Finally, The Battle of Britain

[SlipBall]

I decided to create a new thread from a post I made elsewhere. My hope is that people who are debating on an up-grade of their system, do so at a minimum cost. Just enough to play the game comfortably, possibly from used components. The goal being to not waste a lot of money, by going crazy on new high end hardware. I believe that the transistor as we know it, will be going away possibly as early as 2013...this thread is meant to inform the reader of coming memristor technology. and saving a buck:grin:



In 1971, electrical engineering professor Leon Chua proposed a theoretical basic electronics component called a memristor. In 2008, Hewlett Packard brought the memristor out of theory and into the real world. And today, HP announced (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8609885.stm) that they have finally proven that they can build devices that use memristors, instead of the transistors that enable all current computer chips. Since memristors can store and process data simultaneously, stack on top of one another in a 3-D fashion, and function at much smaller sizes than a transistor, this advance could increase the power and memory of computers to nearly unimaginable proportions within only a couple of years.

[White Owl]

The singularity approacheth! Skynet! The AI! Grab your tin-foil hats, burn your cell phones and run for the hills, folks!

[SlipBall]

The singularity approacheth! Skynet! The AI! Grab your tin-foil hats, burn your cell phones and run for the hills, folks!


I'm hoping graphics cards will be one of the first to be developed:grin:

[No601_Swallow]

Thanks Slipball. Velly Interllesting...

Here's a BBC radio programme discussing this very issue. It's entitled "The End of Moore's Law?" and is half an hour long.

They start discussing memristors at about the 18 minute mark.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00w7ccr

[Orpheus]

Good info, shame it'll be a fair while before we see it in production! :grin:

[Les]

Not meaning to de-rail the thread, but speaking of transistors and upcoming technology, Intel will be introducing chips that use 'Tri-Gate Transistors' late this year/next year. That alone could shake some things up a bit.

Here's a brief overview article - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2384909,00.asp

And here's an amusing video explaining things in more detail - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO7gElMdO6U

[Bryan21cag]

I decided to create a new thread from a post I made elsewhere. My hope is that people who are debating on an up-grade of their system, do so at a minimum cost. [/SIZE][/B].


LOL to late im afraid :) My impatient self bought the system in my sig 2 weeks before the Russian release of the game in hopes that it would be more than enough to run the game with all its awesomeness :P

My fault for being impatient but i have absolutely been having a blast with my new box though :) it runs everything else on the market like a dream and I do have high hopes that it will even be able to run CLOD silk smooth one day but thank you very much for the info.

This is really cool news and its also a very good feeling to know that one of the next big steps in tech will not only occur in my life time but while im am still young enough to enjoy its fruits for a long long time :)

Thanks again

Cheers

[kendo65]

This will take even longer than Bulldozer *





* AMD's much-anticipated new CPU which I was confidently informed would be out by April....2011 that is, not 2012.

Smug 2500K owner

[SlipBall]

This will take even longer than Bulldozer *





* AMD's much-anticipated new CPU which I was confidently informed would be out by April....2011 that is, not 2012.

Smug 2500K owner


Ha ha true enough!...I think that we will be able to enjoy all of COD's locked treasures in just 2 or 4 years. This advance is really just what we needed. To make this Sim reach all of its potential, while we are still young enough to enjoy it. Without it, it would have been a much longer time waiting, to be able to pack the skies with aircraft, and drive a Panzer:grin:


(quote) Bryan21cag
This is really cool news and its also a very good feeling to know that one of the next big steps in tech will not only occur in my life time but while im am still young enough to enjoy its fruits for a long long time :smile:


Yep, its like the invention of the wheel, everything will change rather quickly as a result. How bout not having to charge your cell phone till once a month or even longer, and as White Owl predicts a few scary things, like Hal.

[JimmyGiro]

"It's the economy, stupid."

The big firms in the technology market are all too busy making money out of old rope. They all have better products in the prototype phase, but don't introduce these things because we the public are still buying last years technology. After all, it costs a huge amount of money to retool manufacturing for truly new products, and there's no guarantee that it will sell.

I personally knew of super LCD display technologies in prototype back in the mid 90s, based on ferroelectric liquid crystals, that moved ten times faster than the present 'nematic' type of today. The reasons you don't see them for sale is that they cost about three times more to make the displays, and the companies are still selling the old technology at profit, so there's no economic incentive from their point of view to sell better stuff.

[SlipBall]

Computer technology is always being updated this is just another sign of the constant change that the industry goes through. IN a few more years after that it will be something else. There wont be anyone playing any current games in all likelihood by then anyway so the issue is irrelevant for CoD. And to be honest when the next generation of flight sims comes out, whatever they are, you wont be wanting to play rubbishy old technology like CoD. I am getting a six core upgrade in a few days and I doubt that will make me any more likely to play CoD over RoF or MSFSX than at the moment.


No, this is a far bigger and much farther reaching development. A Memristor is called "the missing link" in electrical circuits...well it has been found now, so hold on to your hat. The best hope that we have for our sim, is that memristor's find their way in to graffic card's, and memory slots fairly soon.
Memristor will change circuit design in the 21st century as radically as the transistor changed it in the 20th




One guys guess

"POSSIBLE INVENTIONS UTILIZING MEMRISTORS TIME


1. memory for cameras, cell phones, iPods, iPads, etc. 1 to 5 years 2. universal memory replacing hard drives, RAM, flash, etc. in all computer devices 5 to 10 years 3. complex self learning neural networks and hybrid transistor/memristor circuits 5 to 15 years 4. memristic logic circuits on par with CPUs and other transistor circuits 15 to 20 years 5. advanced artificial thinking brains 20 to 30 years? 6. artificial conscious brains ? 7. memory and brains capable of living millions of years ? 8. duty-cycle artificial conscious beings capable of interstellar travel ? 9. creation of a real god
I'm kidding! "

[hiro]

Memristor may help ClOD but it won't be a silver bullet for it, unless the devs knew about it already (well it was announced in 2008 )


The Memristor is the missing link for


Tr0n
Terminator
universal translator
Ghost in the Shell
p0rtal gun
Finding Nessie / sasquatch
Gravity Gun
optic camouflage
Cyberpunk / Steampunk
Nan07echnology
legit Space Travel
Fusion reactor
exploring the ocean completely
companion cube!
Making propeller as good as jet turbines
holodeck
Startrek / Starwars
People being barcoded
Post apocalyptic armageddon
Gun Katas
Flat-Space_technology
defeating invading alien races with pwnage technology
*
and . . . .


mecha *gangsta head nod*



*some of it will be because the Memristor will allow human and computer calculations which will allow development of quantum physics formulas

wiki wiki

[SlipBall]

[QUOTE=hiro;305647] unless the devs knew about it already


:confused: explain

[jimbop]

There's usually a substantial time lag between proof of concept in the lab and any commercial product, especially on the scale of personal computing. Will be interesting to watch but I think it is safe to do an upgrade now.

[carguy_]

I personally knew of super LCD display technologies in prototype back in the mid 90s, based on ferroelectric liquid crystals, that moved ten times faster than the present 'nematic' type of today. The reasons you don't see them for sale is that they cost about three times more to make the displays, and the companies are still selling the old technology at profit, so there's no economic incentive from their point of view to sell better stuff.

Ok. Now tell me if you call that "progress" or not.

[jimbop]

Ok. Now tell me if you call that "progress" or not.

Of course. The technology is there for applications that need it whether now or in the future. The mass market isn't the only market but for mass production Good Enough tends to be the general rule even when Better is possible.