which is ridiculous! All they need to do is have a zone around the aircraft where trees are of the same density, no matter what the "forest" setting is placed on. Beyond this zone is either nothing (forests set to off) or that green line thing that they currently use for distant forests.

Collision proximity is client side, synchronised through the server (on multiplayer another player's aircraft hitting a tree is most probably milliseconds away from crashing, so the precision doesn't have to be fantastic).

[Insuber]

I expect nothing so I will be happy with anything.

[Lurker_71]

I expect nothing so I will be happy with anything.

So true. Unfortunately, CoD has taught many to keep their expectations low, and for a good reason too.

[Feathered_IV]

Maybe a nice video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEJj7P52yzM&hd=1

[_YoYo_]

For sure, I expect fix for autogen. Till isnt be solved I dont touch CoD and fly in RoF.

Regards.

[SQB]

The problem with war thunder is that it's still the 1946 engine, with enhanced graphics. CloD is an incredible new engine, but with less outstanding graphics and most probably less polish (I'd hope, only Bohemia can compete with 1C for botched releases).

[Feathered_IV]

The problem with war thunder is that it's still the 1946 engine, with enhanced graphics. CloD is an incredible new engine, but with less outstanding graphics and most probably less polish (I'd hope, only Bohemia can compete with 1C for botched releases).

Yeah, I know what you mean. These days after experiencing clod and seeing the sort of gameplay they offer, I think I'd happily choose a slightly less obsessive technical simulation, in exchange for a more visceral flight sim experience.

[Redroach]

Hey, I hear that these threads are endorsed and therefore, by extension, bý MG!
So lets get involved:
I don't think there will be anything tomorrow. I don't think it's B6's fault as he only posts the stuff he gets from the devs. And, considering that the beta patch version just came out, plus judging from previous 'releases', I wouldn't expect a single line for tomorrow - it seems to be just too hard to compile a few lines of actual progress updates (not considering those which say "we're making good/bad/medium progress").
But perhaps those progress threads are just a vehicle to elicit some "pats on the back" from the still-faithfull few :rolleyes:

P.S.: forgot about the missing readme for the currrent patch! Maybe this will be half-ready tomorrow! :)

[senseispcc]

.
Tomorrow or not tomorrow what is the difference we players have waited for many year for COD and many months more for a patch. We cannot wait for a week or a month more?:cool:
Have we any choise or say in it?

[carguy_]

In my expert opinion I predict this Friday..
-will be proceeded by Thursday
-will be followed by Saturday
-whiners will whine if a patch is released
-whiners will whine if a patch is not released
Yeah pretty much spot on.

[Redroach]

Add another option:

Less whiners will whine if a patch is released that actually fixes at least the game-breaking stuff :rolleyes:

[Krt_Bong]

The problem with war thunder is that it's still the 1946 engine, with enhanced graphics. CloD is an incredible new engine, but with less outstanding graphics and most probably less polish (I'd hope, only Bohemia can compete with 1C for botched releases).

I have the beta, it looks nothing like IL-2 and still works better than CloD, and on the subject of that maybe what we should expect is an apology, because even with all it's potential it is not living up to anyone's expectations.

...and it's spelled whining not whigning .

[bongodriver]

Whining and whingeing are 2 different things but are similar.....like screaming and shouting, whining is often just a noise like a constant high pitch tone, whingeing is using speech in a whiny tone.

jet engines whine.....Cod haters whinge.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinge

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whine

[=Kike=]

What I expect for this Friday?...mmm....Hyperloby HSFX 6 servers

For me IL2 Clod it's a beta-simulator, and we're the exponsors and beta-tester...It's that I think from the day that I purchased this "no finish simulator". No matter for me, I have no hurry, I have the IL2 1946

[fruitbat]

I don't care, i sat in a spitfire today (thanks again Bongo!).

[Winger]

I expect nothing less but the next Betaupdate or the final verison of the patch.
The Game could be SOOO great and would boost the sales of the sequel to hell and back if it would run as intended. I am supre almost EVERYONE that owns Clod would 100% buy the sequel if CloD would run well in the first place. But as it stands now most people including me stand on the point that they rather punish 1C for the CloD mess instead of buying their sequel.

Winger

[banned]

Originally Posted by BlackSix
Probably still have to clarify a few things about the standard geymdeve in general:
1) The publishers do not like to spend money on "poslereliznoe" service problem projects. If the game fails, it is much cheaper than all instantly shut down and disband the team.
2) release of patches for the troubled project, which means the contents of the command is usually only possible through the advance allocation of money for new development. In fact, correcting the previous project "eaten through" money allocated to the next. There is next - it means there will be no patches for the previous one, bye.

Given the above, the decision to finish the first full release of the past usually means instant death.

Also, all of the above applies to the gaming industry in general and do not necessarily reflect the situation within 1C.


Can someone analyse this a bit further? Are they taking a risk against the norm, as stated in the last sentence? Are they trying to find middle ground, between fixing this sim and not allocating to many dollars away from the sequel? Can this be detrimental to the possibility of a total fix?

Some of you guys in this industry would be in a better position, than I, to answer these.

Regards,

[shotglass]

poslereliznoe = after release

[5./JG27.Farber]

Hopefully we see a hotfix for hurricane and spitfire 100 octane versions cold start problems. :-P

[ATAG_Dutch]

So anyway, I've been away from the interweb for a week. Are we expecting something today or does no-one know?

[SiThSpAwN]

So anyway, I've been away from the interweb for a week. Are we expecting something today or does no-one know?

Same thing we were expecting every week, more than we are going to get :)

[ATAG_Dutch]

Same thing we were expecting every week, more than we are going to get :)

:lol: So true!

[_YoYo_]

Sitll no fix for the last beta?

Ok, sitll we have the Friday....

[Force10]

If you say so.. I really don't care!

I just wanted to make sure and ask you prior to useing your quote in any future CoD CTD topics.. In that there are quite a few whinners around here that don't agree with us that the PC configuration can be the sorce of most if not all CTDs

Nope, CTD's havent been my issue. It's the 107 other things that are wrong with COD that I'm onboard with, the stuff that is common on everybody's machine.

[JG52Uther]

The RoF forum tends to have one thread about CoD, its a handy place for the afficionados to rant off about CoD with impunity.So, I have Just moved 96 RoF related posts to an existing RoF thread in the pilots lounge.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Nope, CTD's havent been my issue.
Yes we have established that much!

But what I am asking you now is do you have a problem with me quoting you the next time the CoD CTD topic comes up.. Yes or No?

[Force10]

Yes we have established that much!

But what I am asking you now is do you have a problem with me quoting you the next time the CoD CTD topic comes up.. Yes or No?

Knock yourself out. Since I haven't posted anything about CTD's yet, it won't be a problem. Just as long as you understand that you saying earlier about me complaining about CTD's was just another one of your baseless observations that has no facts to back it up. So...are we good?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Knock yourself out.
S! Thanks Bud!

In that what with you being one of thier own..

Maybe they will take your statments to hart?

Because whenever someone from my side tries to point out this simple fact..

They go off on some fan-boy rant!

[Force10]

S! Thanks Bud!



No worries...glad I could help! I have in fact only had 1 CTD in COD offline, and that was when I was testing one of the patches and put the max planes I could put up in the QMB (over 50) to test FPS. Frames were decent, but it crashed about 5 mins in. Not a complaint really, just a statement. (you can quote it if ya like per our agreement...lol)

[ACE-OF-ACES]

No worries...glad I could help!
I think it will be a BIG help!

Because a statment like that comming from one of thier own will be hard for them to ignore! Thanks for stepping up!

[Force10]

I think it will be a BIG help!

Because a statment like that comming from one of thier own will be hard for them to ignore! Thanks for stepping up!

Just keep in my mind that we are talking about offline here....Most complaints I have seen refer to online...so just don't chop quote to suit an agenda and all is well.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Just keep in my mind that we are talking about offline here....Most complaints I have seen refer to online...so just don't chop quote to suit an agenda and all is well.
No worries!

Because your statment is independent of CoD online or offline (recall your statment was wrt RoF CTDs)

That is to say all I plan on using out of your quote it the acknolagement that the PC config can be the root cause of CTD issues.

Something most of the CoD CTD whinners will not even acknolage!

But what with you being one of thier own they will find it hard to ignore the fact that you acknolaged this simple truth!

Which is all 'we' have been saying since day one!

That being that there is a good chance that most of the CTD's that people are experancing have nothing to do with CoD and everything to do with thier PC confing.

Which fits/explains the symptom that some get them all the time and others only experance them once in a great while.. i.e. same game software (CoD) differnt PC (OS, hardware, software, drivers, etc)

SAVVY?

[furbs]

So who won the "what do you expect for this Friday?" with the answer "feck all"?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

So who won the "what do you expect for this Friday?" with the answer "feck all"?
Don't get too derpessed furbs!

In that this would not be the first time in CoD history that we did not get a Friday update!

Thus I would not jump to any conclusions that one missed friday update means 1C is saying feck all to the CoD users

[Force10]

No worries!

Because your statment is independent of CoD online or offline

That is to say all I plan on using out of your quote it the acknolagement that the PC config can be the root cause of CTD issues.

Something most of the CoD CTD whinners will not even acknolage!

But what with you being one of thier own they will find it hard to ignore the fact that you acknolage that simple truth!

Which is all 'we' have been saying for so long now..

That being that there is a good chance that most of the CTD's that people are experancing have nothing to do with CoD and everything to do with thier PC confing.

SAVVY?

Yes I understand. I have however seen even devoted COD fans mention CTD's in online play. ATAG guys as well. The Launcher crash and other net code issues have been mentioned by many...devoted and not. Again, I don't fly online so I haven't experienced this. So you think all of those folks (Including ATAG) that have complained about online CTD's just don't have their rig set up right?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Yes I understand.
And your in good company!

In that most do understand this simple truth..

There is only a handful to devoted whiners that don't and blaim it all on CoD.

To be honest, I don't belive they even belive that!

In that it is such a simple truth (read DUH)

But it fits thier adgenda so they choose to ignore this simple truth!

[Force10]

So you think all of those folks (Including ATAG) that have complained about online CTD's just don't have their rig set up right?

Can you just answer this question please?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Can you just answer this question please?
I allready have..

In that I never said CoD is not the source of some of the CTDs..

I would be silly to say that in that even 1C admits there are CoD CTD issues..

Which is why 1C is asking for the crash logs.. In the hopes they can accont for those non standard PC configs..

My point is simple..

We are all using the same game software..

Yet some are experancing CTDs more often than others..

Since the software is the same, that leaves the differences in the PC and PC configurations..

Something both you and I agree on.

So yes some CTDs are CoD related, and some CTDs are PC config related..

I don't know if I would go as far as to say that those who experance them more than others have thier PCs configured 'WRONG' as much as thier is something 'DIFFERENT' about thier PC configs

S!

[AbortedMan]

I allready have..

In that I never said CoD is not the source of some of the CTDs..

I would be silly to say that in that even 1C admits there are CoD CTD issues..

Which is why 1C is asking for the crash logs.. In the hopes they can accont for those non standard PC configs..

My point is simple..

We are all using the same game software..

Yet some are experancing CTDs more often than others..

Since the software is the same, that leaves the differences in the PC and PC configurations..

Something both you and I agree on.

S!


Great point here. I've talked to many players that have their settings not suitable for their PC, not tried different full screen options, probably running a ridic amount of stuff in the background. I think it's safe to say a LOT of crashes and problems are thd result of user error. Some software is susceptible to that more than others.

[Cataplasma]

Great point here. I've talked to many players that have their settings not suitable for their PC, not tried different full screen options, probably running a ridic amount of stuff in the background. I think it's safe to say a LOT of crashes and problems are thd result of user error. Some software is susceptible to that more than others.

nothing in the background on my msconfig but the game remains the same sad thing...my sli setup is crying

[fox3]

So no news or patch or we still in the dark about the future of CLOD? :!:

[_YoYo_]

So no news or patch or we still in the dark about the future of CLOD? :!:

Friday dont end yet on Hawaii.

[furbs]

Don't get too derpessed furbs!

In that this would not be the first time in CoD history that we did not get a Friday update!

Thus I would not jump to any conclusions that one missed friday update means 1C is saying feck all to the CoD users

Depressed? not at all, i was laughing my **** off as typed.:grin:

[grawl]

I would love to have some minicam to see what is happening in MG's office now! :grin:

[PotNoodles]

So no news or patch or we still in the dark about the future of CLOD? :!:

Maybe the reason there was no read me file is so nobody knows what has been fixed, if anything. So here we are beta testing a patch that we have no list of fixes for and we are suppose to be beta test it to find faults :confused:

How are we suppose to know if the tree Lod isn't just a part of a fix for fps along with the rest of this disastrous patch? Don't we need this readme file to start testing this patch properly? I find it hard to believe they didn't have time for it on release and a week later we still don't get one..I mean, is it so hard to tell use what was fixed?

[furbs]

Maybe the reason there was no read me file is so nobody knows what has been fixed, if anything. So here we are beta testing a patch that we have no list of fixes for and we are suppose to be beta test it to find faults :confused:

How are we suppose to know if the tree Lod isn't just a part of a fix for fps along with the rest of this disastrous patch? Don't we need this readme file to start testing this patch properly? I find it hard to believe they didn't have time for it on release and a week later we still don't get one..I mean, is it so hard to tell use what was fixed?

Over the last few months i honestly couldn't believe it could be any more farcical , i was wrong.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Yes I understand. I have however seen even devoted COD fans mention CTD's in online play. ATAG guys as well. The Launcher crash and other net code issues have been mentioned by many...devoted and not. Again, I don't fly online so I haven't experienced this. So you think all of those folks (Including ATAG) that have complained about online CTD's just don't have their rig set up right?

I was experiencing CTD's as I was exiting CoD with this latest beta patch. Because I had stopped playing for the night, it was no big thing.....but it meant something wasn't right. When I did JTDawg's "repair fixit" the CTD's stopped. Stutters also greatly reduced, rapid panning with TrackIR very smooth now, not jerky. (But, as I learned later, this fixit doesn't stop the trees from suddenly popping up. :().

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=440832&postcount=13

[skouras]

they never posted a read me file for the last and previous betas...
they never keep what they saying..
simply as that
im pretty sure they are working only with the new project and if can add new things on bob they add them
just for experiement
they don't have the money and the time to fix this game
totally fail..:grin:

[David Hayward]

Over the last few months i honestly couldn't believe it could be any more farcical , i was wrong.

At what point do you think it will get so farcical that you'll go away?

[furbs]

At what point do you think it will get so farcical that you'll go away?

Why would you want me to go away?

[David Hayward]

Why would you want me to go away?

I didn't say I wanted you to go away. I asked how much more farcical does it have to get before you do go away. You seem to have a very high tolerance for farce.

[fox3]

they never posted a read me file for the last and previous betas...
they never keep what they saying..
simply as that
im pretty sure they are working only with the new project and if can add new things on bob they add them
just for experiement
they don't have the money and the time to fix this game
totally fail..:grin:

Yeah looks like this is how CLOD us gunna stay maybe get one more little patch out if were lucky. :(

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Depressed? not at all, i was laughing my **** off as typed.:grin:
My bad..

I guess should have known your 'feck all' comment had nothing to do with reality and everything to do with you seeing it as just another opportunity to take a swipe at 1C CoD team and stoke the whining flames

[Tigertooo]

'what do you expect for this Friday?'

:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::g rin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:
perhaps we could expect something, we didn't got anything though

[furbs]

My bad..

I guess should have known your 'feck all' comment had nothing to do with reality and everything to do with you seeing it as just another opportunity to take a swipe at 1C CoD team and stoke the whining flames

Wrong again, i dont have to do anything, i just turn up each Friday and they do the rest.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Yeah you keep telling yourself that!

Maybe even you will start to belive it one day!

By the way I saw a girl in a movie once..

She had this system of clicking her red heels togther three times..

You might want to give that a go! It seemed to work well for her in her fantacy land! ;)

[furbs]

Yeah you keep telling yourself that!

Maybe even you will start to belive it one day!

By the way I saw a girl in a movie once..

She had this system of clicking her red heels togther three times..

You might want to give that a go! It seemed to work well for her! ;)

You might want to pass that advice on to the development team, Touche.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

You might want to pass that advice on to the development team, Touche.
Nah, in that it only works in fantacy lands like yours!

[furbs]

Nah, in that it only works in fantacy lands like yours!

Have you been drinking again?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Have you been drinking again?
So let me see if I understand you correctly..

You were so upset that there was no Friday update that you felt the need to post one of your typical panties in a twist the sky if falling coments sugesting that 1C is telling all the CoD users to 'feck off' by not posting a Friday update..

And you went as far as to point out that you were laughing your A off while posting it..

And now you want us to belive that it is I who has been drinking today?

Please..

I think they call that projecting!