Foo'bar banned

[Mexxoft]

Dear community,

when I wanted to see today in the early morning after the news in the official 1C forum, I had to find out that I have been banned for the next two months. One takes amiss of it me that I had dared the day before to leave a melancholy comment in an already older thread.

What is no big thing under normal circumstances, seems to have provided in view of the at the moment ruling excitement for a considerable mess among the forum visitors and prompted my highly respected mod collegues to hectic actionism. Obviously my contribution has provided for so a lot of confusion and restlessness under blind and unreflective after the hotly desired patch craving leisure pilots that one felt exciting to have to lock out even a honorable and long-standing Additional 3D Developer from Cliffs of Dover about for a long time from this forum.

Now, I take the affair with humor and will use my suddenly gotten spare time to create high-class railroad and building models also furthermore, for public good here in the Il-2 community, even for those which had demanded so energetically my distance from the 1C forum.

In the end, we want everything only one thing: the best combat flight simulator.

And now, mods, feel free to ban even this second account for having multiple ones. This will be my first and last post with Mexxoft identity.

See you in two months. I have to work. For you. Check for regularly updates at Foo'blog.

Foo'bar aka Mexxoft aka Peter F. Schaller
Additional 3D Developer for Il-2 Sturmovik Series.

PS: Please excuse this rather bad translation, it would be easier to me to express myself in my native language.

PSPS: If somebody has downloaded an old patch because of me, has installed and has destroyed his well-oiled CloD installation with it, then I'm honestly sorry. This wasn't my intention - although some new habitants of my increased ignore list seem to know exactly what my intentions were.

[Kongo-Otto]

Had to make a screen shot just for historic purposes.
OK Forum KGB you can delete the thread now. :rolleyes:

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Don't worry your pretty little head about it mate,life goes on,in a few days time your antics will be forgotten,and so will you,move on.

[Madfish]

Foo, Mexx - not sure how many accounts I have but some got banned in the kil- eh moderation spree. Since you need an account to view attachments you should always have a new one ready though.

Now that we have moderators who promote ignore lists and actually use them themselves (not sure how they're able to moderate using ignore lists...) it makes me wonder what the staff defines as "moderate" and "moderation" anyways. But I guess there's just no one better around willing to do the job.

The irony is that there's simply no real "care" taking place. I mentioned a long time ago that tons of useless threads are pinned. Much of the confusion, which obviously even resulted in bannings, could've been avoided by actually cleaning old stickies, adjusting thread names properly and only sticking the IMPORTANT and NEW posts. And gathering up rules and infraction info and ignore list how-to's and other "important" messages in in one simple sticky post.

Only time will tell if we will ever see a forum index that doesn't require a monitor in portrait mode to actually see the threads and not just stickies... :D

[mazex]

Like I posted here:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=416289&postcount=23

I'm not in favor of you being banned as one of the few here that actually has participated in making CloD the stepping stone for future children that will get a better birth than their mother!

S! /Mazex

P.S But it was a bit childish - and you know it ;) Me and most of the regular forum members here have done a lot more childish stuff here though :)

[major_setback]

Moderators, Foo'bar developed the train models and some of the buildings modelled in CoD.
Please lift the ban. It's important we don't lose the developers of this game!

Foo'bar - We'll wake you in 2 months :-)

[SiThSpAwN]

Forums have rules...

[Thee_oddball]

Had to make a screen shot just for historic purposes.
OK Forum KGB you can delete the thread now. :rolleyes:

not KGB...more like commissar (political officer) they are just here to make sure you are in good standings with the "party" :-P

[Thee_oddball]

Forums have rules...

ummm no...forums have suggestions ...Physics has rules/laws ;)

[FS~Phat]

It's unfortunate that you chose to bring back an old thread like that when it would have been more appropriate to create a new thread stating the same fact.

It wasn't what you said it was that you brought back an old thread at a time when everyone is on edge about a pending beta.

I am disppointed that I had to ban you but it was appropriate, if it were anyone else they would have been equally treated, especially since the intent was taken as malicious whether intended or not, the damage was done to innocent users installations. You used very poor judgement and must pay the price.

I appreciate what youve done for the il2 community but this was not a minor infraction and we all need to be kept to the standard we want to maintain regardless of our position in the community.

In sincerity all the best in your projects until you return, and we look forward to your return with better judgement on what passes as humor in the future.

[Kongo-Otto]

Foo'bar - We'll wake you in 2 months :-)

*cough* Hey Foo over there at ROF they also could use a few better Trains. ;) *cough*

[GOA_Potenz]

Mods are censoring many posts and comments lately, seems that they are afraid what people thinks...

[SiThSpAwN]

Mods are censoring many posts and comments lately, seems that they are afraid what people thinks...


Everyone knows what everyone thinks, no need to have a forum filled with 10,000 similar and redundant posts.... mods are doing an decent job all things considered...

[PzMeyer]

FS-Member is moderating......lol....they like to use the banhamer if you think different.
He got banned for pulling out an old thread...common he is a developer and has done so many good stuff for IL series.


seriously, you receive cash for every ban?



lol feel free to ban me too if you feel better then

[philip.ed]

I will state this shortly and simply.

Foo'bar was banned for apparent 'malicious intent' and when it was clear this wasn't present the reason given was that he caused damage to user's systems.

So damage was done (apparently).

We have moderators who use ignore lists, and thus don't moderate efficiently or effectively, and clearly lack the unbiased, separate nature a moderator is required to have.

Hence damage is done, and will continue to be done.

I struggle to see the difference, especially when one is clearly intentional.

Please not as well: there is no suggestion here that the moderators are inefficient (so no grounds to get me into trouble) but rather my realistic perception that such a lack of objectiveness and fairness will always reap poor results.

-Thank you.

[Chivas]

You've been foobar'd. Anyway its unfortunate as I don't believe there was any malicious intent involved.

[badfinger]

I will state this shortly and simply.

Foo'bar was banned for apparent 'malicious intent' and when it was clear this wasn't present the reason given was that he caused damage to user's systems.

So damage was done (apparently).

We have moderators who use ignore lists, and thus don't moderate efficiently or effectively, and clearly lack the unbiased, separate nature a moderator is required to have.

Hence damage is done, and will continue to be done.

I struggle to see the difference, especially when one is clearly intentional.

Please not as well: there is no suggestion here that the moderators are inefficient (so no grounds to get me into trouble) but rather my realistic perception that such a lack of objectiveness and fairness will always reap poor results.

-Thank you.

Two thoughts:

1) Whatever his intent, it is the result that matters.

2) "I didn't know the gun was loaded" is not a viable defense.

He got what he deserved, even if he didn't think about the consequences of his actions.

It might have been a good joke, at some other time. But yesterday was not that time.

binky9

[Kongo-Otto]

Everyone knows what everyone thinks, no need to have a forum filled with 10,000 similar and redundant posts.... mods are doing an decent job all things considered...

http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Frech/smilie_frech_046.gif

[JG52Krupi]

I was a bit pissed when I heard you were banned Foo'bar, I found it very disrespectful that a person who has contributed a lot of there own time (certainly a lot more than 99.9% of the other "fans") and is a supporter of the game was treated quite harshly.

Anyway see you in a few months dude and thanks for producing the awesome train models for COD they really are a piece of art I have a lot of respect for the work you have done.

What really is a slap in the face is that its clear for anyone that has a even half a brain cell is that you have done little to deserve a ban over 3/4 of the ppl that currently post on these forums have done more to deserve a ban than you have... such a same.

[JG52Krupi]

Foo'bar should be unbanned immediately, there is not a single poster on these forums that has done more for the game than he has if anyone has a right to moan about anything it's him he clearly spent a lot of time working on models for this game and from what I have seen he has had little to no respect from the users or 1C for all his efforts... such a shame.

P.S. I could name 100 users on this forum that have done more damage on these forums for "supporting" the devs than he has... a single unfortunate post and he is banned!!! Luthier, B6 you should intervene in this!

[5./JG27.Farber]

Meh, use your head, dont try and upset people. You bumped an old thread about a patch. Everyone is waiting for a patch. You thought it was funny... This is funnier! :-P

[robtek]

He definitely didn't deserve the ban.

People have to be responsible for their actions, he didn't do anything wrong, it's the act first-think later crowd which got what they deserved.

[JG52Krupi]

Meh, use your head, dont try and upset people. You bumped an old thread about a patch. Everyone is waiting for a patch. You thought it was funny... This is funnier! :-P

**** that he clearly didn't mean to upset ppl and if he did, tbh, he has more right to stir the pot than 99.99999% of the posters here.

[VO101_Tom]

He definitely didn't deserve the ban.

People have to be responsible for their actions, he didn't do anything wrong, it's the act first-think later crowd which got what they deserved.

+1
True.

[BH_woodstock]

Lift the ban!! no harm was done,nothing was hurt but pride.I'f we didnt have a sence of humor we would have given up on CloD a long time ago. To ban a longstanding member of this community such as Foo'bar is ludacris.

[Ailantd]

All these old threads about patches should have been locked systematicaly after their value period by moderators a lot of time ago to prevent this kind of jokes and missunderstandings that are becoming more and more frequent.

[Ctrl E]

Truely this project has reached the end of the road when people who actually developed sections of it are being banned from the forum.

1c should be ashamed of themseves for the way this game was released and subsequently managed.

[banned]

All these old threads about patches should have been locked systematicaly after their value period by moderators a lot of time ago to prevent this kind of jokes and missunderstandings that are becoming more and more frequent.
I agree mate. I placed a post, just recently, saying the same thing however it was ignored.
I can't understand why all update threads aren't locked. Every single time an update thread appears, whether it contains a Beta or Patch, there is a standard reply to it. For the first 3 or so pages we get to read 'Thank You Devs', then after that there is another 20 pages of members arguing with each other. I don't see the point.
Why can't someone open a 'Thank You' Devs thread outside the Update thread.
If this simple thing was done then we wouldn't be in this position.
Luither/Blacksix - Please, please, please lock your update thread, even if there is no Beta or Patch contained in them.

Seems pretty simple to me.

[JG52Krupi]

I agree mate. I placed a post, just recently, saying the same thing however it was ignored.
I can't understand why all update threads are locked. Every single time an update thread appears, whether it contains a Beta or Patch, there is a standard reply to it. For the first 3 or so pages we get to read 'Thank You Devs', then after that there is another 20 pages of members arguing with each other. I don't see the point.
Why can't someone open a 'Thank You' Devs thread outside the Update thread.
If this simple thing was done then we wouldn't be in this position.
Luither/Blacksix - Please, please, please lock your update thread, even if there is no Beta or Patch contained in them.

Seems pretty simple to me.

Agreed!

[tarks]

It does not matter who you think you are Foo'Bar , you screw about and you get banned like the rest of us.

[BH_woodstock]

It does not matter who you think you are Foo'Bar , you screw about and you get banned like the rest of us.

sounds like you have been banned a few times.

[Ailantd]

I agree mate. I placed a post, just recently, saying the same thing however it was ignored.
I can't understand why all update threads aren't locked. Every single time an update thread appears, whether it contains a Beta or Patch, there is a standard reply to it. For the first 3 or so pages we get to read 'Thank You Devs', then after that there is another 20 pages of members arguing with each other. I don't see the point.
Why can't someone open a 'Thank You' Devs thread outside the Update thread.
If this simple thing was done then we wouldn't be in this position.
Luither/Blacksix - Please, please, please lock your update thread, even if there is no Beta or Patch contained in them.

Seems pretty simple to me.

I think I remember in the nice old days with Oleg updates, they had a locked thread for the updates and patches and another one for comments. That was a nice way to do it.

[tarks]

I think I got banned before the infractions all came into place.

[Stublerone]

I am really sorry, but if I see guys downloading without looking, than it is their fault. As I read the post yesterday, I directly saw, that is 1 year old.

I cannot understand such guys now whining, that there was serious damage as result. Again sorry, but do you never open your eyes before downloading and installing? Ooooooomg

And the best: Most of the pilots here do not any guy of the community and do not know, what foo bar already made for us all. That is the next fault by some gamers here. I just see very much guys, who are not aware to the game, the history and the community.

Otherwise, nobody would ever say yes for a ban of foobar!!!! He simply do not deserve it and he became a not unimportant part of the product "IL2".

So you should reject this ban.

[Kongo-Otto]

It does not matter who you think you are Foo'Bar , you screw about and you get banned like the rest of us.

Ok and you are which momentarily banned forum member? :rolleyes:

[Kongo-Otto]

I agree mate. I placed a post, just recently, saying the same thing however it was ignored.
I can't understand why all update threads aren't locked. Every single time an update thread appears, whether it contains a Beta or Patch, there is a standard reply to it. For the first 3 or so pages we get to read 'Thank You Devs', then after that there is another 20 pages of members arguing with each other. I don't see the point.
Why can't someone open a 'Thank You' Devs thread outside the Update thread.
If this simple thing was done then we wouldn't be in this position.
Luither/Blacksix - Please, please, please lock your update thread, even if there is no Beta or Patch contained in them.

Seems pretty simple to me.


+1

[tarks]

Be careful what you all post. You all know that these posts are classed as off topic. Infractions can be handed out and the way points accumulate you could get a 6 month ban if you post enough.

[Stublerone]

OSorry, but nearly every post of nearly any guy here is somehow off topic.

Discussion threads are there. But the last weeks, nearly 20 threads are opened just to express personal thinkings. Very few threads have something to do with the game. They just want to say thank you and open the next thread, which is totally senseless from the beginning or even gets unreadable and senseless after some posts.

Sorry, but it is getting a chatroom. Sorry to say that, but this is getting more and more.

This is my last post in this manner (be sure). But some guys, who are really discussing, bug tracking and statinfg or helping at problems cannot be heard here anymore.

Hopefully my next post will be a post with content, not with such nonsense, as I am currently writing. It is simply not important, that I open a thread with my name on it to say things with no constructive topics or fill it with answers, which were already asked.

Other forums will simply close such threads and will remind about the "search button".

Now I am finished!!!!! Hopefully forever..

[CWMV]

Two thoughts:

1) Whatever his intent, it is the result that matters.

2) "I didn't know the gun was loaded" is not a viable defense.

He got what he deserved, even if he didn't think about the consequences of his actions.

It might have been a good joke, at some other time. But yesterday was not that time.

binky9

Actually that's not quite true. At least in the American justice system intent can be the difference between a few years in prison or death row.

Although if it was intended as a joke, well...that's poor taste at the very least.

Still, when you have people here who are allowed to make personal attacks, snide remarks and who otherwise behave in an unconscionable and bullying manner, this guy being banned seems ridiculous at best.

[SG1_Lud]

He definitely didn't deserve the ban.

People have to be responsible for their actions, he didn't do anything wrong, it's the act first-think later crowd which got what they deserved.

+1

[CaptainDoggles]

Foo'bar should be unbanned immediately, there is not a single poster on these forums that has done more for the game than he has if anyone has a right to moan about anything it's him he clearly spent a lot of time working on models for this game and from what I have seen he has had little to no respect from the users or 1C for all his efforts... such a shame.

P.S. I could name 100 users on this forum that have done more damage on these forums for "supporting" the devs than he has... a single unfortunate post and he is banned!!! Luthier, B6 you should intervene in this!

So it's cool to be an ass if we contribute to the sim? Sweet, I'll go fire up 3DS Max so I have carte blanche to be a jerk on the forums.

Oh wait.... nope, sorry, contributing 3d models does not render a person above the law.

[irR4tiOn4L]

He definitely didn't deserve the ban.

People have to be responsible for their actions, he didn't do anything wrong, it's the act first-think later crowd which got what they deserved.

Agreed. On my reading of all this he merely bumped an old thread, that is all. It is done all the time.

How could he predict that some people would be so stupid as to download an old patch without reading his post or any others?

He did not deserve a ban, no malice, no wrongdoing.

There are plenty of others I would have banned a long time ago, and many of them are the ones who downloaded and whined about the bumping of the patch thread.

So it's cool to be an ass if we contribute to the sim? Sweet, I'll go fire up 3DS Max so I have carte blanche to be a jerk on the forums.

Oh wait.... nope, sorry, contributing 3d models does not render a person above the law.

If you are going to invoke law, then you best point to the forum rule that was breached and why it does not result in banning in all cases.

It is a general principle present in most legal systems that people should not be held responsible for unforeseeable and unintended consequences, even if they brought them about. If they were, then everyone would have been on trial at Nuremberg.

[CaptainDoggles]

This week, on I Take Everything Literally, we learn that "above the law" is a figure of speech :rolleyes:

forum rule that was breachedTrolling is against the rules, and anyone pretending that foobar wasn't just trying to troll people is deluding themselves

and why it does not result in banning in all cases. I am not a moderator so I have no idea why they don't ban all the trolls.

[irR4tiOn4L]

This week, on I Take Everything Literally, we learn that "above the law" is a figure of speech :rolleyes:

Don't be droll, I am directly questioning the standards you are applying. I am saying that based on the rules and 'laws' we write down, be they forum rules or legal rules, it would be difficult to point to any wrongdoing by Foo'Bar, yet you still insist on blood.

I am saying you are in favour of dispensing mob justice, just because the dumb mob got burnt. By accident and their own stupidity.

I am not a moderator so I have no idea why they don't ban all the trolls.

Lol well I agree there. Some things are a mystery.

Trolling is against the rules, and anyone pretending that foobar wasn't just trying to troll people is deluding themselves

Do you hear yourself? Well I'll indulge this - what are the elements of this 'trolling' offence and how has foobar met them?

Since you are calling into question the judgment of anyone who doubts that foobar is guilty before proven innocent, it might also be pertinent to describe the standards by which you tell when someone is deluding themselves.

[tarks]

Before I come to this website I make sure I have this playing as background music:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

Actually before I read update threads this is a MUST!:)

[irR4tiOn4L]

Actually before I read update threads this is a MUST!:)

Does this express your opinion on what Foo'bar did? If so, why not come right out and say it, and have your opinion tested?

You seemed much braver in the other thread;
It does not matter who you think you are Foo'Bar , you screw about and you get banned like the rest of us.

But have brought as little value as you did there

[CaptainDoggles]

Since you are calling into question the judgment of anyone who doubts that foobar is guilty before proven innocent, it might also be pertinent to describe the standards by which you tell when someone is deluding themselves.

I think you're taking this just a wee bit too seriously. This isn't a court of law. There's no such thing as "guilty until proven innocent" on the internet. Somebody apparently installed that patch and wrecked their game and reported the post, moderators decided it was trolling or otherwise inappropriate for the forum. End of story.

[FS~Phat]

As I said, whether intentional malicious intent or not he still did something in very poor judgement that led to people's systems being inoperable. He should know better than to resurrect an old beta thread. The reason others weren't banned for looking back on the past years events was because they didn't try to invoke a community response by bringing up an old thread. If I did the same I would expect to be banned myself for poor judgement. He is not above the rules an nor is anyone else. I will consider the length of ban but he in my mind was stirring the pot at a time that was in very poor taste and judgement.

If you noticed I changed the name of the old beta thread and when I have time I will do the same for the others. It's a difficult job to moderate here and it's my daughters 1st birthday today so excuse me if I haven't got the 8hrs a day to moderate, the same as some of you that all the time in the world to troll about all day long. That's all the time I'm prepared to put into this today and I stand by my decision.

[159th_Jester]

Did Pencon get banned for resurrecting the other patch thread yesterday.... After Foo'Bar had had his little "joke?"

[tk471138]

He definitely didn't deserve the ban.

People have to be responsible for their actions, he didn't do anything wrong, it's the act first-think later crowd which got what they deserved.

quoted for truth!!!!

Personal responsibility!!, their was so much wrong with that thread that should have thrown up red flags...i mean MEGAUPLOAD was a download link....COME ON PEOPLE....

i know what happened and i fell for it for about 5 seconds that is cuz we all wanted a patch in fact some of us wanted a patch really bad and so for some of us we SAW what we wanted, but what we perceived, was not necessarily what we got...



just read moderators post above mine, definitely some sanction is necessary, whether its a life long ban in my opinion was heavy handed...however im sure alot of people were angry and reported the post out of spite, especially those who "damaged" their install...

[von Brühl]

it wasn't what you said it was that you brought back an old thread at a time when everyone is on edge about a pending beta.


lol!!

[Buchon]

Sometimes you guys forget that this forum is a war zone, it always was since the days of Forgotten Battles.

There trolls here all the time trying to trolling the community and in the opposite side the moderators trying get ride off of them, with specially intensity this days when CLOD is in a delicate state.

You should be aware of this if you don't want get hit by a lost bullet.

I guess that Foobar just acted without thinking the consequences, but the moderators are bound to take actions to fix the mess.

I think that a better idea was resolve it with a infraction, but this debate is useless now.

Anyway ... Foobar belong to this community, he will be welcomed when this get solved and we´ll see his contributions to IL-2 again, because he is a good and appreciated member of the IL-2 community.

That´s the difference between ban a troll and ban good member.

[Pudfark]

Well?
Foo?
Here in Texas.....?
That's what we call a "fat chance"......:(

[theOden]

He definitely didn't deserve the ban.

People have to be responsible for their actions, he didn't do anything wrong, it's the act first-think later crowd which got what they deserved.
Hell must have frozen over, I'm all 100% with robtek.
Amazing moderation in this house.
If anyone from 1C ever reads this forum, they should consider.
or at least hand out free ritalin.

[V.4_Pogi]

I do not favour it,that banned Foobar!

Though me, too onto so much gone blind I was already under the many months. That I downloaded it....,but then I realized that I made ​​a mistake because I was blind.

And finally a good big laugh on this all,that not only was I so...

I do not understand this whole tantrum,and why we had to ban Foobar.

I do not think he wants to fool us.

We could possibly vote.

Sorry my poor english.

~S~

[Robert]

Foo'bar may not have intentionally caused the stir he did, but why dredge up a topic that is within a week of the date (minus a year) to the date he posted? In other words why bump a May 4th, 2011 post on April 27 , 2012 - especially when the current patch is imminant? The last patch was October 2011. Why not bump that patch/topic? How far down the forum list did he have to go to get the post he did?

To me it's not about the people who downloaded the patch by accident. I agree a second or two looking at the date and the already numerous replys to a post (that had it been current to April 27th, 2012) would not have garnered as many replies as it already had.

Logically there's no reason to believe this was a current release of a new patch.

It's the juxtaposition of the two dates (4/27/12 - 5/4/11) combined with patch fever, (and let's be honest it's also the antagonistic character the forum has taken) that causes me suspicion. For someone to have been involved with CoD for as long as he has, I find it incredulous that he'd not know the atmosphere regarding this game.

I wish him well, and hope he will be back. Hopefully we've all learned something.

[seaeye]

Yep....and the fact you said it too.

+1 lol

[Insuber]

People had their installations ruined, and be it intentional or not someone had to spend his valuable time to fix the mess in his own PC. If I were one of them I would be quite angry.

As sympathetic as I can be towards Foobar, all I can ask is to reduce his ban to a more reasonable week or two, for the sake of his valuable contributions to the game and his long standing honorable membership.

Phat, from your own words you know that it's the right thing to do, please reduce Foobar's ban!

(Oh and happy b'day to your daughter!)

Cheers!

[335th_GRAthos]

Dear community,

when I wanted to see today in the early morning after the news in the official 1C forum, I had to find out that I have been banned for the next two months. One takes amiss of it me that I had dared the day before to leave a melancholy comment in an already older thread.

What is no big thing under normal circumstances, seems to have provided in view of the at the moment ruling excitement for a considerable mess among the forum visitors and prompted my highly respected mod collegues to hectic actionism. Obviously my contribution has provided for so a lot of confusion and restlessness under blind and unreflective after the hotly desired patch craving leisure pilots that one felt exciting to have to lock out even a honorable and long-standing Additional 3D Developer from Cliffs of Dover about for a long time from this forum.

Now, I take the affair with humor and will use my suddenly gotten spare time to create high-class railroad and building models also furthermore, for public good here in the Il-2 community, even for those which had demanded so energetically my distance from the 1C forum.

In the end, we want everything only one thing: the best combat flight simulator.

And now, mods, feel free to ban even this second account for having multiple ones. This will be my first and last post with Mexxoft identity.

See you in two months. I have to work. For you. Check for regularly updates at Foo'blog.

Foo'bar aka Mexxoft aka Peter F. Schaller
Additional 3D Developer for Il-2 Sturmovik Series.

PS: Please excuse this rather bad translation, it would be easier to me to express myself in my native language.

PSPS: If somebody has downloaded an old patch because of me, has installed and has destroyed his well-oiled CloD installation with it, then I'm honestly sorry. This wasn't my intention - although some new habitants of my increased ignore list seem to know exactly what my intentions were.

Hey Peter,

Nice of you to write this (sogar in English), apology accepted and I am sure many will appreciate if not even admire your honesty and courage to write this, instead of hiding behind the anonymity of the cloud.

It shows the class and purity of character which unfortunately is not always the case in forums.

~S~

[bongodriver]

No place for favouriteism or elitism in the forum, do the time that fits the crime, presumably Foobar is a paid contributor to COD development therefore a ban from here should have no bearing on it.

[Kobold10]

Sorry to hear that FOO´BAR. I love your videos very much. Great work!!!
Some people have problems when they hear critic words about their work.
It´s a sad thing that they bann you...:confused:

[Falstaff]

Bongodriver said:

>>No place for favouriteism or elitism in the forum, do the time that fits the crime, presumably Foobar is a paid contributor to COD development therefore a ban from here should have no bearing on it. <<

Bongodriver sums it up succintly, here and everywhere else.

Ben

[bongodriver]

Furthermore Mexxoft=Foobar.......who has been banned anyway? or do people only have an attachment to the forum user name opposed to the human being behind it?

[Falstaff]

Bongodriver said:

>>Furthermore Mexxoft=Foobar.......who has been banned anyway? or do people only have an attachment to the forum user name opposed to the human being behind it?<<

Presumably they do. Good point. Thanks for pointing it out. Your ceaseless travails are making this forum a better place for all ceoncerned lately.

[furbs]

^this

[Attila]

Thats expected, but I think the Dumb Ass part will take care of that..
:grin:

[SlipBall]

Wow, foo'bar has been assimilated

[Icebear]

Everyone knows what everyone thinks, no need to have a forum filled with 10,000 similar and redundant posts....

...like yours !

[FS~Phat]

I've reduced the ban on Foo'bar to 3 weeks as it wasnt an intentional deceit of the community but just really poor judgement that still needs to acted on as if it were anyone else in the community making such a mistake. More than enough said so please leave it there!

Cheers
Phat