One more movie: Hurricane vs. Do-17's over London

[Freycinet]

http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwDOTdalsgaardDOTeu#p/c/981CBC682E928D2A/3/xv4NBoj7Afg

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/xv4NBoj7Afg/default.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwDOTdalsgaardDOTeu#p/c/981CBC682E928D2A/3/xv4NBoj7Afg)

- The best pilot of the RAF is at it again. I wanted to see how well the sim performed over London. There was a bit of jerkiness, and the building textures didn't always come on as fast as they should, but it was well playable, as you can see. Those .303's feel like paint ball guns, but if you spray and pray for long enough they do seem to bring down even bombers... I guess the Do-17 defensive guns were even more puny...

I like how the bombers go down in a different way every time I manage to put holes in them. Still haven't gotten the big explosions other people mention, but I guess that didn't happen too often in real life either.

As always, hope you like this one, and comments very welcome!

[Eklund89]

Set correct distance and wingspan setting in the sight. Do17 should be 59ft. Range depends on your convergence. If you have convergence 200, set the sight to 420 and 58ft and when the Do17s wings touch the inner lines of the gun-sight you fire. Not at 20 meters. If you shoot at correct distance with correct convergence you can down 10 Do17 with the ammo you wasted.
When you see the rounds go under the bombers when you aim directly at them, correct and don't continue fire under them. Next time, put the pepper just above the target at that close range and you should hit better.

[Freycinet]

Thanks for the advice, I'm a nitwit and haven't even looked into setting the gunsight yet! - Not to speak of convergence...

This bit I don't understand:
If you have convergence 200, set the sight to 420 and 58ft

What is 420?

[Eklund89]

The range is set in yards.
200 meters = 218 yards.
The gun-sight measures from the dot to the inner line so double to get from inner line to inner line. Add some reaction time and error and you get around 420 yards range setting.
Standard convergence is 333m i think.

[sigintwarrior]

Nicely done. I can't manage all of the controls yet, without seizing the engine or crashing into a house. I won't even speak of my gunnery skills, or lack thereof.

[Freycinet]

The range is set in yards.
200 meters = 218 yards.
The gun-sight measures from the dot to the inner line so double to get from inner line to inner line. Add some reaction time and error and you get around 420 yards range setting.
Standard convergence is 333m i think.

Ok, just for me to get my head around it:

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/xv4NBoj7Afg/default.jpg

I should set the luminous circle I see in the above pic to:

(whatever my convergence is)
x 2
+ a little bit more for the yards to meters conversion

Is that it?

And then I should set the horizontal bars to the wingspan of the enemy?

Thanks, great help!

[Freycinet]

Nicely done. I can't manage all of the controls yet, without seizing the engine or crashing into a house.

Well, tell what your trouble is, maybe we can help?

[Eklund89]

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1610/brittishgunsight.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/brittishgunsight.jpg/)

Easy as rapesex

EDIT: i just hope this information don't make people shoot me down easier online :S

[Vengeanze]

Tack, Eklund. That pic is a keeper.

[Freycinet]

Tack så mycket!

BTW, the wingspan, shouldn't it be from horizontal line to horizontal line? Rather than from the line to the middle dot?

[Eklund89]

Tack så mycket!

BTW, the wingspan, shouldn't it be from horizontal line to horizontal line? Rather than from the line to the middle dot?

I don't know how it is in real life but as it is now: wingspan is between dot and horizontal line. Thats why you double to get between the two horizontal lines.

Edit: Vi borde lira lite coop nån gång. Alla som förstår får vara med.

[sigintwarrior]

Well, tell what your trouble is, maybe we can help?

I appreciate it. I really just haven't had the time to get that indepth with the manual and sit down and step-by-step it out yet. I can only get on at certain times (damn rl job and the wing commander/wife) so I use that time to just zip around and shoot up Stukas and He-111s;). This summer, however, I plan on spending alot of time and figuring it all out.

Gonna be practicing with that new info on the gunsight real soon though. Thanks for that little bit of info.

[Freycinet]

Same for me sigint! - Too little damn time...

[Vengeanze]

Forgot; Freycinet, thanks foir the video. I remember you from IL-2 forums. Haven't you learnt to aim better during all this time? ;-)


@Eklund: Får dator nästa vecka sedan tar det väl ett tag att lära sig skiten. Men sedan ska jag härja i mp. Ses där då. :-D

[Al Schlageter]

You didn't do a mag check. ;)

[LcSummers]

Hi Freycinet,

thats the fourth or fifth video? I like your houmor and comments;)

Nice stuff.

[Freycinet]

yup, the fourth one. There is a link to them all in my sig...

[Lololopoulos]

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1610/brittishgunsight.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/brittishgunsight.jpg/)

Easy as rapesex

EDIT: i just hope this information don't make people shoot me down easier online :S

nice thanks!

[ktodack]

Wow, great video, comments are just right. What HOTAS or control setup are you using-- any comments about getting the sim to the condition you demostarted in the video would be helpful to newbee's that get COD in the US the beginning of June.

[DoolittleRaider]

BTW, the wingspan, shouldn't it be from horizontal line to horizontal line? Rather than from the line to the middle dot?


I don't know how it is in real life but as it is now: wingspan is between dot and horizontal line. Thats why you double to get between the two horizontal lines.



Freycinet. I believe you are correct. From another thread, I saw that the COD MKII gunsight has either a bug or was incorrectly designed/coded... Thus the doubling of the range setting is a 'workaround' to have the correct size/image of the target aircraft at the desired Convergence distance (filling the space between the horizontal bars). So, until fixed in a patch, one would have to set the Sight Range dial at 400 yards if one had set Convergence at 200 yards.

[Freycinet]

And where in CoD do I set the convergence? Didn't find it neither in the FMB nor in the graphical interface.

Ah, Doolittle, that makes sense... I am still a bit confused about the settings, but try to keep the upper dial around 400 and the lower one at around 60 for bombers and 30 for fighters... I just made a new movie (my best and most dramatic so far, uploading now!) and the improvement in gun efficiency was palpable, so thanks Eklund!

[Freycinet]

Wow, great video, comments are just right. What HOTAS or control setup are you using-- any comments about getting the sim to the condition you demostarted in the video would be helpful to newbee's that get COD in the US the beginning of June.

Hi there,

No HOTAS, just an old Saitek Cyborg 3D stick... - As for the look of the sim, I didn't tweak it in any way. Just chose high-end settings and since I have a pretty strong gaming computer they run well...

[notimejeff]

don't forget you can download the RAF Gunnery manual Bag the Hun from Mission4Today/Guides and Tutorials/Gunnery section. It's RL so I don't know how COD's buggy sights measure up.

[mazex]

Great video - as always! Damn this game really is getting great now, think about it in a year or two when all the annoying bugs are gone... I just hope that MG survives that long!