FPS solution that's worked for me.

[PotNoodles]

My FPS are worse since I installed the Alpha patch I am getting a drop of 5 FPS overall and 10 FPS loss then before if i fly through a cloud. My system Specs are below. Any ideas?

Geforce 680 GTX
i7 930, Overclocked to 4.0
Raptor HD
6 gig Ram
Motherboard Gigabyte X58A

[ACE-OF-ACES]

My FPS are worse since I installed the Alpha patch I am getting a drop of 5 FPS overall and 10 FPS loss then before if i fly through a cloud. My system Specs are below. Any ideas?

Geforce 680 GTX
i7 930, Overclocked to 4.0
Raptor HD
4 gig Ram
Motherboard Gigabyte X58A
For those who do not have a 'dedicated' gaming PC.. As in your may have 'other' uses and 'other' software installed.. You may want to give this util a try

http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html

In that it will optimize your PC for those who don't know how to optimize thier PC.. It turns off alot of background stuff that 'may' be the cause of why you with your hardware is getting less FPS than someone else with the same hardware

[Meusli]

My FPS are worse since I installed the Alpha patch I am getting a drop of 5 FPS overall and 10 FPS loss then before if i fly through a cloud. My system Specs are below. Any ideas?

Geforce 680 GTX
i7 930, Overclocked to 4.0
Raptor HD
4 gig Ram
Motherboard Gigabyte X58A

Do you have hyper-threading on?

[PotNoodles]

For those who do not have a 'dedicated' gaming PC.. As in your may have 'other' uses and 'other' software installed.. You may want to give this util a try

http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html

In that it will optimize your PC for those who don't know how to optimize thier PC.. It turns off alot of background stuff that 'may' be the cause of why you with your hardware is getting less FPS than someone else with the same hardware

I have all this on already Ace, but are you saying my computer is not a dedicated gaming PC? Did you look at the spec of my comp? That card alone cost me £500 last week, it's the latest card from Nvidia.

[PotNoodles]

Do you have hyper-threading on?

Where do I look for hyper -threading to see if it's switch on?

[JG52Krupi]

Where do I look for hyper -threading to see if it's switch on?

When your loading your pc go into the bios, its in there. Its different from one motherboard make to another so google your MB and hyperthreading.

[PotNoodles]

When your loading your pc go into the bios, its in there. Its different from one motherboard make to another so google your MB and hyperthreading.

Multi Threading which is also Hyper Threading is Enabled. Can you tell me if this is this the correct setting?

[JG52Krupi]

Multi Threading which is also Hyper Threading is Enabled. Can you tell me if this is this the correct setting?

Yeah I am pretty sure mine was called Multi Threading as well, do you have a Gigabyte MB?

[robtek]

Also 4GB ram is way less the the amount i would use in a gaming rig!!!

[PotNoodles]

Yeah I am pretty sure mine was called Multi Threading as well, do you have a Gigabyte MB?

I have the same board as you, is yours enabled or disabled? What does it do?

@robtek 4gig is fine and you would lose the overclock if you add more then 4 gig.

[Meusli]

I have the same board as you, is yours enabled or disabled? What does it do?

@robtek 4gig is fine and you would lose the overclock if you add more then 4 gig.

Well I got told to disable hyper-threading as this sim does not like false "cores". Disable it and tell us how you get on, it worked better for me.

[PotNoodles]

Well I got told to disable hyper-threading as this sim does not like false "cores". Disable it and tell us how you get on, it worked better for me.

Worked an absolute treat! Before I was getting stuttering and 35 - 60 FPS, but now I get 55 -60 FPS and far less stuttering. I also disabled CPU TM Support because I just been reading something on an overclock site. I am also using Gamebooster.This Hyperthreading should be a sticky because it works.

[Meusli]

Worked an absolute treat! Before I was getting stuttering and 35 - 60 FPS, but now I get 55 -60 FPS and far less stuttering. I also disabled CPU TM Support because I just been reading something on an overclock site. I am also using Gamebooster.This Hyperthreading should be a sticky because it works.

Brilliant, now you can enjoy. :)

[PotNoodles]

I was getting really quite frustrated with this game because I have a good specs computer, but tonight with the help of some good Samaritans on here, I have finally fixed my FPS issues. The solution for me was to turn off Hyper-threading in the Bios and I disabled turbo boost. I also run Gamebooster that stop background programs you don't want running. Before I did this I was getting bad stuttering and my frames were a constant 30 - 60 FPS up and down. Now with the new setting I get 55 -60 FPS most of the time and far less stuttering. My system spec is listed below, I hope this helps someone else because I'm pleased that some people helped me out with this.

Quadcore i7 930, overclocked 4.0ghz
4gig ram
Geforce 680GTX
Raptor HD
Gigabyte X58A

[PotNoodles]

Brilliant, now you can enjoy. :)

I certainly can.. Thanks to all for the help!! Will this work with all games where I will have a boost now?

[jamesdietz]

I was getting really quite frustrated with this game because I have a good specs computer, but tonight with the help of some good Samaritans on here, I have finally fixed my FPS issues. The solution for me was to turn off Hyper-threading in the Bios and I disabled turbo boost. I also run Gamebooster that stop background programs you don't want running. Before I did this I was getting bad stuttering and my frames were a constant 30 - 60 FPS up and down. Now with the new setting I get 55 -60 FPS most of the time and far less stuttering. My system spec is listed below, I hope this helps someone else because I'm pleased that some people helped me out with this.

Quadcore i7 930, overclocked 4.0ghz
4gig ram
Geforce 680GTX
Raptor HD
Gigabyte X58A

Hyperthreading? Turboboost where do I find these to disable them? HELP! Getting 8-20 FPS and its driving me mad...Game Booster didn't help...

[Jaws2002]

In one of the older versions i tried that. It didn't work for me. But here's the question. Why disable HT when they said they just improved it it in this beta?

[ECV56_LeChuck]

HT must be disabled on i7 for any type of game

[CWMV]

I never turned it off and never had any issues with FPS. Usually averaged 50FPS + online and off with HT/boost on.
But hey whatever works!
EDIT: i7 2600K @ 4.0ghz/GTX580 1.5gb/8 gigs ram, etc...

[von Pilsner]

Why disable HT when they said they just improved it it in this beta?

Hyperthreading is not quite the same as multithreading (which is what hey mentioned, I believe), but if this works it's good news for the Intel crowd.

[Insuber]

Great I'm happy that it works for you Pot. It's not my case thou, I've never activated HT and I've many more CTDs than before.
BTW I would hardly call an "optimization" to disable HT.

Cheers!

[senseispcc]

Hypertreading is part of the CPU working flow so you should find it in the bios but do not be suprized is with yours motherboard you cannot disable it.:cool:

[Untamo]

Hyperthreading? Turboboost where do I find these to disable them? HELP! Getting 8-20 FPS and its driving me mad...Game Booster didn't help...

You can do it in BIOS setup, which you can enter usually with Delete(or numpad Del.. or F1.. depends on motherboard :) ) key in the first screen (aka "POST" screen) that appears when you start your computer. Consult your motherboard manual or the infinite wisdom of Google ;) to find the right menu.

[Meusli]

This only works with the i7 range of CPU's, they only contain 4 cores but each core has two threads. It is great for certain operations but for most games it can have a detrimental effect as they are not proper "cores".

[Stublerone]

Right, but I wonder, why you buy expensive stuff and do not know the essentials, PotNoodles?

HT, Speedstep, TM and so on can all be issues for bad OC results and hick ups of your cpu.

But as I see on your 680 and your 4GB Ram (which should be at least 6 or better with your video card 8 and more GB), you are not well prepared, but already overclocked your rig. That is strange amd it seems, that you just pulled some sliders in the bios to 4 GHz and not read an overclocking guide for your specific cpu and its stepping/revision/serial number.

You should invest some minutes for your OC, because you are currently running without knowing, what actually happens to your system. Not that you soon get a destroyed system, because it is running on bad settings for its lifetime.

Just a tipp! :)

[Wolf_Rider]

Did you look at the spec of my comp?



What spec? why isn't it your signature? where it would be a more effective place to list it




@robtek 4gig is fine and you would lose the overclock if you add more then 4 gig.




No it isn't and no you don't ... how many meg does your mobo System Reserve memory RAM to?


and usually, the first things turned off for an effective overclock are turbo_boost, C1E, speed stepping and core parking

[Ze-Jamz]

What spec? why isn't it your signature? where it would be a more effective place to list it

Hes revering to his first post which was then answered..might just be me but i see his spec clear as day..

[Wolf_Rider]

chill dude

[Anders_And]

Pootnoodles there is some evidence that hyperthreading should be turned OFF for gaming. Alot of games stutter with hyperthreading enabled. Turn it off and start up CLOD and compare. Although i would personally thing that its only down to bad coding of CLOD.
I have a constant FPS of 60 which is my screen refresh rate but i still have stutters with a clnstant FPS so its not the CPU or the GPU just bad coding...

Pootnoodles check these threads out about hyperthreading in other games:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=215116

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1325010&mpage=1

Edit: haha i guess i should finish to the last page before answering... i see that im a bit late with my suggestion :)

[PotNoodles]

Right, but I wonder, why you buy expensive stuff and do not know the essentials, PotNoodles?

HT, Speedstep, TM and so on can all be issues for bad OC results and hick ups of your cpu.

But as I see on your 680 and your 4GB Ram (which should be at least 6 or better with your video card 8 and more GB), you are not well prepared, but already overclocked your rig. That is strange amd it seems, that you just pulled some sliders in the bios to 4 GHz and not read an overclocking guide for your specific cpu and its stepping/revision/serial number.

You should invest some minutes for your OC, because you are currently running without knowing, what actually happens to your system. Not that you soon get a destroyed system, because it is running on bad settings for its lifetime.

Just a tipp! :)

Can I just say that is where you are completely wrong! This overclock is done by proper Techs and was sold to me ready overclocked by a well established firm. I was told that if I add more then 4 gig of Ram that I would lose the overclock and it's funny how I have never had a freeze or shut down which would indicate it had been badly overclocked. I have read all about Hyper threading since discovering about it and now I know it's better to have it switched off. Well in my case it must be because it's vastly improved my FPS and my cores are all at low temps because I monitor them with with core Temp. Not one core is above 46c. So where again is this overclock done badly?

Edit: I have noticed that turning TM support back on I still get FPS so this is all to do with the Hyperthreading been disabled.

[JG52Krupi]

Tbh I have neverheard of adding ram ruining an overclock seems foolish to me, have a word with tree or Phat they seem to be this forums resident supercomputer builders.

[JG52Uther]

PotNoodles did you get your system from OCUK? Its just that they do say that adding more ram can affect the overclock on their overclocked bundles. That could be more to do with the way they set them up though, ram voltages etc.

[PotNoodles]

PotNoodles did you get your system from OCUK? Its just that they do say that adding more ram can affect the overclock on their overclocked bundles. That could be more to do with the way they set them up though, ram voltages etc.

No I got it from CCL computers. Would you say 4 gig ram isn't enough because I am told it is enough for all games, but I am willing to listen to any advice.

[JG52Uther]

I have 4 GB's it works fine for me. My next system will have 8 though. Ram is cheap now, so I would recommend at least 2 x 4GB.
With the desastersoft addon I think they are recommending 12 GB!

[JG52Krupi]

I think 6gb is enough 8gb is perfect anymore is only useful ATM if you are doing video editing etc.

[vranac]

Can I just say that is where you are completely wrong! This overclock is done by proper Techs and was sold to me ready overclocked by a well established firm. I was told that if I add more then 4 gig of Ram that I would lose the overclock and it's funny how I have never had a freeze or shut down which would indicate it had been badly overclocked. I have read all about Hyper threading since discovering about it and now I know it's better to have it switched off. Well in my case it must be because it's vastly improved my FPS and my cores are all at low temps because I monitor them with with core Temp. Not one core is above 46c. So where again is this overclock done badly?

Edit: I have noticed that turning TM support back on I still get FPS so this is all to do with the Hyperthreading been disabled.

That "proper tech" doesn't know what he is talkin about.

First you have 3 channel memory controler,and you have 4 GB of RAM.
Is it 2x2 GB or 4x1 GB ? In any case you are losing something, more in the first case , and for second case I'm not shure, haven't played with i7.
But in any case proper setup for this platform is 3x(what you can afford) GB of RAM.

Second. It is true when you overclock i7 930 you have to raise your base clock, and that will raise RAM frequency also, but you have thing called memory divider ( if it is at least midrange board) in your BIOS settings.

Overclock is not bad by the way.

I'm glad that you solved the problem.

[PotNoodles]

That "proper tech" doesn't know what he is talkin about.

First you have 3 channel memory controler,and you have 4 GB of RAM.
Is it 2x2 GB or 4x1 GB ? In any case you are losing something, more in the first case , and for second case I'm not shure, haven't played with i7.
But in any case proper setup for this platform is 3x(what you can afford) GB of RAM.

Second. It is true when you overclock i7 930 you have to raise your base clock, and that will raise RAM frequency also, but you have thing called memory divider ( if it is at least midrange board) in your BIOS settings.

Overclock is not bad by the way.

I stand corrected because I have just run Dxdiag and found that I do have 6 gig of Ram. I have 3x2 sticks so except my apologies for the slight misunderstanding.

[JG52Uther]

Oops missed that! Thats why its good to put your system specs in your sig!
3x2GB should be OK, next upgrade would be 3x4GB. You would be looking at around £90 to double your ram to 12Gb currently.

[Stublerone]

@ PotNoodles: I just wanted to say, that it could be badly oc'ed. As u state about professional: They perhaps just spent some seconds for you in the BIOS to get a higher price(?) You never know... :)

The 4GB thinh sounds very strange to me. Who will buy such a rig with so few RAM? And then you have a video card, which is performing good, but is totally old fashioned concerning memory. Several guys posted about the great videi card, but the guys, who have some negative concerns about it were not heard.

If you are running CloD at 1920x1080 with high settings, you should see, that video memory gets full! I personally have up to 2,7 GB video ram usage and the normal ram also has some jobs to do.

Just want to say, that the decision to buy a more expensive video card with lowered or no support of some keyfeatures of todays standard cards is also a decision of your own. I do personally (as a nvidia fanboy) NOT recommend to buy the 680, if you want to use it a bit longer than 1 year or less.

Streaming engines could get more and more important for complex games with large areas. So, this methods and better textures, etc. will be the main thing = higher VRam is recommended in future. This is my opinion.

I like nvidia and was positively surprised of its performance, but after detailed discussions and reading lots of reviews, I finally came to the conclusion, that the hd 7970 is the better card for me (multi monitor and sim games with high memory usage....). Although I hate catalyst drivers. :)

[PotNoodles]

@ PotNoodles: I just wanted to say, that it could be badly oc'ed. As u state about professional: They perhaps just spent some seconds for you in the BIOS to get a higher price(?) You never know... :)

The 4GB thinh sounds very strange to me. Who will buy such a rig with so few RAM? And then you have a video card, which is performing good, but is totally old fashioned concerning memory. Several guys posted about the great videi card, but the guys, who have some negative concerns about it were not heard.

If you are running CloD at 1920x1080 with high settings, you should see, that video memory gets full! I personally have up to 2,7 GB video ram usage and the normal ram also has some jobs to do.

Just want to say, that the decision to buy a more expensive video card with lowered or no support of some keyfeatures of todays standard cards is also a decision of your own. I do personally (as a nvidia fanboy) NOT recommend to buy the 680, if you want to use it a bit longer than 1 year or less.

Streaming engines could get more and more important for complex games with large areas. So, this methods and better textures, etc. will be the main thing = higher VRam is recommended in future. This is my opinion.

I like nvidia and was positively surprised of its performance, but after detailed discussions and reading lots of reviews, I finally came to the conclusion, that the hd 7970 is the better card for me (multi monitor and sim games with high memory usage....). Although I hate catalyst drivers. :)

I already stated I made a mistake with the Ram! I have 6 gig and will put my spec in sig in future. This card is quicker then your card for the time been and in 2 years time I will buy another with more Vram. I could have bought a Palit Geforce with 4gig but I decided on this for it's overclock. I am sure this card will last me longer then a year lol.

[Stublerone]

I saw it :) 6 GB is enough at the moment.

But I do not want to discuss, which card is faster. Over all games with both fully overclocked to a speed, where nearly all serial production models of both cards are able to reach and with 1680x1050 and even 1920x1080, both cards are fighting closely. So it is not faster than mine or mine is not faster than yours.

But I have a card which bust your card at higher res. As I will run CloD on triple 27" monitors soon, the ati is my shot.

And missing BIOS entries for new pci-e speed, the lag of gpgpu units and the memory, which is to low for high end and for CloD causes me to buy the ati. For that price, they are currently just getting some new customers not aware of the current market. Your buy is nott wrong, but with such a price and officially stated lack of some normal features (this card is shrinked in its features) is just to show a good alternative to the ati card, until they will introduce the big kepler.

So, u nearly buy 3/4 of a graphics card for the money of 1 1/4 of a same performing alternative. I personally do not want to do that.

[jamesdietz]

For those who do not have a 'dedicated' gaming PC.. As in your may have 'other' uses and 'other' software installed.. You may want to give this util a try

http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html

In that it will optimize your PC for those who don't know how to optimize thier PC.. It turns off alot of background stuff that 'may' be the cause of why you with your hardware is getting less FPS than someone else with the same hardware

Ace of Aces- I've tried gamebooster varients over time & had no real luck boosting speed BUT what has happened is that it has played tricks by putting my PC into sleep mode after about 5 minutes of non-use & then after doing this repeatedly over the course of a day ,stops PC completely with a blank screen,& requires me to go thru a series of reboots to get the PC up & operating again.To stop all this nonsense & must do a system restore.Now,of course it could just be a glitch in my PC setup , but I do wonder if othrs have experienced similar problems & overcome them when they set up this neat utility?

[Wolf_Rider]

Perhaps you could post up your specs (incl Op. Sys), so we could take a look at see what may be causing your grief?

[jamesdietz]

Perhaps you could post up your specs (incl Op. Sys), so we could take a look at see what may be causing your grief?

Is this adequate?
[Display]
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-bit (Service Pack 1)
DirectX version: 11.0
GPU processor: GeForce 9800 GT
Driver version: 295.73
DirectX support: 10
CUDA Cores: 112
Core clock: 600 MHz
Shader clock: 1500 MHz
Memory clock: 900 MHz (1800 MHz data rate)
Memory interface: 256-bit
Total available graphics memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated video memory: 1024 MB GDDR3
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 3071 MB
Video BIOS version: 62.92.24.00.80
IRQ: 16
Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen2

[Components]

easyDaemonAPIU64.DLL 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
WLMerger.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
daemonu.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
ComUpdatus.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
NvUpdtr.dll 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
NvUpdt.dll 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
nvui.dll 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdsync.exe 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdplcy.dll 8.17.12.9573 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdbat.dll 8.17.12.9573 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdapix.dll 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
NVCPL.DLL 8.17.12.9573 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvCplUI.exe 4.3.790.0 NVIDIA Control Panel
nvWSS.dll 6.14.12.9573 NVIDIA Workstation Server
nvViTvS.dll 6.14.12.9573 NVIDIA Video Server
NVSTVIEW.EXE 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Photo Viewer
NVSTTEST.EXE 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Test Application
NVSTRES.DLL 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Module (0)
NVMCTRAY.DLL 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA Media Center Library
nvDispS.dll 6.14.12.9573 NVIDIA Display Server
PhysX 09.12.0213 NVIDIA PhysX
NVCUDA.DLL 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA CUDA 4.1.1 driver
nvGameS.dll 6.14.12.9573 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server

[Wolf_Rider]

The 9800GT is probably getting a bit light these days...
but, what is your motherboard, processor, soundcard, how much memory is installed and how much RAM is on your 9800GT, etc?

[Topo]

Disable Hyperthread do the trick for me also:
Less stuttering and more fps on my i7-920@3.6ghz.

Thanks!

[jamesdietz]

Disable Hyperthread do the trick for me also:
Less stuttering and more fps on my i7-920@3.6ghz.

Thanks!

How ( FOR A PC ILLITERATE?)

[PotNoodles]

How ( FOR A PC ILLITERATE?)

It's in the bios pressing delete as you start your Pc. Mine was in advanced frequency setting and then Advanced core setting, it was under Multithreading, but if you have it yours might just say Hyperthreading or it could be the same as mine.

[steppie]

How i fixed my frame rate problem.

well i had huge problem frame rate get down as low as fps1.

i also notice i was get nivida driver problem from the time added the first update.
so i down load a new driver and and still had the same problem.
even try the new deta driver and still had problem with fps and driver problems.

After check on the net there could be an problem with its installation with drivers.

so i went to window uninstaller and start to remove anythng that had nivida i a hope to get a clean install.
leaving the video driver to last i uninstalled it and did the restart and it just happen just by luck window notice that i don't have a video drive and started to find one and down load and install it.
What drive it installed i don't know but what i do know for the game it work like a charm and getting the best fps i have ever had with an average of fps 53 and when dog fight with a 109 with flake the the game don't get below fps 16 and this is a big difference to what i had before.
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[adonys]

6 GB of RAM is not enough for any game in Win7.

Though, I've found out that even 8 are not enough, if you are disabling your pagefile and have 40 Chrome tabs running underneath.

With 16BG though, I haven't got yet any system memory low warning.. yet :)

Hyperthreading is an Intel technology which add a virtual core on each processor's real core. The result is tat it is doubling the cores, but that's not too ok for unoptimized multicore applications. Clustering a real and a virtual core running on same core, and leaving other real cores unloaded will lead to performance loss. Usuallu, the operating system is the one which should do all this job, and split the requests amongst the real cores first, but it never worked fine in intensive applications. And there are no applications, or very few, which are managing their load on different cores by themselves.