Saitek x52Pro and Pedals £150 yes or no?

[Ze-Jamz]

been offered these for £150..and the pedals are only 3 weeks old

Stick has around 30 hours give or take

Im just torn between this or spend nearly half again and get the Logitech G940 which tbh i cant afford yet so would have to wait

What would you do? views?

[jimbop]

been offered these for £150..and the pedals are only 3 weeks old

Stick has around 30 hours give or take

Im just torn between this or spend nearly half again and get the Logitech G940 which tbh i cant afford yet so would have to wait

What would you do? views?

I own the stick and am not impressed, especially with the fine movement around the centre. The interior build quality leaves much to be desired. Can't comment on the logitech although I have cannibalised the cheaper Extreme 3D Pro electronics in the past and was more impressed with this than the Saitek.

[JG52Krupi]

been offered these for £150..and the pedals are only 3 weeks old

Stick has around 30 hours give or take

Im just torn between this or spend nearly half again and get the Logitech G940 which tbh i cant afford yet so would have to wait

What would you do? views?

I would say yes if you need a stick and throttle!

The stick is not great, the throttle is quite good lots of buttons and it cost me £100 for the pedals alone.. not too bad a deal.

[pupo162]

been offered these for £150..and the pedals are only 3 weeks old

Stick has around 30 hours give or take

Im just torn between this or spend nearly half again and get the Logitech G940 which tbh i cant afford yet so would have to wait

What would you do? views?

g940 is a pain i nthe arse. throtle as life span of 100 hours or so. im about to take my second unit for replacement once i find the recipt again.

[Ze-Jamz]

Thanks for the replies lads though they don't help :)

Hmm Saitek stick being like the old on then, I brought the original x52 when they first came out and sent it back 5 days later due to it centre deadzone..seriously annoying!

But the g940 doesn't sound like much either..


I missed out a wathog for £210 secondhand but tbh I think it's a bit overkill for this game as I don't play any other sims although I see it being excellent for DCS.

I don't know what to do, as much as I think they look boring I'm starting to think the CH stuff just cuz I never hear anything bad about them, they just look crap imo.

Part of me is thinking £150 isn't slot to spend on a entire setup but then you can get the g940 for just over £200 now.

So still none the wiser..

[JG52Uther]

I still say CH.Yes they look rubbish for what they are, but they are pretty much indestructible,and if you ever get bored of flight sims,selling them on will be easy.

Fighterstick on Amazon= £97.72
Pedals from Fightstore=£110.49

Not cheap,but they will last a lot longer than saitek,or the G940 IMO.

Play do the X52 standard for £79.97 though, so its a tough call.

[retrojet]

I went from a logitech ff and no pedals, to this same saitek setup.
Not a lot of hrs yet, so still sharp.
But I do miss the ff... I know the 940 has a bad rap... But I would still consider it, as long as logitech offer a decent return policy...
Still, according to me missus, I'm lucky to get what I got :
Need to win the lottery to make she who must be obeyed happy! :-D

[Tiger27]

I bought my Fighterstick second hand 8 or 9 years ago, and it still works flawlessly, combined with some nice simped rudder pedals and a ch throttle quadrant you cant go wrong.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Had some software issues with my G940, but it now works like a dream. (It only took me three months to work it out).

No longer considering selling, it's the veritable dog's taters.

I'd say go for the G940. It feels so good.

[FS~Phat]

I have both X52 and X52pro too and the pro pedals as well and they are all great.
The pro has better tension than the standard X52 and I dont have a problem with it.
I did the X52 pro magnet/hall sensor mod about 6 months ago which dramatically improved centre sensitivity. The software is great, the number of switches, hats and axis is awesome. I have had the pro since they released several years ago with not one problem! The pedals are great as long as you have something to hold them in place, as they are not that heavy and willl move on carpet or floorboards. They are durable though as long as you dont try push your self out from your desk as I have done a few times. This can cause the internal mech to become unaligned and jam and you then have to take it apart and realign it.
Not a huge problem as it has never actually broken but you just have to remember not to push against both pedals at once with too much force! I havent done this for a long time now (several years) and they are still working as good as new!

I have tried some of the cheaper logitech sticks and a G940 in a shop but didnt like the feel of the G940 and the cheap Logitech 3d extreme pro only lasted 2-3months before becoming a twitching quivering mess!

IMHO the only sticks worth considering are X52pro, almost any CH stick or the Warthog.

[FS~Phat]

Hey Phat,

Like I said in my earlier post, I've considered the mod for a long time, but as I really don't have that much sloppiness now (or, at least still the stock sloppiness) I haven't really felt the need to spend the time on doing the mod. Would you really recommend it?

Yes it makes the stick farrr more sensitive around the centre axis and also allows for proper concentric circles in joytest which means left right aileron movements wont influence elevator and visa versa!

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1p9DryJ_fgjRDksrICe6eTilfcZO17pMj8eX_W6DIJuiViRW8 uVtBFTiW1ksvMdDZCecnLTDouBH0/IMG_2157.JPG?psid=1

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1p1Qs_ar_7A77j2VBtuLvQ2ngBuaQlFQCN7uWPWfPOlK8M0L6 9IPSZTHN_fU9G16rQQZ8LA5HnRmE/IMG_2160.JPG?psid=1

Heres the result from someone elses joystick but mine was exactly the same.

Before
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7219/01sinttulo1.jpg

After
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6333/dibujo1ms.jpg

[jimbop]

Yes, the magnet mod is almost compulsory for the x52 IMHO. I did mine with paper clips to support the magnets which was very easy to install.

Regarding the spring tension I went the other way and reduced it using some cable ties. Reducing the tension makes the centre much easier to handle accurately.

[jayrc]

my x52 just died, lights kept flashing on and off, had it less than a year, throttle still working, took the stick apart and found broken wire and fried circuit board, will be going with ch fighterstick.

[SYN_Repent]

ch fighter stick is the best stick i have ever owned, get a second hand x52 and use the throttle, with some pedals you then have a good setup.

[Ze-Jamz]

Well ive made my choice...G940

Ive read bad reviews on all the sticks.even the Warthog with its intermittent throttle problem...i guess its like anything, for 1 bad review there are 50 people that love the product..

I hope i dont regret it, only time will tell

What helped make my mind up is the FFB, never had it before and if its as good as they say it is im looking forward to trying it..

I paid £199 delivered so it was £50 more than the Saitek setup...

Ive had the X52 didnt like it
Ive got the CyborgX 6 months and its all over the place

Always had Logitech stuff and still have the Speakers..good quality for the ££

Il certainly keep you updated..

Anyone got any ideas on how I hide this setup from the GF?

[Artist]

Well ive made my choice...G940
[...]
I hope i dont regret it, only time will tell

Well, as an owner of a G940 let me assure you: It is a great piece of hardware - provided you've modded it (see here (http://forum.sturmovik.de/index.php/topic,173.msg5969.html#msg5969) or here (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23950)). Unmodded, the ReversalBug (http://lmgtfy.com?q=ReversalBug) in the rudder, throttle, and trim axes will make aiming and formation flying real hard work and will finally drive you to imagine that you are the bad pilot.

The throttle R1 and R2 spikes (http://lmgtfy.com?q=G940+R1+R2+spikes) after several hours of usage my or may not appear. Be prepared to exchange your G940 rather often - but when you've modded it, no warranty, so you might have to mod thet, too (see here (http://forum.sturmovik.de/index.php/topic,173.msg3332.html#msg3332))

Artist

[Tree_UK]

Ive had several x52's from the very first to the Pro, the pro version i had was awful in that the joystick was very notchy I tried all manner of fixes but none worked. I managed to get hold of another one which was alater version and its been sweet as nut. I think that on the whole £150 for the complete set is a good buy.

[Ze-Jamz]

Oh well too late now, guess i have to find out for myself.

there seems to be a few issues with the g940 as there are with a lot of sticks but Im hoping they are small enough for me to not notice or compensate for and hopefully will get addressed with firmware..

[Tree_UK]

Funny, I didn't see any white light or angels singing... but I agree with Tree for once, so I must have died and went to _______________. ;)

<hugs cheesehawk>

[Ze-Jamz]

'Ah' you guys...

[ATAG_Dutch]

Well ive made my choice...G940

Cool. Let me know how it goes. I now can't find anything to complain about with mine.;)

[Ze-Jamz]

Yea will do fellas

[Artist]

there seems to be a few issues with the g940 as there are with a lot of sticks but Im hoping they are small enough for me to not notice or compensate for
Could be - the community seem to be split (50-50?): There are many who have absolutely no problem with the ReversalBug and many (like me) who find it intolerable.

and hopefully will get addressed with firmware...
No, probably not:
(selfquote from another thread (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=306702&postcount=13))
[...] Only the X and Y axes of the stick are hall-sensored. All other axes have 'cheap' pots (I've seen those on the throttle-levers when I modded mine): trim1-3, throttle-levers 1 an 2, R1 and R2, the pedals, and the 2 toe-brakes.

Purportedly this is the reason why Logitech has fixed (well, minimized) the ReversalBug on X and Y axes of the stick, but has not done anything about all the other axes, and as rumour has it, will not ever (see here (http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=237240#p237240) and here (http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=260102#p260102)).

The reason behind this refusal is - again a rumour - that the ReversalBug prevents users from noticing the wearing-out of the cheap pots - because they're already used to this kind of behaviour. It makes sense to me, because the ReversalBug is, as Sokol1 wrote, in the Firmware and (a) was easily fixed for the hall sensored axes and completely disappears when you connect the pot-sensored axes to one of Bodnar's boards.

But then you can mod it anytime. We'll help :grin:

Artist

[303_Tees]

been offered these for £150..and the pedals are only 3 weeks old

Stick has around 30 hours give or take

Im just torn between this or spend nearly half again and get the Logitech G940 which tbh i cant afford yet so would have to wait

What would you do? views?
I had x52, get x52pro just week ago for 120euro whit free delivery

[Doc_uk]

Save up and get the warthog, you wont regret it :)

[Ze-Jamz]

Save up and get the warthog, you wont regret it :)

Too late Doc..

[MD_Titus]

if you do the magnet mod for the x52 then the fine control in the centre improves vastly. do have the rudder pedals but never got on with them, prefer the twisty stick in all honesty.

i'd heartily recommend taking this offer up tbh, £150 is a snip for the set.

[Ze-Jamz]

if you do the magnet mod for the x52 then the fine control in the centre improves vastly. do have the rudder pedals but never got on with them, prefer the twisty stick in all honesty.

i'd heartily recommend taking this offer up tbh, £150 is a snip for the set.

well ive already decided to get the g940

But tbh its not that good a price...you ca get the X52PRO and pedals NEW for £199 with free P&P

[ATAG_Bliss]

Gotta agree with the CH comments. Basically the 1st and last HOTAS you'll ever have to buy..

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7711/imag0013p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/imag0013p.jpg/)

[Ze-Jamz]

Nice setup mate

[ATAG_Dutch]

Gotta agree with the CH comments. Basically the 1st and last HOTAS you'll ever have to buy..

And is that a Gibson SG I see before me?;-)

[ATAG_Bliss]

Is that the infamous 12core, 48GB beast?
You better put some armed guards by that window! ;)

lol no. That's at a server farm. If I had a 1gbps connection at home, I'd probably never leave :)

And is that a Gibson SG I see before me?;-)

Yes it is. Good ol' SG standard. Now if I could only play like Angus :D.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Now if I could only play like Angus :D.

The Antipodeans do things differently. Just ask Skoshi.:grin:

[Ze-Jamz]

Well I'm glad I didn't get the saitek stuff as I've just bagged a 4month old G940 for just over £120 delivered

Happy days

[tintifaxl]

Well done Ze-Jamz. I did own both the X52Pro and the G940 and the Logitech is a much better setup and has FFB to boost. Very nice in IL2 and I think it'll be nice in COD, too.

The G940 had to go, when I got the Warthog for DCS-A10C, but as you're flying COD exclusively, it is a very good choice.

[klem]

Hey Phat,

Like I said in my earlier post, I've considered the mod for a long time, but as I really don't have that much sloppiness now (or, at least still the stock sloppiness) I haven't really felt the need to spend the time on doing the mod. Would you really recommend it?

Definitely, its quick and easy but only applies to the stick with its hall sensors. Eliminates any 'centrepoint' dead zone, it flows right through. Whether or not there is a 'deadzone' and having a sloppy stick due to spring weakness are two different things. My stick was very heavy when I got it but its nice and easy now.

My only beef is I can't find replacement switches nor the pots for the Throttle which, like any stick, wear out after some time. I've had my X52Pro for about 6 years and the rudders for about 4. One stick switch went 'sticky' about a year ago but has cleared up now. The X Rotary on the throttle has a worn centrepoint, too much elevator trimming :(

I would consider buying top CH stuff but I can't afford it.