is there any gore on the game? if there is, can be utrn off?

[raaaid]

once i had a nasty nightmare in which i was flying a 109

i shot ultraprecisely the backgunner of a bomber

that was nasty: half man half bloddy mass :(

later i discovered il246 had a gore image of a back gunner turn into a bloddy mass

i had never noticed but my subcouncious did

i have a double life in dreams in which im a 109 experten

but plz no gore i want no nightmares

is gore on?

if its on can i turn it off?

[pupo162]

no gore... no worries

[raaaid]

thanks now going multiplayer to hunt some bombers

i like to get close and eliminate gunners one by one :)

edit:

im playing right now my moms comment

why do you breathe like that?

oh mom im playing online and my heart beats fast, look thats a guy maybe form australia, is like exercise for my heart

my moms comment: humm maybe thats not very healthy

moms :)

[bongodriver]

Thats my brave little soldier :grin:

[raaaid]

actually you can out turns spits with 109

i just outturnerded severals X)

that was when my mom made her remark

the trick is going at 220 kph

you are making a tighter circle at 220 than the spit at 250

[Strike]

this is only slightly on topic :P

Raaaid, you need your own forum section man :P you keep "shouting" out your thoughts about everything here :P Not that I mind, it's just... you are LOL :P

[bongodriver]

Theres a topic?........i thought it was a raaaid thread.

[philip.ed]

You're 37? You live with your Mum?

OK...onto the topic though Raaaid, I don't understand; you can't stand gore, but are callous enough to eliminate the gunners one by one?
BTW Raaaid, this is your double life: you're dreaming.

[raaaid]

well normally i dont shoot online

when my mom told me i was breathing faster i had a spit on sight at 30 m and didnt shoot

dint want to take away the beauty of the moment :)

[Qpassa]

que pesado que eres tío

[raaaid]

well im on topic :confused:

would anyone want a record of a 109 oiut turning a sopit online?

[Strike]

dint want to take away the beauty of the moment :)

But you know you want it... squeeeeze.... squeeeeze the trigger! Blood will flow, and at 30 m you might get stains on your own canopy :P

Sorry, war is hell. Seen memphis belle? The tomato can that gets hit by flak kindof gives you the idea of what actually had happened if the shrapnel took a little different path :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHZYPWdPwjA&feature=related

Here go to 6:40 this one is for you Raaaid ;)

[bongodriver]

Dayum Strike.......poor little fellas gonna be wetting the bed!

[raaaid]

well i hope you believe me when i say that i out turned two spitss 11 with a 109 in five minutes

try it the trick is keeping the speed at 220 :)

not to keell sustentation just a slightly above

youll havew a much tighter circle radius the 109 at 220 than the speed at 250

gotta love this game

they are honest persons they say it was up to the pilot dogfights not the plane(so close in performance) ibn the manual and now i see its tue

oh an i run the game at 80 fps by decreasing res and check my specs :)

edit:

i could only watched 53 seconds before my eyes got kind of watering

i wonder if people realize in a way theyre playing a game fow which has been written millions pages on techniques on how to kill :(

[bongodriver]

well i hope you believe me when i say that i out turned two spitss 11 with a 109 in five minutes

if you say so.....there is not reason to doubt it.

try it the trick is keeping the speed at 220

not to keell sustentation just a slightly above

youll havew a much tighter circle radius the 109 at 220 than the speed at 250

if the spit also reduces to 220 then you lose

they are honest persons they say it was up to the pilot dogfights not the plane(so close in performance) ibn the manual and now i see its tue


widely held view that has been around since dogfighting.


oh an i run the game at 80 fps by decreasing res and check my specs

no brainer....with your specs you have little choice but reduce res

i wonder if people realize in a way theyre playing a game fow which has been written millions pages on techniques on how to kill


Yes....yes they do, it is inconcieveable that anyone has missed this point.

[raaaid]

were people in war shooting parahoots killing smoking not dangerous planes going ten to one shoulder shooting even to the point of collide?

gentelmenlike online should be enforced:(

maybe thats why i dont ofeten shoot online

when i see something bad im a rebel and do the opposite

my not shooting online is a complain for the score herds

and i think the beahviour could get much better online if comms was integrated with the game as people would reaqlize theyre real people theyre playing with with feelings and if they vulch theyll get insulted feel bad and think twice

maybe they implement it as they fix the radio :)

[Psit]

once i had a nasty nightmare in which i was flying a 109

i shot ultraprecisely the backgunner of a bomber

that was nasty: half man half bloddy mass :(

later i discovered il246 had a gore image of a back gunner turn into a bloddy mass

i had never noticed but my subcouncious did

i have a double life in dreams in which im a 109 experten

but plz no gore i want no nightmares

is gore on?

if its on can i turn it off?



Get a life?

Sorry i couldnt resist.

[raaaid]

well im juast having a nice conversation about the game, thats what forums are for

that my points are odd doesnt neceraly make me more of a nerd than the rest ;)

i mean a beeter pilot will out turn a spit with a 109

oh sacrilege spits were better dogfighter, spits won the war, you would speak german if it was not the spits burn the withc

[Rolltide88]

well im juast having a nice conversation about the game, thats what forums are for

that my points are odd doesnt neceraly make me more of a nerd than the rest ;)

i mean a beeter pilot will out turn a spit with a 109

oh sacrilege spits were better dogfighter, spits won the war, you would speak german if it was not the spits burn the withc

Ya You're right. The Americans had nothing to do with it. :rolleyes:

[Kongo-Otto]

raaaid you should use Seroquel or Sulpitac, it will help you.

[raaaid]

plz just comment game things as i do :)

seems people like to discuss more my person

does your heart beat fast when your on a dogfight?

mine does and this and il246 are the only games that do it :)

now europe is gone to bed ill go play some old il2 with amerikans :)

this got me hooked again :)

[Psit]

omg this guy is hilarious xD

I want some of the stuff or smoking.

NOW

[raaaid]

thanks but i dont do drygs

think there can be kids around who want tobe like me when adults :)

oh can you believe i just got kicked from rcaf for outurning a zero

they must have thought i cheated:rolleyes:
im begining to dislike mods

edit:

well this game got my interest back in the old il2 im now on a newbbe server feeling like an ace

[Bobb4]

OT There is no gore. But you are still simulating the murder of another human being.

As for a 109 turning inside a Spit 2, well that depends on the pilot you are flying against.
I have shot down a 109 flying straight and true. The pilot was either engrossed in checking his instruments or had very poor SA.
I have shot down a Spit in a G50... Again it all depends on the pilot you are flying against. How good he is, how much he has flown. Is he simply testing the plane.
Many times I have taken off without giving a damn about the enemy. I am just testing how soon the engine overheats or a certain prop-pitch setting.
Honestly I only fly online so I have been shot down a lot even by AI...
The basic point is the 109 is not a turn fighter and no amount of claiming it is will change that. B&Z is what it is good at. Getting a kill turnfighting in a 109 is just luck. Because a pilot who knows his plane will kill you. It is that simple. That does not mean I doubt you have done it, I just say be greatful but do not make a habit out of it. You will die more often than you succeed. ;)

[trumps]

Mummy make the strange man stop.. Please...!

[Hatch]

omg this guy is hilarious xD

I want some of the stuff or smoking.

NOW

Mummy make the strange man stop.. Please...!


You guys do realise we're just as weird as he is, right?

Playing at being WW2 pilots behind our monitors.
In the eyes of "normal" people we're all a bit well strange.

Difference being he's aware of that.

[Trooper117]

'You're all f@ckIng mad I tells ya'..

[raaaid]

outturnning a galdiator in a i185:) online

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N43ua-OzpZ4&feature=player_embedded

edit:

socialitation is healty and mmost laugh with me

anyone from the ubizoo knows there im almost never even slighlty attacked, amazinhg, however nonsense i say

i understand people who dont know me wonder if im authentic

edit:

this is a wwii simulator people should ponder what would have been of people like me had the nazis won the war

plz dont critize freedom

[Sternjaeger]

raaaid, my post has mysteriously disappeared (yet again :rolleyes: ) , but all I can suggest man is that you reconsider your choices and maybe stop playing with this sim. Many people here make fun of you, but I honestly believe that you need to really make a reality check, and stay off this thingie for a bit, seriously..

[nearmiss]

thanks but i dont do drygs

think there can be kids around who want tobe like me when adults :)

oh can you believe i just got kicked from rcaf for outurning a zero

they must have thought i cheated:rolleyes:
im begining to dislike mods

edit:

well this game got my interest back in the old il2 im now on a newbbe server feeling like an ace

For all the jibberish you post... be carefull you don't cross the line, which usually happens. Then the old bad mods will scrape you off the forum, when you don't obey the forum rules.

So far mods have received numerous complaints about your postings, you must remember this is a community forums. At some point, if you don't make an effort to get along with other members reported postings will go against you.

[raaaid]

yes i try to keep on topic( talk about the game) and never be rude however much im attacked

but some would report a post just by saying a 109 can out turn a spit :)

check that vid i out turn a gladiator online :) with a 1 i 185

the trick is turning going up and handle better energy :)

edit:

i see bnz dislike kill un unaware prey

bnzers put 2km tags intead of 5km to favour them in old il2

this game favours dogfight being so difficult to shoot

so i can get an adrenaline boost turning with a 109

but will it get ruined cause nay sayrs say a 109 cant out turn a spit?

people try to inlfunce the game into their way

so do i

ill try to behave but i bet this comment is disliked by some :(

i like a joust just of circlse where superior forces decide whos right bnz doesnt do that tnb does :)

[Strike]

Dude, IMHO the key to dogfighting is being a good improviser, knowing your plane, patience and if you're lucky, knowing the enemy's plane, which is a luxury for us simmers that real WWII vets didn't have mostly.

I never fly textbook basic fighting manouvers, although I know pretty much all of them. I like to combine them etc, but when flying full real, altitude and energy is a safe card. If it were you raaaid in 1940, in real life, in that 109 of yours, I bet you'd favour the "safe" card over turnfighting a spit down low. It's very very VERY hard to fly a simulation game and simulate real warfare because players don't "fear" for their lives. It has no consequences to be shot down. You don't have a personal relationship to your mates and if you do, they'll respawn after a few seconds. The "worst thing" that could happen is that you have to RTB to wait for your buddy to take off again.

When I was young I read for a school project an autobiography by Roald Dahl (the guy who wrote charlie and the chocolate factory and other famous books). The book was called "going solo" and covers the part of his life before, during and a little after the war where he flew Gladiators and Hurricanes in the mediterranean. He has some vivid memories of both crashes, kills and other stuff that really makes the book quite exciting. Stuff like fellow pilots discussing the "mine" rounds that would set the fuel tank on fire and burn you alive. I thought the book was good, and held some other interesting surprises.

By the way, the only gore in IL-2 ClOD is visually seeing the pilot "slip forward" as to indicate he's kicked the bucket :P Or died from lead-poisoning. In 1946 they had the highgore=1 or whatever it was called and it showed blood on a few selected planes. It was heavily overdone most of the time and quite "mspaint" like :p In CloD it brings up ESRB issues and people like you wouldn't be able to play it that way, and kids would have their mothers to go to the store to buy it for them.

I'm pretty sure it'll take a LOOOONG time even after SDK release to see any real blood ingame. I think it's fine as it is, but I'd like to see some "bleed-out" features or "loss of conciousness" effects. Also perhaps make the pilot a lot less resistant to G forces. But that may again represent a human suffering in pain and elevate the age-limit.

So, short answer, no guts, no worries.

[BigPickle]

I actually want gore, someone make a gore mod, i wanna see sausages hangin out of a cockpit after i rake it with 303 :)

[bongodriver]

yes i try to keep on topic( talk about the game) and never be rude however much im attacked

but some would report a post just by saying a 109 can out turn a spit :)

check that vid i out turn a gladiator online :) with a 1 i 185

the trick is turning going up and handle better energy :)

edit:

i see bnz dislike kill un unaware prey

bnzers put 2km tags intead of 5km to favour them in old il2

this game favours dogfight being so difficult to shoot

so i can get an adrenaline boost turning with a 109

but will it get ruined cause nay sayrs say a 109 cant out turn a spit?

people try to inlfunce the game into their way

so do i

ill try to behave but i bet this comment is disliked by some :(

i like a joust just of circlse where superior forces decide whos right bnz doesnt do that tnb does :)


Why are you so obsessed with the 109 out turning a spit thing anyway.........nobody denies it can be done in the game by a human against AI or a lesser human, but the reality was that a spit could out turn a 109, it was one of the only major advantages the spit had.....but you seem to wan't to poke at this particular topic in order to get a reaction.......you are an attention seeker and like a bit of controversy.

[raaaid]

because i have the feeling thought both planes are equal turners peoples gonna complain if an spit deosnt out turn a 109 in a dime

for me the game is boring if its bnz against tnb

id like planes so close in performance its up to the pilot as the game manual says

who flies the 109 in the old il2 online?

i dont want more of the same so i express my opinion

[bongodriver]

because i have the feeling thought both planes are equal turners peoples gonna complain if an spit deosnt out turn a 109 in a dime

for me the game is boring if its bnz against tnb

id like planes so close in performance its up to the pilot as the game manual says

who flies the 109 in the old il2 online?

Where exactly does BnZ apply in this topic? why does the idea of a spit out turning a 109 = BnZ in your mind?

if you want equal performance then use equal aircraft i.e. 109 vs 109 or spit vs spit, the fact of the matter is different aircraft perform differently as do pilots.

[raaaid]

yes but thats something promised in the manual, planes so close in performance is up to the pilot

i dont want the comunity to impose the idea that the 109 was a worse turner

if you research most agree its imposible to know which was really the better turner since it was pilto dependant

if this flollows il2 spits will use tnb and 109s bnz

all i ask is that the 109 turn as well as the spits because if not for me the game is boring

im not sure about the flight model yet, some times i out turn spits others they out turn me

[bongodriver]

Well I want it to be accurate....that means the spit has an edge on turning ability.

this would mean:

spit+good pilot vs 109+good pilot = spit out turns 109
spit+bad pilot vs 109+bad pilot = spit out turns 109
spit+bad pilot vs 109+good pilot = 109 out turns spit ....etc etc


you need to remove your rose tinted glasses and realise that in war there was no room for chivalry, opposing forces would play on their own strengths and exploit the oppositions weaknesses to make life easier, why would anybody risk their life by picking a even fight, the point was to kill the enemy and get the hell out, that is also what 'most' people are trying to recreate in simulations, why don't you try to create your own online group who like to play in your own style......'raaaids magic pixie squadron'.....we like to fly in circles and not shoot because it's all about the 'beauty of the moment' :confused:

[Strike]

I think aerial chivalry mostly died somewhere around 1918

[Sternjaeger]

I think aerial chivalry mostly died somewhere around 1918

uhm, pretty much, it became the exception in WW2, surely not the rule..

[raaaid]

but this is a game so no reason for no chivalry :)

also i think its much mre fun formate with the foe than shooting him down :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-St--8wyXs

[Bobb4]

but this is a game so no reason for no chivalry :)

also i think its much mre fun formate with the foe than shooting him down :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-St--8wyXs

We have gone from gore to turn-rate and now we are stuck on chivalry?
Seriously????
This is not FACEBOOK :rolleyes:

[Vengeanze]

We have gone from gore to turn-rate and now we are stuck on chivalry?
Seriously????
This is not FACEBOOK :rolleyes:
Hehe.