Poor Choice of Words...

[EZ1]

One of the game-generated (I think) messages uses a poor choice of words. The message is something like "Xyz murdered the tail gunner...". This is not "murder" unless that tail gunner was tied to a tree or dangling in his shute. Can't we just say killed.:confused:

[Freycinet]

I suggest "assassinated" or "butchered". Or maybe "plinked"?

[ATAG_Snapper]

"Given the chop"?

[Ibis]

Resting maybe?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218

cheers,
Ibis

[White Owl]

It's a good point. Military combatants do not murder each other; they kill each other. "Murder" implies an illegal act.

[_RAAF_Smouch]

The gunner/pilot whatever suffered a sudden case of lead poisoning :-P:-P

[Sturm_Williger]

Do agree with the OP, I've seen that in several screenshots and it always jars.

"killed" is more than adequate.

[nearmiss]

It's a good point. Military combatants do not murder each other; they kill each other. "Murder" implies an illegal act.

I think it probably doesn't make a difference to the dead man how his demise is described. Dead is dead.

[JG52Uther]

As a suggesion put it in this thread (in the correct format please) as it will have a better chance of getting noticed.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28341

[machoo]

"Took an arrow to the knee" ????

[addman]

"Took an arrow to the knee" ????

Oh no you did not! Why not throw in a "the cake is a lie" joke to top it all off eh! :D

[Nephris]

What about nailed ?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

What about nailed ?
I have allways liked Dispatched..

But here are some other ways to put it

1: Dispatched
2: Departed This Life
3: Deceased
4: Entred Apon an Eternal Sabbath of Rest
5: Fell a Victim to an Untimely Disease
6: Departed This Transitory Life
7: Killed by the Fall of a Tree
8: Left Us
9: Obit
10: Slain by the Enemy
11: Departed This Stage of Existence
12: Went Rejoycing Out of This World
13: Submiting Her Self to ye Will of God
14: Fell Asleep
15: Changed a Fleeting World for an Immortal Rest
16: Fell Asleep in the Cradle of Death
17: Fell Aslep in Jesus
18: Was Still Born
19: Innocently Retired
20: Expired
21: Perished in a Storm
22: Departed from This in Hope of a Better Life
23: Summoned to Appear Before His Judge
24: Liv'd About 2 Hours
25: Rose Upon the Horizon of Perfect Endless Day
26: Peracto Hac Vita
27: Bid Farewell to this World
28: Was Barbarously Murdered in his Own Home by Gages Bloody Troops
29: Kill'd by a Cart
30: Killed by a Waggon
31: Passed to the Summer Land
32: Joined the Congregation of the Dead
33: Exchanged Worlds
34: Changed this Mortal Life for that of Immortality
35: Her Longing Spirit Sprung
36: Lost at Sea
37: Hung
38: Finish'd a Life of Examplary Piety
39: Breathed Her Soul Away Into Her Saviour's Arms
40: Second Birth
41: Passed Into the World of Spirits
42: Fell by the Hands of . . . an Infatuated Man
43: Expired in the Faith of Christ
44: Ended All Her Cares in Quiet Death
45: Yielding Up Her Spirit
46: Clos'd This Earthly Scene
47: Her Existence Terminated
48: Rested From ye Pains & Sorrows of This Life
49: Inhumanly Murdered by Cruel Savages
50: Entered the Regions of Immortal Felicity
51: Lost His Life By a Fall From a Tree
52: Fell Bravely Fighting for the Liberties of His Country
53: Finished a Long and Useful Life
54: Was Shot by a Negroe Soldier
55: Drowned
56: Was Found Lashed to the Mast of His Sunken and Ill-Fated Vessel
57: Began to Dissolve
58: Died . . . From Stabs Inflicted With a Knife
59: Basely Assassinated
60: Resigned His Soul to God
61: Fell on Sleep and Was Laid Unto His Fathers
62: Made His Exit
63: Supposed Foundered at Sea
64: Quitted the Stage
65: Earth Life Closed
66: Frozen to Death
67: Was Called to Close His Eyes on Mortal Things
68: Chearfully Resigned Her Spret Into the Hand of Jesus
69: Entred into His Heavenly House
70: . . . For A Never Ending Eternity
71: Yielded Her Spirit to Its Benevolent Author
72: Lost on Look-Out Shoals
73: Exchanged This for a Better Life
74: Rested From the Hurry of Life
75: Received a Mortal Wound on His Head
76: Died Tryumphingly in Hops of a Goyful Resurrection
77: Kill'd By Lightening
78: Left It
79: Whose Deaths . . . Were Occasioned by the Explosion of the Powder Mill
80: Translation to ye Temple Above
81: Resigned His Mortal Life
82: Call'd . . . To His Reward
83: Arrested by Death
84: . . . And Have Never Since Been Heard of
85: Gone Home
86: Resigned This Life in Calm and Humble Hope of Heaven
87: Was Released
88: Left Her Weeping Friends
89: Laid His Hoary Head to Rest Beneath This Mournful Turf
90: Rested From His Labors
91: Quitted the Stage
92: Was Casually Shot
93: Cut Down in the Bloom of Life
94: Unhappily Parish'd in the Flames
95: Unveiled
96: Nobly Fell By the Impious Hand of Treason and Rebellion
97: Fell in Battle at Molino del Rey
98: Remanded
99: Translated to His Masters Joy
100: Bid Adieu to Earthly Scenes
101: I Am Only Going Into Another Room
102: Was Taken By Death From His Mother's Breasts
103: Was Suffocated
104: Left to Go and Be With Christ
105: Left This World
106: Passed Onward
107: Passed Away
108: Perished With 41 Other Persons
109: Killed By Falling From Cliffs
110: Vanquished the World and Relinquished It
111: Was Removed By a Dysentery
112: Died in His Country[']s Service
113: Commenced Her Inseparable Union with Her Much Beloved Husband and Her God
114: Was Drouned in a Tan Pit
115: Was Instantly Kill'd by a Stock of Boards
116: Submitted to the Stroke of All Conquering Death
117: Died of the 108 Convulsion Fit
118: Hurried From This Life

[kristorf]

I like 'popped his clog's' or 'left this mortal coil' ;)

[Ataros]

"Joined the majority" is optimistic ...and true :)

[JG52Uther]

Couldn't you change the messages in the conf.ini in il2 46, or am I imagining it?

[Tvrdi]

One of the game-generated (I think) messages uses a poor choice of words. The message is something like "Xyz murdered the tail gunner...". This is not "murder" unless that tail gunner was tied to a tree or dangling in his shute. Can't we just say killed.:confused:

You should hear what we had in ROF in first days lol.....well I dont take it as a big issue or problem; I mean the teams are from RU so english is not their first language...But they could ask some of the native speakers from hte community, thats for sure....

btw killed is better word for sure...murder is when a son decapsize his grandmother or something on that line...

[Osprey]

Nobody mentioned "skewered his catflap" ?

[baronWastelan]

"Xyz gave the tail gunner a Texas Lead Enema".

that better?

[Ataros]

Russian version has many mistakes also as if it was translated from English. One of community members collected all the mistakes and presented them to B6. Same happened with the German version. In one of updates B6 confirmed that they are changing Russian and German versions based on this data.

If someone collects English mistakes then they can fix them I think.

[carguy_]

One of the game-generated (I think) messages uses a poor choice of words. The message is something like "Xyz murdered the tail gunner...". This is not "murder" unless that tail gunner was tied to a tree or dangling in his shute. Can't we just say killed.:confused:

Would

"Xyz rendered the tail gunner unsuable"

satisfy you?

[swiss]

It's a good point. Military combatants do not murder each other; they kill each other. "Murder" implies an illegal act.

No, murder implies a plan, an intention to kill s.o.
It would be manslaughter, which makes me think we should call it:
...slaughtered tail gunner. :-P


Then again it's bs.
As an ex tank commander I can tell you we have the full intention to kill the enemy tank's crew and not the tank per se.
Why should you judge pilots different?
Why did so many pilots explicit aim for the cockpit?

[bongodriver]

No, murder implies a plan, an intention to kill s.o.
It would be manslaughter, which makes me think we should call it:
...slaughtered tail gunner. :-P


Then again it's bs.
As an ex tank commander I can tell you we have the full intention to kill the enemy tank's crew and not the tank per se.
Why should you judge pilots different?
Why did so many pilots explicit aim for the cockpit?

Exactly....it's not like infantry try to shoot the weapons out of the enemy's hands, to make the shots count you have to take the person out.

[julien673]

Terminated !!!

[Bussard_1]

Retired!

[Hunden]

"Punctured in several places" sounds politically correct :shock:

[Hunden]

No, murder implies a plan, an intention to kill s.o.
It would be manslaughter, which makes me think we should call it:
...slaughtered tail gunner. :-P


Then again it's bs.
As an ex tank commander I can tell you we have the full intention to kill the enemy tank's crew and not the tank per se.
Why should you judge pilots different?
Why did so many pilots explicit aim for the cockpit?

Being an ex tank commander myself when engaging infantry we always aimed at their cartridge belts to make them unserviceable.

[swiss]

lol

[raaaid]

well people should know what theyre doing even if its virtual

nobody forces us to shoot after all


edit:

life has misterious ways:

five years ago i made a post in the ubizoo saying it should appear a message saying MURDER when you killed someone since it was your choice to kill him without need

i was called troll but trully i was being a pionner

edit:

as an english filologist ill add that murder come from mordrod from the arthurian legends, and shooting someone from his six is like backstubbing

assesinate comes from hachis, the subsatnce with which certain arab assasins got rewarded with

[JG52Krupi]

Raaaid the day that you are a pioneer will be the day that I am master of the universe! ;)

[bongodriver]

it's philologist

[swiss]

it's futile

[raaaid]

they said it in matrix:

the first matrix was perfect but people rejected it

the second matrix was nasty and unhappy and people aceppted it

no wonder seeing the virtual worlds

[swiss]

http://www.filehurricane.com/photos/6102008100435AM_suicide-balls.jpg

[fruitbat]

Gone for a Burton.

[raaaid]

geez gotta wonder what did you google to find that image

man do you realize thats sick

are you some kind of hannibal lecter?

maybe youve noticed my less posting no wonder

[drewpee]

Fingered, had the Richard, porcked, left the building, caught a bullet, ate a lead sandwich.

Theres lots to choose from. But I find the may names for boobs much more entertaining.:grin:

[swiss]

geez gotta wonder what did you google to find that image

are you some kind of hannibal lecter?


Wait...

http://questionabletopic.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/homicide.jpg




man do you realize thats sick

Have you ever questioned your mental state?

[raaaid]

my mental state is self admited slightly deluded so your just being plain rude

do you really think that a person is crazy like me is a reason to look down on him?

man hitler wasnt crazy, crazeness and badness have nothing to do

first you suggest me i should comit suicide

then you suggest im a potential homicide for being crazy

sunch a lack of style man...

[bongodriver]

He is Swiss.....suicide is a dignified way to end misery.

Style?....alegedly you have spent time studying philology and marine engineering (at whose cost?) with no intention of using it in a professional vocation, instead you do nothing more than draw bizarre technical diagrams in crayon and animating weird clay figures, making disturbing videos on youtube of you torturing insects.......my instinst tell me you should have studied art....or did you do that too in your productive adult life?

[raaaid]

im not torturing insects at all

im just petting a fly

if you saw somebody petting a dog would you say he is torturing him?

and if you think my clay video weird you should see the others avalaible


tell me exactly whats weird about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtkh9nL7q4&list=UUYQFAGpkzeOzPbniEw3BIRg&index=4&feature=plpp_video

[bongodriver]

petting a dog is normal and dogs like it....flies?.....not so much.

[raaaid]

well if you aproach your finger to a fly it will fly away

they dont fly away with me normally which allowed me once to killed 30 flies in a streak, time when i stopped killing flies, someone wouldnt believe that so i recorde the video

but in no way im torturing and its totally free judge by yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV8tL-Y3kPQ&list=UUYQFAGpkzeOzPbniEw3BIRg&index=7&feature=plpp_video

edit:

not normal of course

bad in no way

[bongodriver]

I have had flies land on my face......in your world does that mean the fly is giving me a big friendly wet kiss?

yes folks....look at the vid and judge for yourselves.

[raaaid]

and what do you have to say of me making a thread five years ago saying that the console should say murder instead of kill?

that youre crazy doesnt mean you have to be wrong

in fact quamtum bizarreness shows its betterr to be slightly crazy to understand things

ratinalism crurashed with the confirmation of quamtum entanglement

even pseudothelepathy is scientifically accepted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_pseudo-telepathy

hey maybe were in pseudo telpathic contact thought the forum entanglement

swiss is praying to god so i kill myself you think i should be locked up and i put people in good positive mood(well to some the contrary it seems)

[raaaid]

I have had flies land on my face......in your world does that mean the fly is giving me a big friendly wet kiss?

yes folks....look at the vid and judge for yourselves.

of course

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rxk56PV-bY

edit:

what people should consider:

why am i virtually killing people?

to protect my country? to protect myself? to protect my family? to gain anything?

nahhhhh just for fun i like killing other humans and then appear machiavelic messages like this pilot got roasted extracrispy in his burning cockpit

yeah thats why we play

[swiss]

swiss is praying to god so i kill myself you think i should be locked up and i put people in good positive mood(well to some the contrary it seems)

I don't believe in God(nor anything supernatural), sorry.
I'm just suggesting. :-P

You should listen to bongo, Art is the way to go for you - the best thing is you will be around weird minds like you all day long.


just a hypothetical but do you engage in faecal smearing? I'm not being rude, it's just you are so very open about your mental condition and it's not an uncommon syndrome among those who are challenged this way....it would explain your popularity with flies.

lol!

OT/Rem:
Last autumn a wasp bit my lip, guess that was some kind of a French kiss.

[raaaid]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57372861-71/bbc-confronts-facebook-troll/?tag=mncol;editorPicks

[bongodriver]

When you go looking for attention......don't be surprised if some of it offends you, in your case raaaid you are the troll, you know full well that most of your posts will grate on the nerves of conventionality, you practically beg for the attention you are criticising here.

[raaaid]

well some of whats on this thread is law borderline, a good lawyer could make a case of harrasment and incitation at suicide

something like trolling a rip, oh he was calling for attention why did he publish it in the net, he is exercing his freedom of speech so i exerce mine insulting him

[bongodriver]

well some of whats on this thread is law borderline, a good lawyer could make a case of harrasment and incitation at suicide

something like trolling a rip, oh he was calling for attention why did he publish it in the net, he is exercing his freedom of speech so i exerce mine insulting him

Most of yours flirt with the borderline, if it wasn't for the fact you aren't a new member you could be banned for spam.

[nearmiss]

This thread has gone beyond...

Time to get back to a more fulfilling life

[JG52Uther]

As a suggesion put it in this thread (in the correct format please) as it will have a better chance of getting noticed.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28341

Did anyone bother reporting the issue as suggested? Either way, this thread is done.