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melasuda
03-24-2012, 08:04 PM
hello today are not the servers in the list of steam.
But if you go from Hyperlobby We can reach 3 or 4 servers that are running.
Why not put all the servers from the HL?.
In these time 69server works, and also Ger
Jaws2002
03-24-2012, 08:41 PM
You can direct connect to ATAG by clicking on the link on top of the forum.
http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/forum.php
There were 50+ people online few minutes ago.
BH_woodstock
03-25-2012, 06:54 PM
hyperlobby is ready and set to go.the game even launches faster threw HL. :grin:
CaptainDoggles
03-25-2012, 07:13 PM
the game even launches faster threw HL. :grin:
No it doesn't.
sorak
03-26-2012, 02:03 AM
As much as i love hyperlobby the fact is you still need steam to run and therefore just creates another step before you start flying... I just wish this games and all games for that matter just stop using steam... steam is like AOL for games...
BH_woodstock
03-26-2012, 04:37 AM
No it doesn't.
seemed like it to me.NO opening screen and having to click client or anything.it just loads right into server is what i mean.
BH_woodstock
03-27-2012, 04:49 PM
think about this,what does il2 1946 have that Cliffs of Dover dont??A meeting place!!!A community where pilots can talk, chat, and compare fps,settings,etc..If i dont see pilots in servers just like most are saying here.i either play single player or join the most populated one i can find and usually will fly for a bit, get bored and move on to another game.CloD does NOT have a meeting place!!
Il2 would NOT have survived 10 years without it.1st we had UBI lobby wich was an ok starting point for muiltyplayer experience.Then one day I found Hyperlobby and never looked back, not even once.In my opinion and this is "just" my opinion with all the support that HL has with the community CloD would be far more advanced and fixed and a lot more players if everyone would use a lobby or meeting place such as HL.Am i trying to endorse Hyperlobby? Yes i am.Lets give credit where it is due.Il2 would not have survived this long with out a community.Cliffs of Dover NEVER should have went with "Steam"...It "should" have went to the place where it belongs with a more dedicated community.And i am NOT just saying this because of myself being part of HL staff. "CloD" should have had hyperlobby on the box cover NOT steam.What it all comes down to is that CloD needs more than just a "server" list.it needs friends a common meeting ground, a place to thrive!
can i get an Amen??
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6S.Tamat
03-27-2012, 05:01 PM
can i get an Amen??
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/172/2/f/no__meme_by_dylrocks95-d3jlcc7.png
sorry i needed to do also if you don't deserve it!:mrgreen: I'm joking obviously..
KG26_Alpha
03-27-2012, 05:08 PM
Hey ... Woodstock
Phew.... its been a tough few days trying to get a "community spirit" going here as it seems to be very insular experience with CoD.
Hyperlobby has a great community and has always been the place to fly IL2.
Steam seems to have created a void between users, so the forum here is one place to come for advice and help, and possibly teamspeak servers that are in use for servers hosting CoD can offer help.
Hopefully once CoD gets off the ground properly with more varied flying experiences available from CooP and DF servers, we will se more in the CoD section of HL
:)
5./JG27.Farber
03-27-2012, 05:11 PM
seemed like it to me.NO opening screen and having to click client or anything.it just loads right into server is what i mean.
Many servers now have this feature through steam - For Example:
ATAG (In their community Team speak)
and
5./JG27 Public (on our forum page.) http://www.5jg27.net/
Its the same thing. The only thing steam doesnt have is the chat.
KG26_Alpha
03-27-2012, 05:38 PM
Its the same thing. The only thing steam doesnt have is the chat.
the thing Steam doesn't have is a live community like HL does.
CaptainDoggles
03-27-2012, 05:48 PM
the thing Steam doesn't have is a live community like HL does.
HL used to have a community, perhaps. But it certainly does not any more and likely never will again.
People have a lot of nostalgia for HL but quite frankly if you look at it from an objective perspective, putting aside your emotions it's plain to see that HL is a sub-par program.
The game's got a built-in lobby. If it had a chat feature that connected to an IRC channel it would be infinitely superior. Why do we need a 3rd-party external lobby that doesn't show accurate player numbers if people direct-connect and whose chat is 99% full of trolling anyways?
HL is a relic of the past struggling to maintain relevancy.
KG26_Alpha
03-27-2012, 06:09 PM
HL used to have a community, perhaps. But it certainly does not any more and likely never will again.
People have a lot of nostalgia for HL but quite frankly if you look at it from an objective perspective, putting aside your emotions it's plain to see that HL is a sub-par program.
The game's got a built-in lobby. If it had a chat feature that connected to an IRC channel it would be infinitely superior. Why do we need a 3rd-party external lobby that doesn't show accurate player numbers if people direct-connect and whose chat is 99% full of trolling anyways?
HL is a relic of the past struggling to maintain relevancy.
So where are the 500 or so IL2 1946 pilots meeting & flying from these days ?
Its server well over 10 years as a support, meeting, recruitment place.
It looks like it will keep going.
CaptainDoggles
03-27-2012, 06:10 PM
So where are the 500 or so IL2 1946 pilots meeting & flying from these days ?
Its server well over 10 years as a support, meeting, recruitment place.
It looks like it will keep going.
Maybe for 1946 it will. For CLOD though, I doubt it. 500 pilots is a shadow of the former online population.
Objectively speaking, what is good about HL? Other than the chat, what does HL have that an ingame lobby doesn't?
KG26_Alpha
03-27-2012, 06:26 PM
Maybe for 1946 it will. For CLOD though, I doubt it. 500 pilots is a shadow of the former online population.
Objectively speaking, what is good about HL? Other than the chat, what does HL have that an ingame lobby doesn't?
Agreed there used to be 1000+
Some will argue the numbers halved after the mod packs arrived, some will argue the mod kept the game alive.
Numbers tell us that the v4.11 revived the IL2 1946 online community, users are coming back to stock CooP's and Df servers.
HL has a section for CoD I use it to host from there's a few in there right now.
HL is a point of contact for other pilots to interact outside of the game before any-things launched, so mission and tactics can be discussed also general information exchange can take place about squad or individuals activity including recruitment.
So generally necessary if you want to be part of a community, if you just want to hop in a server and fly around shooting stuff and not be part of anything bigger that's up to you.
:)
CaptainDoggles
03-27-2012, 06:47 PM
Agreed there used to be 1000+
Some will argue the numbers halved after the mod packs arrived, some will argue the mod kept the game alive.
Numbers tell us that the v4.11 revived the IL2 1946 online community, users are coming back to stock CooP's and Df servers.It's a big 'if', but if CLOD ever gets to a workable state, I suspect that the numbers for 1946 will die off. My opinion is that the shoddy, dismal state of CLOD is a large contributor to the high number of pilots still flying 1946.
HL has a section for CoD I use it to host from there's a few in there right now.Last time I checked, HL servers couldn't accurately report the server population unless everyone joined through hyperlobby. Is this still true?
HL is a point of contact for other pilots to interact outside of the game before any-things launched, so mission and tactics can be discussed also general information exchange can take place about squad or individuals activity including recruitment.I agree that it used to be. But 10 years ago some people were still on dialup or ISDN lines. 99% are on broadband now, and voice chat servers are cheap, easy to set up, and a much better medium for getting help and support than text chat. Speaking is just faster than typing, and also frees the hands up for multitasking.
So generally necessary if you want to be part of a community, if you just want to hop in a server and fly around shooting stuff and not be part of anything bigger that's up to you.
:)Nice jab. I myself have been involved with numerous "bigger things" so your assumption doesn't really fit. I've flown in online wars, the USL, etc and every time I found it much simpler to just join via direct connect than waste time fiddling with hyperlobby.
mxmadman
03-27-2012, 06:52 PM
The point is not about how the folks communicate once they've already formed a group, the problem is that its not possible to form that group by joining a TS. I can't ask the TS fairy what IP address will bring me to the right group of sim pilots.
Chat is the best way to do it. You already know whoever you're chatting up is able to join a server with you, you reach an audience that isn't already involved, and the list goes on.
ATAG_MajorBorris
03-27-2012, 07:38 PM
The devs if, my memory serves me correctly which it may not, have a chat feature planned for the CoD lobby, rendering hyperlobby obsolete. Like many features in the sim not yet implemented, this feature is a lower priority untill the bigger issues are solved.
KG26_Alpha
03-27-2012, 07:51 PM
Nice jab. I myself have been involved with numerous "bigger things" so your assumption doesn't really fit. I've flown in online wars, the USL, etc and every time I found it much simpler to just join via direct connect than waste time fiddling with hyperlobby.
It wasnt directly aimed at you but a general statement for those reading.
von Pilsner
03-27-2012, 07:53 PM
The point is not about how the folks communicate once they've already formed a group, the problem is that its not possible to form that group by joining a TS. I can't ask the TS fairy what IP address will bring me to the right group of sim pilots.
Objectively speaking, what is good about HL? Other than the chat, what does HL have that an ingame lobby doesn't?
When I heard that CloD was going to be on steam I was actually kind of happy... I figured the servers and squads would all form steam-groups and players would join the appropriate group(s)... This would have allowed squads to have an instant blog style place to meet up and communicate (via steam) with chat or voice (yes, I honestly thought people would just use steam for voice chat since it's built in).
I also thought the individual servers would have their own steam groups for communication, announcements, posting events, map rotations, etc...
A chat lobby in game and better integration with steam servers (like l4d2) could have turned out completely differently... then folks who are not into the forums would find the CloD related groups (squads) and servers on steam and we'd all be more of a community....
Instead we are pining for HL (which is great!!!) but it seems like we really just need better mp lobbies in-game that accomodate coop style gameplay and pre-mission chat (and maybe better integration with between the servers and steam itself).
5./JG27.Farber
03-27-2012, 08:43 PM
When I heard that CloD was going to be on steam I was actually kind of happy... I figured the servers and squads would all form steam-groups and players would join the appropriate group(s)... This would have allowed squads to have an instant blog style place to meet up and communicate (via steam) with chat or voice (yes, I honestly thought people would just use steam for voice chat since it's built in).
I also thought the individual servers would have their own steam groups for communication, announcements, posting events, map rotations, etc...
A chat lobby in game and better integration with steam servers (like l4d2) could have turned out completely differently... then folks who are not into the forums would find the CloD related groups (squads) and servers on steam and we'd all be more of a community....
...it seems like we really just need better mp lobbies in-game that accomodate coop style gameplay and pre-mission chat (and maybe better integration with between the servers and steam itself).
Indeed, However no such Coop on par with the old game exists. I think you have something we the steam groups. My unit has a steam group and placing events in the Schedule is useful for reminding people its time for training, etc. The "Schedule event" feature of "Groups" is often over looked.
I got really annoyed with HL in 1946 with the game mods because it only recognises one installation and the clunky interface is so outdated its very difficult to change the directory of the installation and do other things aswell! HL brought us lots of things in MP, they only other option was X-fire which was painful. As for the Chat feature - both Warbirds of Prey and ATAG have a community Team speak which you are free to use! Why type when you can Speak? - its ten tis quicker and more personnel. Also the chat was a bit... - Useless unless you where a regular. There was a degree of regular chat and those members ignored the others. Occasionally you could get help there but mostly it was drowned out by the regulars who didnt care.
This of Course is my experience.
Also right now there is so much to do for those running servers. Steam kicking servers, building missions, Scripting, Stats, Clod issues etc etc plus the running of your own unit! Altering the server to suit HL which only shows a fraction of the small amount of servers in an already complicated system (which is like stacking cards) is just out of the question.
I'd like to thank HL for what it gave us in the past but without a serious face lift of the GUI and as least hassle as possible to those running the servers I can't see it standing up to the errosion of time! What would be great is if it autodetected steam servers and added them there so those that wanted to use HL could have a greater range of servers. However I do not even know if this is possible? Perhaps with a copy of the game telling HL what was there in Steam everyone could be satisfied.
Wow thats a good thought! Servers to have steam Groups! Warbirds of Prey and ATAG - where are your steam groups?
CaptainDoggles
03-27-2012, 08:48 PM
When I heard that CloD was going to be on steam I was actually kind of happy... I figured the servers and squads would all form steam-groups and players would join the appropriate group(s)... This would have allowed squads to have an instant blog style place to meet up and communicate (via steam) with chat or voice (yes, I honestly thought people would just use steam for voice chat since it's built in).
I also thought the individual servers would have their own steam groups for communication, announcements, posting events, map rotations, etc... Me too. They still might, who knows? So many squads aren't making the change over because of the shoddy state of the game. If/when more squads come and if some better features make it into the multiplayer GUI then there might be one.
A chat lobby in game and better integration with steam servers (like l4d2) could have turned out completely differently... then folks who are not into the forums would find the CloD related groups (squads) and servers on steam and we'd all be more of a community....
Instead we are pining for HL (which is great!!!) but it seems like we really just need better mp lobbies in-game that accomodate coop style gameplay and pre-mission chat (and maybe better integration with between the servers and steam itself).Never played l4d2 but it sounds like a decent system. Maybe even just a button in the multiplayer gui that launches the steam community overlay with the server's steam group.
ATAG_Bliss
03-27-2012, 09:02 PM
Here you go. Join up!
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ATAG
5./JG27.Farber
03-27-2012, 09:18 PM
and another:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/5JG27PSG
(5./JG27's Public Server Group, updates of whats going on on the server, reminders of scheduled events, etc.)
Ataros
03-27-2012, 09:53 PM
In case someone missed this general group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/IL2COD join it now.
mxmadman
03-27-2012, 09:59 PM
Just checked out the ATAG and jg27 group links and it sayd no messages and no planned events. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Id definitely like to find a group of guys to fly with (especially in an even with an actual goal, regardless of the style).
Any help in that regard is appreciated.
5./JG27.Farber
03-27-2012, 10:07 PM
I just made ours in response to this thread, there is one message now. - Expect more in the future!
5./JG27.Farber
03-27-2012, 10:13 PM
In case someone missed this general group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/IL2COD join it now.
Already in it! :-P
von Pilsner
03-27-2012, 10:34 PM
Thanks for the links!!! I have joined all the groups now.
Now we just need (a bit better) steam group support in-game. :D
I noticed direct connect links on some of the CloD themed Steam group pages, nice work!
ATAG1 Direct Connect (steam://connect/216.52.148.29:27016)
ATAG2 Direct Connect (steam://connect/216.52.143.205:27016)
5./JG27 Direct Connect (steam://connect/70.176.212.41:27015)
SlipBall
03-27-2012, 10:38 PM
Will this be the final nail for HL for Clod users?
5./JG27.Farber
03-27-2012, 10:48 PM
Will this be the final nail for HL for Clod users?
Who knows? I cant say I hate HL (Except the GUI), it was our friend in the dark days of IL2 1946 when it was practically the only way to play IL2 multiplayer other than direct connection. However its a bit like an old soldier, needed at the time but obselete in the future. Sad but true.
S! Hyper Lobby.
I hope you embrace the future and do well! Heres to the past we had! :-P
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