Saturday, May 12, 2012. Patch Alpha – Report 2 + mini-fix

[BlackSix]

Hi everyone,

The testing has been a great success! We’re still catching up to all the logs and dumps we’ve received. We’re only up to Wednesday’s logs so far. We’ve identified and tentatively (pending further testing) fixed every bug found so far, except for one. Most importantly, one lucky log gave us exactly what we were looking for, and we got a crash at the precise moment we needed to have it happen.

The only bug we haven’t yet fixed has to do with the game crashing due to some external programs running in the background. We’re still investigating that one. It apparently may be connected to having flash videos loaded in a web browser while playing the game, and / or using voice chat. We’re not done investigating that one yet however, so we haven’t yet fixed it.

With that, we do have an update to the beta that should address the other crash bugs, and address some of the others like reduced quality cockpits. It’s a tiny .dll file that you need to put into your
(Program Files)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\core
Folder

Game version remains the same. When sending logs, dumps, screenshots, or any other info, please specify whether it’s pre- or post-fix.

Note: the game can also crash if you have the PowerStrip utility running in the background

Have a good weekend! We’re back on it Monday.

[Ailantd]

You are very very wellcome !

[Ze-Jamz]

Cheers dude

[Dano]

Great stuff :)

[Kupsised]

Does the sender of the one lucky log win some kind of prize? :P

Thanks again for the info, will give this a spin when I've got a bit of time later this evening.

[JG52Krupi]

Thanks.

I am surprised that anyone has a video/flash running as it halves fps (on ati gpu anyway).

[pupo162]

lets see

good rithim ... keep it up, !

EDIT

no more bad quality pits are gone... but we lost AA inside the pit. cockpits look jaggy again. they were soft at silk before

and it seems to me like stuttering is back.

[U505]

goog news thanks a lot for your works:grin::grin:

[Ze-Jamz]

Thanks.

I am surprised that anyone has a video/flash running as it halves fps (on ati gpu anyway).

Think hes on about a browser Flash Vid?

[GraveyardJimmy]

I dont know if this will be read by development team but it is worth pointing out that activating mumble overlay (voice communication system) caused instability for me, including a black screen. Might be worth looking into.

[352ndBushpilot]

Now this is great! Steady stream of news, hotfixes etc!

Thanks a bunch!

BP

[=AN=Apache]

Thanks B6

[Clu43]

Thanks BlackSix:)

[SlipBall]

Thanks for the hard work team!

[VO101_Tom]

Hi everyone,

Thank You! We will testing tonight :)

[GF_Mastiff]

Hi everyone,

The testing has been a great success! We’re still catching up to all the logs and dumps we’ve received. We’re only up to Wednesday’s logs so far. We’ve identified and tentatively (pending further testing) fixed every bug found so far, except for one. Most importantly, one lucky log gave us exactly what we were looking for, and we got a crash at the precise moment we needed to have it happen.

The only bug we haven’t yet fixed has to do with the game crashing due to some external programs running in the background. We’re still investigating that one. It apparently may be connected to having flash videos loaded in a web browser while playing the game, and / or using voice chat. We’re not done investigating that one yet however, so we haven’t yet fixed it.

With that, we do have an update to the beta that should address the other crash bugs, and address some of the others like reduced quality cockpits. It’s a tiny .dll file that you need to put into your
(Program Files)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\core
Folder

Game version remains the same. When sending logs, dumps, screenshots, or any other info, please specify whether it’s pre- or post-fix.

Have a good weekend! We’re back on it Monday.

How about checking Track Ir as maybe one of the culprits as what's launcher crashing CLOD.

[Gel-ler]

Thanks for the update!
Have a nice weekend!:grin:

[Robert]

Thanks TEAM! Mucho appreciated and testing out now.

[Pitti]

Thanks for the update and the mini-fix!
After 5 minutes of testing, I can say that the low quality cockpits are gone for me. Great. :)

[Jaws2002]

Great news. Thank you!

I have a question if possible. In the last update about BOM (second set of screenshots in the April 13th update), you posted few screenshots with different lighting than what is present in the recelnt version. Closer withe the original beautiful orange sun rise.

Is that kind of lighting part of the next patch, or was it used only for publicity purpose?

[SirAthlon]

Thanks BlackSix. :)

[Buchon]

The only bug we haven’t yet fixed has to do with the game crashing due to some external programs running in the background.

Here is a report from Stirwenn reporting CTD with Desktop window manager enabled :

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=420962

[SEE]

How about checking Track Ir as maybe one of the culprits as what's launcher crashing CLOD.

I thought that regards Freetrack and stopped it - made no difference but 'Check for Widows Update fired up' and my game died - disabled it along with any other program with 'Check for updates' options, also disabled Steams pop up messages, Windows Desktop set to minimum resources, etc. No AV on my OS either - took it off and use my old XP partition for web browsing,

[JG52Uther]

An update and a hotfix on a Saturday, great stuff!

[Trumper]

:) AT LAST ,a positive working partnership between the developers and the consumers with hopefully a 2 way open channel for communications and work through s.
Well done everyone.:)

[JG52Krupi]

Great news. Thank you!

I have a question if possible. In the last update about BOM (second set of screenshots in the April 13th update), you posted few screenshots with different lighting than what is present in the recelnt version. Closer withe the original beautiful orange sun rise.

Is that kind of lighting part of the next patch, or was it used only for publicity purpose?

On a similar topic, when will we be getting the items that were turned off back on and the reflection effects?

(Or are they I haven't played the mini fixed alpha yet.)

[Bounder!]

Awesome sauce, thanks Blacksix for the update.

[BH_woodstock]

regarding other programs or processes,My normal procedure is to go into task manager and turn off stuff Im sure a lot of people here do that.And have never been on voice comms while playing Dover(yet).If there is a voice comms program in Dover as in Il2 then i agree it should be looked at because from my understanding "most" people turn that off in il2.I have not looked in Dover to see if there is one or if its on or not.Will have a look and see.

i see now i am a senile member ;o)

[SlipBall]

I recommend to clear your cache folder if having a problem with the mini

[Jaws2002]

I thought that regards Freetrack and stopped it - made no difference but 'Check for Widows Update fired up' and my game died - disabled it along with any other program with 'Check for updates' options, also disabled Steams pop up messages, Windows Desktop set to minimum resources, etc. No AV on my OS either - took it off and use my old XP partition for web browsing,

Don't expect people to turn off the rest of the computer when they play a game. I WILL NOT turn off or uninstall my AV for any game if I have enough computer power to run them both. Gaming is a small part of what a computer does and shouldn't dictate how the computer is used, or what aps run on it.

[JG5_emil]

:) AT LAST ,a positive working partnership between the developers and the consumers with hopefully a 2 way open channel for communications and work through s.
Well done everyone.:)

+1

[SturmKreator]

the game crash for me every time and I didnt see any folder called cppdump

[ATAG_Doc]

Hahah external programs. Who would have thought. Chat and Flash! Like the banner on 1C website?

[enyaw]

Hi All

Just dloaded dll and installed started CLOD, gone to quick mission and got this message.

Thanks to all involved in trying to solve this sims probs.

Regards

Enyaw

[Dano]

Hi All

Just dloaded dll and installed started CLOD, gone to quick mission and got this message.

Thanks to all involved in trying to solve this sims probs.

Regards

Enyaw

Did you clear your cache folder?

[GraveyardJimmy]

the game crash for me every time and I didnt see any folder called cppdump

Did you enable logging in the config?

[SturmKreator]

Did you enable logging in the config?

yep, the crash folfer is in the game core? or in my documents? i found this cppcrash but not this cppdump

[SEE]

There isn't Cppdump folder, I only have the cppcrash folder and the dmp files are wriiten into it. As far as I understood thats it.

[SEE]

Hi All

Just dloaded dll and installed started CLOD, gone to quick mission and got this message.

Thanks to all involved in trying to solve this sims probs.

Regards

Enyaw

Which quick mission? I will try it and see if its a common problem

[FS~Phat]

Just flew a quick campaign sortie in Helmut Wick vs. J. C. Dundas and the new mini-patch works a treat! Got my beautiful cockpits back! I put the game into autopilot and had a really good look around from externals and back and forth to cockpit and flyby and its all looking really great with no crash. (this is with about 15-20 aircraft engaged in combat!)

System Ram sat at 6GB usage and GPU Ram at almost 2GB at 6048x1080.
At this res I still have to turn a couple things down to keep above 30FPS.
SSAO off - Grass off - landscape shading, trees and buildings on medium but it still looks gorgeous!

I especially noticed for the first time how smooth everything pans when looking from the F2 external camera, even in surround res @ 6048x1080!!! Feeling more like the ol' IL2 of yore! The clouds are still a problem but otherwise this is just amazing progress guys!

[VO101_Tom]

Hahah external programs. Who would have thought. Chat and Flash! Like the banner on 1C website?

I have many crash on the aircraft setup screen (!), while I talking on the TS (I dictated my setup to my friend). Weird.

[jamesdietz]

Still keeping fingers crossed....

[enyaw]

Hi All
It was a steam prob, verified files again and game ran, just had a crash but no report to send, quick mission london attack.

[Triggaaar]

If the testing is helping that much, perhaps this should be the way forward for all releases. Eg, the Moscow game could go as a Beta to a select few (pic some of those that have helped with previous Betas) before it goes on sale.

[Blackdog_kt]

To the community:
This is the purpose of alpha and beta test patches. We crashed, we sent them logs, they are looking into them and fixing issues one by one. The more crash logs we send, the faster they will know exactly what to fix.

So let's get testing :grin:


To the developers:
First of all, thanks for the feedback and hotfix guys.
Second, please keep this up. There are a lot of people willing to help and since patches and updates come around the weekend, most of us have enough time to put in some test flights.

This process is much better both for you and for us: you get logs that help you find errors and we get more frequent updates.

I think i will have no problem at all if 2 months from now we are still beta testing one patch a week, but each patch is improving something. It's also easier for your programmers to focus on a small list of changes each week.

Then, when everything regarding performance is fixed, you can roll it all into one big patch and put it on Steam. ;)

[FFCW_Urizen]

If you verified your files, you rolled back again to version 1.05.15950 and you are not running 1.06.17852 + Hotfix!

[_YoYo_]

Will test it, Thank You B6.

[SEE]

Hi All
It was a steam prob, verified files again and game ran, just had a crash but no report to send, quick mission london attack.

I just tested that quick mission with no problems (I always use that one anyway for performance measurements).

I have clouds disabled, SSAO and Shadows ON and Trees Off and played very smoothly.

[Jatta Raso]

thanks for the come through; time to shoot down some bugs

c:\start test phase

[Anders_And]

Great work Blacksix!! Its a pleasure to work your team this way!!! Thx alot!!!

[d.burnette]

Hi everyone,

We’ve identified and tentatively (pending further testing) fixed every bug found so far, except for one. Most importantly, one lucky log gave us exactly what we were looking for, and we got a crash at the precise moment we needed to have it happen.
[/B]

That certainly sounds promising, I unfortunately do not have the time to devote to this testing phase, but am following it closely with eager eyes.

Thanks for the update!

[slm]

After installing this latest mini fix I can say that flying at low altitude over small cities is quite nice now. I'm getting 60-90 fps and it feels smooth, no stutters. This is a big improvement from some older versions. No crashes yet, but haven't played many missions either.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Does the sender of the one lucky log win some kind of prize? :P



Aye or at least three cheers from the community! ;)

[tintifaxl]

Installed the the hot fix and flew 3 single player missions (2 hours) from the JG2 Wick vs. Dundas campaign 8-10 and had no CTD's at all.

[outer beacon]

Thank you for the update, this sort of interaction between the developers and community should continue. I, and I am sure many others, would love to help out any way we can.

Cheers guys, +1 1C

[baronWastelan]

Congratulations MG team on optimizing the scenery! Shadows, lighting, buildings, trees, all set to max except building detail. Seems to be built for the GTX570 :D

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/baronWastelan/Launcher_2012_05_12_11_02_52_575.jpg

[Aer9o]

The "see trough" throttle cable lead and canopy ejection cord still not fixed on 109`s:confused:!

[skouras]

better performance than the original alpha..

[JG5_emil]

Wow I'm actually amazed they released this so fast!

Thanks :cool:

[SG1_Lud]

:) AT LAST ,a positive working partnership between the developers and the consumers with hopefully a 2 way open channel for communications and work through s.
Well done everyone.:)

This.

Thanks B6!

[flyingblind]

It dose what it says on the tin for me. Had a little tussle to get it running and had to restart a few times before a bunch of blue screens and launcher.exes sorted themselves out but that has cleared and everything running great. Slightly better fps and even less of a dip when hitting bombers over London plus the cockpits look excellent and the lettering on the wings is legible again.

I noticed in task manager performance that the CPU is being greatly under used now at something over 50% and the memory at around 20%. So I guess it is my GPU that is keeping my FPS around 30 and rarely up to 60. I will wait to see the effect of the clouds being fully reinstated but I may have to get a better card or a Sli setup.

As things stand I am very pleased. Thanks guys.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Sweet :)

Great work 1C. Going to test now :D

[Mysticpuma]

Well done 1C, this is the service we hope for, please don't stop as you can see it boosts the positive feelings on the forums.

Weekly, monthly patches will be more than welcomed...cheers, MP

[GraveyardJimmy]

Flew on ATAG with a few aircraft changes (~1hr I think). No CTDs (cleared cache). Great so far!

[Kwiatek]

So far no CTD both online and offline playing ab. 1 hour.

Still i got ocasionally stutters (micropauses).

But flying low level over cities is much better now - much more smooth with less noticable stuttering. Fps 40-60.

I got Q6600 + Ati 6870 + 4 Gb Ramm+ Win7 64 bit. Settings medium to high without shadows.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Right path...

With the particle performance problems solved, we'll have good gameplay!

[sjokkel]

Performance seems better. I tested it for a few flights and no CTD's occurred. I had several CTD's yesterday before the mini-fix.

I do still have clouds popping up which started after installing the alpha patch. I cleaned out the cache after installing the fix.

Also the hurricane is missing a mirror. The frame is there but no mirror.

Keep up the good work!

[mazex]

So nice to get an update so fast. Thanks a lot!

Let's keep the weekly builds coming until you release the final patch to steam :)

[=AN=Apache]

With this fix for me came back to have more low fps and stutters. tested with and without the fox ATAG SERVER.

Fix AVG fps WITH + - 20
No FIX fos AVG = +- 40

My setup Core 2 Quad 2.2GHz 5770 ATI RADEON HD and 4 GBs ram

[Insuber]

Played around 30', no stutter, max & average fps looks the same, but min is higher, with everything maxed out, Vsync ON and SSAO ON. Seems more fluid.

[melasuda]

thx b6

There are mi fix impresion

Pre Fix:

London: 20m , 30fps 45fps
France 700m, 45 fps 60 fps

Post Fix:

London: 20m, 38 fps 45fps
France 700m, 52fps 60fps.

My seting are
I7 950 24Gb ddr 1600, velociraptor SA3 10000 rpm, Gtx570

GRAF DRV beta 301.24
FXAA: On
TRIPLE BUFER: ON
VSYNC:ON

In game

1920x1080
Full
model detail: High
buildings detail: low
landscape detail: high
Forest: low
visual efec: high
tex cuality: Original
AA, epilepsy, SSAO, VSYNC. Desac

Damage marcks: high
many buildings: high
terrain shadows: medium

grass: On
shadow:On
roads: On
roads

[AKA_Scorp]

Thanks I'll give it a try.

[JG52Krupi]

With this fix for me came back to have more low fps and stutters. tested with and without the fox ATAG SERVER.

Fix AVG fps WITH + - 20
No FIX fos AVG = +- 40

My setup Core 2 Quad 2.2GHz 5770 ATI RADEON HD and 4 GBs ram

Probably not the reason but if you had a flash video running in the background it halves your fps.

[furbs]

Who has video running while playing CLOD?

[Winger]

4 hours of constant flying with numerous contacts and fights - no crash as of yet. Performance like pre hotfix. Great work!Have to monitor it some more but my hope is big that the time of a shelved Clod are gone:)

Winger

[ATAG_Bliss]

Best part to me is the landscape and reflections. Now the transition of color off to the horizon looks normal instead of blocky. Just check out a big city. Huge improvement guys!

Here's some mornin screenies online:

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7001/2012051200004.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/2012051200004.jpg/)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6995/2012051200005t.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/2012051200005t.jpg/)

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/327/2012051200006.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/2012051200006.jpg/)

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5901/2012051200007.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/2012051200007.jpg/)

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6285/2012051200008.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/2012051200008.jpg/)

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8734/2012051200009.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/2012051200009.jpg/)

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8431/2012051200010.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/2012051200010.jpg/)

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2328/2012051200011.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/2012051200011.jpg/)

[jibo]

thx for the update ATAG bliss,
the new engine is a success, now they can at last slowly enable all the hidden wonders and fine tuning capabilities the game has, the work is paying off, the team must be delighted
it's gonna be insane

let's roll and release another alpha :cool:

[furbs]

Think im going to try a reinstall.

[JG5_emil]

Anyone getting huge pauses?

I cleared out my cache already but when I flew the hurricane in the free flight over england i was getting 5-6 second pauses. Is this just the cache rebuilding itself maybe?

I do have work software running in the background so that could be the cause...can't switch it off right now.

[Helrza]

Awsome stuff B6 and 1c crew, excellent to see things starting to iron out. :D Gonna get this fix right away and give it a crack :D

Its great to see the interaction between the community and you guys to get it sorted, this is how things should be, instead of rubbish arguments, i hope it stays like this :D :D

Btw, any information on who submitted the log?? :D that way we can give them a round of applause also :D :D

[Insuber]

Yeah the guy who submitted the good crash dump should get a free copy of BOM ... if you lost his mail then let's make a lottery with all those who submitted a log ... some positive marketing doesn't hurt!

[addman]

Yeah the guy who submitted the good crash dump should get a free copy of BOM ... if you lost his mail then let's make a lottery with all those who submitted a log ... some positive marketing doesn't hurt!

"The crash-dump lottery" lol...

[pupo162]

somethig new on this patch:

you can now play at x16 without your game going down to 2 fps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjUgRT1JcdI&feature=youtu.be

[swiss]

Hi All

Just dloaded dll and installed started CLOD, gone to quick mission and got this message.

Thanks to all involved in trying to solve this sims probs.

Regards

Enyaw

same here

[MD_Marx]

Downloaded, installed. Didn't clear cache, but flew 4 - 5 ATAG Spit missions without CTD at all, albeit without much dynamic traffic. Had a couple of offline games (lots of planes) - no CTD yet (although was getting regular ones with latest patch) - early days, but fingers crossed. Really impressed that team prepared to put out a fix on a Saturday, so close to patch; keep it up lads ;-)

Marx

[catsrfun]

Tested it out on a mission I had made with about 50 aircraft all low level over Dover , no crashes yet which is good. Now if only the stutters were gone then it would be running well. Averaging about 50 fps but the stutters kill it. I have all detail on high.

[Chivas]

The patch fix working well here, no CTD's.

I did have micro stutters, looking at the buildings and trees flash by, when flying at treetop level over London. I was able remove the stutters by reducing settings from High to Medium. I found very little difference in visual quality by reducing the settings. Frame rates stayed at a constant 60fps with Vsinq ON.

[strom32]

I think he fact they are releasing Saturdays is that they are really onto something and know what to fix to get a result...

[|450|Devil]

On ATAG for 5 hours with no CTD

[CaptainDoggles]

Don't expect people to turn off the rest of the computer when they play a game. I WILL NOT turn off or uninstall my AV for any game if I have enough computer power to run them both. Gaming is a small part of what a computer does and shouldn't dictate how the computer is used, or what aps run on it.

Antivirus suites do practically nothing, just FYI. Any decent rootkit can install itself in master boot record and then force a BSOD, at which point your AV is now useless.

I haven't had any antivirus running in 4 years, and never had a problem yet. I just don't download random EXE's, and I don't run stupid microsoft programs like Outlook which are the security equivalent of swiss cheese.

Antivirus programs are just like the US's TSA: just there to make you feel better, but don't get anything accomplished.

[ATAG_Doc]

No CTD's yet and smooth as silk. Thanks guys!

[CaptainDoggles]

No CTD's yet and smooth as silk. Thanks guys!

Yep.

Runs really well for me.

[chris455]

Averaging 52 FPS in Black Death with all sliders maxed, 1900X1200, SSAO, AA and Vsynch OFF (I'm using the 301.24 Nvidia drivers with Nvidia FXAA, no jaggies and very light frame hit)
No crashes and smooth as Buttah!
Is it just me or do the sounds seem awesome all the sudden?

[Luftrofl]

Nice improvement. Had the game crash on me once while loading a quick mission but smooth since. Haven't tried multiplayer yet but if it's at least as good as before the mini-fix I'll be happy.

Single player is definitly better, 50 fps on black death with SSAO and AA off is a big improvement.

Keep up this rate of improvement and contact!

Throw in some tanks/infantry and make this a better version of WWII online and I will throw money at you.

[Flanker35M]

S!

As my TM Warthog is still on it's way I can test by running tracks etc. So decided to run the Black Death on 1920x1080 with everything maxed out except Building Detail at Medium, Epilepsy Filter Off.

First test with SSAO Off, VSync Off, AA Off. Otherwise as above.

Minimum: 6FPS (the bomb explosion scene with Hurricanes)
Maximum: 197FPS
Average: 80FPS

Second test with SSAO, VSync On and AA at 1x.

Minimum: 6FPS
Maximum 68FPS
Average: 57FPS

So in conclusion must say the patching is definitely going the right way :) Rig in signature and using Catalyst 12.4 WHQL + CAP 1.

[David198502]

no launcher crashes for me since the fix neither offline nor online.but i have to say, that i havent flown in formation with my squad mates since.but up until now, it looks good so far.
the textures are back, and thats very good.

what i have noticed though, like other already mentioned, is that sometimes i have huge freezes(screen completely stuck) for a few seconds, and then the game continues....i would suspect, that in these situations, the game normally used to crash.
i consider it still as a problem, cause when flying online, it can get pretty lethal to have this kind of freeze during a dogfight, but its still better than the crashes of course.
so after months of waiting, you guys deserve a thank you again....thank you.

[Ataros]

what i have noticed though, like other already mentioned, is that sometimes i have huge freezes(screen completely stuck) for a few seconds, and then the game continues....i would suspect, that in these situations, the game normally used to crash.

If this happens online, turn OFF skin downloading in network settings. It causes long freezes.

If offline it can be a texture loading if you have texture setting on Maximum. Reduce it to high then or medium if you have 1GB vram.

Also make sure to add both Steam/Il-2 and Documents/IL-2 folders to 2 exclusion lists of your AV: 1)real time files monitoring and 2)network monitoring. Add Launcher.exe to exclusions too. Avast AV created stutters for me till I did this last year.

I WILL NOT turn off or uninstall my AV for any game if I have enough computer power to run them both. Gaming is a small part of what a computer does and shouldn't dictate how the computer is used, or what aps run on it.

But you have to manage exclusion lists as described above. This is why exclusion lists are present in AVs. Real-time monitoring produces stutters.

[U505]

no launcher crashes for me since the fix neither offline nor online.but i have to say, that i havent flown in formation with my squad mates since.but up until now, it looks good so far.
the textures are back, and thats very good.

what i have noticed though, like other already mentioned, is that sometimes i have huge freezes(screen completely stuck) for a few seconds, and then the game continues....i would suspect, that in these situations, the game normally used to crash.
i consider it still as a problem, cause when flying online, it can get pretty lethal to have this kind of freeze during a dogfight, but its still better than the crashes of course.
so after months of waiting, you guys deserve a thank you again....thank you.

I notice the same problem as you but i don't think the crashes are now replaced by stutters or huge freezes. Before the patch i had very little crash and yesterday night on atag a huge amout of freeze. Perhaps due to the number of player?:rolleyes:

[HurricaneDriver]

Definitely smoother, but I'm not getting bullet damage except on the control surfaces. Anyone else getting this?

[Flanker35M]

S!

Propably reported, but when playing track Hurricane vs. HE111 sounds is bugged. When Hurricane fires the guns engine sound cuts and comes back after firing again.

[David198502]

ok had a launcher crash right now on Rebka4...
i think everybody on the server crashed in the exact moment, as i restartet the game, the server was suddenly empty, except my name was still visible in the playerlist.

but the really annoying thing now is, that i cannot connect to it anymore.
the game will crash everytime i try to connect to this server.when i then restart the game and try again to connect, i get a serverfailauthentification message, because the server still thinks im connected.
this will stay, until i connect to another server(which is no problem btw).i can connect to any other server, but rebka4, i either get a game crash or this authentification message.
i tried it now about 20times.then i restarted steam, with no joy, and even a reboot of the pc doesnt work....i take my thank you back until this is solved... :)

[Blakduk]

Update has done a fantastic job for me- no CTD's and framerates now faster and smoother. I can now fly around london on highest settings and get very good results.
Online i was getting freezes, but blocking skins fixed that issue.
Dogfighting is much more fun now, i dont get slowdowns as i approach another aircraft. This used to be a big problem for me, especially with Ju88's for some reason.

The only video problem i now have are some glitches when using external views. Some background objects showing through aircraft occassionaly, especially bomb craters. This is quite random however and seems to go away if i change the view for a moment and then return.

[Ploughman]

Definitely smoother, but I'm not getting bullet damage except on the control surfaces. Anyone else getting this?

These were disabled for the purposes of the beta test, as were flashes.

• No damage decals on aircraft from small-caliber hits.
• The hit flash effects are temporarily turned off.

[mazex]

If this happens online, turn OFF skin downloading in network settings. It causes long freezes.


Which line is that? It's something I have wanted to do a long time as I have connected that to online stuttering... Like in this post from October last year where I reposted a mail to Ilya after the last official patch http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=344705&postcount=78

[Ataros]

Which line is that? It's something I have wanted to do a long time as I have connected that to online stuttering... Like in this post from October last year where I reposted a mail to Ilya after the last official patch http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=344705&postcount=78

It is in the game menu. Network settings screen.

[Ataros]

ok had a launcher crash right now on Rebka4...
i think everybody on the server crashed in the exact moment, as i restartet the game, the server was suddenly empty, except my name was still visible in the playerlist.

but the really annoying thing now is, that i cannot connect to it anymore.
the game will crash everytime i try to connect to this server.when i then restart the game and try again to connect, i get a serverfailauthentification message, because the server still thinks im connected.
this will stay, until i connect to another server(which is no problem btw).i can connect to any other server, but rebka4, i either get a game crash or this authentification message.
i tried it now about 20times.then i restarted steam, with no joy, and even a reboot of the pc doesnt work....i take my thank you back until this is solved... :)

This is a server specific issue. Repka admins can not figure out what causes it. Please send crashdumps and log.txt to Luthier. Maybe the devs can help.

[HurricaneDriver]

These were disabled for the purposes of the beta test, as were flashes.

• No damage decals on aircraft from small-caliber hits.
• The hit flash effects are temporarily turned off.

Thanks Ploughman.

[SEE]

ok had a launcher crash right now on Rebka4...
i think everybody on the server crashed in the exact moment, as i restartet the game, the server was suddenly empty, except my name was still visible in the playerlist.

but the really annoying thing now is, that i cannot connect to it anymore.
the game will crash everytime i try to connect to this server.


Exactly the same happened to me David with LE crashing trying to join any server after a server crashed.

I had to roll back using Steam Verify Integrity - then re-installed the alpha with hotfix and deleted the cache/shaders files before starting CLOD.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Well done Team :grin:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

The only bug we haven’t yet fixed has to do with the game crashing due to some external programs running in the background. We’re still investigating that one. It apparently may be connected to having flash videos loaded in a web browser while playing the game, and / or using voice chat. We’re not done investigating that one yet however, so we haven’t yet fixed it.
On that note, for those who don't have dedicated game PC, as in they have alot of 'other' software installed for work or what ever, and are 'not' that good at manually configuring their PC for game play.. Those types should consider looking at IOBit's Game Booster. It can unloaded alot of un-necessary programs and generally optimse your PC prior to launching the game.

[Rowddy]

I downloaded and installed the mini patch but i get CTD's only on startup?? Now i noticed that the file says it's the number of the previous patch after downloading. So is it that? am i the only one? Or did i do something wrong (i installed it in the correct folder)?:confused:

Any help on this would be very appriciated.

[JG52Uther]

Did you clear your cache Rowddy?

[Rowddy]

no i didn't but the downloaded patch has got this name.. "IL2COD_15866_core_patch" and the version that i have is this one.. "IL2COD_17582"

That can't be correct aswell can it? Just checking before installing it again.

[David198502]

Exactly the same happened to me David with LE crashing trying to join any server after a server crashed.

I had to roll back using Steam Verify Integrity - then re-installed the alpha with hotfix and deleted the cache/shaders files before starting CLOD.

well, for me it worked again after an hour and about 40crashes:grin::confused:

[ATAG_Septic]

On that note, for those who don't have dedicated game PC, as in they have alot of 'other' software installed for work or what ever, and are 'not' that good at manually configuring their PC for game play.. Those types should consider looking at IOBit's Game Booster. It can unloaded alot of un-necessary programs and generally optimse your PC prior to launching the game.

I have bought and used IOBit's software in the past and found it a convenient way of stopping unnecessary services and other system management.

I notice that it's identified by Steam as software that can cause problems so don't bother with it anymore. There is lots of software on that list of potential troublemakers for Steam though.

Septic.

[=AN=Apache]

Probably not the reason but if you had a flash video running in the background it halves your fps.

I thought it improved here!

I deleted the cache folder and had a complete improvement. May be my impression, but it could be that had something flash behind when I was testing, I do not really remember.

Thank you for your service

: D

[ACE-OF-ACES]

I notice that it's identified by Steam as software that can cause problems so don't bother with it anymore.
Strange.. I have stam and no prob.. Oh wait, I bet I know what they are talking about. Game Booster can shut down the STEAM process, and as you know that has to be running prior to lanching a STEAM game. But, Ill bet they were refering to an old version of Game Booster, in that the current one is smart enough to detect STEAM and not shut it down, unless you manually tell Game Booster to shut it down.

[von Brühl]

I think he means that on the steam forums and help pages, they state that GameBooster might cause problems running their games. But you're correct, the newest versions have been great about identifying Steam processes and leaving them alone.

[philip.ed]

On that note, for those who don't have dedicated game PC, as in they have alot of 'other' software installed for work or what ever, and are 'not' that good at manually configuring their PC for game play.. Those types should consider looking at IOBit's Game Booster. It can unloaded alot of un-necessary programs and generally optimse your PC prior to launching the game.

This is going to get lost in this thread mate. I'd suggest making a new topic (unless I've completely missed it).

[SIDWULF]

Very poor preformance with more then 3 aircraft on the screen in multiplayer, very poor preformance on take off and landing with smoke effects. Otherwise preformance is great on max with AA off.

Why is this?

[furbs]

This is going to get lost in this thread mate. I'd suggest making a new topic (unless I've completely missed it).


I did, but they deleted it.

[JG52Krupi]

I did, but they deleted it.

No its in the bug thread mate.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

On that note, for those who don't have dedicated game PC, as in they have alot of 'other' software installed for work or what ever, and are 'not' that good at manually configuring their PC for game play.. Those types should consider looking at IOBit's Game Booster. It can unloaded alot of un-necessary programs and generally optimse your PC prior to launching the game.
This is going to get lost in this thread mate. I'd suggest making a new topic (unless I've completely missed it).

and

This is going to get lost in this thread mate. I'd suggest making a new topic (unless I've completely missed it).
I did, but they deleted it.

Ah.. were you talking to be Phil or furbs?

Because based on the previous page it looked like you quoted me, but I see that furbs responded instead

[SEE]

My BIOS doesn't feature an option to enable/disable Hyperthreading only 'Speedstep' which seems to be for the OS to determine CPU speed - I disabled it, not sure if it will make any difference though.

Nvidea CP has a 'Threaded Optimisation' parameter - is this similar to Hyperthreading or entirely different?

[Bokononist]

My BIOS doesn't feature an option to enable/disable Hyperthreading only 'Speedstep' which seems to be for the OS to determine CPU speed - I disabled it, not sure if it will make any difference though.

Nvidea CP has a 'Threaded Optimisation' parameter - is this similar to Hyperthreading or entirely different?

I don't know what threaded optimisation is, but the disable hyperthreading option is only relevent if you have an i7 processor. It essentially creates 4 'virtual' cores to enable more threads to be executed simultaniously. It has benefits in certain software, video encoding and that sort of thing, but rarely has any benefit in games, and obviously in this case(CloD) it actually has a detrimental effect.
Boko.

[SEE]

I don't know what threaded optimisation is, but the disable hyperthreading option is only relevent if you have an i7 processor. It essentially creates 4 'virtual' cores to enable more threads to be executed simultaniously. It has benefits in certain software, video encoding and that sort of thing, but rarely has any benefit in games, and obviously in this case(CloD) it actually has a detrimental effect.
Boko.

Thanks, I just googled my Dual Core CPU and it doesn't have HT - the mobo supports HT and Quad Cores so at least I know to disable it if I upgrade.

[d.burnette]

but rarely has any benefit in games, and obviously in this case(CloD) it actually has a detrimental effect.
Boko.

Also disabling hyperthreading will result in cooler cpu core temps as well.

[JG52Uther]

No its in the bug thread mate.

Correct. Bugs go in the bug thread.

[mazex]

It is in the game menu. Network settings screen.

Ahh - after unchecking that option I suddenly got this line in my conf.ini under [NET]:

SkinDownload=0

Rather annoying that only gets into the conf.ini after changing it so you don't see it if its on the default setting (=1)...

Thanks!

[philip.ed]

Ah.. were you talking to be (ME?) Phil or furbs?

Because based on the previous page it looked like you quoted me, but I see that furbs responded instead

I meant you Aces. But I think Furbs responded because he made the topic I was suggesting towards.

[pencon]

Well the hotfix worked for me I had an hour straight over land and buildings lag and crash free even with shadows on , trees and SSao on (offline) . GTX 570 is da bomb ! This Sim is only going to get better from here , coupled by diminished whining, sniveling and lip quivering ..

[pencon]

Also disabling hyperthreading will result in cooler cpu core temps as well.

Here's an actual hyper threading comparison http://www.overclock.net/t/671977/hyperthreading-in-games

[PhilHL]

also the hotfix works also great at my machine. over 2 hours on atag server and no CTD. i run on high detail and all on without ssao. pretty smooth and the colors... yesss. its just looking amasing!!! and sound is also very good! cannot compare it to the preview pics we got 1,5 years ago!!!

what great improvements. now i will play the game i bought just on release day!!! keep on improving the game 1c!! your doing a good job

[Gourmand]

Hi everyone,

The only bug we haven’t yet fixed has to do with the game crashing due to some external programs running in the background.



it's perhaps teamspeak overlay, it's an unstable software integrated with teamspeak

[FS~Phat]

it's perhaps teamspeak overlay, it's an unstable software integrated with teamspeak

There are quite a few programs that can interfere with menu and game rendering with particular settings.

TS overlay
Gameclaw
Radeonpro

To name a few that I have used and seen problems with this game.

[furbs]

There are quite a few programs that can interfere with menu and game rendering with particular settings.

TS overlay
Gameclaw
Radeonpro

To name a few that I have used and seen problems with this game.

Add Gamebooster to the list too.

[GraveyardJimmy]

There are quite a few programs that can interfere with menu and game rendering with particular settings.

TS overlay
Gameclaw
Radeonpro

To name a few that I have used and seen problems with this game.

And mumble overlay. Haven't tried with ventrillo.

[JG4_Bendwick]

I still have at any resolution in different settings,
Sutter on the ground, in low pass.
FPS can I reduce or increase but that Sutter will always be there.
But no CTDs more!
If it solves the problem yet ... I agree with the graphics.

then you can tackle it all the bugs.
thx Widukind

Settings:
Win 7 64 bit
Intel I7 2600k 3 .4Ghz
ATI Readon 6800 HD
8GB Ram
SATA Memory

[ZaltysZ]

There are quite a few programs that can interfere with menu and game rendering with particular settings.

TS overlay
Gameclaw
Radeonpro

To name a few that I have used and seen problems with this game.

We can add Mumble overlay to this list too.

[SiThSpAwN]

Add Gamebooster to the list too.

Why Gamebooster? I have been using that since I bought this sim with no issues?

[furbs]

Why Gamebooster? I have been using that since I bought this sim with no issues?


In my case it messes up the menus.

maybe if i start Gamebooster, switch to game, "then" start steam?...il try it.

Nope for it crashes after 5 mins with Gamebooster on.

[SiThSpAwN]

Did you configure it yourself or just use the defaults? I cant say that I have had any menu issues that I have seen, but I did make sure to go through and see what it decided to shut off and what it didnt...

[priller26]

Has anyone with an nvidia gtx 570 or 580 with 3 gigs noticed an improvement in the particle effects with the new fix, that is, the massive drop in fps when landing (dust) and when firing cannons (smoke/tracers)? Just curious. Good work, and looks like solid progress.

[furbs]

Did you configure it yourself or just use the defaults? I cant say that I have had any menu issues that I have seen, but I did make sure to go through and see what it decided to shut off and what it didnt...

I had left it as defaults, anything i should be looking for?

[SiThSpAwN]

I had left it as defaults, anything i should be looking for?


Well generally defaults are pretty safe, but I would start with stuff like make sure its not shutting off something related to your graphics card and such, I saw that it determined stuff it thought wasnt related to games maybe was.

I think with Gamebooster its better to go through and config yourself, there is alot of stuff it wont turn off that I think it should. Make sure you have the most up to date version to, as with everything...

good luck!

[=FI=Scott]

I'm seeing an improvement here on the micro stutters. CTD's are gone (I cannot get it to crash) but I still think they have got big issues with trees and Vsynch- the latter works but at a hell of a hit.

It is going in the right direction but plenty left to do- as it is this game engine just won't fly in a sim based on low level ground attack and defence.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Well generally defaults are pretty safe, but I would start with stuff like make sure its not shutting off something related to your graphics card and such, I saw that it determined stuff it thought wasnt related to games maybe was.

I think with Gamebooster its better to go through and config yourself, there is alot of stuff it wont turn off that I think it should.
GameBooster ver 3 is pretty modets in what it turns off.. So I agree, use the manual option and I am sure you will be able to turn off alot more. For example, Adobe loves to put things in your start up that sit there doing nothing but taking up mem. But be careful, if there is something running that you are not sure of best to leave it alone

All in all, even if you dont use GameBooster manual mode, it is interesting to at least use it to see all the stuff that is in there and running

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Why Gamebooster? I have been using that since I bought this sim with no issues?
Same here.. Have been using GameBooster since ver 1, it is a great little util

[ACE-OF-ACES]

I meant you Aces. But I think Furbs responded because he made the topic I was suggesting towards.
Ah ok

As for furbs, he had a post on HT stuff controled in the BIOS. Where as my post was in regards to 'other' software running and the use of GameBooster to 86 that 'other' stuff

[Blackdog_kt]

Has anyone with an nvidia gtx 570 or 580 with 3 gigs noticed an improvement in the particle effects with the new fix, that is, the massive drop in fps when landing (dust) and when firing cannons (smoke/tracers)? Just curious. Good work, and looks like solid progress.

The particle effect fix was not part of the alpha patch that is currently under testing.

It seems this patch was mostly about eliminating all the individual bugs that cause a CTD: we fly, we crash, we send them the log files, they look at them one by one and fix each issue.

I guess that once they sort out stability, they'll move on to specific areas of graphics that still cause performance issues.

[Flanker35M]

S!

When they get the graphics engine sorted out the game will be a blast to fly..and the sequels :) The direction is right at the moment as CTD's for most people are gone. I VERY rarely got them though.

[Majo]

Thank you!!!

Great improvement about CTDs with the mini-fix vs the original Patch Alpha.

I just wish it goes the same way for as many people as possible...

Many things come to my mind as what should be the next objective/s, so many inputs, so many things up the road.

IMHO clouds, smoke, fire, dust... that is "effects" handling improvement by the graphic engine is capital for the
air to air & air to ground combat experience.
Maybe not and some advances in the online performance, coop/mission design, map building, server features and
tools will strengthen the community.
Or maybe is offline environment where we want to push harder.
... some help (I mean 100 oct. fuel) for the spits that are having hard time.
Or maybe...

I am sure IL2bugtracker will help to sort out where the team will be able to add more value considering that
everything you do now for CloD will be returned to you in BoM.

The wheel of karma.:)

Salutes.

[NLS61]

S!

When they get the graphics engine sorted out the game will be a blast to fly..and the sequels :) The direction is right at the moment as CTD's for most people are gone. I VERY rarely got them though.

Well no i dint have to much ctd's before but now after the hot fix they are often and quick one after one an other.
so its not good for every body yet.
Before the main fix I dint encounter to much ctd's and had total smooth game play.
After the main fix firstly i could play for serveral hours and tought the problem was solved.
Then the first CTD occurred then the second and it was like a woman in labor they became more frequent and closer togheter.
Then the mini fix this looked ok for the first hour but hen the same situation occurd.
I'm sending logs and crashfiles to the developers until somwhere last night the mails were bounced.
Thats the situation for now.

cheers,

Niels

[SturmKreator]

For me the game is still broken, after the two beta patchs, the game still crash to desktop before I can play, this suck and need attention. I will hope they launch a stable patch fast without any bugs, I bougth the game after 1 year, and still cant play it? LOL

[Winger]

For me the game is still broken, after the two beta patchs, the game still crash to desktop before I can play, this suck and need attention. I will hope they launch a stable patch fast without any bugs, I bougth the game after 1 year, and still cant play it? LOL

Try reinstalling Net Framework 4.0 and then try to enter diffrent servers. The Frameworkinstallation fixed crashes that happened when trying to enter onlineservers for many of my squad.

Winger

[KG26_Alpha]

For me the game is still broken, after the two beta patchs, the game still crash to desktop before I can play, this suck and need attention. I will hope they launch a stable patch fast without any bugs, I bougth the game after 1 year, and still cant play it? LOL

Hi

Your post is like many seen here, please dont take this as an attack on you just that your an good example of someone posting here without any system specs or information for others to help you.

I would see no problem in deleting such posts as they are useless to everyone except for yourself or course letting some steam off :)

Would everyone please in future post more than "it still broke" so you can get help.

Thanks.

[Outlaw]

I'm seeing an improvement here on the micro stutters. CTD's are gone (I cannot get it to crash) but I still think they have got big issues with trees and Vsynch- the latter works but at a hell of a hit.


Vsync is, by definition, a frame rate limiter. It will reduce your frame rate to match the refresh rate of your display. If you can't max out the display refresh rate of your display with vsync off you won't max it out with vsync on.

--Outlaw.

[SturmKreator]

Try reinstalling Net Framework 4.0 and then try to enter diffrent servers. The Frameworkinstallation fixed crashes that happened when trying to enter onlineservers for many of my squad.

Winger

I cant even start the game, how can I choose a server?

[SturmKreator]

Hi

Your post is like many seen here, please dont take this as an attack on you just that your an good example of someone posting here without any system specs or information for others to help you.

I would see no problem in deleting such posts as they are useless to everyone except for yourself or course letting some steam off :)

Would everyone please in future post more than "it still broke" so you can get help.

Thanks.

My intention is not troll, just let it know to devs the patch is not ready and they have a lot to do until the launch the official patch.

[SiThSpAwN]

I cant even start the game, how can I choose a server?


Try the first part of his suggestion first ;)

[SturmKreator]

Try the first part of his suggestion first ;)

but he says this fix is only for online servers, I want to play offline, launch the game and CTD instantly, with the two fixes, btw my windows 7 is fresh clean, and updated, so framework problem is not

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

All running ok here.....I'm getting all the graphical bugs showing up,like the grass in hangars and the Hurricane steering column wires mixed up etc,as I guess everyone else is,but outside of that it all seems pretty good.

[Ataros]

but he says this fix is only for online servers, I want to play offline, launch the game and CTD instantly, with the two fixes, btw my windows 7 is fresh clean, and updated, so framework problem is not

Edit conf.ini to start game in a small window. In game change back to fullscreen mode, restart game.

Add system specs to your sig. Cards below gtx460 or gtx560 have issues in this patch.

[SturmKreator]

Ok, I delted the entire folder in my documents and now the game works, I dont know why

[JG52Uther]

It was probably corrupted.When you deleted the folder, and then started the game, steam rebuilt the file.
Good to see that you finally got it going.
You should put your system specs in your sig.

[SturmKreator]

It was probably corrupted.When you deleted the folder, and then started the game, steam rebuilt the file.
Good to see that you finally got it going.
You should put your system specs in your sig.

My pc specs are humble, so I can not enjoy the game.
amd250 x2 3.6 ghz
2gb ram ddr2
hd4850 @ catalyst 12.4
windows 7 32 bit

[bw_wolverine]

My pc specs are humble, so I can not enjoy the game.
amd250 x2 3.6 ghz
2gb ram ddr2
hd4850 @ catalyst 12.4

Of big importance is your OS. Are you running Windows XP or Vista / Windows 7?

[SturmKreator]

Of big importance is your OS. Are you running Windows XP or Vista / Windows 7?

updated

[chris455]

Has anyone with an nvidia gtx 570 or 580 with 3 gigs noticed an improvement in the particle effects with the new fix, that is, the massive drop in fps when landing (dust) and when firing cannons (smoke/tracers)? Just curious. Good work, and looks like solid progress.
I have a GTX 580 w 3 Gigs DDR5 VRAM. I have no noticeable change in FPS when landing or firing tracers. If I am flying in or very close to clouds w/ mirrors enabled, I get a big drop. But nowhere else that I have noticed.

[SiThSpAwN]

I have a GTX 580 w 3 Gigs DDR5 VRAM. I have no noticeable change in FPS when landing or firing tracers. If I am flying in or very close to clouds w/ mirrors enabled, I get a big drop. But nowhere else that I have noticed.

Clouds are not working as intended, I dont think that has changed since the release of the Alpha patch as stated in the patch notes. Where I can I turn them off.

What about explosions/fire/smoke? Do they cause slow downs for you?

[FFCW_Urizen]

You can turn clouds off in your difficulty settings or through mission settings (QMs only).
As for MP, the final decision rests with the serversettings. if the server has clouds enabled, they will be rendered on your end.

[bornflying79]

So, do we almost have a functional simulator that I should spend money on?

[skouras]

what about the lights on the gauges in the 110's
is always on
it is supposed to be like that...:confused:

[arthursmedley]

So, do we almost have a functional simulator that I should spend money on?

Almost. Perhaps best wait to see what the official patch turns out like.

[Insuber]

what about the lights on the gauges in the 110's
is always on
it is supposed to be like that...:confused:

What do you mean? One can toggle the instruments panel lighting on/off also in the 110.

[chris455]

Clouds are not working as intended, I dont think that has changed since the release of the Alpha patch as stated in the patch notes. Where I can I turn them off.

What about explosions/fire/smoke? Do they cause slow downs for you?
A very large explosion, such as the one when the airstrip is being hit early in the Black Death track, will choke me out for sure. Other ancillary explosions do not have a great effect at all.
Fire and smoke do not have a noticeable effect on my rig.
I believe you can disable clouds in one of the options screens before a QM; in the Mission Builder it is a rather obscure setting, but it is there.

[gonk]

hmm.... something here is not adding up.... One week they say the patch is almost ready and they have had no crashes for weeks... now they say thanks for the crash logs as they have BEEN having crashes they cannot fix... ??? What is it ? No crashes or crashes ??

Total graphic engine rewrite of 200+meg ? Lucky there is currently no competition for this genre' .

[skouras]

What do you mean? One can toggle the instruments panel lighting on/off also in the 110.
take a look on this video
look the gauges

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBmATCajOcs

[IvanK]

About 2 Patches ago the BF110 instruments took on a yellowish caste. Looks like Dust in behind the glass. Looks terrible.

[skouras]

im talking about the same..;)

[Insuber]

Ah OK the brownish color of the 110 panel. But the instruments are dark at night, and one must turn on the cockpit lighting, in my game at least :-)

Cheers!

[GraveyardJimmy]

Total graphic engine rewrite of 200+meg ?

The engine rewrite is code, not texture files etc. There is no reason for it to be a very large file. 200MB is the equivalent of 50,000 pages of text. Obviously there are sound files added amongst other things so it is not literally 50,000 pages of code!

[AKA_Tenn]

yep yep... textures, sounds, maps/models, and movies are the big bits...

[skouras]

:grin:Ah OK the brownish color of the 110 panel. But the instruments are dark at night, and one must turn on the cockpit lighting, in my game at least :-)

Cheers!

[Thr0tt]

Patch does nothing to the game, seems to me like I should have no reinstalled for this and left it in its dusty box like most the folk who bought it.

Will check back in another 6 months or 12 but really this is disgusting to release such a poor coded game, I will await the financial struggle in all countries excuse soon as to why they cannot fix it.

[SiThSpAwN]

Patch does nothing to the game, seems to me like I should have no reinstalled for this and left it in its dusty box like most the folk who bought it.

Will check back in another 6 months or 12 but really this is disgusting to release such a poor coded game, I will await the financial struggle in all countries excuse soon as to why they cannot fix it.

If the patch changes nothing for you... You are doing it wrong.

[ATAG_Doc]

Patch does nothing to the game, seems to me like I should have no reinstalled for this and left it in its dusty box like most the folk who bought it.

Will check back in another 6 months or 12 but really this is disgusting to release such a poor coded game, I will await the financial struggle in all countries excuse soon as to why they cannot fix it.

Run-on sentences 101 they just run-on and on and on and on and on. The patch did help me.

[BH_woodstock]

was wondering if i should re install beta or stay stock for the time being.Any clue when this might go official?

[icetbag]

was wondering if i should re install beta or stay stock for the time being.Any clue when this might go official?

I was in the same boat, and only took the plunge after the hotfix was released as I was intrigued by what I was reading (plus the ATAG beta-patch-hotfix server always had loads of people on it).

I havent bothered to compare FPS, but I will say that the game looks so much nicer for me, plus the biggest improvement is how much better/easier it is to spot planes and identify as friend or foe at a further distance.

Game runs smooth for me, but it did on before I installed the beta patch + hotfix.

There are however some graphical issues (seeing runway taxi lights via the cockpit) and sometimes the mirror pops up even when its disabled. Enjoying the game alot more now (plus I dont get a memory leak that caused my game to stutter to a crash).

[SEE]

The mirrors re-enable themselves with low res textures whenever my ac suffers some physical damage, even light damage seems to cause this. If I zoom in and out a few times the mirrors and textures return to normal and I can disable them.

[AKA_Tenn]

the mirrors don't re-enable themselves... its more like... instead of the damage texture, it shows the low-res mirror texture when u get hit... completely 2d flat mirror with no actual mirror... if you try to disable that 2d flat mirror, the 3d one pops up... then when u disable the 3d one the 2d one comes back... but i haven't been able to get rid of the mirror once i get hit and the 2d mirror shows up, my framerates take a hit and i gotta land it...

[JG14_Jagr]

Correct Tenn.. thats what happens for me..

[zerty95]

hi, the update still doesn't work for me :s

i can see it is updates by the numbers in the right corner, but when I try to play (for example: free flight in france) it loads, I can press fly and then i hear everything I do like increasing speed , bur I can't see anything. The screen shows my pc background :s

can somebody help me?

best regards
zerty95

[bravoalpha]

hi, the update still doesn't work for me :s

i can see it is updates by the numbers in the right corner, but when I try to play (for example: free flight in france) it loads, I can press fly and then i hear everything I do like increasing speed , bur I can't see anything. The screen shows my pc background :s

can somebody help me?

best regards
zerty95

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=426155&postcount=37
;)

[Taff in Exile]

hi, the update still doesn't work for me :s

i can see it is updates by the numbers in the right corner, but when I try to play (for example: free flight in france) it loads, I can press fly and then i hear everything I do like increasing speed , bur I can't see anything. The screen shows my pc background :s

can somebody help me?

best regards
zerty95

Hi Zerty...I had this also when I'd accidently changed my ingame screen resolution to one the monitor didn't support. Might be worth having a play with the resolution to see if the same thing.

[Momod]

I had the black screen red square on start up, switched to Psuedo screen mode and it dont occur anymore :grin:

[Duke88]

hi, the update still doesn't work for me :s

i can see it is updates by the numbers in the right corner, but when I try to play (for example: free flight in france) it loads, I can press fly and then i hear everything I do like increasing speed , bur I can't see anything. The screen shows my pc background :s

can somebody help me?

best regards
zerty95

I have the same issue and this appears because CloD isn't compatible yet with our GUIs (hence with our DX 10).
If you want to play with this game, you have to go in conf.ini file and editing the line renderD3D10_0 in renderD3D9, hit close and save! You will play at clod but you can't see the improvments of this patch (devs haven't put the DX9 support yet).
Bye :)

[SturmKreator]

its friday, why no update?

[DroopSnoot]

Has anyone posted this to the developers yet? This is a massive bug!

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=426155&postcount=37

[radman2012]

Description:
Stopped working

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: launcher.exe
Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 4d6e3d08
Problem Signature 04: maddox
Problem Signature 05: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 4fa4f711
Problem Signature 07: 4aa
Problem Signature 08: 8
Problem Signature 09: System.IO.FileNotFoundException
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057




Since installing the patch and min-patch I can't get the game to start, ctd, every time, get the above message...

[satchenko]

Any news BLACKSIX? Don´t cut the communications please.

[BlackSix]

Any news BLACKSIX? Don´t cut the communications please.

I have no news now.

[Luftwaffepilot]

I have no news now.

Please, Blacksix,

There's only one case in which you wouldn't be able to give information about progress and that is when Maddox Games hasn't done anything since last update. Otherwise there has to be something to tell.

[bucsher]

I have no news now.

thanks for the info ;)

[Continu0]

Please, Blacksix,

There's only one case in which you wouldn't be able to give information about progress and that is when Maddox Games hasn't done anything since last update. Otherwise there has to be something to tell.

He is the community-manager, but I don´t think, he decides on official updates. And if there is no official update, what should he post?
No news means that they are working but don´t have anything achieved that is unusual...:cool:

Thank you for the news B6!

[GF_Mastiff]

No News is good news, as we say here in the states.

[_YoYo_]

Ok, I know, now not clouds or in very close distance but it will be possible to add only Cirrus clods in next beta/alpha 1.06 if the rest of clouds isnt finished?
No fps impact.

http://yoyosims.pl/sites/default/files/Obrazki/CoD/CoD_15950_25.jpg

[Thee_oddball]

Description:
Stopped working

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: launcher.exe
Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 4d6e3d08
Problem Signature 04: maddox
Problem Signature 05: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 4fa4f711
Problem Signature 07: 4aa
Problem Signature 08: 8
Problem Signature 09: System.IO.FileNotFoundException
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057




Since installing the patch and min-patch I can't get the game to start, ctd, every time, get the above message...

right click on launcher.exe as run as admin

[MegOhm]

Also disabling hyperthreading will result in cooler cpu core temps as well.

Maybe true but probably un-necessary...We should not have to do any of these things to run a game on a decent system.

I don't and have no issues... since they fixed the Freezes and CTD... I am up to 8 hours flight time Hosting missions and joining other servers... Never leaving the game...never clearing Cache/Shaders etc. with no freezes and Zero CTDs... Halleluja!!!

[laBonj]

Can somebody post a working link the mini fix? When I click the 'core' attachment it says the file is damaged :/ Hope you guys can help!

[laBonj]

Ahh it's cool now.. Changed browser and it worked fine. Strange! The patch makes a hell of a difference!