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Gilly
06-15-2011, 10:01 AM
This Saturday we’re going to try the KG200 mission again but with a few amends. Following the last attempt being hijacked by those who hadn’t signed up therefore making it like trying to herd cats we’ve decided to change the structure of the game.
McQ, Hicks, Davedog, Kav and myself will play as KG200. From the start of the game we will travel east to the edge of the Berlin map. The ‘allies’ will land at Templehoff. Once we reach the eastern edge we will notify the opposition and the game will commence. Our challenge is to reach the Cecilienhof (north west of pottsdam) undetected and carry out an attack. The challenge for the allies to find the rogue elements of KG200 and destroy or prevent them from reaching Pottsdam.
KG200 players will have one life only whereas allies may re-enter the game as many times as they like providing they first do a touch and go at Templehoff.
We therefore require an opposing force to prevent KG200 from carrying out its deadly attack on the Cecilienhoff. Is anyone man enough to put themselves up as an allied commander and put together a team to oppose this threat? It will be the commanders responsibility to organise and direct their team.
So we hereby invite you to sign up for this game of hide and seek.

Hicks-81
06-15-2011, 01:28 PM
Saturday 10 pm GMT. Ok Gilly, I will be here ;)

MACADEMIC
06-15-2011, 01:34 PM
So far, little (no) response. Hm, seems with the end of the war the P-51 Club retired to enjoy the beach...

:)

MAC

McQ59
06-16-2011, 09:37 AM
Come on guys, pick up the gauntlet... ;-)

olife
06-16-2011, 12:15 PM
hello guys,
would like participate but i must do the realistic tournament organize by walternowotny too and we have 7 games to do in 12 days,if i add family life ,i'm afraid to be too buzy to join u,but i can try,a question GILLY,i must registered here now to participate or can i join u ,guys,saturday,if i can ,and play with u?
exuse me to disturbe u with those sort of probs,i know how it is difficult to organize an online game.

my apologies
cordialy
olife

Gilly
06-16-2011, 12:25 PM
hello guys,
would like participate but i must do the realistic tournament organize by walternowotny too and we have 7 games to do in 12 days,if i add family life ,i'm afraid to be too buzy to join u,but i can try,a question GILLY,i must registered here now to participate or can i join u ,guys,saturday,if i can ,and play with u?
exuse me to disturbe u with those sort of probs,i know how it is difficult to organize an online game.

my apologies
cordialy
olife

Hey Olife,
One of the reasons we put it up as a challenge was due to the problems last time with people joining who didn't know what we were trying to do. Hence I put it up with a call for an opposite number to organise their own force to repel the attack. Mac has put himself forward so I would graciously suggest that he is the one to decide as to whether it's ok to join ad hoc as he is the only one to put forward a call to arms.
Hope that's ok

MACADEMIC
06-16-2011, 12:40 PM
Hi Olife, Hi Gilly,

so far my call to arms has not been answered. Olife, I would be happy if you could join us in case your time allows. If not, I understand. Gilly, I'll try a bit harder to get some to join us, hopefully some more will come. It would be hard to defend the whole Podsdam conference all by myself...

MAC

olife
06-16-2011, 12:42 PM
Hey Olife,
One of the reasons we put it up as a challenge was due to the problems last time with people joining who didn't know what we were trying to do. Hence I put it up with a call for an opposite number to organise their own force to repel the attack. Mac has put himself forward so I would graciously suggest that he is the one to decide as to whether it's ok to join ad hoc as he is the only one to put forward a call to arms.
Hope that's ok

yes ,i understand my friend ,no probs,i'm totally agree with u .
exuse me again .

olife
06-16-2011, 12:53 PM
Hi Olife, Hi Gilly,

so far my call to arms has not been answered. Olife, I would be happy if you could join us in case your time allows. If not, I understand. Gilly, I'll try a bit harder to get some to join us, hopefully some more will come. It would be hard to defend the whole Podsdam conference all by myself...

MAC

hello teacher,

great thanks,

i will do the maximun to join u guys,i will see in details every things i must do in family for tomorow to see if i have many chance to join u,as GILLY is in the oppoment team we must play in the realistic tournament for our first match,and he is here too ,i think it is possible to play this mission too,just family life can be a prob.
by respect for u guys i will post here ,this night to let u know if i can or no,it will be better and easier for u to organize.
thx again

cordialy
olife

WildBoar44
06-16-2011, 08:34 PM
Hi Gilly.............:)

I am happy to join in the hunt....as long as you dont mind "Learner" plate on my kite :-P:-P:-P

If you Guy's are happy to accept me to commit to circle low over Templehoff as a compromise,.... coz I land in Sim like Ghandi Surf's....!!!! :-P:-P

If you can remind me the basic rules of your game I will get me Game face on in Sim Training.....now how does it go....?

Flaps...?.. Hmmmm............:rolleyes:
Look where ?....................:rolleyes:
Is that blue stripes or red ? ....Hmmmm:rolleyes:
Oh S*ite.....here he comes..!!....:(:(:(





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olife
06-16-2011, 11:43 PM
hi guys,

it is ok for me.

Gilly
06-17-2011, 08:32 AM
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If you can remind me the basic rules of your game I will get me Game face on in Sim Training.....now how does it go....

.

Cool Boar, good to have you onboard. Basic rules are we run away and try and hide, you try and find us before we get to pottsdam!


Well we now have three hunters confirmed, anyone else for hide and seek?

QBlackDeathQ
06-17-2011, 09:45 AM
цензуре!

MACADEMIC
06-17-2011, 10:00 AM
Hi Gilly,

A few questions about the mission:


MAP YES/NO?
Starting game from chat YES/NO
Where exactly is Cecilienhof? Can you post a map?
What are the exact criteria for mission success for each team?


Thanks,

MAC

Gilly
06-17-2011, 10:54 AM
Hi Mac,
No worries!
Pottsdam is located to the south west of the Berlin map (just south of the lake type formations)
Allies will land (or hold patterns) at Templehoff. KG200 will head to the east of the map. Upon reaching the limit KG200 will notify allies and the game commences. KG200 will succeed if they reach and successfully attack the Cecilienhoff. Allies win if they manage to destroy KG200 bombers (2) before they carry out the attack. KG200 will have only one life each whereas allies can rejoin the game upon being killed by doing a touch and go at templehoff. We'll use the strike game setup as this will prevent the map being used for long range detection as in DF and TB it will show position of enemy no matter where they are on the map.

Below is intel showing position of target as well as pottsdam.
Overview of Pottsdam area. Target is denoted by red circle
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il21.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il22.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il23.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il24.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il26.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il27.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/IL-2SturmovikBirdsOfPrey_6-1.png

The baroque palace to the south of the town is also considered as a secondary target as this is where we suspect several leaders and senior figures may be residing.
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il28.png

As for the pregame chat room I'd suggest this is a definate necessity. Hope all of this makes things clearer but let me know if anyone needs anything else.

QBlackDeathQ
06-17-2011, 10:57 AM
Hi Mac,
No worries!
Pottsdam is located to the south west of the Berlin map (just south of the lake type formations)
Allies will land (or hold patterns) at Templehoff. KG200 will head to the east of the map. Upon reaching the limit KG200 will notify allies and the game commences. KG200 will succeed if they reach and successfully attack the Cecilienhoff. Allies win if they manage to destroy KG200 bombers (2) before they carry out the attack. KG200 will have only one life each whereas allies can rejoin the game upon being killed by doing a touch and go at templehoff. We'll use the strike game setup as this will prevent the map being used for long range detection as in DF and TB it will show position of enemy no matter where they are on the map.

Below is intel showing position of target as well as pottsdam.
Overview of Pottsdam area. Target is denoted by red circle
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il21.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il22.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il23.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il24.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il26.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il27.png
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/IL-2SturmovikBirdsOfPrey_6-1.png

The baroque palace to the south of the town is also considered as a secondary target as this is where we suspect several leaders and senior figures may be residing.
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/il28.png

As for the pregame chat room I'd suggest this is a definate necessity. Hope all of this makes things clearer but let me know if anyone needs anything else.

WOW, you would have been a good Intel pilot!

Gilly
06-17-2011, 11:02 AM
WOW, you would have been a good Intel pilot!

As I spend most of my time at 15k plus in the game I've got to know most maps by ground recognition- sad really! It's why I'd hope for dynamic weather in the sequel as I can actually navigate by specific cloud formations when it's hazy!!!

As for in real life, I dunno whether the recon Spit colours suit me.....
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/e8410284.jpg

MACADEMIC
06-17-2011, 12:50 PM
Thanks Gilly, great recon!

For all the allied pilots:

Please familarize yourself with all the locations Gilly mentioned (Tempelhof, Potsdam) in game.

MAC

Chowbird2
06-17-2011, 03:54 PM
Hello Gents, I would love to join the Allies. I am coaching a soccer (Football to be pc) Saturday morning and afternoon. Hopefully I will be back in time...you know there are always extraneous factors...overtime, groupies, fisticuffs, etc...I will do my best. Looking forward to it.

Akula
06-17-2011, 04:50 PM
I'd like to fly as the Allies for this. Should be able to play at that time.
Any restrictions on aircraft? Could those who are lesser skilled at landing circle the airfield?

Better run a test flight to familiarise myself with the target(s), later on tonight.

Gilly
06-17-2011, 06:26 PM
Gentleman welcome on board! Chow, pleasure as always mate! Akula, no worries with regard to hold patterns at templehoff. Expect by the time you get there KG200 should be more or less at the eastern border. As we've said anyway, no problem with number of lives for allies providing you do a touch and go at templehoff- you'll have the best around you so worth 'practicing' and getting tips from them if it's something you want to work on. If you do crash it'll just mean you respawn back at team start point (strike map so just south east of Berlin if I remember correctly).
As for aircraft the whole basis of doing a pottsdam conference raid is that it's post war so anything goes- Allies have access to all the planes- Po-2's to 110's to 51's to Spits!! Up to you mate.

D16
06-18-2011, 06:39 PM
Hi, still possible to join in?
Not very experienced yet in sim but this sounds like fun.

Gilly
06-18-2011, 07:37 PM
Hi, still possible to join in?
Not very experienced yet in sim but this sounds like fun.

More the merrier! T-90mins....and counting!

Gilly
06-18-2011, 08:52 PM
Just to let everyone know we're pushing this back 30mins to 10.30pm
That's 40mins from time of this post.

WildBoar44
06-18-2011, 08:55 PM
That's cool...........:-P

D16
06-18-2011, 09:38 PM
Damn, I'm grounded. Sudden heavy cloudbase, no take off, (alcohol and jewellery). I know, I know, wrong priorities ;).
I'm hooked on sim though, but it is hard to master as mr. KAV & themeister so kindly showed me last night :D
I hope there will be more missions like this soon in the future. Adds another exciting level.

Good luck in the sky!
Cheers!

Hicks-81
06-18-2011, 10:49 PM
who won?

Though I was shot down, has been great. Flying without a map, guiding me through the field, not knowing where the enemy comes. During my flight I saw a Me262, which after a few bursts of my gunners, contact breaks. Later a Spitfire one pass me, reaching my right wing. I exhaust the dorsal gunner's ammunition. Finally, I put two fighters in my 6 o´clock and after the first pass, second gets down me.

My biggest regret is my bad English spoken, and my nervous :(


When do we play next? :grin:

KAV
06-18-2011, 11:45 PM
Damn, I'm grounded. Sudden heavy cloudbase, no take off, (alcohol and jewellery). I know, I know, wrong priorities ;).
I'm hooked on sim though, but it is hard to master as mr. KAV & themeister so kindly showed me last night :D
I hope there will be more missions like this soon in the future. Adds another exciting level.

Good luck in the sky!
Cheers!

Good to have you onboard the SIM team D16

As I am mentioned, not ment to be offencive, but whats yor psn id ?

D16
06-19-2011, 01:41 AM
Good to have you onboard the SIM team D16

As I am mentioned, not ment to be offencive, but whats yor psn id ?

Ah, sorry KAV. I am SDK3113, the swede :)
It's a great pleasure to fly with you.
Incredible. I learn a lot each time.
Hopefully I'll soon get the hang of things and won't be such an easy target.
I truly respect and thank you for your patience and support for us beginners.
Sim is the way to go...

WildBoar44
06-19-2011, 09:46 AM
Hi Gilly........Sorry flyer:(.....got into the game and forgot the request to do a touch and go at Templehof if shot down......think I respawned twice and flew on the hunt without the touch and Go


........Apologies Ace....:oops:

MACADEMIC
06-19-2011, 09:55 AM
Just as an observation, noticed that some of KG200 got killed but stayed in the game. Was there a change of rules before we started, or was that by mistake?

MAC

winny
06-19-2011, 09:57 AM
Hi Gilly........Sorry flyer:(.....got into the game and forgot the request to do a touch and go at Templehof if shot down......think I respawned twice and flew on the hunt without the touch and Go


........Apologies Ace....:oops:

I did a very similar thing, sorry. I wasn't expecting to be home for this so I never read the rules...

McQ59
06-19-2011, 11:34 AM
Just as an observation, noticed that some of KG200 got killed but stayed in the game. Was there a change of rules before we started, or was that by mistake?

MAC

Cheers gents. I am sorry about the bad connection that made the pic freeze and the planes a bit hard to manage a cpl of times in there. I guess my net is a bit on on overload sometimes during weekends.

And then to MAC... You are of course right. I for one did that. My engine went black before I even got near any allied palene. I got to fire a burst after Wild, just before he got downed by Gilly, and then my engine just stopped. I didn't have the dicipline just to draw back after respawning - and went full throttle in to battle again. Got a few rounds in a clp of allied before Chowbird flamed me... Hell! I want revenge! And went in there again... ;-)

I hope some you gents had fun. That's the idea anyway. When Gilly had dropped his bombs from about 25.000 feets the dogs of war in the castle allready had gotten theire dinnerjackets torn, coctails shattered and eveningh ruined in genera,l so I guess the mission was completed. Rest of it was pure dogfight and bomberchase.

Thanks to everyone for taking part. See you in the skies gents :-)

KAV
06-19-2011, 12:43 PM
Just as an observation, noticed that some of KG200 got killed but stayed in the game. Was there a change of rules before we started, or was that by mistake?

MAC

Yes, I am guilty of charge.
Me in a P51D and Hicks in an IL-4 flew decoy and was intercepted by theMeistor who shot me down. I should then have stayed outta the game, but since we were far off from the main target I respawned as I supposed me reentry never would interfere with the main objective of the KG200. After Gilly radioed bombs away I found another allied attacker, a P51D flown by Macademic ;) and shot him down.
I am sorry for my bad manners.

MACADEMIC
06-19-2011, 01:42 PM
Lol KAV, I thought I got killed by a ghost... ;)
Good fun gents!

MAC

olife
06-19-2011, 02:21 PM
I did a very similar thing, sorry. I wasn't expecting to be home for this so I never read the rules...

first great thanks to gilly to create this one,and thanks to all the guys.

no probs kav ,u are not guilty for sure,it is the first game we did like it and it is normal we did some little errors.

i' m guilty too ,my apologies too ,i forget the rule "land at tempehoff if u are shoot down" and i must say i was complete "lose"...lol...every body respawned...i thought maybe i didn't understand rules...in fact it was the case too,especially for the rule :"map or no map allowed?"i understood nothing ...and use map sometimes...i was right or wrong?...exuse me again.i must say i quited game because i understood nothing and complete lose .exuse me gents ,i'm sorry ,my bad english disturbe me a lot to understand all in game time.

i think that some points can be improve this sort of super game:
.respect of the historic planes use by the interntional air forces during ww2,the axis teams must use axis planes and allied team must use allied planes
.i think a guy who is shoot down in flames or crash or crash into the ennemy plane must quite game immediately cause he is dead(exept host who go land)
if he crash into ennemy plane,the ennemy player is dead too and quite game too,he is dead.(exept host who go land)
.if a guy bail out ,he can return in game after a 15 seconds respawn time and wait the game put him again in game automatically and not respawn after 15 seconds because of his action on the cross button with his fingers
.no map,no hud

i think it will be very relistic and favour the team work.maybe it is too hard to do,in fact it is in my opinion but the fun must be great.this is just my opinion,what do u think?

Akula
06-19-2011, 02:39 PM
"During my flight I saw a Me262"


I was the one in the 262. I had to break off that engagement due to running out of ammunition. I think i had knocked out one, maybe two engines on Gilly's B-17G so something good came out of my aircraft choice.

It was a pretty fun game, GG McQ, Gilly, Meistor (Sp.?), Kav, Olife, Mac, Hicks & Whoever i may have missed.

Hicks-81
06-19-2011, 06:14 PM
I was the one in the 262. I had to break off that engagement due to running out of ammunition. I think i had knocked out one, maybe two engines on Gilly's B-17G so something good came out of my aircraft choice.

It was a pretty fun game, GG McQ, Gilly, Meistor (Sp.?), Kav, Olife, Mac, Hicks & Whoever i may have missed.

My honorable enemy, you made me sweat. I thought that at any time, you'd give me a deadly blast and made short bursts trying to scare you.

Thank you all :grin:. We have to repeat

Gilly
06-19-2011, 10:48 PM
Great game guys. Was going to be difficult with some many late arrivals not seeing the rules here. All in all a good laugh none the less. Did try and get a few shots in-between being mullered by those focke!!

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/IL-2SturmovikBirdsOfPrey_11-2.png

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/paulcgill/IL-2SturmovikBirdsOfPrey_10-2.png

McQ59
06-20-2011, 07:16 AM
Great bomberflying Gilly :-)

I'll redo this anytime.

olife
06-20-2011, 03:09 PM
great pics GILLY!!!!memphis belle in action!!!!

Gilly
06-20-2011, 03:17 PM
great pics GILLY!!!!memphis belle in action!!!!

Thanks mate. Next time I'll check my six before switching to take a photo as I discovered it's hard to return fire when locked in photomode!!!

P-51
06-20-2011, 03:18 PM
Now this sounded like a proper blast! Pity it was late, I cant manage much after 22:00gtm (even though I'm British :p - the mother gets annoyed).

If there is a repeat at a more feasible time, then I'd be happy to join you!

Gilly
06-20-2011, 03:29 PM
Now this sounded like a proper blast! Pity it was late, I cant manage much after 22:00gtm (even though I'm British :p - the mother gets annoyed).

If there is a repeat at a more feasible time, then I'd be happy to join you!

Anytime fella. We set it at that time to get our cross-channel and colonial (sorry couldn't resist) friends in on it. It's a balancing act sadly, earlier would certainly mean they guys stateside having to change afternoon plans which on a Saturday is difficult. That said if we can get a group together earlier, all who understand the game then there's no reason why not.
Was a real nice game on Saturday, think we played for over an hour in total!
KG200 were even cheeky enough to fly directly above templehoff albeit at 25,000ft and dropped a couple of bombs in the vain hope there would be aircraft there or even doing touch n go's!!!
Accomplished the object on the first run thanks to hicks and kavs diversion tactics and then had a bit of a furball battle between the respawn points.....all I was trying to do was get some pics of pottsdam but I may as well as had a huge neon sign saying attack me. Did manage to reach pottsdam via a low level 50ft river run (incl bridges) which has given me an idea for another I need to develop. Anytime your about your always welcome.

FOZ_1983
06-20-2011, 03:36 PM
Anytime fella. We set it at that time to get our cross-channel and colonial (sorry couldn't resist) friends in on it. It's a balancing act sadly, earlier would certainly mean they guys stateside having to change afternoon plans which on a Saturday is difficult. That said if we can get a group together earlier, all who understand the game then there's no reason why not.
Was a real nice game on Saturday, think we played for over an hour in total!
KG200 were even cheeky enough to fly directly above templehoff albeit at 25,000ft and dropped a couple of bombs in the vain hope there would be aircraft there or even doing touch n go's!!!
Accomplished the object on the first run thanks to hicks and kavs diversion tactics and then had a bit of a furball battle between the respawn points.....all I was trying to do was get some pics of pottsdam but I may as well as had a huge neon sign saying attack me. Did manage to reach pottsdam via a low level 50ft river run (incl bridges) which has given me an idea for another I need to develop. Anytime your about your always welcome.

Sounds like the Dambusters to me :D

Gilly
06-20-2011, 03:42 PM
Sounds like the Dambusters to me :D

Sadly no BIII special or dams.....yet!!!!
Need to check more of the rivers out though...and the korsun valleys

Chowbird2
06-20-2011, 06:34 PM
Incredible pictures, Gilly. That definitely was a blast.

WildBoar44
06-20-2011, 06:46 PM
Reflected thought's......High & Low's..........KG200 Game :-P

Game start.......Get the "GO" message from Gilly..........

Honour at stake here......fly off and patrol the North-South line from Templehof.....keep a vigil me thinks....get a lick on.....close the gap...time goes bye.....nothing....nothing.....then southern leg off to the west a pale of smoke rising into the air...!Blast it !!....how the F:( did they get past me.....!!!

right....FULL WEP......get over there.....nothing.....(this sound familiar !!)......so me thinks....maybe they got shot down and are coming back over the North-South line.....so FULL WEP....get over there.....

Clank Clank Clank Brrrrrrrr..........(engine stopped ! ).....my gosh...did not know that could happen.....MY GOD...look at the detailed scratches on the back of the blades through the windshield...COOL....:cool::cool:..........

Now I have a P51D glider.....:(.....No Hud...No Map....can I get back to Templehof....?......think its over there....?....Its real sureal....silence....
and the wind outside.....all the time listening to the Allied pilots chatting..
....how beautifull is this.....not gonna make it.....at least I am used to Bailing out.....Weeee:cool:


Respawn......Ah...see one ...deffo twin engine up there....climb like mercy.....
....turn on his tail...gettin closer....closer....closer....he has not seen me.....
press the trigger.....ratatatata!!!....ME262....yeah take that....Oh...Akula?....
he's Allied.....Ooooops.....quick dive away.... like he aint seen me......!!:(


Ah....smoke trail up there...lets have a closer look...Ah...Four engine's....that's
Gilly....!!!.....get closer....drop under then pull up.....Ratatatata!!!!...Full 20 second burst...banging away like a baseball bat on a barn door....not a sausage:(... Mr G returns the compliment.....BOOOM...!!:-P


Tension followed by Terror....yup that summed it up....

Thanks for having me there Guy's



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