Blacksix, info today here pls.

[furbs]

Blacksix, you posted yesterday you might have some information today, please could you post it here so its easy to find for everyone.

Cheers.

Unless you want to make a post of your own of course. :)

[BlackSix]

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.

[Triggaaar]

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.Excellent, let's hope so. Cheers

[furbs]

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.


No CTD online?

Blacksix, the CTD's are only online after about 45 mins, this is been tested?

[albx]

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.

the beta right? not the final

[addman]

Yaaay! Maybe Friday if we are lucky then? lol!

[furbs]

I posted this at 11.57am, Blacksix's reply 12.12pm.

Im bleedin well psychic. :)

Edit. should read my posts before hitting reply. :)

Thanks dutch.

[Gourmand]

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.

thanks for the response

[5./JG27.Farber]

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.

....and a small cheer went up from every corner of the world and that day there was content... :grin:

[JG26_EZ]

Blacksix, the CTD's are only online after about 45 mins, this is been tested?

Uhmm.. CTD's aren't only online after 45min..
They also happen in single player, at any time, and well under 45min normally.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Im bleedin well physic. :)

Well I don't know about that Furbsy, but you might be psychic. :grin:

I suppose I was being a bit too optimistic thinking they might put it out by close of play today. You know, 'weekend plus a couple of days'? :confused:

[BlackSix]

No CTD online?

Blacksix, the CTD's are only online after about 45 mins, this is been tested?

Yes, no CTD online on our PCs.

the beta right? not the final

Beta

[Anders_And]

Great news Blacksix!! Thx for letting us know!!!:grin:

[SlipBall]

Yes, no CTD online on our PCs.



Beta


Tested with bombers, yes?

[pupaxx]

Thanks BSix,
just another question, (dunno if already asked) will the LOD at medium distances tuned up in this patch or with near future patches or it isn't an issue for dev team?
thanks again

[furbs]

Uhmm.. CTD's aren't only online after 45min..
They also happen in single player, at any time, and well under 45min normally.

I was talking about the almost certain CTD for 99% of people, but i take your point.

[furbs]

yes, no ctd online on our pcs.






ty. :)

[Sutts]

Thanks BlackSix, great news indeed.

[Ataros]

Thanks BSix,
just another question, (dunno if already asked) will the LOD at medium distances tuned up in this patch or with near future patches or it isn't an issue for dev team?
thanks again

BTW this is No.2 "most wanted" bug after missing COOP gamemode according to number of votes here http://www.il2bugtracker.com/projects/cod/issues?query_id=1

[_RAAF_Smouch]

... and that day there was content... :grin:

You sure about that? ;):-P

But great news to hear B6.

Looking forward to see what your hard work shows.

[furbs]

Blacksix, I know you make the missions for the team, do you know if the COOP system will be addressed in a CLOD patch to come?

Please look here...
http://www.il2bugtracker.com/issues/51

and here...
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31176

Thanks.

[DroopSnoot]

Thanks B6 & Team,

Keep diggin out blind men.

@Furbs - One thing at a time mate, slowly slowly catch a monkey.

[furbs]

Thanks B6 & Team,

Keep diggin out blind men.

@Furbs - One thing at a time mate, slowly slowly catch a monkey.

Don't hurt to ask :)

[ramstein]

I never had a ctd problem in COD,,, only ghost planes, and and some Steam issues.. (cough,, cough..)

[smink1701]

I feel the Dark Ages may be coming to an end, :grin:

[taildraggernut]

Not quite....nobody asked if there are still CTD's when wearing green socks, I would like assurances.

[Buzpilot]

....and a small cheer went up from every corner of the world and that day there was content... :grin:

+1

[furbs]

Not quite....nobody asked if there are still CTD's when wearing green socks, I would like assurances.

Green? weirdo :)

[mazex]

I feel the Dark Ages may be coming to an end, :grin:

Yes, the times since the last patch have truly been medieval :)

Regarding the CTD we experience in our version now online I'm pretty sure they have fixed it as it seems to be related to texture loading that has been rewritten. I've been able to recreate the memory leak by switching skins on an aircraft, but only after flying one or more online sorties and doing it after being back on the ground after some action (and other textures/skins being loaded?). But not every time... Then it happens other times online too but it seems related to texture loading too as I at some occasions have found "half" skins after a crash just after the catching an enemy aircraft (maybe with a home made skin?)... I have reported these to Ilya ages ago with dumps and logs and he has responded back that they where looking at it for the patch so no new news...

Then it seems there where other problems that has caused CTD:s so I guess there has been many leaks - but the fact that the texture loading routine now is rewritten and runs on a separate thread sounds good! No more stuttering when users with funky home made skins join an online session either ;) I really would like to have an option to disable user skins and got a response from Ilya that they may include that...

/Mazex

[6BL Bird-Dog]

Good News :grin:

[ACE-OF-ACES]

I was talking about the almost certain CTD for 99% of people, but i take your point.
For 99% ?

Hardly.. and IMHO it would be comic to see just how you came up with that number

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Not quite....nobody asked if there are still CTD's when wearing green socks, I would like assurances.lol

[kevchenco]

Then it seems there where other problems that has caused CTD:s so I guess there has been many leaks

The most common cause of CTD on my machine is when you open up the explorer box in the game - basically when you want to save a track or change the conf file. I cant complain given other peoples experiences.

As a budding pilot im hoping that the track file views (i.e. not fixed on full swith mode etc) may have been fixed so i can review my gross flying mistakes properly

[furbs]

For 99% ?

Hardly.. and IMHO it would be comic to see just how you came up with that number


Take a day off....:rolleyes:

[David Hayward]

Not quite....nobody asked if there are still CTD's when wearing green socks, I would like assurances.

Or sandals. I'm often wearing sandals in the summer. It's probably too cold to test that configuration in Moscow. I'M DOOOOOMED!!!

[OutlawBlues]

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.

Right! What does this say about future development of this sim when its takes this long to release a PATCH? :confused:

[David Hayward]

Right! What does this say about future development of this sim when its takes this long to release a PATCH? :confused:

It probably says nothing at all. They rewrote a lot of complicated stuff (sorry for the tech talk), that takes a lot of time.

[Volksieg]

What David said. lol

Any future development would just be a matter of using the current engine which, hopefully, would be fully fixed by this upcoming patch and the handful (I'm guessing) that will come after it.

[Chromius]

The majority of the CTD's that can easily be reproduced is when you fly multiple 2 and 4 engined aircraft close together by live players on a multi-player server for extended periods of time.

As long as they did a simple test and flew 4-6 multiple engine aircraft (preferably tested with more) operated by live players close together (ie formation) on a MP server for a couple hours or more without any CTD's then that would be solving the majority of the CTD issues for many.

[Jaws2002]

The majority of the CTD's that can easily be reproduced is when you fly multiple 2 and 4 engined aircraft close together by live players on a multi-player server for extended periods of time.

As long as they did a simple test and flew 4-6 multiple engine aircraft (preferably tested with more) operated by live players close together (ie formation) on a MP server for a couple hours or more without any CTD's then that would be solving the majority of the CTD issues for many.


Yep. I sure hope it's fixed. I also hope the bomb sights are fixed, so we can go open a big can of Blitzkrieg on the poor Tommies. http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/image.php?u=3207&dateline=1241613786&type=thumb

[Force10]

For 99% ?

Hardly.. and IMHO it would be comic to see just how you came up with that number

The devs acknowledged the CTD's and memory leak already, so whats your problem? I guess I missed the fine print in the devs statement that there is a memory leak in all copies except the one Ace of Aces received. I guess there is no reason for you to patch your copy then Ace? Ignorance is bliss I guess....

[=AN=Apache]

Maybe tomorrow .... I'm anxious for this patch

[bisher]

My leaking memory is not noticable, or I've forgotten about it

[Nitrous]

My leaking memory is not noticable, or I've forgotten about it

lmfao

[mazex]

The devs acknowledged the CTD's and memory leak already, so whats your problem? I guess I missed the fine print in the devs statement that there is a memory leak in all copies except the one Ace of Aces received. I guess there is no reason for you to patch your copy then Ace? Ignorance is bliss I guess....

Google translate of Blacksix last post today on Sokhoi (at 12:44):

Posted by shammy:
I hope the online tests are also carried out?

Blacksix:
Yes, of course. We have a group of testers was flying parallel to the old version and crash all the time. In the new patch it does not crash. Now all will test a large number of PCs you have different.

Well, "crash all the time" pretty much confirms that they accnowledge the leaks and online crashes, and that they are hopeful of having fixed them ;) I guess "is not flown" mean "does not crash"... Checked alternate translations and that was the case so I changed the text above.

[JG52Krupi]

Tested with bombers, yes?

THIS ^

Have you tested 30-45 min flight with a formation of bombers?

[furbs]

Google translate of Blacksix last post today on Sokhoi (at 12:44):

Posted by shammy:
I hope the online tests are also carried out?

Blacksix:
Yes, of course. We have a group of testers was flying parallel to the old version and crash all the time. In the new patch is not flown. Now all will test a large number of PCs you have different.

Well, "crash all the time" pretty much confirms that they accnowledge the leaks and online crashes, and that they are hopeful of having fixed them ;) I guess "is not flown" mean "has not occurred" :)

Of course, though ARSE of ARSES must think Blacksix and the testers are lying. :rolleyes:

[Force10]

Google translate of Blacksix last post today on Sokhoi (at 12:44):

Posted by shammy:
I hope the online tests are also carried out?

Blacksix:
Yes, of course. We have a group of testers was flying parallel to the old version and crash all the time. In the new patch it does not crash. Now all will test a large number of PCs you have different.

Well, "crash all the time" pretty much confirms that they accnowledge the leaks and online crashes, and that they are hopeful of having fixed them ;) I guess "is not flown" mean "does not crash"... Checked alternate translations and that was the case so I changed the text above.

It really doesn't matter how many facts we throw at Ace, he will spin it somehow or just do his trademark *yawn*.

[Tickl3]

Of course, though ARSE of ARSES must think Blacksix and the testers are lying. :rolleyes:

lol:grin:

[JG52Uther]

The ONLY thing that matters in this thread is this:
Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.

I swear some of you would argue if one said water was wet...

[SlipBall]

Google translate of Blacksix last post today on Sokhoi (at 12:44):

Posted by shammy:
I hope the online tests are also carried out?

Blacksix:
Yes, of course. We have a group of testers was flying parallel to the old version and crash all the time. In the new patch it does not crash. Now all will test a large number of PCs you have different.

Well, "crash all the time" pretty much confirms that they accnowledge the leaks and online crashes, and that they are hopeful of having fixed them ;) I guess "is not flown" mean "does not crash"... Checked alternate translations and that was the case so I changed the text above.


Excellent!...should be a big boost for the on-line pilot numbers

[addman]

The ONLY thing that matters in this thread is this:


I swear some of you would argue if one said water was wet...

Prove it! Facts!

[JG52Uther]

I'll get a graph...
;)

[addman]

I'll get a graph...
;)

I'll get another graph....it will be better than your graph.

[SlipBall]

Charts and graphs!

[JG52Krupi]

It really doesn't matter how many facts we throw at Ace, he will spin it somehow or just do his trademark *yawn*.

Quoted for truth and hence the reason I can no longer read his posts :o

So please stop quoting him, Thank you kindly.

(Okay, Okay I loved Bioshock ;))

[Volksieg]

I swear some of you would argue if one said water was wet...

No it isn't! :D

[JG52Krupi]

No it isn't! :D

Yes it is "Fanyboi"

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/funny-pictures-cat-dislikes-wet-water.jpg

[PeterPanPan]

The ONLY thing that matters in this thread is this:


I swear some of you would argue if one said water was wet...

Water isn't actually wet. Water is water. Wet is simply a perception experienced when a material previously not in contact with water becomes mixed with water in some way and the resultant change in its textural properties are recognised and subsequently recorded via language or the written word as 'wet'. Raaaid will concur ;)

[Dano]

Water isn't actually wet. Water is water. Wet is simply a perception experienced when a material previously not in contact with water becomes mixed with water in some way and the resultant change in its textural properties are recognised and subsequently recorded via language or the written word as 'wet'. Raaaid will concur ;)

:D

[Jatta Raso]

Or sandals. I'm often wearing sandals in the summer. It's probably too cold to test that configuration in Moscow. I'M DOOOOOMED!!!

look!! HE MADE A JOKE!!! :shock::shock::shock:

[Jatta Raso]

actually iced water IS water, but is it wet?? obviously not.. think about the facts and get your act together before posting any more crap!

c:\>sarcastic troll off

[Volksieg]

Yes it is "Fanyboi"

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/funny-pictures-cat-dislikes-wet-water.jpg

:D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

[No1 Cheese]

That last post was fantastic,completely hits this forum on the head!!! Wow not like that like this!!!!

Brilliant.

Cheese

[Tree_UK]

look!! HE MADE A JOKE!!! :shock::shock::shock:

He's had a day off from being one:grin:

[David Hayward]

He's had a day off from being one:grin:

Gosh, that really hurts... And here I was trying so hard to be buddies with you...

[swiss]

He's had a day off from being one:grin:

Hey c'mon, that wasn't nice nor justified!
What do expect? His just another employee affected by mushroom management; kept in the dark and fed with sh1t.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Take a day off....:rolleyes:
So.. is it safe to assume that your quote of 99% was based on a poll?

If so, was it that poll where the mods discovered certain people were voting more than once using different handles?

[David Hayward]

Hey c'mon, that wasn't nice nor justified!
What do expect? His just another employee affected by mushroom management; kept in the dark and fed with sh1t.

WTF are you talking about?

[furbs]

So.. is it safe to assume that your quote of 99% was based on a poll?

If so, was it that poll where the mods discovered certain people were voting more than once using different handles?

Jesus christ, the developers and their testers know about and have the CTD's themselves, are you calling them liars?

Just give it a rest, your boring me.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

The devs acknowledged the CTD's and memory leak already, so whats your problem?
First thing I should point out is that I never said the devs did not acknowledge there is a CTD with 'some' computers.

While we are on the subject, take note of what BS said wrt the CTD. BS is clear to point out that they are not experiencing any CTD's with 'their' PC. Translated means there is still a chance that some user PCs may still have a CTD issue! Which means even the devs admit that the CTD is PC depended.

So far so good?

Now lets look at what I did say

I questioned furb's 99% quote.. Why? Because we know that number has no real meaning.. It was picked out of thin air.. So truth be told we don't know what percentage of people are experiencing CTDs.

All we know for sure is that some people do and some people don't experience CTDs (based on previous thread in this very forum)

Which goes back to why BS did NOT say the CTD is fixed! Note he said they are not experiencing any CTDs on their PCs.. Two very different things! Which again means even the devs admit that the CTD is/was very PC depended.

All better now?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Jesus christ, the developers and their testers know about and have the CTD's themselves, are you calling them liars?

Just give it a rest, your boring me.First thing I should point out is that I never said the devs did not acknowledge there is a CTD with 'some' computers.

While we are on the subject, take note of what BS said wrt the CTD. BS is clear to point out that they are not experiencing any CTD's with 'their' PC. Translated means there is still a chance that some user PCs may still have a CTD issue! Which means even the devs admit that the CTD is PC depended.

So far so good?

Now lets look at what I did say

I questioned furb's 99% quote.. Why? Because we know that number has no real meaning.. It was picked out of thin air.. So truth be told we don't know what percentage of people are experiencing CTDs.

All we know for sure is that some people do and some people don't experience CTDs (based on previous thread in this very forum)

Which goes back to why BS did NOT say the CTD is fixed! Note he said they are not experiencing any CTDs on their PCs.. Two very different things! Which again means even the devs admit that the CTD is/was very PC depended.

All better now?

[Insuber]

Jesus christ, the developers and their testers know about and have the CTD's themselves, are you calling them liars?

Just give it a rest, your boring me.

I see the old and well known trap closing its jaws. Don't go that way furbs, please.

[FS~looksharp]

i personaly have never suffered with CTD's ... i only fly online and the majer issue for me is the menu screens locking up while choosing my online base or aircraft.... here's me hopeing this will be fixed with the patch ;)

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Anyone want to know how to spot someone that realised they are wrong, but not adult enough to admit it?

Easy, look for the person that has to resort to name calling in an atempt to take the focus off the fact that they are wrong and not adult enough to admit it

For example

Of course, though ARSE of ARSES must think Blacksix and the testers are lying. :rolleyes:

[kendo65]

BS did NOT say the CTD is fixed!

... he said they are not experiencing any CTDs on their PCs..

Two very different things!

:confused: :o:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin: :rolleyes:

The logic is so tortured I can almost hear it scream...

DX11 anyone?

[JG52Uther]

I think you need to read BlackSix's post again Ace, he means they are not getting CTD's now they have the new gfx engine, but they were getting them on the old engine...

[ACE-OF-ACES]

I think you need to read BlackSix's post again Ace, he means they are not getting CTD's now they have the new gfx engine, but they were getting them on the old engine...

Ok lets read it togther

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.

Note the bold..

Not sure what that tells you, or others, but what that tells me is they reailse the CTD is, was, or could be (post patch) PC depended

[PotNoodles]

This is what I think about it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY3JJnL4Fz4

[SlipBall]

Ok lets read it togther



Note the bold..

Not sure what that tells you, or others, but what that tells me is they reailse the CTD is, was, or could be (post patch) PC depended



Search the quote Ace, there is another sentence to it.:)

[Force10]

Here ya go Ace:

"Blacksix:
Yes, of course. We have a group of testers was flying parallel to the old version and crash all the time."

If you can remove the rose colored lenses for a sec, you will see he is talking about the old version which is what we are all flying now. What you posted is results from testing on the new patch version which none of us have yet. IE everyone has CTD's at some point. Memory leaks are universal and some might not experience them if they quit after every mission or limit their flying sessions. Also depends on how much memory someone has in their machine before they CTD when the leak fills it up.

[furbs]

Thank you Force,
Now lets all read it together...
"Blacksix:
Yes, of course. We have a group of testers was flying parallel to the old version and crash all the time."

Now they dont, they have fixed it.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Here ya go Ace:

"Blacksix:
Yes, of course. We have a group of testers was flying parallel to the old version and crash all the time."

If you can remove the rose colored lenses for a sec, you will see he is talking about the old version which is what we are all flying now. What you posted is results from testing on the new patch version which none of us have yet. IE everyone has CTD's at some point. Memory leaks are universal and some might not experience them if they quit after every mission or limit their flying sessions. Also depends on how much memory someone has in their machine before they CTD when the leak fills it up.
No rose colored glasses required or used.. Just need to read, i.e.

Test is going well. We don't have CTD on our PCs. I hope what we will release patch on this week.

Note the bold..

Not sure what that tells you, or others, but what that tells me is they reailse the CTD is, was, or could be (post patch) PC depended

[Krt_Bong]

True, I didn't have any for a long time and then had 3 in one night, in less than 45 mins.

[kammo]

It doesn't make any sense to post this clip here. Therefore it's only logical to post it her. Keyword: absurd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuP6KbIsNK4

[furbs]

No rose colored glasses required or used.. Just need to read, i.e.



Note the bold..

Not sure what that tells you, or others, but what that tells me is they reailse the CTD is, was, or could be (post patch) PC depended


.......

[Helrza]

thanks for the excellent news B6, cant wait to be turnin and burnin spits in my 109 without being teleported to my desktop :D raining all week, and a new patch as a trade for not mowing my lawn.... my weekends looking good already :D

[JG52Uther]

Ok lets read it togther



Note the bold..

Not sure what that tells you, or others, but what that tells me is they reailse the CTD is, was, or could be (post patch) PC depended

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/pup.jpg

[SlipBall]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/pup.jpg


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f394/SlipBall/Picture081.jpg


My dog's been wishing for a reason to get on the internet:cool:

[Force10]

No rose colored glasses required or used.. Just need to read, i.e.



Note the bold..

Not sure what that tells you, or others, but what that tells me is they reailse the CTD is, was, or could be (post patch) PC depended

That would make sense if Furbs said that 99% of the devs had CTD's on the patch their testing right now. He was talking about CTD's that we are having with what we are flying right now. In that case, 99% is an accurate statement. Let me know if your still struggling with this fairly simple timeline and I will bust out some crayons and put together some pie charts and flow graphs for ya.

[Insuber]

The patch took so long because the CTD is PC-related, and thus the patch will be obliged to reconfigure every single PC on this earth to eliminate CTD's. Simple logics, guys.

[Dano]

Surely all Aces is saying is that just because the devs are not experiencing CTD's anymore it does not preclude the possibility that we will, I'm sure some bright spark will find a way to crash it that the devs have missed :)

[mazex]

I think that this thread has reached the end - just like many others here lately ;)

[furbs]

If 10 testers have a range of PC's and they get CTD's all the time with our version of CLOD, then they apply the patch and now the CTD's have stopped and they have made no hardware changes to their PC's, what does that tell your about the CTD's?

am i missing something?

(by the way i made up the number of testers just in case i get jumped on again)

[addman]

If 10 testers have a range of PC's and they get CTD's all the time with our version of CLOD, then they apply the patch and now the CTD's have stopped and they have made no hardware changes to their PC's, what does that tell your about the CTD's?

am i missing something?

(by the way i made up the number of testers just in case i get jumped on again)

It tells me only a maximum of 10 different PC's have been tested with the patch, how many different setups do you think we have on this forum alone?

[Dano]

That in a very small test group it is 100% fixed, is it correct to assume that this means it is 100% fixed? Only if you have switched to being optimistic from the usual pessimism that pervades around here ;)

[BH_woodstock]

I think that this thread has reached the end - just like many others here lately ;)


well said sir.
Since light travels faster than sound,
people appear bright until you hear them speak.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/pup.jpg
Well seems like eveyone is confused.. So allow me to clear this up

First things first

furbs stated that 99% of the people were experancing CTD

Which is NOT true

Based on posts in this very forum we know for a fact that some never experanced a CTD, and other only experanced them a few times

What that means is the CTD is very PC depended.

Just to be crystal, I am NOT saying the CTD is NOT a CoD bug, never have, never will! All I am pointing out is that it is PC depended.

And clearly I am in good company, because even BS went as far as to note that they are not experancing any CTD on 'thier' PCs. Which is another way of saying, we don't have every kind of PC combination out there at our disposale to beta test on, thus there is a slight chance that some people may still experance CTDs post patch. Why else would BS qualify the statment by saying 'on our PCs'?

Hope that helps!

S!

[ACE-OF-ACES]

it tells me only a maximum of 10 different pc's have been tested with the patch, how many different setups do you think we have on this forum alone?
b i n g o!!

[ACE-OF-ACES]

In that case, 99% is an accurate statement.
Disagree

And just to be crystal, if what you are saying/selling is true, than furbs should have said 100%, which would also be in error. There is not enough data to say exactally how many people are or are not having CTD issues, all we know for sure is that some do and some dont

[Chromius]

LOL. Someone needs a lobotomy.

Clod was released and still is BROKEN. It is not a PC issue.

[furbs]

Well seems like eveyone is confused.. So allow me to clear this up

First things first

furbs stated that 99% of the people were experancing CTD

Which is NOT true

Based on posts in this very forum we know for a fact that some never experanced a CTD, and other only experanced them a few times

What that means is the CTD is very PC depended.

Just to be crystal, I am NOT saying the CTD is NOT a CoD bug, never have, never will! All I am pointing out is that it is PC depended.

And clearly I am in good company, because even BS went as far as to note that they are not experancing any CTD on 'thier' PCs. Which is another way of saying, we don't have every kind of PC combination out there at our disposale to beta test on, thus there is a slight chance that some people may still experance CTDs post patch. Why else would BS qualify the statment by saying 'on our PCs'?

Hope that helps!

S!

ACE i have no idea what percentage of people have CTD's, i pulled the number out of my bum.

I was trying to get across the majority of people are experiencing CTD's online just like the testers, i wanted to know if they tested the patch online which they have.
They say post patch that they have fixed the CTD's on their PC's which says to me the CTD was software related, now lets hope when they release the patch its them same for the majority of us.

[ATAG_Doc]

b i n g o!!

Ace this is your favorite reply isn't it? I'm sure I can find a dozen times you said BINGO for your answer. lol One more time please?

[Tree_UK]

It does beg the question if they tested the orignal release on any PC's at all?? :grin:

[ACE-OF-ACES]

ACE i have no idea what percentage of people have CTD's, i pulled the number out of my bum.
Agreed 100%

Which was my point from the get go! Glad to see your up to speed 'now'

I was trying to get across the majority of people are experiencing CTD's onlie just like the testers, i wanted to know if they tested the patch online which they have.
Just to be crystal, I don't think there is enough data to even say 'most'.

But based on past posts in this forum I would admit it apears to be about 2/3s do and 1/3 dont.

But we have to keep in mind that not everyone that owns CoD posts in this forum, thus even that is a skewed value.

Add to that the FACT that your poll on this subject was LOCKED becase of a few guys trying to promote the 100% CTD case were caught using multi handles to vote mult time and that number becomse even more worthlesss

They say post patch that they have fixed the CTD's on their PC's which says to me the CTD was software related,
Note I never said it was not software related! All I ever said is it is PC depended! Put another way, some PCs are more supseptable to the software bug than others.

now lets hope when they release the patch its them same for the majority of us.
Fingers Crossed!

S!

[addman]

I'm just trying to push the pre-patch euphoria down to realistic levels here, imagine the anti-climax when some people still are experience regular CTD's after the patch. As B6 and luthier themselves said in the update:

Finally, we need to mention the launcher.exe crashes. This was a very hard issue to address as it wasn't caused by a single 100% reproducible bug, but rather rare combinations of various uncommon events.

It wasn't a single bug that they could just locate and squash with a couple of lines of code but by re-writing the engine and optimizing it they have probably minimized the chance of CTD's to a ridiculously low level. I'm sure someone will still have a CTD or two after the patch but they will most likely be a lot less frequent and a lot less common.

P.S There never was a CTD bug, the whole game engine was the bug.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Ace this is your favorite reply isn't it? I'm sure I can find a dozen times you said BINGO for your answer. lol One more time please?
bingo

[Insuber]

You are like flies in a spider's net ... lol!

[David Hayward]

It does beg the question if they tested the orignal release on any PC's at all?? :grin:

No, they tested on Etch A Sketches. Frame rates were a little slow, but they released it anyways.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

PS would this be a bad time to point out that me.. the so called fanboy is pointing out that 1C may still have CTD issues post patch?

Which pretty much debunks anyone who ever thought of me as a fanboy! In that a true fanboy would be saying the following..

Guys, I now 1C has released paches in the past that had bugs in them, but, this is a new day and there is no chance what so ever they would release a patch with a bug in it! They said they tested this one.. I know I know they said they tested the past patches too.. and we still recived a bug, but this time is different!! Everyone I am telling you this patch will be different

Huh.. kind of sounds like furbs last post? So is it safe to say furbs is a fanboy now? ;)

[addman]

You are like flies in a spider's net ... lol!

Yeah, I know, I'm a bit embarrassed really but I just know how this whole forum will just explode in whining after the beta patch is released and just one person gets a CTD, OMG it's so predictable it's not even funny.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

I'm just trying to push the pre-patch euphoria down to realistic levels here, imagine the anti-climax when some people still are experience regular CTD's after the patch.
Join the club! ;)

Oh wait.. for ATAG_Doc I mean bingo!

[Force10]

Just curious Ace, are you saying a memory leak in the code will affect only certain hardware configurations? Memory leaks in software code generally affect 100% of the users. The "1/3rd" of the folks that don't experience CTD's as you say, might have 16gigs of ram and restart their game after every mission. That doesn't mean that their isn't a leak in the code on those 1/3rd, it just means they haven't run the game in one session long enough.

[furbs]

I'm just trying to push the pre-patch euphoria down to realistic levels here, imagine the anti-climax when some people still are experience regular CTD's after the patch. As B6 and luthier themselves said in the update:

Finally, we need to mention the launcher.exe crashes. This was a very hard issue to address as it wasn't caused by a single 100% reproducible bug, but rather rare combinations of various uncommon events.

It wasn't a single bug that they could just locate and squash with a couple of lines of code but by re-writing the engine and optimizing it they have probably minimized the chance of CTD's to a ridiculously low level. I'm sure someone will still have a CTD or two after the patch but they will most likely be a lot less frequent and a lot less common.

P.S There never was a CTD bug, the whole game engine was the bug.

Yep agreed, Not PC dependent.

All games sometimes CTD, i just hope it goes back to a rare event.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Yeah, I know, I'm a bit embarrassed really but I just know how this whole forum will just explode in whining after the beta patch is released and just one person gets a CTD, OMG it's so predictable it's not even funny.
exactally!

Oh wait, for ATAG_Doc I mean bingo!

[David Hayward]

Yep agreed, Not PC dependent.


I have no idea how you got that from his post.

rather rare combinations of various uncommon events

That could easily include PC configuration.

[addman]

Yep agreed, Not PC dependent.

All games sometimes CTD, i just hope it goes back to a rare event.

Right Furbs! that's what I'm trying to say. I've had CTD's -both often and sometimes just once- in so many other PC games I can't remember them all. CTD's are almost never caused by a single bug, it's as luthier said, a combination of many complex events and that's why it's hard to cure.

In fact, I'd like to tell about a typical example. It's about the game Farcry 2, I used to play that game to bits a couple of years ago and after almost exactly 50 minutes during each session the game crashed, EVERY TIME. The problem was a memory leak that was claimed to be fixed in a patch but never was.

[furbs]

I have no idea how you got that from his post.

rather rare combinations of various uncommon events

That could easily include PC configuration.

It could yes, but they dont expect people to change thier PC's do they?
They fix the code.

David, i didn't get the CTD online before the last patch, then after i did.

[GOA_Potenz]

Ace of aces when you see the flash SMILE!!!
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/87914/87914,1208832921,191/stock-photo-man-pointing-shotgun-at-camera-12060898.jpg

hope somebody do this IRL

[David Hayward]

It could yes, but they dont expect people to change thier PC's do they?
They fix the code.

Sorry, but this is gibberish.

[Falstaff]

David Hayward said:

>>Sorry, but this is gibberish. <<

You'll feel right at home then. Picking another meaningless fight?

Small dot at 12 o'clock. Growing larger. Has wings. Must be an argument on the horizon. Must be a Hayward, flaps stuck.

You really (ought to) take some beating.

[DroopSnoot]

I have no idea how you got that from his post.

rather rare combinations of various uncommon events

That could easily include PC configuration.

Luthiers original statement insinuates there is more than 1 major reason CDT in the way of :

CDT's with this game are not "rare combinations of various uncommon events" beacuse our CDT (that keeps being refered to) has been reproduced many times and highlighted many times by users in this thread alone.

Meaning we have more than one reason for CDT happening.

Now, you lot are arguing over the wrong things yet again:

The CDT we know is solved, why? simple, because of the above statement alone shows that the users knew the CDT happening with a rough idea and were able to stave off that CDT by doing various things, If we knew it I'm certain the Devs figured that out and fixed it.


The CDT they are refering to is probably a different one that was very hard to reproduce but luckily hasnt happened so far on their systems.

To be fair lets hope it does happen on the beta so we can flag it and they can fix it.

Oh yeah and stop behaving like a bunch of fools each fighting their case like it is actually going to change anything. If we get CDT we get CDT thats what BETA's are all about.

[David Hayward]

You really (ought to) take some beating.

It's a game, tough guy.

[furbs]

Sorry, but this is gibberish.

Exsample...

If developers release a patch for their game and that patch cause's CTD with Nvidia 580's, is the problem the patch or people's 580's?

Do they fix the code or tell people to change to ATI?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Ace of aces when you see the flash SMILE!!!
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/87914/87914,1208832921,191/stock-photo-man-pointing-shotgun-at-camera-12060898.jpg

hope somebody do this IRL
Yawn..

Well as a card carring concealed handgun licensed person

You better hope your aim is true because you will not get off a 2nd round before I return fire

[Falstaff]

Hayward said:

>>It's a game, tough guy. <<

Only if you're deliberately idiotic or childish enough to make everything into one, in a kind of frustrated-call-centre-worker-mentality sort of way.

Try some civility, for once, my ickle schnuggems...

[KG26_Alpha]

Ace of aces when you see the flash SMILE!!!
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/87914/87914,1208832921,191/stock-photo-man-pointing-shotgun-at-camera-12060898.jpg

hope somebody do this IRL



Ok the wishing someones dead is the final straw in here.





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