multiplayer-how do i know if i hunt ai or a real person?

[David198502]

today i decided to try multiplayer again after a few weeks of singleplayer frustration-enjoyment experience.

i played about two hours on a full real server with 10players online.
i was chasing dots which dissapeared after a couple of minutes.i was chasing bombers which turned out to be ai planes.shot down several of them, but never saw one plane which was actually flown by a human.
this expierence was even more frustrating than playing single player with the porked ai, where one at least know that you deal with a computer rendered enemy.
wouldnt it be better to have no ai in multiplayer, at least at the moment?flying in the channel map, with 10 players online, you have to fly some time to discover an enemy.but if that enemy is then only ai, its dissapointing to waste your ammo to on that target.
if there where no ai planes,sure the map would be pretty empty, but at least you would know to hunt a real challenging enemy, if you spottet one.

[Vengeanze]

What you're looking for is dogfight rooms. Seems most are coop mission rooms right now and then you'll need AI to fill up.

[Ataros]

There is no AI on Repka #3 server. Feel free to join.

On Repka #1 if you see a single engine fighter you can be 100% sure it is driven by a human pilot. Most of bombers are AI of cause as they are added on purpose because not many players fly bombers.

You can always chose a server without AI if you like. It is good to have various servers for different tastes.

[Sven]

And otherwise movement, I've played quite a lot vs a mix of AI and humans, but after a short while it's obvious who's brain is made from iron and which ones arent.

[Insuber]

AI in servers is an absolute need, given the few online players. And you could never hope to find a formation of 12 human Heinkels nowadays (neither in Il2 1946 to be fair, apart from virtual wars), so it ain't BoB really without blessed AI's...

Back to the OP:

- Sometimes, when you engage an AI fighter it oscillates very quickly his wings as if he couldn't decide where to turn. Humans don't do that.
- If a fighter detects you in difficult visibility conditions (e.g. against ground), it's most probably an AI.
- A fast series of tonneaux declares itself as an AI fighter (although I've seen this only in offline as of today).
- Formations of bombers (from 2 bombers upwards) are 100% AI. Even if a human bomber tries to join it (but very few humans fly a bomber presently), normally he cannot keep pace.


With experience you will easily tell an AI from a human, most of times at least ... :).

Cheers,
Insuber

[335th_GRAthos]

AI in servers is an absolute need, given the few online players.


+1

I think the possibility ot have AIs spawning is a great new feature compard to the original IL2.

Regarding AI fighters, my experience on the REKA server (islands) Bf109 AIs is that they are fantastic and very hard to hit, do all tricks of the trade and as soon as they gained separation distance, run away like hell. Very good performance!

~S~

[pupo162]

its a great feature but missio nbuilder should be able to turn it off. If i wanted to shoot down AI's i will stick offline.

i do i wlwminate the ability to spawn ai's as a mission buildeR??

[David198502]

thx for all the answers.
but i didnt find a full real server with no ai yet.on syndicate full real you can chase a dot for several minutes to find that its an ai bomber.

[l3uLLDoZeR]

Half of the time syndicate has AI..the other half it does not! We played last night in the dark with about 10 guys and no AI for 4 hours.

Like the guy above said..once you play for a week you will easily be able to tell the AI from a human. You won't see him long before he shoots ya down!

[Thee_oddball]

multiplayer-how do i know if i hunt ai or a real person?

thats easy ..as soon as you start shooting at them if there a real person they will open there canopyand scream...PISS OFF!:lol:

S!

[Blackdog_kt]

In all fairness that's not an issue with the sim. It's just how each server admin chooses to run his server, if people don't like it they join a different one.

[Strike]

Just type in the chat:

"This statement is false"

AI can't comprehend to that statement and all AI planes will self-destruct leaving you to hunt the real players.

[ATAG_Doc]

The best tactic is to shoot each one of them down.

[Krt_Bong]

I can never understand why some want to insist that all servers be without AI after all it is a huge map and to get a BoB feel it needs many aircraft, waves of Bombers etc.. people can still fly fighters and either be escorts or interceptors so what is the big deal if you shoot down an AI plane as opposed to human, it's still a kill isn't it? I have jumped on every server that had a population of more than one and really have yet to find anyone, that said I have found AI on those servers that had them and it still is a huge map and a challenge to get to them and shoot them down. I want AI Bombers and Shipping and Vehicles if only to give the map some life! I want to see Trains which I haven't seen yet, so really what is the problem with this?

[ATAG_Doc]

Some people. It does not matter if it is AI or human. They all must be shot down. Everything must be laid to waste. All I want to see when I look over my shoulder is my wingman and a lot of carnage falling from the skies.