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Robin2k7
05-29-2011, 08:28 AM
after a few month,s waiting , trying AL kind of different settings , programme.s like Radeon pro i give up .

what i do is this ..every month i look fore new patched and changes but i am not gonna try to let this game run smooth anymore .

those micro stutters are so annoying , the sound is horrible and the ground look like it is painted by a bad painter .

and no i am not gonna uninstall the game .

i still hope that there come,s a moment that i start the game and say to my self yesss that is were i was waiting fore .

Salute

1.JaVA_Picard

Qpassa
05-29-2011, 08:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Kwiatek
05-29-2011, 08:42 AM
Java you could still play in IL2 UP 3.0 or ROF wating a few months when COD would be playable and bug free.

Where are these old times when i first install IL2 game and i can't stop to play it? I got COD from about 2 months and i played it maby 10 times lol.

Qpassa
05-29-2011, 08:44 AM
You shouldnt have that micro stutters , where do you play?
Try at MP islands.
I have a worse PC than you i7 920 and 5870 and no stutters in these maps

JG52Krupi
05-29-2011, 09:38 AM
after a few month,s waiting , trying AL kind of different settings , programme.s like Radeon pro i give up .

what i do is this ..every month i look fore new patched and changes but i am not gonna try to let this game run smooth anymore .

those micro stutters are so annoying , the sound is horrible and the ground look like it is painted by a bad painter .

and no i am not gonna uninstall the game .

i still hope that there come,s a moment that i start the game and say to my self yesss that is were i was waiting fore .

Salute

1.JaVA_Picard

I have a 5970 as well and thats what is causing all the problems at the moment the team are working on crossfire as we speak I am sure.

In a few week this game will be bug free I am sure.

Kwiatek
05-29-2011, 10:17 AM
I got win XP 32 bit, 4 GB ramm, Quad Core @ 3.2 GHz and GTX 285 and i cant play multi without game crashes which also happend very often in offilne.

Tiger27
05-29-2011, 10:35 AM
I got win XP 32 bit, 4 GB ramm, Quad Core @ 3.2 GHz and GTX 285 and i cant play multi without game crashes which also happend very often in offilne.

This game doesn't like XP, I gave up and went to win7 x64 it made the game stable, I was getting similar issues as you.

klem
05-29-2011, 11:03 AM
after a few month,s waiting , trying AL kind of different settings , programme.s like Radeon pro i give up .

what i do is this ..every month i look fore new patched and changes but i am not gonna try to let this game run smooth anymore .

those micro stutters are so annoying , the sound is horrible and the ground look like it is painted by a bad painter .

and no i am not gonna uninstall the game .

i still hope that there come,s a moment that i start the game and say to my self yesss that is were i was waiting fore .

Salute

1.JaVA_Picard

Maybe a dumb question but do you have the latest Steam update (about a week ago)?

Your setup is very similar to mine except you have a Radeon 5970 instead of my GTX570. I see Krupi's comment about 5970 but you are only unning one card aren't you?

You could try deleting all the .ini files (where settings may have been damaged, Luthier's comment not mine), Validate CoD in Steam and run it once to re-create the .ini's. It means starting again with the in-game setup but at least you know you have a clean start, especially if you installed any beta patches.

Delete all ini's in the CoD folder, the \Steam\userdata\79775862(??)\63950(??)\remote\ folder and your \My Document\1C Soft Club\CoD\ folder. I backed up the originals in case anything went horribly wrong - but it didn't.

JG52Krupi
05-29-2011, 11:09 AM
Your setup is very similar to mine except you have a Radeon 5970 instead of my GTX570. I see Krupi's comment about 5970 but you are only unning one card aren't you?

The 5970 is a dual chip card and due to this it is seen as an Xfire card, if I were to get a 5870 or 6970 then I am sure I would have better fps.

That said the 5970 can still punch above the 6XXX and 5XX cards, the only cards faster than it atm are the 6990 and the 590 which are both dual chip as well. The team just need to sort Xfire out.

I am surprised you are having problems though, I have started testing the Radeon Pro with the Lost Planet Xfire setup and I am getting ~50fps above land.

335th_GRAthos
05-29-2011, 12:34 PM
Sad to hear this Pickard, sometimes I admit I feel the same, especially when I see what IL2FB newest packs (UltraPacks) can do...

Stutters! :-O
This post may help you:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20228

~S~

the Dutchman
05-29-2011, 12:40 PM
The big Q is;
Did Luthier gave up?
It's awfully quiet......................:(

Robin2k7
05-29-2011, 12:47 PM
You could try deleting all the .ini files (where settings may have been damaged, Luthier's comment not mine), Validate CoD in Steam and run it once to re-create the .ini's. It means starting again with the in-game setup but at least you know you have a clean start, especially if you installed any beta patches.

Delete all ini's in the CoD folder, the \Steam\userdata\79775862(??)\63950(??)\remote\ folder and your \My Document\1C Soft Club\CoD\ folder. I backed up the originals in case anything went horribly wrong - but it didn't.[/QUOTE]

i can give this a try ....:grin:

Ze-Jamz
05-29-2011, 01:12 PM
Think we have all learnt that it it doesnt matter what setup you have.

What works for someone doesnt work for another and it might be the smallest piece of hardware difference that is porking it..

My system is the same apart from i upgraded gfx Card from 5770 > 6950 and i made around 30% improvement in FPS

I also installed better and more RAM but this hasnt made any difference on benchmarks etc so i doubt it made any difference to this game,,,funny how RAM works

4 Gig of crucial 1333mhz RAM in Dual channel made more then 8Gig G-Skill 1600mhz downclocked to 1333mhz (mobo spec) in Dual

Hope you get it sorted soon OR they release a patch that allows this game to be run on what their recommended spec were originally

Tree_UK
05-29-2011, 02:07 PM
The big Q is;
Did Luthier gave up?
It's awfully quiet......................:(

Luthier has not given up mate, The american release has been put back, its bought the dev team sometime to try and get this game bug free before release, they have done a great job in getting this game up and running in the short space of time since release (it was effectively a dead duck on release). A bit more fine tuning with performance and graphic glitches will see the Dev's move on to sorting out the bugs and maybe introducing DX11 though that maybe a little too optimistic. :grin:

klem
05-29-2011, 02:24 PM
The 5970 is a dual chip card and due to this it is seen as an Xfire card, if I were to get a 5870 or 6970 then I am sure I would have better fps.

That said the 5970 can still punch above the 6XXX and 5XX cards, the only cards faster than it atm are the 6990 and the 590 which are both dual chip as well. The team just need to sort Xfire out.

I am surprised you are having problems though, I have started testing the Radeon Pro with the Lost Planet Xfire setup and I am getting ~50fps above land.

Sorry, I had forgotten that. Back to the Xfire solution when it comes :(

I didn't have problems with Video, mine is the disappearing sounds but the implication from Luthier was that editing the .ini's could lead to problems and (at the time) I couldn't think why you would have a video problem. I do now :)

Insuber
05-29-2011, 02:26 PM
This time I'm with Tree (and remember that Tree is always right :D) We are close to it. Let the devs some weeks to solve the bigger bugs (or the big buggers? :)) then they can work on the 50% of game features still disabled, on the contents and playability, on FM and CEM, on new theaters ... For the time being for me it will be a mix of online ClOD and UP 3.0. Today's rigs eat up the old 1946 as peanuts ... :)


Cheers,
Insuber

LLv26_Mikko
05-29-2011, 03:20 PM
after a few month,s waiting , trying AL kind of different settings , programme.s like Radeon pro i give up .

what i do is this ..every month i look fore new patched and changes but i am not gonna try to let this game run smooth anymore .

those micro stutters are so annoying , the sound is horrible and the ground look like it is painted by a bad painter .

and no i am not gonna uninstall the game .

i still hope that there come,s a moment that i start the game and say to my self yesss that is were i was waiting fore .

Salute

1.JaVA_Picard

Only annoying bug that i have is the SOUND bug. I have allmost no micro stutters and FPS avg is around 45 setting max all but building detail medium.

Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz
Geforce GTX560 Ti 2GB GDDR5
8GB DDR31600MHz
ASUSP8P67

addman
05-29-2011, 03:56 PM
As someone mentioned before, play IL-2 or something else instead in the meantime. I play World of tanks right now an boy is that game addictive, both recommend and warn about it :). Luthier is probably hard at work for the US release, be patient.

Jaws2002
05-29-2011, 05:10 PM
after a few month,s waiting , trying AL kind of different settings , programme.s like Radeon pro i give up .

what i do is this ..every month i look fore new patched and changes but i am not gonna try to let this game run smooth anymore .

those micro stutters are so annoying , the sound is horrible and the ground look like it is painted by a bad painter .

and no i am not gonna uninstall the game .

i still hope that there come,s a moment that i start the game and say to my self yesss that is were i was waiting fore .

Salute

1.JaVA_Picard

Agree with you.
There are a lot of things that need fixing and if you keep trying too hard right now, you'll just loose patience with this game. They'll get it fixed and in the mean time you can enjoy other games that run butter smooth on a system like yours.
You can give it another try later when it's fixed.

Robin2k7
05-29-2011, 05:20 PM
Agree with you.
There are a lot of things that need fixing and if you keep trying too hard right now, you'll just loose patience with this game. They'll get it fixed and in the mean time you can enjoy other games that run butter smooth on a system like yours.
You can give it another try later when it's fixed.

exactly Jaws and that is what i am going to do .
i am pretty sure that this game is released to soon .

Jaws2002
05-29-2011, 05:31 PM
I just updated my PC this week and I installed and tried few other games before COD.
Black Death track gives me average around 47 FPS with minimum of 15 with all things maxed out, but at this point, the difference with other games is stagering.:(
There are a lot of small isues that don't make playing COD an enjoying experience right now even on solid systems.:(

Widowmaker214
05-29-2011, 06:13 PM
Flight sims have always been harder on hardware than anything else.

Im running dual 590s (quad SLI) .. most games I play are pegged at 60 (fraps limit with V sync)..

But even with one video core on CLOD, Im still getting acceptable frame rates with no stutters. (30 to 50... ground/building stuff on med, aircraft stuff on HIGH)
(Rise of Flight, with graphics turned down, runs about 45fps on a single core.. crazy it wont support SLI)

If you want eye candy in a flight sim, you've got to shell out for the hardware.
Old IL2 was the same way. My friends and I updated our rigs several times to keep things running on high.

If your hardware aint up to snuff.. then drop your settings significantly.

A lot of bugs left to squash.. yep. specially with some FMB stuff.. roads..column action... But Im happy.
rather be flying and learning the new stuff.. the aircraft handling, new engine management, the scripting... etc than sitting on my hands waiting.

Ikarus
05-29-2011, 06:20 PM
where are these old times when i first install il2 game and i can't stop to play it? I got cod from about 2 months and i played it maby 10 times lol.

+1000

Robin2k7
05-29-2011, 06:41 PM
[QUOTE=Widowmaker214;290598]Flight sims have always been harder on hardware than anything else.

Im running dual 590s (quad SLI) .. most games I play are pegged at 60 (fraps limit with V sync)..


If you want eye candy in a flight sim, you've got to shell out for the hardware.
Old IL2 was the same way. My friends and I updated our rigs several times to keep things running on high.

If your hardware ain't up to snuff..

well it think my hardware will do the job , but i refuse to put everything on low and even than it doesn't run like it should be !!

timholt
05-31-2011, 08:47 AM
Well I am obviously a masochist I come back to this every few days for one or 2 crashes, some of which require a computer reboot as the screen just blacks out and locks up.
So I bit the bullet and selected medium for most settings.
Same old same old, clunky over land and not at all enjoyable to play. Sigh, back to RoF again.

mayestdo
05-31-2011, 10:23 AM
after a few month,s waiting , trying AL kind of different settings , programme.s like Radeon pro i give up .

what i do is this ..every month i look fore new patched and changes but i am not gonna try to let this game run smooth anymore .

those micro stutters are so annoying , the sound is horrible and the ground look like it is painted by a bad painter .

and no i am not gonna uninstall the game .

i still hope that there come,s a moment that i start the game and say to my self yesss that is were i was waiting fore .

Salute

1.JaVA_Picard

I gave up long ago :( Better things to do in life than hopelessly expecting a pactch which will fix this sim

Ivan Fooker
05-31-2011, 10:41 AM
I can absolute understand the thread starter.
All my 13 squadron m8s bought the game, felt cheated, 3 got banned in the forums coz they said what their frustration was from,waited for patches, saw no real development to an enjoyable game, quit playing the game.
Waiting fot things to happen.
Almost half of them dont bet a penny on the russian devs to be able to rescue the engine.
I am personally in a conflict, sometimes i really can enjoy flying but in general i am fed up after 30mins.
My personal guess, i threw the money for the game out of the window, but i ll be happy when i would be wrong sometime.

LoBiSoMeM
05-31-2011, 11:09 AM
I got win XP 32 bit, 4 GB ramm, Quad Core @ 3.2 GHz and GTX 285 and i cant play multi without game crashes which also happend very often in offilne.

You really have a quad, 4 GB RAM, and run XP 32 and not W7 64?

And worse: runs IL-2: CloD, one heavy CPU title, with devs trying to extract better performance of multicore CPUs... XP 32 can't compare to W7 in therms of multicorecores usage.

Upgrade your system OS and try again. The time of "XP is better for games and W7 is just a resource hog" is gone... I run Ok CloD now in a system with weak CPU/GPU than yours...

robtek
05-31-2011, 11:12 AM
There is really no reason to give up, except if one is really impatient or from the " instant gratification generation"!
This sim was in a really sad state when published!
But look, it is getting better and better!
When your at the bottom every way is up!!!
Just play something relaxing, like WoT, 'til this sim is fixed.
Me, i already have fun with it as it is now, except for this reallly annoying sound bug.

LoBiSoMeM
05-31-2011, 11:13 AM
Flight sims have always been harder on hardware than anything else.

But even with one video core on CLOD, Im still getting acceptable frame rates with no stutters. (30 to 50... ground/building stuff on med, aircraft stuff on HIGH)
(Rise of Flight, with graphics turned down, runs about 45fps on a single core.. crazy it wont support SLI)

If you want eye candy in a flight sim, you've got to shell out for the hardware.
Old IL2 was the same way. My friends and I updated our rigs several times to keep things running on high.

If your hardware aint up to snuff.. then drop your settings significantly.

A lot of bugs left to squash.. yep. specially with some FMB stuff.. roads..column action... But Im happy.
rather be flying and learning the new stuff.. the aircraft handling, new engine management, the scripting... etc than sitting on my hands waiting.

+1

Vengeanze
05-31-2011, 12:05 PM
During the wait I keep on practicing my TO and landings and learning to know the planes solo offline.
Then when we mp is fixed and Luthier patch that will give me double the frames is released I'll be a friggin killing machine...or will atleast know how to get to the fight in an orderly fashion. :-D

Kwiatek
05-31-2011, 03:07 PM
You really have a quad, 4 GB RAM, and run XP 32 and not W7 64?

And worse: runs IL-2: CloD, one heavy CPU title, with devs trying to extract better performance of multicore CPUs... XP 32 can't compare to W7 in therms of multicorecores usage.

Upgrade your system OS and try again. The time of "XP is better for games and W7 is just a resource hog" is gone... I run Ok CloD now in a system with weak CPU/GPU than yours...

Yes really. I tried Win7 with my old Core 2 Duo with the same rest configuarion and definitly Win XP 32 works for me better then Win7. The only game where Win7 works better is COD probably beacause of DX10.

In other games like old IL2 or ROF Win XP work for me better.

Thats why i stay with XP for now.

Robin2k7
05-31-2011, 03:11 PM
When your at the bottom every way is up!!!
.[/QUOTE]



can you imagine when you purchase a car and it doesn't perform at all the salesman of that car says ...Look Robin the car it not good at all but when your at the bottom every way is up ...

i probably hit the man in his face hahaha !!!

and you now what it is not only the micro stutters issue , it just don't feel right .

robtek
05-31-2011, 03:36 PM
The big difference is, if you cant use your car it is a hindrance, if you cant use CloD it is only inconvenient.

BigC208
05-31-2011, 04:43 PM
When your at the bottom every way is up!!!
.



can you imagine when you purchase a car and it doesn't perform at all the salesman of that car says ...Look Robin the car it not good at all but when your at the bottom every way is up ...

i probably hit the man in his face hahaha !!!

and you now what it is not only the micro stutters issue , it just don't feel right .[/QUOTE]

You're right the game is not finnished. Unless you we're one of the Russians who bought it at release, you knew you were buying an unfinnished product.
You knew and bought it anyway. Now you have to be patient. I got the Russian version and knew it was porked. I'll get the US version when it gets released. I'm unhappy about a bunch of things, Steam, it being porked etc etc. There just is not anything else out there with the potential Il2 CoD has. Patience is a virtue. Best of all is I can keep pushing back buying a new computer untill the program is out of Beta. Heck it's summer! I bought a Nikon D7000 and I'm going to enjoy going outside. Come winter the virtual skies over Dover will still be there and in better shape than today.

LoBiSoMeM
05-31-2011, 05:38 PM
Yes really. I tried Win7 with my old Core 2 Duo with the same rest configuarion and definitly Win XP 32 works for me better then Win7. The only game where Win7 works better is COD probably beacause of DX10.

In other games like old IL2 or ROF Win XP work for me better.

Thats why i stay with XP for now.

Because of DX10 and multicore better suport. In DCS series W7 kicks XP in performance too. And if we think that some have headtracking apps and a lot of things running background, I can't see why don't upgrade now to W7 x64. The new titles that REALLY uses multicore CPU will be glad.

Give it a try! IL2 1946 runs with maximum performance in 1/2 core here, isn't benchmark anymore ;)

Strike
05-31-2011, 06:05 PM
I have to say, that from an economic perspective, the comparison to buying a new car is major bogus.

First of all, and most importantly, a car is something that constantly looses value. If you so much as sit in a new car, it practically looses value. After a year, you can probably remove about 12000Euros of value from it.

Secondly, a car is nowhere as cheap as a computer game. It's simply not worth getting that worked up over if you're not 100% satisfied, especially WHEN:

The game can only get better, and run better with time..

Find a car that does that (mechanically speaking, while some exclusive cars age like wine, most cars age like milk)

Kwiatek
05-31-2011, 06:11 PM
Because of DX10 and multicore better suport. In DCS series W7 kicks XP in performance too. And if we think that some have headtracking apps and a lot of things running background, I can't see why don't upgrade now to W7 x64. The new titles that REALLY uses multicore CPU will be glad.

Give it a try! IL2 1946 runs with maximum performance in 1/2 core here, isn't benchmark anymore ;)

But ROF use mulitcore in my XP 32 very good :)

For now i dont see too much reason to change for Win7 for very buggy and unfinished game like CoD :/

Feuerfalke
05-31-2011, 06:13 PM
First of all, and most importantly, a car is something that constantly looses value. If you so much as sit in a new car, it practically looses value.

Ever tried selling a game that you activated on your account?

Secondly, a car is nowhere as cheap as a computer game. It's simply not worth getting that worked up over if you're not 100% satisfied, especially WHEN:...

If a car has a problem, it's also returned and fixed.

The game can only get better, and run better with time..

If roads, tires and fuel would be improved in the same speed computers are, you'd also get a lot faster the longer you have your car. That we have reached a point where transportation can't get much more efficient doesn't mean they were always this way.

Strike
05-31-2011, 07:03 PM
Ever tried selling a game that you activated on your account?.

No, but you can sell your account.

If a car has a problem, it's also returned and fixed.

Good thing is, the game has a problem, and incase you havn't noticed, it's being fixed, without having to return it.

If roads, tires and fuel would be improved in the same speed computers are, you'd also get a lot faster the longer you have your car. That we have reached a point where transportation can't get much more efficient doesn't mean they were always this way.

Well, I'd rather say your computer is your car in this case, that ages etc. The roads are your games, a road is being built here, and it's long and enjoyable. It's just full of "under construction" signs everywhere. If you fail to see those signs, you might be in for a nasty surprise.

Robin2k7
05-31-2011, 08:29 PM
wel fore now i be patient ....not more i can do !! :grin:

flyingblind
06-01-2011, 07:56 PM
I really don't get all this whinging and complaining about the game. Before it was released everyone was demanding to know when it would be out and begging to be allowed to be beta testers. Now it's out everyone is complaining it's not ready and how they object to being beta testers! By paying a relatively small amount for the privilege you have no doubt kept the project afloat and brought the time and resources for the first stage to be completed. It is not like you will be charged again for the finished game as updates arrive free and automatically. It was pretty obvious from the suddenly rushed and botched release that the game probably wasn't ready and all the preview videos and screen shots showed that game play wasn't smooth and fps were dire. Also the landscape and it's colour and the water etc were hardly closely guarded secrets. Plus there were enough doubts and misgivings aired on this forum before release.

I know there is still a lot to be desired but already the improvements have made the game vastly better. My system is only mid range and yet CloD runs perfectly smoothly and with fps mostly in the 40s and 50s and above. In fact CloD runs with the same or even slightly better fps than UP3 on my system. I am not sure about online sound issues as I have only been on line a few times but I didn't notice anything amiss. I have all my settings at absolute highest with everything turned on except for mirrors which are useless and cost a good 5 fps or so. I get no graphical issues and even the landscape colours are better.

I do not know why I am not getting the problems others seem to have. My system specs are below. I run the game on its own SATA drive with its own O/S. I use Game Booster. I use the Config files I am given without messing around with them and that is it.

Even with so much more to be done on the game, hopefully before US release, the game is still just so much better than the old IL2 series in one overiding aspect which is the impression it gives of 'really being there' which surely is what a sim is all about.

baronWastelan
06-01-2011, 08:06 PM
I do not know why I am not getting the problems others seem to have.

I would guess, because you know how to setup a PC properly.

grunge
06-02-2011, 11:29 AM
I have buyed it, because i have all old releases from day 1 of the original sturmovik. It's now part of the collection.

I tired it just with the latest update, and looking at the state it is, i really don't want to know how it was at the release :/

Sure nothing is perfect at a release, the old IL2 wasn't either, but it stayed playable and enjoyable for me all the time at my current rig at those days. With all patches it grew bigger and bigger, new planes, maps ect.

I really looking forward to CloD that it will get fixed, till tis point it will be just a sort of a tech demo. I don't want to complain, others did it also, but i just smiled as i heard the outside sound of the 109... The propellor is just animated from the sides, from other angles it's looking very odd to me. When i fire the machine guns, form the outside the effects are messed up, the muzzle flash appears just at particular angles or are completley missing. I'm not epilleptic i switched the option (my goodness...) off.

I enjoyed the clickeable cockpit very much, and the landside looked beautyful.
Patience is a key-word there, the potential is there also. Let's see, and hope that we'll smile about the complaining post one day, because the sim will be evolved to a product like Sturmo 46 was, and IS.
Go on Luthier and Team, do what you're have to, and thanks to Oleg for his magnificient work that i could fly the il2 seriesfrom day 1! :)

Robin2k7
06-03-2011, 12:55 AM
I really don't get all this whinging and complaining about the game.

Whining ? i complain what ever i want ....not because i like to complain but it would be nice to have a nice smooth running game .

if i don't like it i don't like it !!!

:grin:

raaaid
06-03-2011, 01:18 AM
yes but you know the reason why people makes this neagtive thread its their vengeance:

im not pleased so i try to sink you by influencing people not to buy the game

weather they know it or not thats the intention of the games crap threads

iceblink_luck
06-03-2011, 09:51 AM
I really don't get all this whinging and complaining about the game.

It's really simple, people 'whinge' as you put it, becasue they shelled out money on a borderline unplayable piece of software - which ultimately is detrimental to the genre as a whole - your POV is something like 0.01% of the general public's POV - most will buy, try it, find it's not all it's cracked up to be and ditch it and move swiftly onto something else - it really is that simple.

What's not 'to get'?

Personally, I bought it, tried it, and moved onto better things - I suspect that's what most do.

JG52Krupi
06-03-2011, 10:09 AM
It works perfectly fine now apart from over large cities and minor graphical glitches.

And what are they going to move onto buddy? The only game that comes close to clod is rise of flight.

klem
06-03-2011, 10:34 AM
It's really simple, people 'whinge' as you put it, becasue they shelled out money on a borderline unplayable piece of software - which ultimately is detrimental to the genre as a whole - your POV is something like 0.01% of the general public's POV - most will buy, try it, find it's not all it's cracked up to be and ditch it and move swiftly onto something else - it really is that simple.

What's not 'to get'?

Personally, I bought it, tried it, and moved onto better things - I suspect that's what most do.

You're probably right about 0.01% of the general public being willing to take it on, many of whom aren't even interested in flight sims. There's probably a reasonable if small % of those that are flight simmers willing to stick with it and perhaps 50% of the dedicated IL-2/Maddox camp that are if these forums are anything to go by (although I stand to be corrected looking at the number of players in Steam servers).

The various "will I"/"won't I" camps are all valid. You just take your pick.

1. "I like flight sims, here's a new one (CoD), I'll try it, it's crap out of the box, still weak in significant areas after the Steam patches, ditch it." (and perhaps never know what it might become except by word of mouth).

2. "Its what we've been waiting for, it's not right yet by a long way and I'll put it aside and watch the forums until its better.

3. "Its what we've been waiting for, it's not right yet by a long way but we've seen something like this before (if not as bad) and I'll crack on with it until it's fixed." (and play for many frustrating weeks as the patches leak out).

Fortunately there are enough of type 3 to keep feedback alive until better days. Those that have ditched it or set it aside are perfectly entitled to their choice but they will have the type 3's to thank for helping get it right sooner because it would take MG many months more on their own (we can only put its out-of-the-box condition down to lack of testing resources - which many players have now joined)

As for whinge/no-whinge, where would CoD be if these forums were deathly silent?

No-one is saying it's up to snuff yet. It 'runs' for many people who can dogfight and bomb in it and its great when you do but too many people can't run it (my old min spec XP PC won't even start it) and many features are still off the mark or are simply not working yet.

Sauf
06-03-2011, 12:25 PM
Well said Klem, now if we can only figure out how to get 1 & 2 from posting crap the rest of us can get on with reporting bugs and enjoying the game as is.

robtek
06-03-2011, 01:46 PM
I'll drink to that, Sauf!!!

II./JG1_Wilcke
06-03-2011, 03:28 PM
after a few month,s waiting , trying AL kind of different settings , programme.s like Radeon pro i give up .

what i do is this ..every month i look fore new patched and changes but i am not gonna try to let this game run smooth anymore .

those micro stutters are so annoying , the sound is horrible and the ground look like it is painted by a bad painter .

and no i am not gonna uninstall the game .

i still hope that there come,s a moment that i start the game and say to my self yesss that is were i was waiting fore .

Salute

1.JaVA_Picard

I agree with your frustration, I have a very capable rig, but the state of release and the delay in the NA market make for a fiasco of a start for this title. I hope it survives as its potential is huge. I hope that just like RoF which also was a disaster and is now a gem after two years and being taken over by a new company, CoD gets its due in further cleaning up its problems and further development to include the major theaters of operation in WWII and even before and beyond those time frames. Our credit cards are ready for the expansions!