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Ivan Fooker
06-05-2011, 08:25 PM
I get my 109 properly started.
Tailwheel locked, flaps at 15°,PP at 12h, full throttle,tail lifting...
Everything works fine up to around 200-220km/h then the plane fall over its prop (Ringelpietz) ,like if i kick full brake.
I ve no clue what i am doing wrong here.
A 10000 starts in Il2 went perfect past years.
But for the sake of god, i am not able to get the plane correc into air...
Any ideas?
Edit: After recording my attempts i noticed my prop hits the airstrip ,what then leads to a Ringelpietz.
1./JG2_Miller
06-05-2011, 10:03 PM
Try to set trim to 6-8 and lift at about 180 km/h. I always set it to 8 and slightly pull back my stick. Then the plane will do the rest and you just have to adjust your trim.
Binnies
06-05-2011, 11:45 PM
In short; Take off earlier.
Usually I set trim to 1 or 2 and I take off at 200Km/h but you need to pull the stick back a little or you"ll hit the ground like you're describing.
VO101_Tom
06-06-2011, 12:19 AM
I get my 109 properly started.
...
Any ideas?
Flat. Bf 109 operating limits (cod manual aroung p.90): vmax on ground: 220 km/h
(Take of flap is 20° - 4 full turn with flap wheel)
Warhound
06-06-2011, 12:20 AM
Think it's a tire that blows and digs into the ground, hard to check in fullreal.
Regardless taking off before 200KPH prevents the issue from occuring. :-P
Bobb4
06-06-2011, 09:39 AM
I have recorded several tracks with a 110 and had similiar problems.
The tyres do burst, especially on a concrete strip. You should find you get further on a grass strip but it will do the same eventually.
It is easy to test and i am sure it is modelled according to heat friction.
I suggest getting airborne earlier. I have no idea if the problem is realistic or not though?
Porsche
06-08-2011, 05:08 AM
I was having the same issue and I found that I have to reverse my breaks. I use a pedal set and my breaks were on without me realizing it. Once I reversed the settings I have not had an issue. Hope this helps.
Ivan Fooker
06-09-2011, 10:38 AM
Thanx for all your input.
Ya really presume the tire is bursting?:confused::-P
I thought it would be the prop hitting the strip, although i couldnt imagine it to be that long.
Take off at around 180km/h is not much, even if you got a bomb below.
Gonna test it, thx again!
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