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machoo
06-14-2011, 06:55 AM
Like really dead. I don't come here for a few days and the same threads are still on the page with only a few new topics. You'd think the general section would be the most active.

PeterPanPan
06-14-2011, 07:00 AM
Yup, the peak of activity has certainly passed. I've noticed this too. No doubt when the next patch comes out, we'll have something to talk about again. But where is the promised forum manager with weekly updates?

PPP

Grand_Armee
06-14-2011, 07:07 AM
I'm sure that oince it's released in the US we'll have a lot more posts. Right now most of us are waiting quietly while we have nothing to say, nothing to ask, and for some, nothing to whine about.

Someday, perhaps the CloD forums will overshadow the 1946 forum.

JG52Krupi
06-14-2011, 07:18 AM
What did you expect most of us are too busy flying now to post!!!

To be fair the sub forums are a lot more active (damn iPhone stop changing my words ffs) than this top level one, I'm guessing it's giving off a false impression of a dead forum...

Tree_UK
06-14-2011, 07:37 AM
Well i guess the forums are a pretty accurate representation as to where the game is at.
The devs do not seem to be worried that interest in their product is waning rapidly, otherwise they would be in here trying to whip us up and create some excitement or give us something to look forward too.

JG52Krupi
06-14-2011, 07:41 AM
Why!!!!!!

Why waste time doing that, if we want an accurate ww2 flight simulator they know and you know that we have no one else to turn too... Just let them get on working with the patch.

Anyway last time they tried to generate some exciment and show that they are not giving up... The il2 pic... A XXXXstorm broke loose, clearly it's better for them to stay away from these angry forums until they have something to talk about like the next patch.

xnomad
06-14-2011, 07:56 AM
A week and a half ago Luthier said the next patch is due in two weeks (due June 17th). I think a lot of people went away and will come back when the patch is released.

Remember the hotfix and patch broke a lot of things so people aren't playing anymore, I haven't played multiplayer since then so it's no surprise that people are not really playing the game and will likely be back when it's patch time.

Ali Fish
06-14-2011, 08:17 AM
far to much analysis here.

bongodriver
06-14-2011, 08:35 AM
far to much analysis here.

+1

David198502
06-14-2011, 08:36 AM
ali, dont waste your time posting here but go back to work on your texture mod.i think its not only me observing what you are doing.i appreciate your work and the support for the game with your mod!for me its the most interesting thread right now,except when luthier posts official news.sorry for beeing off topic.
the forum seems indeed pretty deserted.

Robert
06-14-2011, 08:51 AM
Well i guess the forums are a pretty accurate representation as to where the game is at.
The devs do not seem to be worried that interest in their product is waning rapidly, otherwise they would be in here trying to whip us up and create some excitement or give us something to look forward too.


If that were true Tree you wouldn't be here. C'mon. Admit it. As disappointed as you may be with CoD you'll still be hanging around waiting for improvements. It IS what we all want. Right? We're adults, and we really don't need to be as informed as some people feel is necessary. No matter how much we kvetch and whine we are sim enthusiasts. That in itself will keep us coming back.

I'm pretty content waiting to see what patches bring. Is it really necessary for Luthier to babysit us when he clearly outlined the plan for the next few weeks 10 days ago? Sure, I want the improvements in like last week, but they're working on it.

If only 35% of what was outlined would be accomplished by last Friday, what good would it be to have an update on that?

The reason I think it's dead is because the beta patch won't be ready until Friday. Those who can play do. Those who can't hopefully wait patiently despite how frustrating it can be. Others are enjoying other games like RoF or XPlane or MSFS or Blackshark or or or.

I also think people are just tired of fighting with each other.

TeeJay82
06-14-2011, 10:13 AM
Amen Robert

PeterPanPan
06-14-2011, 10:34 AM
... also, their are way to many mispelling's in this thread ;) (sorry, couldn't resist ... let the flaming begin)

Tree_UK
06-14-2011, 10:47 AM
If that were true Tree you wouldn't be here. C'mon. Admit it. As disappointed as you may be with CoD you'll still be hanging around waiting for improvements. It IS what we all want. Right? We're adults, and we really don't need to be as informed as some people feel is necessary. No matter how much we kvetch and whine we are sim enthusiasts. That in itself will keep us coming back.

I'm pretty content waiting to see what patches bring. Is it really necessary for Luthier to babysit us when he clearly outlined the plan for the next few weeks 10 days ago? Sure, I want the improvements in like last week, but they're working on it.

If only 35% of what was outlined would be accomplished by last Friday, what good would it be to have an update on that?

The reason I think it's dead is because the beta patch won't be ready until Friday. Those who can play do. Those who can't hopefully wait patiently despite how frustrating it can be. Others are enjoying other games like RoF or XPlane or MSFS or Blackshark or or or.

I also think people are just tired of fighting with each other.

Well I hope its not true Robert, I admit that, but I honestly think that Luthier is playing a dangerous game by not communicating more frequently with us, either him or one of his team. If the dev's are going to continue to support this game when all the cash as been counted like they said they would, then you would expect them to be bending over backwards to keep us up to date after releasing a product in such a poor state, especially if they wish to release future add on's, and more importantly win back some respect and trust.

Blackdog_kt
06-14-2011, 11:50 AM
They don't really need to, they are effectively a monopoly in the WWII flight sim market. :-P


I actually like the current situation

- Those for whom the sim works are busy flying it, those that can't are waiting for patches

- Luthier gave us the short-term roadmap just a few days ago. And no, i don't need to know what goes on in their office on a day by day basis, a "patch-bug report-dev update-next patch" cycle is all that's needed.

- The main forum page is general discussion like it should be and specific topics go into the respective sub-forums.

It's a nice, easy to browse forum now that people have learned some netiquette and take the time to post in the relevant section. If by what many refer to as an "excited" forum they mean the situation shortly after release, then i'm very thankful we don't have it anymore.

It wasn't excited, it was a disorganized mess of double/triple posting threads on the main page because people couldn't take the time to use forum search and see if their issues had been brought up, along with a lot of "the sim is completely broken/no it's completely perfect" wishful thinking arguments.

I guess people got tired of arguing just for the sake of it. About time i say, as that leaves the stage free for others who can contribute in a more useful manner.

It's actually easy to browse through now and you can quickly find what interests you, instead of having to wade through an avalanche of agitated posts.

Tree_UK
06-14-2011, 12:35 PM
They don't really need to, they are effectively a monopoly in the WWII flight sim market. :-P


I actually like the current situation

- Those for whom the sim works are busy flying it, those that can't are waiting for patches

- Luthier gave us the short-term roadmap just a few days ago. And no, i don't need to know what goes on in their office on a day by day basis, a "patch-bug report-dev update-next patch" cycle is all that's needed.

- The main forum page is general discussion like it should be and specific topics go into the respective sub-forums.

It's a nice, easy to browse forum now that people have learned some netiquette and take the time to post in the relevant section. If by what many refer to as an "excited" forum they mean the situation shortly after release, then i'm very thankful we don't have it anymore.

It wasn't excited, it was a disorganized mess of double/triple posting threads on the main page because people couldn't take the time to use forum search and see if their issues had been brought up, along with a lot of "the sim is completely broken/no it's completely perfect" wishful thinking arguments.

I guess people got tired of arguing just for the sake of it. About time i say, as that leaves the stage free for others who can contribute in a more useful manner.

It's actually easy to browse through now and you can quickly find what interests you, instead of having to wade through an avalanche of agitated posts.

Do you really believe that though Blackdog? In a recent poll on here the majority of CLOD buyers had shelved it. I can get it to run fine now for FPS that is, but the rest of the game is so broken theres little point playing it.

Ataros
06-14-2011, 12:58 PM
but the rest of the game is so broken theres little point playing it.

It depends more on point of view and perception filters imho. Others may perceive it differently thus you can not say for everyone I think.

ATAG_Doc
06-14-2011, 12:59 PM
Do you really believe that though Blackdog? In a recent poll on here the majority of CLOD buyers had shelved it. I can get it to run fine now for FPS that is, but the rest of the game is so broken theres little point playing it.

I'm not believing any of that. I believe the forum is full of trolls that love piling into threads like these. I suggest we make a sticky for these rants so you can come visit each other in one place.

But why post at all? Why? Does one think that this matters? There are many post like this at least once a day.

I play the hell out of CoD and love every minute.

They forget this isn't finished nor released to most who want it. So a lot of this is sideline chatter which says most are not even in the game yet. But they post as if they were.

Langnasen
06-14-2011, 02:52 PM
I play the hell out of CoD and love every minute.



You're in an extremely small minority.

ATAG_Doc
06-14-2011, 03:01 PM
I do feel very fortunate. Thanks

SNAFU
06-14-2011, 03:18 PM
I do not have any performance issues anymore, besides broken textures and glitches, an idle GPU and not used 3 CPU cores,the ATI Ralley Stripes, regular crashes and fading sounds.

So I really enjoy the game too at the moment, at least the FMB. It`s fun tinkering around a scenery and picturing how great it could be to use this all some happy day. Maybe they should have left all the planes out and just give me something to built up. ;)

Flying is fun too(, at least for a few minutes until you remember why you left the cockpit und went for the FMB.) The physics and flight behavior of the planes is really amusing and it makes me grin from one ear to another, when I watch AI Blenheims doing snaprolls in almost perfect formation, even though the leader lost the tail fin, both elavators, one ailron and one engine. :-P:cool:

Another of my favorites is watching big formations in a turn. The rain of debris after every waypoint when they crash into each other is really a worth watching. :-)

But that is just when I get tired of fighting the FMB zoom-scale-slider.... :evil:

Gamekeeper
06-14-2011, 03:29 PM
In a recent poll on here the majority of CLOD buyers had shelved it. I can get it to run fine now for FPS that is, but the rest of the game is so broken theres little point playing it.

I play the hell out of CoD and love every minute.

You're in an extremely small minority.

A poll where only 350 members voted and was started a patch or two ago, looking at the mid range of the poll one third claim to have shelved it (120), one third are happy with it [148]. Not only out of date it is also a very small sample of the user base.

People need too get some perspective on these forums there are too many posts with sweeping statements made with little or no evidence with numbers and statistics plucked out of the air.

ATAG_Doc
06-14-2011, 03:37 PM
You can put all the poles you want up on the forums. Kids from all over the globe troll forums. Show me your receipts! The majority of them are sideline catcalls.

Blackdog_kt
06-14-2011, 04:04 PM
Do you really believe that though Blackdog? In a recent poll on here the majority of CLOD buyers had shelved it. I can get it to run fine now for FPS that is, but the rest of the game is so broken theres little point playing it.

I wasn't commenting on the state of the sim, but on the state of the forums.

In that regard, i sincerely prefer the current situation. Issues are reported in a calm and actually useful way (eg, Insuber's bug list thread), our opinions are better presented and formulated for the most part which helps get the point across, people are tweaking whatever it's possible to tweak and getting experience with all aspects of the sim (FMB, scripting, mods) and when the SDK arrives they'll have accumulated some useful experience, etc.

The sim is far from perfect, but we at least have a good amount of synergy going on that will improve things for all of us in the long run. ;)

335th_GRAthos
06-14-2011, 04:58 PM
A week and a half ago Luthier said the next patch is due in two weeks (due June 17th). I think a lot of people went away and will come back when the patch is released.

+1


What is needed is known, there are enough posts.

We do not have feedback on what they are really working upon though, but I have immense trust that everything will be fixed end of this week ;)

~S~

Jaws2002
06-14-2011, 05:08 PM
All COD forums had a major slowdown. Here, at UBI, simHQ....The interest for this game is dying and you have to remember, it's summer. People spend time outside.

ATAG_Doc
06-14-2011, 05:12 PM
True. It's summer and for me simming is a winter hobby mostly. That is unless everything gets fixed in the middle of summer and its released to everyone. Then I will postpone my trips to the lake.

kimosabi
06-14-2011, 06:35 PM
All COD forums had a major slowdown. Here, at UBI, simHQ....The interest for this game is dying and you have to remember, it's summer. People spend time outside.

Dingdingding!

jctrnacty
06-14-2011, 07:05 PM
I would call it:

calm before storm.

Tree_UK
06-14-2011, 07:33 PM
Playing a dangerous game? Lol, this guy is too much. He already updated us awhile ago, please go read his last sticky post and stop crying you little girl. They have my respect simply for developing this sim, no one else appears to be making a WW2 flight sim at the moment, at least not with any degree of realism. They have my trust since I know they are working on patches, what more do you want? Tree, all I have ever seen you do in all your posts is complain about lack of communication from Luthier. It should be obvious to you by now that he doesnt care about your whining and has better things to do(like fixing the game) than waste time placating impatient baby girls like you.

As for the forums, yeah they are slowing down. Every possible complaint and point has already been brought up so its no wonder. When the US release hits it will pick up, and after the next patch as well. Oh ye of little faith...

Ive read you posts before, quite a tough guy behind that computer screen arn't you. :grin::grin::grin::grin:

Rattlehead
06-14-2011, 07:42 PM
I would call it:

calm before storm.

Probably. ;)

Robert
06-14-2011, 08:21 PM
Well I hope its not true Robert, I admit that, but I honestly think that Luthier is playing a dangerous game by not communicating more frequently with us, either him or one of his team. If the dev's are going to continue to support this game when all the cash as been counted like they said they would, then you would expect them to be bending over backwards to keep us up to date after releasing a product in such a poor state, especially if they wish to release future add on's, and more importantly win back some respect and trust.


I don't understand why bending over backwards to keep us up to date would benefit anyone when a map has been laid out, Tree. Sure, I'm curious. Yes I'd like to know. But do I NEED to know?

The team has made 3 (?) patches so far, and if memory serves me they made a road map for each one. What vital information would you glean from a weekly post when progress is going as carefully as it is? What emotional fulfillment would any of us get if Luthier would come in and report that we're 40% complete. Things are going as well as expected.

He could say we've knocked out the SLI issue at the 40% mark. Then what if something else being worked on after that 40% update interferes with THAT progress and they're back at square one. Who benefits?

I think they have every good intention of doing Friday updates, but when there isn't a plethora of information to report weekly, why should they be required ti make a report? The bi-weekly report suffices for me when they've displayed they progress map.


Looking at it like I do, I can't see why it's such a dangerous game when Luthier can't make an un-promised schedule.