View Full Version : i wonder about the long term destiny of flight sims
raaaid
06-01-2011, 02:26 PM
people have spent some almost a thousand to play this game when they could play this game for less money with their kids :)
hey devs dont worry soft devs still needed for the effects ;)
the future seems to be half real half rendered
http://www.youtube.com/user/ARdrone?v=BfZguUt9ges&feature=pyv&ad=12305166818&kw=flight
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that thing costs 300 bugs
like a medium graphic card and the collectors edition
i really would like to have one of this and explore the unexplored place of the cities with it
probably if you lose connection it reminds its way and returns to origin
somone could even rent them to be flon via internent from the other side of the world :)
you could have a businness to rent them to be flown on different beautifull locations online
i wouldnt even want to dogfight just explore beatifull places of the world with that thing :)
edit:
if that thing is remote controlled through a phone could you have connection in the whole country
omg imgetting excitedand thinking on saving money
samich
06-01-2011, 02:37 PM
what is this i dont even...
raaaid
06-01-2011, 02:43 PM
well im wondering if its not too good as to be really a joke:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ARdrone?v=BfZguUt9ges&feature=pyv&ad=12305166818&kw=flight#p/f/13/SIb_wOtr2XE
bongodriver
06-01-2011, 02:52 PM
Raaaid......do you ever leave the house?
try it....there is enough wonder in the real world to keep even you occupied for a lifetime.
Gamekeeper
06-01-2011, 02:58 PM
The first video is augmented reality, the second is an April fools hoax, why even post these here anyway?
Btw you should proof read your posts when off medication or ask your nurse to do it for you.
raaaid
06-01-2011, 03:04 PM
oh i was wondering if these things will finally kill the genre
ATAG_Dutch
06-01-2011, 03:09 PM
oh i was wondering if these things will finally kill the genre
Nope.
raaaid
06-01-2011, 03:13 PM
but if you want to have a real dogfight theres no more real than this
you cant complain here of the flight model
though i wouldnt buy it yet the camera has less fps than clod :)
waiting for improved versions
edit:
well if you want the future of the genre granted make a nice comunity being nice to people like im always am even though constantly put down by those who feel good making others feel bad
in fact the ubzoo its been so nice people i lasted 9 years only banned once for posting ot
not expecting any different here
oh and about my being crazy i wont deny it but thats a plus, an adavantage to understand the quantum bizarre real wolrd so thanks for the compliment
My My ....Quite entertaining
Ze-Jamz
06-01-2011, 03:41 PM
Erm...
raaaid
06-01-2011, 03:45 PM
all right what would you prefer dogfight with this toy from your pc at home from someone who rents this devices on exotic locations
or dogfight clod online?
i cant be the only one who sees the potential of this toy
these are the future online cams on different locations
have you ever used remotely onlinea cam you could rotate?
well this is next :)
bongodriver
06-01-2011, 05:05 PM
You are quite right raaaid.....I suggest you abandon PC flight sims and buy yourself one of those things and venture into a new beginning...well miss you.
Doc_uk
06-01-2011, 05:12 PM
Huh?:confused:
raaaid
06-01-2011, 05:28 PM
yeah well i think ill take a vacation from this forum since im not playing the game so cant discuss anything since ot is not allowed
one thing is giving your positive energy to a forum but another very different taking the negativity from most
have you noticed though this is an interesting topic 90% of people have been slightly rude
bongodriver
06-01-2011, 07:10 PM
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/forumdisplay.php?f=117
I have a feeling that OT will be fine in this forum.......or is it too obvious?
raaaid
06-01-2011, 07:12 PM
OH THAnks ill hang around there wait waiting for the definite patch :):-)
Strike
06-01-2011, 07:15 PM
Listen Raaaid, I know your cause:
I fly a lot of RC planes, and I've imagined with the recent FPV (First Persion View) cameras that work a little like track IR with live-video feed, you could carry out some cool dogfights.
I've thought of the ability to fit RC planes with metal BB guns or .22 ammunition and have a go at eachother but:
RC planes are expensive already, and constantly rebuilding them would cost a lot of money and time.
Also, you would have to set up a huge indoor bullet-proof hangar to have these fights in, since noone would want to stand anywhere near an RC-dogfight that fires real ammunition. It's a reason they have "robot-fights" in cages.
RC planes are often way more unstable, quicker and manouverable, but most importantly, smaller. So hitting anything would be near-impossible.
The idea is cool, but really I'd spend my bucks on a simulator where there's always a "refly" button than the alternative of collecting your burning wreck, salvaging what you can and spend loads of hours and $$$ on repairing it, maybe to have it shot down in less than 5 minutes.
Don't you agree?
I have more bets on a "Matrix" type simulator, where you can sedate your body somehow and link your brain to a "server" where you interact much like in a dream that you can control. You could actually enter a computer-generated spitfire, start it like in real life and go flying. Feel the engine vibrate, the wind blowing and smell stuff as if you were there.
However, like nightmares, you can wake up cold and sweating with a high heartrate. So some ways, experiencing being shot down or PK'd in a world that simulates the real thing... I'm a bit sceptical to that.
Anyways, keep fantasising ;)
raaaid
06-01-2011, 07:32 PM
oh god thankls the first person who takes me seriously
i knew there would be some kid here like me who liked those vids
dont forget to go to ot section im making a tread on art :)
Krt_Bong
06-02-2011, 05:24 PM
Listen Raaaid, I know your cause:
I fly a lot of RC planes, and I've imagined with the recent FPV (First Persion View) cameras that work a little like track IR with live-video feed, you could carry out some cool dogfights.
I've thought of the ability to fit RC planes with metal BB guns or .22 ammunition and have a go at eachother but:
RC planes are expensive already, and constantly rebuilding them would cost a lot of money and time.
Also, you would have to set up a huge indoor bullet-proof hangar to have these fights in, since noone would want to stand anywhere near an RC-dogfight that fires real ammunition. It's a reason they have "robot-fights" in cages.
RC planes are often way more unstable, quicker and manouverable, but most importantly, smaller. So hitting anything would be near-impossible.
The idea is cool, but really I'd spend my bucks on a simulator where there's always a "refly" button than the alternative of collecting your burning wreck, salvaging what you can and spend loads of hours and $$$ on repairing it, maybe to have it shot down in less than 5 minutes.
Don't you agree?
I have more bets on a "Matrix" type simulator, where you can sedate your body somehow and link your brain to a "server" where you interact much like in a dream that you can control. You could actually enter a computer-generated spitfire, start it like in real life and go flying. Feel the engine vibrate, the wind blowing and smell stuff as if you were there.
However, like nightmares, you can wake up cold and sweating with a high heartrate. So some ways, experiencing being shot down or PK'd in a world that simulates the real thing... I'm a bit sceptical to that.
Anyways, keep fantasising ;)
Paintball maybe, live ammo never..
..for that you need to join the Air Force
Strike
06-02-2011, 07:21 PM
Paintball maybe, live ammo never..
..for that you need to join the Air Force
That's why I'm in the airforce ;)
raaaid
06-02-2011, 07:35 PM
i said it in the other thread most pilots are a litle crzay ;)
myself i flew to recover from the bike adiction aftyer an accident paraglide how crazy you got to be to do that
i get the high heart beat with this game identical to the bike, and ten years later this game still makes my heart beat fast when i fight online :)
edit:
according my high school tests i have aptitudes to be a militar or a cop who would say it
mybe thats why i fit well in the comunity with so many real militars and wannabe militars :)
White Owl
06-03-2011, 01:02 AM
Okay, BBs or paintball or other kinds of real projectiles could be a big problem, that's true...
How about laser tag? How hard would it be to mount that kind of system on some RC planes?
I read an article once that described people dogfighting RC planes. They attached long paper streamers to both planes, and the object of the game was to cut the other guy's streamer with your wing. That sounds like fun.
Herbs107
06-03-2011, 01:32 AM
We do RC WW1 combat once a year, its expensive due to midairs and crashes. We try to cut their streamer using our props. Here are some pics...
raaaid
06-03-2011, 01:37 AM
and why dont you ad it a camera so its 1st person?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlJoxh0541o
wow people who likes to fly are special pay attention to the music
edit:
oh so propellers are almost invisible after all ;)
edit:
watching the video i was wondering:
the smaller the plane the better turner the faster for less drag
did they make any miniplane in wwii? that could have been pretty effective as a fighter :)
Herbs107
06-03-2011, 02:03 AM
Its just to expensive, we can put small vid/cameras on the planes and get combat footage, which makes you dizzy just looking at it. FPV is to expensive to set up, and i think would make it to hard to fly. Plus in a dogfight there is usually 18 aircarft airborne at once, you need to have your wits about you, not your head buried behind a dark set of goggles..
raaaid
06-03-2011, 02:23 AM
you gotta wonder
they could sell a remote controled plane like that control via cell phone at whatever distance for less than a hundred bugs
man this is not capitalism at all when such thing is not in the market
Tiger27
06-03-2011, 02:28 AM
and why dont you ad it a camera so its 1st person?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlJoxh0541o
wow people who likes to fly are special pay attention to the music
edit:
oh so propellers are almost invisible after all ;)
edit:
watching the video i was wondering:
the smaller the plane the better turner the faster for less drag
did they make any miniplane in wwii? that could have been pretty effective as a fighter :)
Privacy laws make these illegal in some countries, as far as I know Australia is one of them.
SG1_Lud
06-03-2011, 07:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aIq8r4-m3c
Positronic
06-03-2011, 07:51 AM
I seen some movie when I was kid, and they had rc's planes that shot darts.
Other than that I want to put a camera on my rc rock crawler and drive it from big flatscreen in the lounge
602Sqn.McLean
06-03-2011, 07:51 AM
Privacy laws make these illegal in some countries, as far as I know Australia is one of them.
Depends on the state. New South Wales has the Surveillance Act, which does not allow any person to use a device to look into someone's house or yard. You would have to show some sort of 'mens rea' for the offence to be valid, however I can see massive problems if someone decided to report an incident to police. I wouldn't charge someone for it if they were just flying around but I can imagine a few people using the toy for other purposes.
Most people would not be using the device for a criminal purpose but I can see some problems if people started putting the myriad of things seen in yards and in homes on Facebook, You Tube etc.
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