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Gollum
11-04-2011, 02:11 PM
The good news.... I joined ATAG server last night and there were 57 people on. Thats awesome. I really hope the community continues to grow.
The bad news....
A) It is still extremely difficult to find a fight and maintain visual contact on your prey even with 57 people on the server. I constantly see things and they vanish in mid air.
B) Time Bandit has been drafted into the RAF. Last night I spent 45 minutes looking for a fight. I finally found one and dove on a spitfire. He took a shallow banking right and I had the perfect deflection shot lined up. I pulled the trigger watching my rounds heading for his wings... Little did I know, the pilot of this aircraft was the seldom seen but much feared Time Bandit. Just as they were about to demolish his airframe, Time Bandit hit is emergency chronosphere button and slid 2 miles in front of me at an estimated 2000 KPH. After he was clear out of range of my guns he banked a 20 G right turn continuing at 2000 KPH until he was right behind me firing away... I quickly lost my surface controls and plumeted to the earth....
I wish I had a video of this. If the RAF had the Time Bandit on their side the BOB would have been over much sooner.
I love this game but damn was that frustrating. Please fix this soon so playing online doesn't feel like such a waste of time.
Just a friendly warning to my fellow pilots. If you meet time bandit just do yourself a favor and bail out before he gets his finger on that chronosphere button.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=time+bandit&start=296&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1920&bih=934&tbm=isch&tbnid=KV-IkJRLfVpJ3M:&imgrefurl=http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare2/timebandits.htm&docid=t4PdqSghzk6NRM&imgurl=http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews51/time_bandits_blu-ray/large/large_time_bandits_blu-ray_2.jpg&w=1920&h=1080&ei=ZwO0TuCJH4L10gHo5_zGBA&zoom=1&chk=sbg&iact=hc&vpx=517&vpy=650&dur=3635&hovh=168&hovw=300&tx=105&ty=235&sig=103047865717014175961&page=10&tbnh=167&tbnw=234&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:296
-Gollum:(
FFCW_Urizen
11-04-2011, 02:16 PM
Read you rambling about it yesterday, had something like that on the Repka server, dove onto a spit, which went into a light turn, giving me the perfect position to fire, the moment i hit that plane, it literally breaked so hard, that i almost rammed it. but since i got the pilot, it didn´t pursue and went down.
what you describe is a simple lag, in your case it has been disastrous to you. the same can happen in any game.
just my 2c
Gollum
11-04-2011, 02:21 PM
Read you rambling about it yesterday, had something like that on the Repka server, dove onto a spit, which went into a light turn, giving me the perfect position to fire, the moment i hit that plane, it literally breaked so hard, that i almost rammed it. but since i got the pilot, it didn´t pursue and went down.
what you describe is a simple lag, in your case it has been disastrous to you. the same can happen in any game.
just my 2c
I understand... Lag can suck. I'm no programmer but someone mentioned yesterday that it could also be caused by a memory leak or code issue within the game? (not saying that lag isnt the cause but maybe the code issue or memory leak is causing excessive lag?)
It also doesn't help that amost all the servers are in the UK or russia and I'm in NYC but everyone was experiencing the same issue. Isn't there some type of optimization that developers do on the servers / game? That was the whole reason for the BF3 beta I thought. To test the servers / how the game would run with lots of people playing.
I hope the game gets more popular over here.
FFCW_Urizen
11-04-2011, 02:24 PM
the ATAG server is located in the US, Nuclear Fallout Enterprises seems to host it, yep it does: http://www.nfoservers.com/ .
The memory leak seems to cause the Launcher.exe issue, where the game hits a certain percentage of ramusage and it crashes.
Gollum
11-04-2011, 02:29 PM
the ATAG server is located in the US, Nuclear Fallout Enterprises seems to host it, yep it does: http://www.nfoservers.com/ .
The memory leak seems to cause the Launcher.exe issue, where the game hits a certain percentage of ramusage and it crashes.
so if the server is in the us and close to me your saying that the game will never be able to support more than 50 people or so? Theres got to be some optimization and it's not just regular lagg? or is it just that this game has no official servers provided by the devs with mondo server machines ect..?
FFCW_Urizen
11-04-2011, 02:39 PM
i have to admit, that i can´t say anything on that. would be nice, if some atag guy could say something about their server, other than it´s a whole lot of fun nonetheless :D .
CaptainDoggles
11-04-2011, 03:06 PM
The good news.... I joined ATAG server last night and there were 57 people on. Thats awesome. I really hope the community continues to grow.
The bad news....
A) It is still extremely difficult to find a fight and maintain visual contact on your prey even with 57 people on the server. I constantly see things and they vanish in mid air.We call those Ghosts, and they're normally sprites that appear where AI bombers previously were. After a while you learn to deal with them.
As far as spotting fighters, it's more difficult than 1946 but once you get the hang of it it's not so bad. Just give it time and you'll naturally get better.
B) Time Bandit has been drafted into the RAF. Last night I spent 45 minutes looking for a fight. I finally found one and dove on a spitfire. He took a shallow banking right and I had the perfect deflection shot lined up. I pulled the trigger watching my rounds heading for his wings... Little did I know, the pilot of this aircraft was the seldom seen but much feared Time Bandit. Just as they were about to demolish his airframe, Time Bandit hit is emergency chronosphere button and slid 2 miles in front of me at an estimated 2000 KPH. After he was clear out of range of my guns he banked a 20 G right turn continuing at 2000 KPH until he was right behind me firing away... I quickly lost my surface controls and plumeted to the earth.... Just network lag again. It's too bad it resulted in getting shot down but that's the reality of online games I'm afraid. The next patch is supposed to help with these stutters.
CaptainDoggles
11-04-2011, 03:08 PM
so if the server is in the us and close to me your saying that the game will never be able to support more than 50 people or so? Theres got to be some optimization and it's not just regular lagg? or is it just that this game has no official servers provided by the devs with mondo server machines ect..?
I've played on ATAG when there were 80+ people on and it was fine.
The memory leak you've been hearing about is in the client. After a while your game will eat up all your system memory and then crash.
To combat this I exit and restart my game after every sortie. It changes a super irritating bug to something only mildly annoying.
Qpassa
11-04-2011, 03:33 PM
or you can buy more RAM
Gollum
11-04-2011, 03:54 PM
As far as spotting fighters, it's more difficult than 1946 but once you get the hang of it it's not so bad. Just give it time and you'll naturally get better.
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Been playing since release. It hasn't gotten any easier... It's usually just luck when I see something below me, and even after spotting a contact, trying to keep an eye on it over land is impossible. as soon as it flys over anything but a golden field it's gone. (I fly 109 so am always at 3k or higher)
Chivas
11-04-2011, 04:15 PM
Its not hard to find the fighting if your using Teamspeak or whatever communications the people on the server are using.
l3uLLDoZeR
11-04-2011, 04:17 PM
I lose planes all the time...pretty much if I look away from them for any period of time I don't see them again until they're shooting me down.
ATAG server is in Chicago..i have the crappiest DSL on earth and my ping is 60. The ones in russia give me like 120 ping, they all seem to work though.
I have experienced stuff like you descibe...but who cares, 49 other people are on the server. Chase a different plane...most dont lag, but ive seen a few people with 600+ pings.
If you spent more time playing and getting better you would be better at it. When you complain, just remember I'm the one shooting YOU down with a Xbox360 controller!!
FFCW_Urizen
11-04-2011, 04:22 PM
you are kidding right, dozer, i mean, c´mon, x360 controller :D
mjfur
11-04-2011, 05:49 PM
Why can't I find the Teamspeak3 server for ATAG? The game server page shows it as 216.52.XXX.XX. I've searched all Teamspeak3 servers and can't find 216.52.XX.XXX.
snwkill
11-04-2011, 06:03 PM
Why can't I find the Teamspeak3 server for ATAG? The game server page shows it as 216.52.XXX.XX. I've searched all Teamspeak3 servers and can't find 216.52.XX.XXX.
I have it at home... I thought they had it in the description when you click on their server in game
snwkill
11-04-2011, 06:08 PM
http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/
scroll to the bottom on the left hand side
216.52.148.29:9987
mjfur
11-04-2011, 06:19 PM
http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/
scroll to the bottom on the left hand side
216.52.148.29:9987
Thanks for your help.
I know what the I.P. number is, my problem was finding it when I opened Teamspeak. I couldn't/can't find that I.P. in the list of available servers to join.
FFCW_Urizen
11-04-2011, 06:28 PM
iirc has the serversearch in Teamspeak, regardless of it being version 2 or 3 been buggy.
Warhound
11-04-2011, 07:30 PM
Thanks for your help.
I know what the I.P. number is, my problem was finding it when I opened Teamspeak. I couldn't/can't find that I.P. in the list of available servers to join.
copy paste from another thread :
Bookmarks/manage bookmarks/add bookmark, then fill in the details of the server you want. From then on that server will be saved and you can select it under the main bookmarks menu.
Forget about the TS search function. :grin:
CaptainDoggles
11-04-2011, 08:28 PM
Been playing since release. It hasn't gotten any easier... It's usually just luck when I see something below me, and even after spotting a contact, trying to keep an eye on it over land is impossible. as soon as it flys over anything but a golden field it's gone. (I fly 109 so am always at 3k or higher)
I fly the 109, too. Trust me, it gets easier eventually.
Skoshi Tiger
11-04-2011, 09:47 PM
[QUOTE=Gollum;358065]The good news.... I joined ATAG server last night and there were 57 people on. Thats awesome. I really hope the community continues to grow.
The bad news....
A) It is still extremely difficult to find a fight and maintain visual contact on your prey even with 57 people on the server. I constantly see things and they vanish in mid air.
[QUOTE]
Make sure that you have calibrated your monitor correctly. it makes a world of difference in spotting the small dots in the distance. Before I was given this advice last week I couldn't see squat. The image looked great but I just could not see the other aircraft in the above a couple of hundred metres. Post calibration its a completely different sim when you can see the other planes.
Cheers
CaptainDoggles
11-04-2011, 11:39 PM
Make sure that you have calibrated your monitor correctly. it makes a world of difference in spotting the small dots in the distance. Before I was given this advice last week I couldn't see squat. The image looked great but I just could not see the other aircraft in the above a couple of hundred metres. Post calibration its a completely different sim when you can see the other planes.
Cheers
What exactly do you mean by "calibrating" your monitor?
Kranak
11-05-2011, 01:15 AM
or you can buy more RAM
I get the L.e crashes too but i figured 12gigs would have been enough.
FFCW_Urizen
11-05-2011, 01:38 PM
ATAG Server, this morning, at an altitude of approx. 4000m, i got shot by a hurri/spit (i don´t remember exactly, what it was), luckily, i was just leaking. And, oh, do i have luck, my opponent stalled, went down, i went after him, and he recovered from the stall. with me on the tail he leveled out, turning right. i was still on him, having the e-advantage, everything prepped and ready, having the perfect solution and then, stuttering. game went down from smooth 30 fps down to 0.00000000something fps. I almost ate my keyboard.
sorry fellas, just had to vent.
Feathered_IV
11-05-2011, 02:19 PM
I think the 11mb 4096x4096 DDS pilot skin and matching 20mb 'NM.DDS alpha layer tends to do that when you get in close.
Try this see if it helps any, better then nothing
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
JG5_emil
11-06-2011, 09:10 AM
or you can buy more RAM
After 3.2 gig it doesn't use any more RAM. I've got 8 gig and still get the memory leak.
ATAG_Striker
11-09-2011, 01:51 PM
Ok guys figure i post up in here. everyone experiencing the client launcher .exe crash it a memory leak as far as i know server can host 100 players ive seen it 95 players one night server was doing great. Answer question with the lag it might not be the server as it can be your connection to the server. Really depends on how you got your internet network setup wireless or hard wire setup and Isp Bandwidth. Any Questions please feel free to hop on ATAG Teamspeak glad to help you out.
:smile:
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