Duxford Flying Legends 9th July

[Gilly]

It's that time of year again...

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/IMG_1109.jpg
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...and the Duxford wing is once again making our annual pilgrimage to the alter of all things piston powered.
McQ and Kav are once again being flown in to take part in this mission whilst Jack and myself are making our way down from T'north to collect brother Dave whilst F1rebrand is making an assault from the east.
I know Irishjg stated he was likely going with speedbird and Boar hinted he was going to try and get there too.
The PC guys (lewis and crew) are also going to be there so it's looking like a good turn out from us pixel flyers.
I just wanted to extend an invite to anyone else to what is one hell of a weekend with much merriment, dagga dagga dagga and 'repeat please' type humour. So if dossing around with a bunch of middle aged kids is your idea of fun let of us know and we'll come and bundle you on the day!!!

Irishjg drop me a PM if you're still going and I'll give you my contact details.

[FOZ_1983]

Excellent pics!!

I'd love to go, always wanted to get to Duxford. Unfortunately all my hols are booked up so cant get the time off...


Though...

I've currently got a cast on my wrist, and been struck off work for 2 months..... ;)

It'll be a great day guys im sure.


Very Envious

[Hicks-81]

I hope to go the next year. But with the olimpic games, i don´t know if i have some problem (travel, plane ticket, hotel, etc...)

I've heard of a class of ticket "VIP" to approach to aircraft. Gilly, you know something?. Can you purchase the same day?. As you know I'm not from England.

Can I buy tickets on the day? Or is it better to buy tickets online in advance?

Have fun mates ;)

[Gilly]

I hope to go the next year. But with the olimpic games, i don´t know if i have some problem (travel, plane ticket, hotel, etc...)

I've heard of a class of ticket "VIP" to approach to aircraft. Gilly, you know something?. Can you purchase the same day?. As you know I'm not from England.

Can I buy tickets on the day? Or is it better to buy tickets online in advance?

Have fun mates ;)

There's the regular entrance which gets you in (£29 this year)and access the the flight line was only £2 I think last year which gets you up close and personal with the aircraft flying (pics above are from the flight line).The VIP or gold tickets also give you lunch and a private seating area.
I've always pre-ordered tickets but you can just turn up on the day (jack did
last year).
As for the Olympics you'd be better off saving the money and having a proper weekend up the road with the warbirds!!!

[Ze-Jamz]

Il be there, going on the Sunday..

[Gilly]

Il be there, going on the Sunday..

Cool, we met a few PC guys last year (we're not worthy!!) who are there again this year. If you fancy a warm beer give us a shout and I'll drop my contact details over.

[Hicks-81]

There's the regular entrance which gets you in (£29 this year)and access the the flight line was only £2 I think last year which gets you up close and personal with the aircraft flying (pics above are from the flight line).The VIP or gold tickets also give you lunch and a private seating area.
I've always pre-ordered tickets but you can just turn up on the day (jack did
last year).
As for the Olympics you'd be better off saving the money and having a proper weekend up the road with the warbirds!!!

Thank you very much Gilly. No doubt that I'm saving to see these winged beauties :-P
The question is whit the Olympic Games, the travel and accommodation prices will be more expensive


The access to flight line, do you pay there?

Thank you for your attention

[Gilly]

Thank you very much Gilly. No doubt that I'm saving to see these winged beauties :-P
The question is whit the Olympic Games, the travel and accommodation prices will be more expensive


The access to flight line, do you pay there?

Thank you for your attention

Bring a tent and camp like we did. That worked out about £12 per night per person.
The flight line you pay for as you enter it. I think last years proceeds went to a local charity.
Well worth every penny.

[Gilly]

Last years thread with pics
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=15501&highlight=Problem+ps3+online

[Gilly]

The Skies of Fire guys have confirmed they'll be down although no Lewis as he's away in Istanbul! Both Valisk and Jinzo have said though they'd like to catch up.

[Davedog74]

i cant wait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8c4_WeEVvM&feature=related

[KAV]

Great post Davedog.

Really looking forward to this, especially finding that french speaker on holiday, somewhere far from Duxford............

[P-51]

Looks like I'm going down on the 9th this year! First time going down.. Going with the dad so I can't come join you. If thee is a sim set up somewhere (those over priced sims are everywhere! :P) I'll give you a chance to shoot me down! ;))

If you see a 17 year old kid, 6foot 2, longer hair and wearing aviators - that's me. Safe to say: I'm excited!

[McQ59]

It's getting closer... And closer...
Hope to see a lot of you gents. Keep your head on a swivel :-)

[Gilly]

Looks like I'm going down on the 9th this year! First time going down.. Going with the dad so I can't come join you. If thee is a sim set up somewhere (those over priced sims are everywhere! :P) I'll give you a chance to shoot me down! ;))

If you see a 17 year old kid, 6foot 2, longer hair and wearing aviators - that's me. Safe to say: I'm excited!

You'll know it's us as we bundle up behind shouting ' dagga dagga dagga dagga! Bail!!!'
Hope we can catch up, be good to get a pic of us all together and add you to the Duxford roll of honour and wing!!
Excited won't cover it by the way, it's taken all year to get over last year!

[Gilly]

Great post Davedog.

Really looking forward to this, especially finding that french speaker on holiday, somewhere far from Duxford............

Haha my thoughts exactly when watching that.

[P-51]

You'll know it's us as we bundle up behind shouting ' dagga dagga dagga dagga! Bail!!!'
Hope we can catch up, be good to get a pic of us all together and add you to the Duxford roll of honour and wing!!
Excited won't cover it by the way, it's taken all year to get over last year!

Haha I'll be ready! ;)

A pic? I hope that's with arms outstretched, and saying "Bogies" instead of "Cheese"?

Well, I have no idea what to expect, really. I've heard the Horsemen will be there, or something. Other than that I have no idea what to expect!

[SEE]

I shall be going (9th July), looking forward to it! Hopefully get to meet some of you guys too and that the weather is good.....:grin:

[Gilly]

I shall be going (9th July), looking forward to it! Hopefully get to meet some of you guys too and that the weather is good.....:grin:

Nice one SEE, we may yet put up a force equivalent to the skies of fire guys!!
I'll drop you a PM with my contact details.

[bobbysocks]

i am green with envy...but extremely happy for all of you who can make it. enjoy...and take lots of pics!!!

PS..kiss the Nooky Booky for me! :)

[WildBoar44]

I can see it now.......there is WildBoar........cruising at 5ft 10" at 4mph.......turns a sharp turn to port across the Duxford dispersal area ........who dem gezzers over there lookin at me...?........kinda mean look in there eye......oh Sh**.....its..... Gilly and Davedog74 coming on my six.........pull a quick turn to starboard.......get cover behind the Hotdog van......big mistake.......McQ59 and Kav are there in waiting.....!!!.......increase speed.....10mph......full WEP......that four gunning for me......running hard now toward the Ice-cream van for cover.........bits flyin of all over the place.......lose a flip flop.....ruck sack thrown off......damm !!!.....its a trap......sneeky so and so's........iamjack....is there lookin cool for the kill......the wolves pounce and the Boar goes down......"!!!!........

Some things dont change then !!!


Looking forward to meeting you Guy's !!! :-P:-P





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[Gilly]

i am green with envy...but extremely happy for all of you who can make it. enjoy...and take lots of pics!!!

PS..kiss the Nooky Booky for me! :)

Just for you mate
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/IMG_1101.jpg

Also just noticed what it has on the tail- Cavallino Rampante!! The prancing horse! Ironically which was used originally by Count Francesco Barraca, an Italian WW1 ace who was KIA- Enzo Ferrari used the horse after Barracas mother said it would bring him good luck.
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/220px-FBaracca_1.jpg

[QBlackDeathQ]

Just for you mate
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/IMG_1101.jpg

Also just noticed what it has on the tail- Cavallino Rampante!! The prancing horse! Ironically which was used originally by Count Francesco Barraca, an Italian WW1 ace who was KIA- Enzo Ferrari used the horse after Barracas mother said it would bring him good luck.
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/220px-FBaracca_1.jpg

WoW buddy you really know alot of War Bird history wish I could have been there! great pics. One day, here is hopen!;)

[vdomini]

Meet you there next year! Can't make it this summer :(
I miss some english beer soooo much!


@ Gilly: In italy it's still possible to see the Baracca's engine, taken from his last plane crash. It's expsed at "Museo storico dell'Aereonautica" on the Bracciano Lake, near Rome.

[Gilly]

Meet you there next year! Can't make it this summer :(
I miss some english beer soooo much!


@ Gilly: In italy it's still possible to see the Baracca's engine, taken from his last plane crash. It's expsed at "Museo storico dell'Aereonautica" on the Bracciano Lake, near Rome.

That's cool to know and somewhere to add visit when I next make a Modena pilgrimage!

[Gilly]

Haha I'll be ready! ;)

A pic? I hope that's with arms outstretched, and saying "Bogies" instead of "Cheese"?

Well, I have no idea what to expect, really. I've heard the Horsemen will be there, or something. Other than that I have no idea what to expect!

Best place to look is here
http://duxford.iwm.org.uk/server/show/conEvent.3526

They've also brought an app out for iPhone and android which is worth having. As well as the horsemen I do know this is coming over from Austria
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/RedBullHangar-7_1.jpg

[Davedog74]

some better footage of last years balbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN46KQtnYdw

[bobbysocks]

nice vid, dave..... looked like a merlin orgy...haha.

gilly thanks for the pic...love those colors.

hope you boys have a tremendous time....as i know you will.

[SEE]

Bring a tent and camp like we did. That worked out about £12 per night per person.
The flight line you pay for as you enter it. I think last years proceeds went to a local charity.
Well worth every penny.


Where you camping overnight Gilly?

[Gilly]

Where you camping overnight Gilly?

Myself and Jack are staying at Essex's premier 5 star hotel known as Davedog Towers!! Kav and McQ are staying in Cambridge. If your after a good campsite the one at Cabbage Moor was where we stayed last year and is a superb campsite. The Skies of fire (PC) guys will be there.

[Gilly]

I suggest that a good meeting point is on the grass behind the F15 by the American hangar at say midday.
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/F15duxford.png

[McQ59]

Weatheforecast looking good, and getting better as you read this :cool:
Approx 20 centigrees, 1,3 mm rain and light winds from west/southwest.

[pupaxx]

4 u guys
6566
have nice time at 'Eagle Pub'!

[KAV]

4 u guys

6565

have nice time at 'Eagle Pub'!



I get invalid attachment on this one.......

[Gilly]

Starting to arrive for Saturday
http://www.friends-of-tfc.blogspot.com/

[pupaxx]

try now

[P-51]

Back home from Legends. Simply stunning.

I choked up about 4 times. The Spits and the Hurricane (the best of the two ;)), the P51's and the balbo, to name a few pieces that choked me up. It was truly amazing. Awesome. I am still speechless.

WOW!

I hope all you guys tomorrow really have a great day!

[Gilly]

Few starters for 10 off the phone

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http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/77b4d1a2.jpg

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/eb857914.jpg

Et Merci Olife
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/013db7ac.jpg

[f1rebrand]

Great to meet up with the old crew again and to see the IL-2 community is still going strong.

[SEE]

Absolutely awesome! I never imagined that some of these aircraft were so large - the P47 is a beast and and Me109's much smaller than I imagined. Seeing virtually all of the classic Warbirds we love in the air and being put through their paces was a revelation!

Thanks to all the guys, McQ, Gilly , etc, for making a BOP Xboxer welcome, great to meet you all and many thanks for the IL2 Duxford Legends 'T- Shirt' (Obligatory dress code requirement as shown above...:grin:)

Nine Spits and three Me109's all in formation then breaking off ......won't see that very often or a Bearcat pulling 7 G in an almost vertical climb. Brilliant flying by all the pilots today and excellent to watch.

Will post pics if any are good enough!

[P-51]

Brilliant T-shirt!

I forgot to mention, while my eyes wern't attempting the leaky-thing I did manage to gat around 500 photographs o.0

I'll be sure to post some, don't worry :)

I've also decided that I will be there next year. I'll be there to mingle too. I really Can Not Wait! That is what An Airshow Should be. And to think I discovered it at 17, Lucky me!

[hurricane]

not even the slightest bit of envy here.what about pictures of the trip and camping out.getting there is half the fun.how much for the t shirt.what about the sound of the engines?

[bobbysocks]

AWESOME shots gents, thanks......next year take orders to T-shirts. :grin: ( i am serious )

[Davedog74]

great day,good to see the gang
griffons were awesome,standing behind the spits as the balbo was preparing was the highlight ,
t shirts are top notch,thanks olife for sorting that out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i133AwIJ77A

[SEE]

For my buddies....

For Hurricane.....the only MK1 flying in the world and sold by the RAF for £10-00.......




http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt341/Angeloevs/Hurricane.jpg



and for RoboticPope......A Yak -9...


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt341/Angeloevs/Yak-9.jpg

[Robotic Pope]

and for RoboticPope......A Yak -9...


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt341/Angeloevs/Yak-9.jpg

Surely that Yak is for Soviet Ace not me? (Were is he by the way?) I will share the Hurricane with Bucketman and Foz :)

I'm glad that everybody had a great day and the weather didn't spoil it. Did you get wet at all?

[FOZ_1983]

For my buddies....

For Hurricane.....the only MK1 flying in the world and sold by the RAF for £10-00.......




http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt341/Angeloevs/Hurricane.jpg



and for RoboticPope......A Yak -9...




Surely that Yak is for Soviet Ace not me? (Were is he by the way?) I will share the Hurricane with Bucketman and Foz :)

I'm glad that everybody had a great day and the weather didn't spoil it. Did you get wet at all?

Dibs on the Hurricane!!! Look at her... how majestic she looks!!! Beautiful!!!

As for Soviet Ace..... not seen him in a while. He's not been active either. Sent him a message a couple of months back but heard nothing from him.

[P-51]

P-51 down guys.. Big Beautiful Doll is down.. Clipped one of the Skyraiders in the Balbo..

Everyone is down ok. The Raider is missing 4ft of wing but, from what I understand, landed safely. The P-51 is smoking in a field..

I'm doing some digging as we speak.

[FOZ_1983]

P-51 down guys.. Big Beautiful Doll is down.. Clipped one of the Skyraiders in the Balbo..

Everyone is down ok. The Raider is missing 4ft of wing but, from what I understand, landed safely. The P-51 is smoking in a field..

I'm doing some digging as we speak.


Really?

Thats not good news at all, hope the pilots are ok though!! Thanks for the update.

[P-51]

Really?

Thats not good news at all, hope the pilots are ok though!! Thanks for the update.

"The pilot was seen parachuting out and is ok - this has been announced over the airfield. The Skyraider, missing a large chunk of it's right wing, was able to make a safe landing at Duxford. It happened after the break away at the end of the Balbo."

As I understand it, the Skyraider hit the 51 and broke its back in mid flight...

From a reliable source of mine, It happened over the Tank Bank apparently, As soon as pics are available I'll post them.

[P-51]

Sorry for the double but wanted to post this:

NOT my pic, just grabbed from the internet.

http://www.challoner.com/aviation/pix/2011/07/10/pix/IMG_5873.JPG

http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a418/KingCobra92/Skyraider.jpg

http://www.challoner.com/aviation/pix/2011/07/10/pix/IMG_5883.JPG

[Robotic Pope]

Yup that skyraider is broken. If you have to fly and land a plane with a large piece of wing missing, The skyraider is a good choice.

[FOZ_1983]

Yup that skyraider is broken. If you have to fly and land a plane with a large piece of wing missing, The skyraider is a good choise.

Ever thought of becoming an airplane engineer.... mechanic? Your observational skills are incredible!! hahaha. Mate that made me chuckle to myself. :D

And choise?? ;)

[P-51]

Just seen a pic of BBD..

She isn't flying much more :(

http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197278&d=1310319049

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/inkworm/Duxford%2010%20July%202011/IMG_3658.jpg

Ohh and this happend:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/inkworm/Duxford%2010%20July%202011/_MG_3197.jpg
No-one was hurt there, either.

[P-51]

More pics, of the 51 this time :(

http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197295&d=1310329995

http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197296&d=1310329995

http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197298&d=1310329995

http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197300&d=1310330447

Again, Not my pics.

Note the whopping great hole inbetween the radiator and the tail section of the aircraft.


Edit: Sorry for clogging this thread up with masses of pictures, by the way!

[Hicks-81]

Sorry for the double but wanted to post this:

NOT my pic, just grabbed from the internet.

http://www.challoner.com/aviation/pix/2011/07/10/pix/IMG_5873.JPG


I see this picture and remember Vietnam... a strong plane the Skyraider.

A shame the accident and the loss of the Mustang. Fortunately no loss of life

[bobbysocks]

glad everyone's ok but DAMN.....not much to put back together.

[P-51]

glad everyone's ok but DAMN.....not much to put back together.

I read on my search, not sure about its validity, that one in the states crashed like this and is being straightened out - no idea how bad it is. He did say that they aren't hard to re build, just costly..

Maybe we can live in hope and fly a missing man formaition of 51's on BoP?

[Robotic Pope]

I can determin that that Mustang has become unserviceable.


Great bailout photos. Looks like the Skyraider violated the Mustang. :o

[FOZ_1983]

The wings and the engine on the P51 seem to be in good condition, the only noticeable damage being just behind the radiator.

WW2 aircraft have been through much worse and still made it home. Flaps/elevators look ok to. I'd love to know more about this particular accident as it looks at first glance like the P51 could of comfortably landed. Or at the very least glided into a field....

Is it just me that thinks this?


Maybe its an insurance job ;)

[Hicks-81]

The wings and the engine on the P51 seem to be in good condition, the only noticeable damage being just behind the radiator.

WW2 aircraft have been through much worse and still made it home. Flaps/elevators look ok to. I'd love to know more about this particular accident as it looks at first glance like the P51 could of comfortably landed. Or at the very least glided into a field....

Is it just me that thinks this?


Maybe its an insurance job ;)

You're right. It seems that there might be returned. Perhaps, after the impact was impossible for the pilot to regain control and decided to jump before running out of height

[FOZ_1983]

The plot thickens!!

[bobbysocks]

from cambridge first...

One of the aircraft lost “chunks” of its wing.

The pilot of one plane parachuted to safety before it crashed into trees and the other aircraft was able to fly away safely and land. No one was injured in the crash which involved a P-51 Mustang and a Skyraider.

Mark Brown, a pilot, from Warminster, was at the air show and witnessed the crash.

He said: “Three aircrafts form a triangle and then they peel off to the left one after the other. As they did that the leader and the one that was following clipped each other.

“The Sky Raider lost a large chunk of its wing tip which fell to the ground.

“It went into a bit of a dive then sorted itself out. The other aircraft dived away from the airfield.

“They were only about 100 feet at this point.

“Then we saw someone jump out and a parachute open. It looked all right, so I assumed someone got out ok. There was no explosion or smoke.”

Henry Simpson, who was at the event and also witnessed the crash, said: “I saw two aircraft collide and large chunks of metal falling from the aircraft.

“One of them then entered a dive before crashing into the ground behind some trees, the pilot did parachute to safety and the other plane landed safely.”

Jason Warden, from Leicestershire, said the Douglas Skyraider, which appeared not to see the mustang and “turned in too tightly hitting the mustang”.

“A chunk of wing fell from the Skyraider which was quickly brought back under control.”

He said people saw a chute open just before the aircraft hit the ground.

Alistair Barbour, from Surrey, took the above photograph minutes before the crash.

He said: “Two Mustangs and a Skyraider were in a three ship formation when the lead Mustang ‘Beautiful Doll’ collided with the wing of the much larger Skyraider. Parts fell to the ground over the airfield from both aircraft.

“The Skyraider lost some control but recovered after losing height, However, the pilot of ‘Beautiful Doll’ could only do his best to ditch his aircraft safely in a field adjacent to Duxford while bailing out a couple of seconds before impact.”



if they were only at a hundred feet or so....that is not much time to make a decision to ride it out or bail. AND if they were only that high its a wonder the chute was able to get the pilot down safely.

[KAV]

Me and McQ59 witnessed this tragic loss up close. It all happened at the second pass of the Balbo.
BBD were in the lead of triangel with another Mustang to its right and a Skyraider to its left. fter making a low pass over the airfield, they started climbing, banking left when it appeard to be a collision between the two. Debrie fell to the ground and the Skyraider had a sudden dtop of altitude but regained control. The Mustang wobbled further upwards when suddenly the pilot bailed and the parachute unfolded at very low level. The Kyraider regurned to land with a damged wing (McQ got pics) while the other Mustang circled around crash/impactsite. A tragic loss of aviation history. But luckily no loss of life and the Skyraider made it safe back.

[FOZ_1983]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qME7VefLxFw

[winny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qME7VefLxFw

Wow, how the **** did he get out of that alive?

(and where was the Skyraider pilot looking?!)

[FOZ_1983]

I wasn't their and really have no right to voice my opinions or views on this particular accident but i will anyway.....

I think the P51 pilot made a quick choice their and then on the spot to bail out... and it was the right one. He valued his life more than the aircraft.

I do think though, had he of known the damage was minimal and he'd of used the split second to recover rather than jump, then he would of landed the P51 (all be it a little damaged) and todays outcome would of been different.

Had we been in that situation... what would we of done? I to would of probably bailed out.

But i have to agree Winny...... what was the Skyraider looking at!! He was following the P51, should of always had him in sight yet clearly didnt!! He's lucky their wasnt a fatality.


Kudos to the P51 pilot though for getting out in one piece. He's now part of a rare club who can say they've jumped out of a damaged P51. I bet he knows how the Vets felt now.

[irishjg10]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/irishjg10/duxford2011054.jpg

Farewell "Doll" (pic I took on Saturday before the show.

[irishjg10]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/irishjg10/duxford2011044.jpg

And fair play to that spad for getting back safely. Well done.

[irishjg10]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/irishjg10/duxford2011012.jpg

[irishjg10]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/irishjg10/duxford2011038.jpg

[vdomini]

from cambridge first...

One of the aircraft lost “chunks” of its wing.

The pilot of one plane parachuted to safety before it crashed into trees and the other aircraft was able to fly away safely and land. No one was injured in the crash which involved a P-51 Mustang and a Skyraider.

Mark Brown, a pilot, from Warminster, was at the air show and witnessed the crash.

He said: “Three aircrafts form a triangle and then they peel off to the left one after the other. As they did that the leader and the one that was following clipped each other.

“The Sky Raider lost a large chunk of its wing tip which fell to the ground.

“It went into a bit of a dive then sorted itself out. The other aircraft dived away from the airfield.

“They were only about 100 feet at this point.

“Then we saw someone jump out and a parachute open. It looked all right, so I assumed someone got out ok. There was no explosion or smoke.”

Henry Simpson, who was at the event and also witnessed the crash, said: “I saw two aircraft collide and large chunks of metal falling from the aircraft.

“One of them then entered a dive before crashing into the ground behind some trees, the pilot did parachute to safety and the other plane landed safely.”

Jason Warden, from Leicestershire, said the Douglas Skyraider, which appeared not to see the mustang and “turned in too tightly hitting the mustang”.

“A chunk of wing fell from the Skyraider which was quickly brought back under control.”

He said people saw a chute open just before the aircraft hit the ground.

Alistair Barbour, from Surrey, took the above photograph minutes before the crash.

He said: “Two Mustangs and a Skyraider were in a three ship formation when the lead Mustang ‘Beautiful Doll’ collided with the wing of the much larger Skyraider. Parts fell to the ground over the airfield from both aircraft.

“The Skyraider lost some control but recovered after losing height, However, the pilot of ‘Beautiful Doll’ could only do his best to ditch his aircraft safely in a field adjacent to Duxford while bailing out a couple of seconds before impact.”



if they were only at a hundred feet or so....that is not much time to make a decision to ride it out or bail. AND if they were only that high its a wonder the chute was able to get the pilot down safely.

impressive , luckily no one injured, gosh!

[winny]

Slightly better video here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14106730)

Looks like the 51 lost part of one of the elevators.

[olife]

waooooooooooooooooooo!!epic,fantastic,great pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!super!!!!
...and lucky nobody injuried in the crash...a bad lose for the aviation history.
no probs for the t-shirt logo,pleasure is mine.
would be great if next year ,i can go too...
millions thanks to share guys!!!really super!!
thx again!!

[Robotic Pope]

Slightly better video here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14106730)

Looks like the 51 lost part of one of the elevators.

No, everything was still on the plane, it just took a heavy whack up the arse. Unfortunatly looking at a Mustang cross section picture, that is right were the rudder and elevator cables travel on their way to the tail. Looking at the damage these cables would certainly been effected if not jammed completely. No way you could recover a spin. Quick thinking saved his life.
http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197295&d=1310329995

[SEE]

Inclined to agree, he was too low to try and make an assessment regards the possibilty of recovering and landing - right decision to bale in my opinion - someones life is worth more than any ac.

[P-51]

No, everything was still on the plane, it just took a heavy whack up the arse. Unfortunatly looking at a Mustang cross section picture, that is right were the rudder and elevator cables travel on their way to the tail. Looking at the damage these cables would certainly been effected if not jammed completely. No way you could recover a spin. Quick thinking saved his life.
http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197295&d=1310329995

Exactly. It's like those moments in BoP when your tail gets slaughtered, making it hard to turn. Only he needs a new set of underwear and a bar of soap for his mouth :P

My Dad spoke to the Paramedic who attended, he works with him, and he was "shaken and hopping mad, wanting to know who hit him". Glad he's okay.

[Robotic Pope]

In Birds of Prey both aircraft would have exploded instantly :P

[bobbysocks]

great pics irish! that second video is better.....what a crumpled pile of aluminum that used to be a sweet ac. :(

[P-51]

With any luck the camera in the cockpit (I remember the DVD was supposed to have cockpit footage) will have survived and we can all S**t ourselves as the ground gets closer.

Put full screen and 720p on for this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmsJW0-6JB0

Edit: Just spoke to my Dad in person after this mornings text confirming the pilot was fine. The reports on the news are wrong, he did not break an arm and did only suffer minor abrasions to both forearms. He was found inspecting the airframe with tears in his eyes (it was his, 3 months previous), wanted to know who had hit him and wanted to get back to the ATC tower as his daughter was there.

One lucky guy. That's it from me on this subject - I think I've posted enough about it :p

[KAV]

Here is a link to a video of the crash.
Seems like a wonder that BBD didnt lose the tail in that impact !
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=35085&sid=308960c5e694ec40923241c621730b60&start=125

[Gilly]

Different angle
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8630625/US-Fighter-planes-collide-during-Duxford-air-display.html

Some good pictures of before, during and aftermath
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013219/Pilot-Rob-Davies-escapes-WW2-fighter-mid-air-collision-airshow.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[MACADEMIC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xctYWSuwoYA&feature=player_embedded

[MACADEMIC]

Here is a link to a video of the crash.
Seems like a wonder that BBD didnt lose the tail in that impact !
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=35085&sid=308960c5e694ec40923241c621730b60&start=125

It is amazing that the wing structure of the skyraider gave way and not the fuselage of the P-51.

MAC

[vdomini]

It is amazing that the wing structure of the skyraider gave way and not the fuselage of the P-51.

MAC
Small bird usually can still fly with one wing and a half, (check this is extreme footage, obviously the weight/engine power of this bird is pretty different from a p51 http://youtu.be/2lJy1idHwCc ) but, if elevator got damaged or broken, plane is useless... Maybe the impact under the p51 fusolage damaged badly the elevator/rudder controls and the pilot had no choice to bail. Maybe.

[Gilly]

From the unofficial reports I've heard the 51 pilot had literally no control surfaces after the bang and did wonder if he'd lost the rear part of the fuselage.

[Gilly]

Can I just say a big thanks to all attendees that yet again made this one hell of a weekend:
Thanks to Dave for the lodgings,
Jack for making the long journey south entertaining (even if you were asleep for most of it!),
Kav and McQ for making an even longer trip and the dead sheep!!!,
SEE- great to meet you finally, hope we didn't put you off next year!
F1rebrand, as always a pleasure and great to see you.

Shame we didn't get change to catch up with the other guys there.

Boar where were you?
We did wonder if this was you?? Spitfire XIV dribble!!

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/DSCF0031.jpg

[irishjg10]

I think the Wildman was last seen Sunday, grazing in a field just behind the flight line. ... Yikes !!! Anyone seen the big man since Sunday. Can someone please check under BBD.

[KAV]

From the unofficial reports I've heard the 51 pilot had literally no control surfaces after the bang and did wonder if he'd lost the rear part of the fuselage.

Link to a good post by easyrider5258:
http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=287&t=37273&start=80

The cables must have been damaged and noway it was possible to recover control over BDD, sadly :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

[Robotic Pope]

Link to a good post by easyrider5258:
http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=287&t=37273&start=80

The cables must have been damaged and noway it was possible to recover control over BDD, sadly :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

Yes thats the same crosssection picture thats in the book I looked in. Its pretty clear huh?

No, everything was still on the plane, it just took a heavy whack up the arse. Unfortunatly looking at a Mustang cross section picture, that is right were the rudder and elevator cables travel on their way to the tail. Looking at the damage these cables would certainly been effected if not jammed completely. No way you could recover a spin. Quick thinking saved his life.

[McQ59]

Give her a kiss gents. She was a gal' with an attitude!

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011217.jpg

It's so sad she's lost. The good news was that the pilot bailed to safety and could walk away unharmed. Propably well shaken & stirred but alive after all...
I got a few more pics of her and will post as I get it all sorted&organised.
And as we all know miracles do happen... May we all see her airborn again!


Great thanks to the UK-gents, Dave, Jack, Gilly, and Roy w/daughter. Very good to see you again guys :cool:

Good to see you too See :-)

[Robotic Pope]

One good thing is that P-51D's arn't rare.

[McQ59]

Sure matie, but they're all genuine.

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011218.jpg

[Robotic Pope]

Depends on what you mean by genuine.

Great photos by the way :)

[McQ59]

And here she rises her nose in her last climb.

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011530.jpg

[McQ59]

Then off to a cpl of bigger birds...

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011431.jpg

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011430.jpg

They were awesome together!

[McQ59]

Depends on what you mean by genuine.

Great photos by the way :)

Thanx Pope. I guess I will be bombing this thread with pics the next few days... :grin:

[McQ59]

Here's one for you Olife... ;-)

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011212.jpg



Or was it this one I had in mind...

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011045.jpg

[WildBoar44]

Can I just say a big thanks to all attendees that yet again made this one hell of a weekend:
Thanks to Dave for the lodgings,
Jack for making the long journey south entertaining (even if you were asleep for most of it!),
Kav and McQ for making an even longer trip and the dead sheep!!!,
SEE- great to meet you finally, hope we didn't put you off next year!
F1rebrand, as always a pleasure and great to see you.

Shame we didn't get change to catch up with the other guys there.

Boar where were you? We did wonder if this was you?? Spitfire XIV dribble!!

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/DSCF0031.jpg


Now Mr Gilly.......I know I may fly like a twat......but I dont look like one...!!!:(

That bloke has XBoxer written all over him.....no relation old chap..........:-P

I was lined up to go but the previous weekend I had taken a tumble in a cycle race and cracked a few ribs and collarbone......Saturday morning I was still sore ( 40+ blokes dont bounce so well !) .....driving was the real pain


Always next year fella......ps....here is my latest picture so you will recognise me.......See Im just an ordinary Guy....! (I think so :-P)

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http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g366/WildBoar44/9.jpg

[WildBoar44]

I think the Wildman was last seen Sunday, grazing in a field just behind the flight line. ... Yikes !!! Anyone seen the big man since Sunday. Can someone please check under BBD.

Im Alive...........!!! :-P:-P.

I Maybe Wild....but your still MAD ....Mad ,Mad ,Mad, Mad, Mad......:-P:-P....Typical 1St Class CTA Jocky pilot......Loopin Mad !......;)

I was off-line for 5 days....last I looked you bin off for 14days.....What you up to Cuz ?



.

[McQ59]

For my trans-atlantic friends;
The grand Ol' Lady Sally B with two of her little friends. Sadly enough one of them was a little later the same day shamelessly a**whipped and failed to return...

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011317.jpg

[KAV]

Visting Duxford this weekend was a blast :eek:

To sum it all up:

Friday
1. Two Spitfires mk Xi piloted by McQ59 and Kav takes of from their Norwegian bases, makes a safe landing at Cambridge, debriefs at The Eagle pub.

2. A B17 and a PO2 piloted by Gilly and Jack takes from theire northern british bases, overshoots Cambridge, misses debriefing at The Eagle and makes a hard landing at Davedogs towers in Essex. Pilots ok but severly confused.

Saturday
1. Gilly and Jack gets assisted by Davedog in his Spitfire mmk 14 at his base, manages take of for Duxford where they make a safe landing :-P

2. A Spitfire hits a bump at take off, angles towards the crowd but regains control :eek:

3. A Skyraider gets it wrong and is called of formation..

Sunday
1. Gillywing takes off from their new base, Davedogs tower, Has set their compass wrong and ends up at Hendon :rolleyes:, therefore misses out on the sunday action at Duxford.

2. Fokker noses over at landing.

3. A Sea Fury tries to land to early and gets called off.

4. The Bearcat overshoots landing.

5. P 51 and Skyraider crashes :shock:

6. A blunt and ignorant KAV assults a pilot after the crash and interrogates him about it. The pilot turns out be Stephen Grey.

7. Gillywing takes of from Hendon, yet there is still a compass error and they misses out on the debrief at The Eagle pub once again :cool:

Monday
1. The Norwegian Spitfires heads back north/east after having great fun, gotten loads of books (thanks alot Jack) and a Hartmann leather jacket.
Many thanks to you all guys. Great seeing you all again :-P

[bobbysocks]

Great pic McQ.....thanks for sharing.

[McQ59]

Great pic McQ.....thanks for sharing.

Thanks Dale. Still sorting, but think it may be a cpl of the nooky around...

[McQ59]

Visting Duxford this weekend was a blast :eek:

To sum it all up:

Friday
1. Two Spitfires mk Xi piloted by McQ59 and Kav takes of from their Norwegian bases, makes a safe landing at Cambridge, debriefs at The Eagle pub.

2. A B17 and a PO2 piloted by Gilly and Jack takes from theire northern british bases, overshoots Cambridge, misses debriefing at The Eagle and makes a hard landing at Davedogs towers in Essex. Pilots ok but severly confused.

Saturday
1. Gilly and Jack gets assisted by Davedog in his Spitfire mmk 14 at his base, manages take of for Duxford where they make a safe landing :-P

2. A Spitfire hits a bump at take off, angles towards the crowd but regains control :eek:

3. A Skyraider gets it wrong and is called of formation..

Sunday
1. Gillywing takes off from their new base, Davedogs tower, Has set their compass wrong and ends up at Hendon :rolleyes:, therefore misses out on the sunday action at Duxford.

2. Fokker noses over at landing.

3. A Sea Fury tries to land to early and gets called off.

4. The Bearcat overshoots landing.

5. P 51 and Skyraider crashes :shock:

6. A blunt and ignorant KAV assults a pilot after the crash and interrogates him about it. The pilot turns out be Stephen Grey.

7. Gillywing takes of from Hendon, yet there is still a compass error and they misses out on the debrief at The Eagle pub once again :cool:

Monday
1. The Norwegian Spitfires heads back north/east after having great fun, gotten loads of books (thanks alot Jack) and a Hartmann leather jacket.
Many thanks to you all guys. Great seeing you all again :-P


Edit: One of the norwegian crew crashes at a nearby airfield and spends the night at a nearby B&B they call Hilton. The guys lurking in the Ryanair-tower wasn't up to it this time, so I dodged the sceduled flight...( I will strafe'em on occation, but they are good at hiding!) Returned to base 15 hours late.

[P-51]

Thanks Dale. Still sorting, but think it may be a cpl of the nooky around...

If you haven't any good ones of her, I certainly have - I can let people (on the forums :p not strangers) have the large versions of the originals if anyone wants them. :)

[McQ59]

Wow, how the **** did he get out of that alive?

(and where was the Skyraider pilot looking?!)

Comment from my son: 'Maybe he forgot the combatflaps!?'

[MACADEMIC]

KAV...want...to...see...that...jacket!

;)

MAC

[MACADEMIC]

Think it's a bit too early to say with certainty that BBD went uncontrollable after the collision which made the pilot jump. Being strongly hit and not knowing the extent of the damage the pilot may have not wanted to wait to find out - he was so low he used his only chance to get out while he could. Even if the controls were still intact he could not be blamed - many pilots died trying to salvage damaged planes which went then uncontrollable during landings.

It's going to be interesting to read the Accident report when it comes out.

MAC

[MACADEMIC]

Just found this interview with the pilot, Rob Davies.

MAC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLQsJS7zQOM&feature=player_embedded#at=118

[WildBoar44]

Just found this interview with the pilot, Rob Davies.

MAC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLQsJS7zQOM&feature=player_embedded#at=118


Very Gracious view on things...."a simple accident"......WoW.....Man....Thats Cool. :cool:

[McQ59]

Thanks MAC. Good post. He was in a real hurry. That's for sure. When I saw the shute open I couldn't really believe he made it. Strange thing is that it wasn't any explotions or smoke... I think I held my breath for a good few secs there. And then the relief as the speaker informed us the pilot had made it out. The speakers last comment was something like this; 'These things happen. This is aviation you know...'

[McQ59]

A cpl for Dale...

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011490.jpg

And The Horsemen

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011288.jpg

[bobbysocks]

thanks Bud...beautiful babes in flight. i will return the favor someday..

that pilot was gracious...extremely gracious. a lesser man would have taken that moment in the spotlight to vent and cast blame or bash.... a true gentleman.

oh just stole this from another forum....a still of the moment of impact. the pony looks pretty small compared to the raider doesnt she?

[McQ59]

The raider is a brute shining brutal power. It's huge and heavy! Nice pic. We're even bud. No worries. You have fed me top notch stuff in loads bro. I got a cpl of more of the Horsemen coming up.
The pilot there is a true officer and a gentleman. That's 4 sure. It was time 'to get proffesional' he said. Well put...

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011289.jpg


http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011300.jpg

They're close...


And then there's Ferocious Frankie

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011309.jpg

[Gilly]

KAV...want...to...see...that...jacket!

;)

MAC

C'mon Kav we need a picture of 'Das Coat'!!

And thanks to you and U2 for the crash recreation last night!!!!

[KAV]

C'mon Kav we need a picture of 'Das Coat'!!

And thanks to you and U2 for the crash recreation last night!!!!

Hey Guys, Pic to come.
As of yesterdays "redarrows" cta and strike games. I do remember getting kamikazied by a Spitfire or two every time I landed my G6.

[Gilly]

Hey Guys, Pic to come.
As of yesterdays "redarrows" cta and strike games. I do remember getting kamikazied by a Spitfire or two every time I landed my G6.

Was more the beautifully executed boom and zoom on myself whilst U2 was climbing into a firing position and subsequent coming together of you both that amused me- doing a Duxford as it's now become known!

[KAV]

Was more the beautifully executed boom and zoom on myself whilst U2 was climbing into a firing position and subsequent coming together of you both that amused me- doing a Duxford as it's now become known!


Yea that one. It takes knowledge and skills.
Knowledge as in experiencing the Duxford incident.
Skills as in flying a singel seater ;-)

[Gilly]

Yea that one. It takes knowledge and skills.
Knowledge as in experiencing the Duxford incident.
Skills as in flying a singel seater ;-)

Was going to say can you even spell single seater skills but I guess that's even a struggle!!! :rolleyes:;)
And just because you have the jacket doesn't mean you have to fly the bird!!

[KAV]

Secondary languages are hard to handle. Seems I keep forgetting the exclamation marks to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It wasnt me flyin, it woz the jacket !

[P-51]

It wasnt me flyin, it woz the jacket !

I prefer to fly by the seat of my pants ;)

[Davedog74]

some more photos

[McQ59]

A cpl of pics. Any of you gents that can identify the first one there? ;-)

[olife]

A cpl for Dale...

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011490.jpg

And The Horsemen

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011288.jpg

very nice pics guys!!top nice!!

and thx for the curtiss h75 of the "armée de l'air"(french air force),it seems to be a h75 of the "groupe de chasse" II/5(fighter group II/5).1939-1940
this french squadron did one of the best sucess of the battle of france ,the november ,6 1939,27 bf109d of the jgr 102,lead by hptm hannes gentzen,engaged the dogfight with 9 curtiss hawk 75 of the groupe de chasse II/5,the curtiss h75 is better than the 109d and the 9 french pilots were a "experten",at the end of the battle ,5 bf109 d were destoyed sure and 5 others probably destroyed...0 french curtiss were destroyed.

[URL=http://www.casimages.com]http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/07/15//1107150236411252718472997.jpg[/URL
here is the pic of the french pilots ,winners of the dogfight of the november 6 1939.

[McQ59]

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011415.jpg

And the p38 breaking right in the balbo sunday 10'th of july 2011

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n548/McQ59/Duxford2011477.jpg

[KAV]

Some Griffon candy:
http://s763.photobucket.com/albums/xx273/kavorland1968/Griffon/

[KAV]

Some background info with some great pics, and some from the crashsite.

http://www.crazyhorseap.be/Mustangs/Mustangs/G-HAECBigBeautifulDoll/G-HAEC.htm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37660802@N03/5937873485/in/set-72157624496346485/

[hurricane]

Dibs on the Hurricane!!! Look at her... how majestic she looks!!! Beautiful!!!

As for Soviet Ace..... not seen him in a while. He's not been active either. Sent him a message a couple of months back but heard nothing from him.

thanks for sharing with us angelo.I guess its only fair that I share it with foz and popey.

[hurricane]

great day,good to see the gang
griffons were awesome,standing behind the spits as the balbo was preparing was the highlight ,
t shirts are top notch,thanks olife for sorting that out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i133AwIJ77A

I listened more than watched that video. that had to be some beautiful noise.