Happy V-E Day from everyone at 1C:Maddox Games!

[luthier]

It’s been 66 years since the war ended. Take a moment today to think about all those men who fought it for real. Playing videogames sometimes makes you forget that there were actual people doing this same thing for real, and that they were never certain of the outcome, of victory, or of their own survival.

What we do here will never do them justice, and thankfully most people playing our flight sims will never know what it’s like to fight a real war. If it just makes you think about everyone who has fought and lived or died through that war, to realize that they weren’t superhuman heroes, they were ordinary people just like the people you know today, good and bad, smart and stupid, brave and not so much, that perhaps will make you appreciate their sacrifice even more.

[luthier]

Also, let’s use this thread for a brief look into the future of the series.

We will not release any more details or make any official announcements for at least a few more months.

[luthier]

And here’s something else from another previously revealed project as well.

[T}{OR]

And happy V-E Day to you and 1C.

First shot: IL2!!

Second shot: Battle for Moscow - we already know about that one.

EDIT: Got my hopes up to soon. :)

[Sven]

Teasing us with the Eastern front? :grin::grin:

I love it.

First shot looks like our favourite Russian attack plane, yay! :-)

[theOden]

First shot is a Il-2M so I wouldn't say carrier ops but rather barbarossa.

[EAF51/155_TonyR]

First shot: IL2 Sturmovik !!!

[Qpassa]

il-2 :)

[addman]

Happy V-E Day for u 2! Also, eastern front here we come again.:)

[Feathered_IV]

Il-2 eh? Great idea for a study sim if you ask me... ;)

[ATAG_Bliss]

Awesome shots.. I was hoping this would the order of released would follow along with WWII :)

[JG53Frankyboy]

another map that needs a lot of objects :D

[Langnasen]

Have I been transported to the Twilight Zone? CoD is still in major crisis and the first thread from one of the devs in days talks about some Russian add-on a few months up the road? If you don't get this game running properly pretty bloody soon nobody will touch another game from you lot with a pole, never mind an add-on for a broken one.

Yes, I'd like to play MP, mainly because there is zero SP. But I can't, MP is broken. Again. Care to talk about that instead of add-ons? Maybe some clue what you're doing about it and when we might see the results?

[pupaxx]

..so we will have Fw190, 109 G2 etc etc...?

[Eklund89]

Awesome!

[Sven]

Have I been transported to the Twilight Zone? CoD is still in major crisis and the first thread from one of the devs in days talks about some Russian add-on a few months up the road? If you don't get this game running properly pretty bloody soon nobody will touch another game from you lot with a pole, never mind an add-on for a broken one.

Yes, I'd like to play MP, mainly because there is zero SP. But I can't, MP is broken. Again. Care to talk about that instead of add-ons? Maybe some clue what you're doing about it and when we might see the results?

Like he mentioned, this will be the only information regarding upcoming addons in the next couple of months, its good to know that they also working on the future. You are right that they should focus more on CoD, and I believe they already do looking at the amount of patches, your post is too furious and uncalled for.

[JG53Frankyboy]

..so we will have Fw190, 109 G2 etc etc...?

will depend on the scenario, if it will be "Battle of Moskau" , so winter 1941/21, would mean no ;)

[LT.INSTG8R]

Mmm IL-2 at sunset. Me Like! Still probably my favourite plane from the original series.

[GnigruH]

ahh, so they already don't bother with clodo, now let's all do the same and wait for some eastern front stand-alone!

[theOden]

ahh, so they already don't bother with clodo, now let's all do the same and wait for some eastern front stand-alone!

or, they do care over Dover but as artists can't really help the situation they are put to do work on the upcoming packs while the core devs keep on fighting the bugs after a long well deserved rest.

But I've been wrong before.

[philip.ed]

Luthier, is it true that there are a lot of 'extra features' (previously discussed in the old friday update threads) which didn't make inital release, but are ready for inclusion in CloD...or are ready for improvement and then subsequent inclusion?
It's great to see that other projects are on the horizon, but I think it is fair to say currently that CloD models the BoB, rather than replicating it.

Best wishes, and happy VE day! :D

[NervousEnergy]

Like he mentioned, this will be the only information regarding upcoming addons in the next couple of months, its good to know that they also working on the future. You are right that they should focus more on CoD, and I believe they already do looking at the amount of patches, your post is too furious and uncalled for.
Amen.

Unless they've fired all their art asset folks, they don't have anything to do with 99% of the current patch/codebase efforts. You've got to keep them busy doing something if you're going to keep them employed, and the art is the most time consuming thing to develop in the sim.

It's hard to be objective about that with the current state of the engine, but we've already seen a tremendous amount of work with it in the last 5 weeks. Even if it takes another 3 or 4 months to get the engine firing on all cylinders that's still half the time it takes for one dedicated 3D artist to create a full cockpit. It's unlikely those folks have the necessary skills to help at all with the patching and optimization work that's going on.

You've always got to be looking forward in the revenue cycle to the next product, even if you're still working furiously on the current one.

And yes, happy V-E day! A toast to the Red Army and the titanic conflicts they fought on the Eastern Front. Too many here in the US forget that we were just a minor side show in WWII. The men, material, and casualties involved on the Eastern Front will (hopefully) always be the single greatest conflict in the history of humanity.

[HarryKlein]

Happy V-E Day :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/harryklein/Sturmo.jpg

[Langnasen]

Like he mentioned, this will be the only information regarding upcoming addons in the next couple of months, its good to know that they also working on the future. You are right that they should focus more on CoD, and I believe they already do looking at the amount of patches, your post is too furious and uncalled for.

Too "furious and uncalled for"? What would call for it then, a game promoted as cutting edge and fully functional that turned out to be no better whatsoever than non-functional alpha code? Would that call for it do you think?

I've put DAYS into beta-testing CoD for the developers. They haven't paid me...no, indeed, I PAID THEM. So the least I expect, after a long weekend, is some bloody word on what's being done to get the MP working again, not to mention the 101 other major issues that still haven't been fixed. Not some bollocks about an add-on/expansion months down the road.

Or am I being unreasonable? Please sir, when might I expect to be able to actually play the effing game I bought instead of endlessly TESTING IT?

[pupaxx]

...so CloD sales went well!;)

[Al Schlageter]

Amen.

Unless they've fired all their art asset folks, they don't have anything to do with 99% of the current patch/codebase efforts. You've got to keep them busy doing something if you're going to keep them employed, and the art is the most time consuming thing to develop in the sim.

It's hard to be objective about that with the current state of the engine, but we've already seen a tremendous amount of work with it in the last 5 weeks. Even if it takes another 3 or 4 months to get the engine firing on all cylinders that's still half the time it takes for one dedicated 3D artist to create a full cockpit. It's unlikely those folks have the necessary skills to help at all with the patching and optimization work that's going on.

You've always got to be looking forward in the revenue cycle to the next product, even if you're still working furiously on the current one.

And yes, happy V-E day! A toast to the Red Army and the titanic conflicts they fought on the Eastern Front. Too many here in the US forget that we were just a minor side show in WWII. The men, material, and casualties involved on the Eastern Front will (hopefully) always be the single greatest conflict in the history of humanity.

It would be nice if these 3D artists were working on more ships for the Kanal instead.

[luthier]

Too "furious and uncalled for"? What would call for it then, a game promoted as cutting edge and fully functional that turned out to be no better whatsoever than non-functional alpha code? Would that call for it do you think?

I've put DAYS into beta-testing CoD for the developers. They haven't paid me...no, indeed, I PAID THEM. So the least I expect, after a long weekend, is some bloody word on what's being done to get the MP working again, not to mention the 101 other major issues that still haven't been fixed. Not some bollocks about an add-on/expansion months down the road.

Or am I being unreasonable? Please sir, when might I expect to be able to actually play the effing game I bought instead of endlessly TESTING IT?

We're continuing to work on CoD. The new screenshots are in no way affecting that. You have a right to be angry and to demand a working game, and that's precisely why we're so motivated to work holidays and weekends.

It would obviously be unbelievably dumb for us to abandon CoD half-finished and to expect any kind of a success with a sequel (which is what the screenshots are from). Our future success depends on making customers like you happy.

[TwistedAdonis]

Luthier, you de man!

[RocketDog]

It would be nice if these 3D artists were working on more ships for the Kanal instead.

They could re-colour the fields and trees of England to be less flourescent lime green while they were at it.

[Zorin]

Luthier, as contacting you is a nightmare, could you tell me here if your FMB guy or guys has taken a look at his: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20024

Additionally, I offered to help out with modelling you all the bombs and related stuff that is still missing in the Luftwaffe inverntory. Didn`t hear anything about that either.

[Davy TASB]

It would obviously be unbelievably dumb for us to abandon CoD half-finished and to expect any kind of a success with a sequel etc etc

You're not wrong there bud, because there still seems to be a lot of disgruntled customers out there.

Good luck!

[warbirds]

Personally I would like to see COD fixed and expanded with more planes rather than another Russian war sim.

[Hecke]

finish Clod first than you can think of money making

[philip.ed]

Luthier, are all the elements that Oleg promised in the update threads or interviews ready for inclusion in the game once all bugs are ironed out?
It would be great if this was the case, because obviously a lot was said during the 2006 period up until release.

[BigPickle]

+1 yeah i'd really like to know these things too, I'm really hoping they have made some real headway on this offical patch since the last beta wasnt so great.

[Dano]

Happy VE Day all :)

Luthier, it's great to hear that addons are still on the way and I'm sure we're heading towards an epic sim series but can you give us some information on what fixes you and the team are making a priority for upcoming patches at all? I'm sure any information would be gratefully recieveb by the majority of members, even if it's just a general list of stuff on the radar.

Luthier, are all the elements that Oleg promised in the update threads or interviews ready for inclusion in the game once all bugs are ironed out?
It would be great if this was the case, because obviously a lot was said during the 2006 period up until release.

That would be a miracle given the amount of changes made since they would have been put on hold, I'd imagine that they'll all need some work.

[Albtraum23]

It’s been 66 years since the war ended. Take a moment today to think about all those men who fought it for real. Playing videogames sometimes makes you forget that there were actual people doing this same thing for real, and that they were never certain of the outcome, of victory, or of their own survival.

What we do here will never do them justice, and thankfully most people playing our flight sims will never know what it’s like to fight a real war. If it just makes you think about everyone who has fought and lived or died through that war, to realize that they weren’t superhuman heroes, they were ordinary people just like the people you know today, good and bad, smart and stupid, brave and not so much, that perhaps will make you appreciate their sacrifice even more.

:shock:
And no word about a new patch ?
Not one ?
Ok

Thank you for all the joyness with this game .
Thats ridiculous !
Und echt Frech.

[Kankkis]

Yeah, some information please ;)

How things are going

[jibo]

the $100 dollars question will it be published by ubi ?

[Flanker35M]

S!

Battle for Moscow..so Bf109E-4, Ju88A, He111, MigG-1/3, LagG-3 Series 1 and 4, I-16, I-153 etc. And Korea was also mentioned as Luthier's project at some point ;)

[Viking]

Thank you Russia for enduring and the final victory of the Great Patriotic War the and thank you 1C for educatng us and showing us what a gigantic task that was.
Viking

[rok]

Thank you for every veteran who fought for freedom and democracy.

[GnigruH]

So I guess there will be no med addon? Too bad, would be 100 times better than defending moskau in the name of Stalin, flying a thatch plane with wooden class 1 armor...

Yeah, some information please

How things are going?

[Stanger]

I wanted Korea.

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Happy VE Day Luthier,can't say I can get interested in the future projects until COD is made more stable,and the content within is useable,ie Comms,skins,weathering,and all the other problems we have.

Don't get me wrong,I knew what I was purchasing when I bought COD,but even so,thinking about the future projects at this stage in the game's life before it's fixed is somewhat cheeky IMO,lets walk before we can run eh?

[Baron]

Happy V-E Day.

And thx Luthier.



To everyon else: If u dont want to say "Happy V-E Day" dont post at all. Take it to one of the other gazillion threadhs allredy started.

Please.

Thx.

[MadTommy]

Happy VE day, let us not forget.

(For a thread from Ic wishing us a happy VE day some of the responses are pathetic, you can be disgruntled but this thread is not the place to show it, it's a bloody video game.. get some perspective.)

[2033cyborg]

Too "furious and uncalled for"? What would call for it then, a game promoted as cutting edge and fully functional that turned out to be no better whatsoever than non-functional alpha code? Would that call for it do you think?

I've put DAYS into beta-testing CoD for the developers. They haven't paid me...no, indeed, I PAID THEM. So the least I expect, after a long weekend, is some bloody word on what's being done to get the MP working again, not to mention the 101 other major issues that still haven't been fixed. Not some bollocks about an add-on/expansion months down the road.

Or am I being unreasonable? Please sir, when might I expect to be able to actually play the effing game I bought instead of endlessly TESTING IT?

+1000000000000

sanity at last, beta patches after beta patches and the only things you find to come with is a idiotic hint about a stupid add-on ( which you probably will charge us for and not a very original one on top of that...the russian front again!!is it you joker...)

PLEASE FINISH THIS BLOODY GAME THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!!

I paid your game with real money right, i mean i did not pay you with monopoly money so WHY OH WHY are you acting like i should get some kind of MICKEY MOUSSE kind of service from you, please , please Luthier explain it to me, i deserve an answer as i played all of your games for the past 10 years and i bought that non playable game PRE-ORDER mind you!!

and one more things, if you must do a bloody add-on why not try the MALTA campain should be quiet a nice following to the battle of britain! don't you think? And also Sir quiet frankly speaking can anyone really could stomack another russian front campain, comment give us a break or more simply, just a playable COD and i won't even ask about the radio...

[Baron]

Grow up.

[TonyD]

Yeah, happy VE Day! I’m sure most of our grandfathers would be mortified to see us playing a game based on their real-life tribulations, I know mine would. I remember feeling somewhat guilty when successfully dive-bombing the USS Arizona in a Val in ‘Pacific Fighters’, especially knowing the outcome of the mission I was replicating. As you say, hopefully most here will never know the horror of a real war, but this is one way of remembering those who fought so valiantly (and involuntarily).

[*Buzzsaw*]

Hello Luthier

Happy VE day, anyone who has taken the time to study history in any detail will know the sacrifice of the Soviet Union during WWII was the greatest of any, and to the heroic people of that country, (not to Stalin who hindered his own soldiers) we owe a huge debt of gratitude for accomplishing the main role in the defeat of Nazism.

Thanks for your hard work on CLIFFS OF DOVER, we know the Sim will eventually be everything we hoped for.

I have to say though, that I am disappointed at the decision to make another Eastern Front Sim.

Oleg at one time said we would see the Mediterranean as the next theater for the STORM OF WAR series, and the Med is one of the locations which was never simulated in either IL-2 or ANY other sim. (except through some modded maps) I think it would be preferable to see something new.

The other area which has not been covered by IL-2 is the Battle of Germany, the 8th Air Force and RAF Strategic bombing campaigns during the day and at night. These have been done by other sims, but not successfully online.

[baronWastelan]

We're continuing to work on CoD. The new screenshots are in no way affecting that. You have a right to be angry and to demand a working game, and that's precisely why we're so motivated to work holidays and weekends.

It would obviously be unbelievably dumb for us to abandon CoD half-finished and to expect any kind of a success with a sequel (which is what the screenshots are from). Our future success depends on making customers like you happy.

I strongly disagree, and can't believe you wrote that Ilya. One has "a right to be angry" if he was forced at gun-point to buy this "half-finished game" in its present state. If purchaser had simply waited until middle of April, he would have had a clear picture of the state of CloD and saved his precious 50 bucks for something important like tap-dancing lessons or bus fare.

[Mad G]

My congrats to all of you in Russia for the V-E anniversary. It was a very hard, very hard time for your people, but in the end victory was achieved. Thank you!

Please, not another russian front add-on, perhaps later. Balkans and North Africa would be much more appealing, but before that, make this fine out of tune sim fully flyable.

Best,

[Bakelit]

If purchaser had simply waited until middle of April, he would have had a clear picture of the state of CloD and saved his precious 50 bucks for something important like tap-dancing lessons or bus fare.


I bet some buyers made quite some sacrifices to buy this sim after following the development for years. Youngsters and some not well or hardly paid, some who bought new hardware in anticipation...

Knowing the former record of the developers, at the beginning there were not that many doubts.

Sure some here overreact but to be deeply disappointed about current matters I can easily understand, because I am ,too.


Happy VE-day!

[Ze-Jamz]

Well i have to say... though late 'happy V E day'

I cant believe this has turned into a flame thread again...show some respect, read the thread title again..

fellas there are a million other threads about issues you can rant in, please dont do it in this one, if you must start another thread about the addons etc fill your boots..

thks

~S~

[jf1981]

We're continuing to work on CoD. The new screenshots are in no way affecting that. You have a right to be angry and to demand a working game, and that's precisely why we're so motivated to work holidays and weekends.

It would obviously be unbelievably dumb for us to abandon CoD half-finished and to expect any kind of a success with a sequel (which is what the screenshots are from). Our future success depends on making customers like you happy.
Att1 (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachment.php?attachmentid=5857&d=1304952544)
Att2 (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachment.php?attachmentid=5858&d=1304952582)

Oh Yes ! the IL-2 Sturmovik will be Back !!

& I hope for Yaks ! they were great to fly too !

[Aracno]

I strongly disagree, and can't believe you wrote that Ilya. One has "a right to be angry" if he was forced at gun-point to buy this "half-finished game" in its present state. If purchaser had simply waited until middle of April, he would have had a clear picture of the state of CloD and saved his precious 50 bucks for something important like tap-dancing lessons or bus fare.

This is a classic example of a subject more monarchical of the King ..... :mrgreen:

[2033cyborg]

Grow up.

And why don't you try to explain why asking for a finish working product which was baught in good faith should sound childish to you...senior member!

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

I strongly disagree, and can't believe you wrote that Ilya. One has "a right to be angry" if he was forced at gun-point to buy this "half-finished game" in its present state. If purchaser had simply waited until middle of April, he would have had a clear picture of the state of CloD and saved his precious 50 bucks for something important like tap-dancing lessons or bus fare.

Hello baron. With respect, you really must be out of touch with the general feeling in the CoD community, that this release has been pretty much calamitous to date and the product does not work as advertised, along with many key features we were led to believe would be present being conspicuous by their absence. There is a lot of work to do.

As a paying customer, Langnasen has every right to express disappointment, even anger as I happen to know he forked out a lot of money for that system in order to play (he thought) it well. I spent a pretty penny myself solely for this sim, though nowhere near as much as him.

Ergo, to give Luthier credit at least he 'manned up' and they are doing something about it ; Langnasen's disappointment is probably typical of the silent majority, the vast majority of people do not even bother to express their opinions on forums, they will just tell their mates not to bother with this title unless it gets fixed. That is where we are, and I remain optimistic they will get there eventually. If not, then they can probably forget about any further custom from a lot of unhappy people. That's the way it is.

Luthier and co, thanks for the VE goodwishes and to quote Sir Winny.....KBO (keep buggering on).

Cheers. :)

[[URU]AkeR]

And why don't you try to explain why asking for a finish working product which was baught in good faith should sound childish to you...senior member!

Its simple, because you have 1000s of threads where you can cry about how angry you are.
But you choose this one thread that is about and event that is way more meaningfull that our gaming needs. And were the dev decided to give us a glimpse on the future of the series, wich will come when the engine is running steady of cuorse.

So will you grow up now?

[sorak]

Too "furious and uncalled for"? What would call for it then, a game promoted as cutting edge and fully functional that turned out to be no better whatsoever than non-functional alpha code? Would that call for it do you think?

I've put DAYS into beta-testing CoD for the developers. They haven't paid me...no, indeed, I PAID THEM. So the least I expect, after a long weekend, is some bloody word on what's being done to get the MP working again, not to mention the 101 other major issues that still haven't been fixed. Not some bollocks about an add-on/expansion months down the road.

Or am I being unreasonable? Please sir, when might I expect to be able to actually play the effing game I bought instead of endlessly TESTING IT?

Since when do you get paid to do beta testing

[ATAG_Doc]

Also, let’s use this thread for a brief look into the future of the series.

We will not release any more details or make any official announcements for at least a few more months.

Hmmm I've seen this before. I am pretty sure this is Russian.

Happy V-E Day!

[ATAG_Doc]

Too "furious and uncalled for"? What would call for it then, a game promoted as cutting edge and fully functional that turned out to be no better whatsoever than non-functional alpha code? Would that call for it do you think?

I've put DAYS into beta-testing CoD for the developers. They haven't paid me...no, indeed, I PAID THEM. So the least I expect, after a long weekend, is some bloody word on what's being done to get the MP working again, not to mention the 101 other major issues that still haven't been fixed. Not some bollocks about an add-on/expansion months down the road.

Or am I being unreasonable? Please sir, when might I expect to be able to actually play the effing game I bought instead of endlessly TESTING IT?

If I pay you for your game will you go away? You have 24 hours then its off the table.

[dougandtoni]

Grow up.

Thats mature

[Blackdog_kt]

Happy V-E day.

I too would like a med/balkans add-on (the existing planeset of CoD would already be good for that, add some 1942 aircraft that will double for the channel front '42 time period and you've got both Africa/Med and NW Europe covered up until 43) but on the other hand i also want to experience the eastern front campaigns with the capabilities of the new engine.

It will be a blast with the new damage modeling and CEM, flying those temperamental early war VVS planes or strafing armored columns in a sturmovik across the steppes.

And like others said, it makes sense to keep your artists busy with the next add-on while the coders focus on the bugs in the current version, it only saves time in the long run. ;)

[dbr1]

If I pay you for your game will you go away? You have 24 hours then its off the table.
LOL. Time to put up or shut up, as we say in the US.

[2033cyborg]

AkeR;280877']Its simple, because you have 1000s of threads where you can cry about how angry you are.
But you choose this one thread that is about and event that is way more meaningfull that our gaming needs. And were the dev decided to give us a glimpse on the future of the series, wich will come when the engine is running steady of cuorse.

So will you grow up now?

Are you for real ??
comment sport! try be constructif and then the big V and all that... is it really the proper forum to talk about it especially having made a life time making simm ( and money) about it...
and then i was not the one who decided to talk first about a new add on right after my big speech about the big V....

[Tree_UK]

We're continuing to work on CoD. The new screenshots are in no way affecting that. You have a right to be angry and to demand a working game, and that's precisely why we're so motivated to work holidays and weekends.

It would obviously be unbelievably dumb for us to abandon CoD half-finished and to expect any kind of a success with a sequel (which is what the screenshots are from). Our future success depends on making customers like you happy.

To be honest Luthier i am somewhat shocked by this post, effectively what your saying here is that you guys knew all along that the game you were putting out was not fit for purpose, all those vids that you showed us pre release were completely misleading. Time and time again I asked you and Oleg to show us real in game footage but the subject was avoided at all costs, I asked many time about SLI and how well the game would run on top end rigs, each question was either ignored or thrown back in my face, a few bans were also implemented to keep me silenced. Then we had the leaked Youseff video that we can all see was a marketing ploy since noone got the game to run that well out of the box.
If you want to make us happy why dont you start with a little truth, I am more than happy to put all your misleading hype pre release behind in the past, I am more than happy to help iron out bugs with error reporting, so how about a little bit back from you guys, i.e. tell us what really happened, you guys need to level with your fan base here, you can only gain respect from that and im sure it will help us all feel a little less conned.

last whine from me, im going to be more positive in future but this post from luthier just made me a little angry. Im over it now, lets move on :grin:

Peace.

[Wandalen]

Happy V-E Day from Norway http://www.norwegian-server.com/e107_images/emotes/default/flag.gif

The future looks fantastic for il2COD if it goes the same way as the first il2, Russian, Europa, pacific etc etc http://www.norwegian-server.com/e107_images/emotes/default/nature-smiley-015.gif :)



~S~
Wandalen

[Tvrdi]

Also, let’s use this thread for a brief look into the future of the series.

We will not release any more details or make any official announcements for at least a few more months.

future? wher is present? I cant even sell the damn game as ppl know its an epic failure....and Im selling it for cheap (not to loose all the money)...good luck with yor fun in the future...

[jojimbo]

We're continuing to work on CoD. The new screenshots are in no way affecting that. You have a right to be angry and to demand a working game, and that's precisely why we're so motivated to work holidays and weekends.

It would obviously be unbelievably dumb for us to abandon CoD half-finished and to expect any kind of a success with a sequel (which is what the screenshots are from). Our future success depends on making customers like you happy.

i knew all about the games pitfalls when o bought it, i have no doubt the team will get this sorted.
I reckon its the terrain engine, memory leak? there is absolutely no reason why my rig should perform so badly in CoD over terrain, whereas in RoF over citied its really smoothe, its not the amount of houses or trees, it must be something else making it heave.

good luck anyhow

[HamishUK]

Sorry but this is poor timing.

Posting about the future of the game when you still have a lot of work to do on CoD makes me somewhat peeved.

I understand this is what is happening in the future but to be honest I really couldn't give two monkeys until this game is fixed properly. You really have a long way to go on this one and posting about expansions is really poor show in my opinion.

Tell you what since I have been beta testing this one for you guys how about we get this expansion for free?

[Pbs]

Il-2? Well, here some tips for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-10
This plane were used during the early phase of the Korean War :)

[HamishUK]

AkeR;280877']Its simple, because you have 1000s of threads where you can cry about how angry you are.
But you choose this one thread that is about and event that is way more meaningfull that our gaming needs. And were the dev decided to give us a glimpse on the future of the series, wich will come when the engine is running steady of cuorse.

So will you grow up now?

So it's OK to praise 1C in this thread but not berate them?

How one sided.

[Rattlehead]

I did a little jig when I saw the Il-2...:grin:

Happy VE day to you and your staff Luthier, I hope that you guys have finally gotten some rest.

I thought showcasing some new stuff would go down well on the forum, since (to me at least) it shows that all the speculation about the series being dropped after the US release is a lot of rubbish.
Oh well, at least some of us are happy.

[Borsch]

Happy VE Day!!!!

[Luftrofl]

To be honest Luthier i am somewhat shocked by this post, effectively what your saying here is that you guys knew all along that the game you were putting out was not fit for purpose, all those vids that you showed us pre release were completely misleading. Time and time again I asked you and Oleg to show us real in game footage but the subject was avoided at all costs, I asked many time about SLI and how well the game would run on top end rigs, each question was either ignored or thrown back in my face, a few bans were also implemented to keep me silenced. Then we had the leaked Youseff video that we can all see was a marketing ploy since noone got the game to run that well out of the box.
If you want to make us happy why dont you start with a little truth, I am more than happy to put all your misleading hype pre release behind in the past, I am more than happy to help iron out bugs with error reporting, so how about a little bit back from you guys, i.e. tell us what really happened, you guys need to level with your fan base here, you can only gain respect from that and im sure it will help us all feel a little less conned.

last whine from me, im going to be more positive in future but this post from luthier just made me a little angry. Im over it now, lets move on :grin:

Peace.

I agree with this. I like the preview of the future but seriously, no update on patch progress for what we already have? I'd think after releasing the game in this state you would feel obligated to update us whenever possible, but if that's not how your roll...

Happy VE day

[Borsch]

Common now!

VE day is a major, MAJOR occasion in Russia- a national holiday! A vague picture of il2 announcement of Battle for Moskow is completely in tune with that as was Luthier's first solemn post.

Its got nothing to do with patches, SLI, FPS, etc- its VE day for goodness sake!

Happy VE day!

[TheDawg]

Also, let’s use this thread for a brief look into the future of the series.

We will not release any more details or make any official announcements for at least a few more months.


Whoa! AWESOME!
I'm looking forward to buying the Eastern front version of COD, be sure.
Any release date teases? :cool:

[JG53Frankyboy]

S!

Battle for Moscow..so Bf109E-4, Ju88A, He111, MigG-1/3, LagG-3 Series 1 and 4, I-16, I-153 etc. And Korea was also mentioned as Luthier's project at some point ;)
Even the possible planepool for this scenario looks interesting:
Bf109F, Bf109E-7/B, Bf110D&E, Ju87B, Hs123,Ju88A-5&-4, He111H-6
vs
MiG-3, Yak-1, LaGG-3, P-40B/C, I-153, I-16, Il-2(singleseater), DB-3, SB-2, Pe-2
as main examples

I also , very personaly, would have preferred an early North African , not to say a MTO, AdOn first.....
Also a tactical war with groundsupport but with additonal maritime warfare like carrieroperations and torpedobombers :)

[MACtic]

Not only bad timing but I also had to register to view the screen shots. How disappointed I was when I saw first picture of a dark-black something with no details and then second one that looks just bad.

[ChocsAway]

I wanted Korea.

+1

Jets with guns and cannon! Awesome :)

[Chivas]

Happy VE day to you and your staff Luthier.

[Seeker]

It is something to remember. The last good war?

Or was that the Falklands?

[squidgyb]

Not only bad timing but I also had to register to view the screen shots. How disappointed I was when I saw first picture of a dark-black something with no details and then second one that looks just bad.


They are just trying to show that they have the future in mind and that the Storm of War series is here to stay - the first shot is meant to be dark. It's a teaser a hint as to the theater that will be modelled.

The second one is a rather highly detailed render of some (possibly important?) soviet architecture - it's out of context which makes it look strange without any ground - but it is a very detailed piece of work.

They can't possibly patch all the bugs and fix the campaigns in one magical patch, and they have acknowledged that it will take time, but that they are in no way abandoning the sim and have no intention of doing so.

It seems as if Luthier & co are damned if they do and damned if they don't at this moment.

If they release a patch, it won't fix everyone's problems all at once and someone will be left shouting.

If they release information about the future, they're shot down (pardon the pun) for not patching the current issues.

I just hope that the constant belittling of the years of work they have put into this sim doesn't douse the fire that keeps them going.

I sound quite fanboiish in this post, but seriously, have just a little bit more patience.

[GuillermoZS]

What?! Eastern front again?!

C´mon... there are lots of scenarios that has not been exploited yet in the series... I was expecting B-17 bomb raids over Europe, or a true north African campaign.

Don´t mean to be harsh but I don´t see the point on moving to the eastern front again when Il2 1946 is still installed in every flight simmer computer...

[Rattlehead]

This place never ceases to amaze...

Had Luthier showed us some shots of North Africa, then people would be jumping up and down that they wanted the Pacific theatre instead.

Had it been the Pacific theatre, people would jump up and down that they wanted the eastern front instead.

It's all about "me, me, me."

Luthier comes on here to wish us happy VE day, an important holiday in Russia, and as an aside shows us a glimpse of the future of the series with a perfectly appropriate shot of an Il-2 Sturmovik, which was one of the biggest symbols of Russian resistance of the war.

Guess what? He didn't have to come out here and show us anything! People whine about lack of communication etc and fair enough, some of it is warranted, but my God when Luthier does show up he gets shot down in quick order. Like now.

As for some of the responses in this thread...it turns my stomach. This was a thread about rememberance and the sacrifice made by those brave soldiers...but no, instead it's given the whiners another reason to whine and bitch.
Predictable.

[Baron]

This place never ceases to amaze...

Had Luthier showed us some shots of North Africa, then people would be jumping up and down that they wanted the Pacific theatre instead.

Had it been the Pacific theatre, people would jump up and down that they wanted the eastern front instead.

It's all about "me, me, me."

Luthier comes on here to wish us happy VE day, an important holiday in Russia, and as an aside shows us a glimpse of the future of the series with a perfectly appropriate shot of an Il-2 Sturmovik, which was one of the biggest symbols of Russian resistance of the war.

Guess what? He didn't have to come out here and show us anything! People whine about lack of communication etc and fair enough, some of it is warranted, but my God when Luthier does show up he gets shot down in quick order. Like now.

As for some of the responses in this thread...it turns my stomach. This was a thread about rememberance and the sacrifice made by those brave soldiers...but no, instead it's given the whiners another reason to whine and bitch.
Predictable.


What do u expect from a community with and average age of 30+? (pretty pathethic isnt it)

[Stanger]

+1

Jets with guns and cannon! Awesome :)


Dont forget the carrier ops too. They were hinting about that project earlier but heard nothing since.

[Langnasen]

...but no, instead it's given the whiners another reason to whine and bitch.
Predictable.

And boy, ain't you good at it.

[JG52Krupi]

Happy VE day MG, nice shots can't wait to fly over Moscow AWESOME.

P.S. Please let us have the FW190 SOOOOOON :mrgreen:

[JG14_Jagr]

Have I been transported to the Twilight Zone? CoD is still in major crisis and the first thread from one of the devs in days talks about some Russian add-on a few months up the road? If you don't get this game running properly pretty bloody soon nobody will touch another game from you lot with a pole, never mind an add-on for a broken one.



Just to clarify, if you have the notion that there is an office in Russia with 12 guys all huddled around working on IL2's and Yak's while accross the hall a guy thinks to himself.. what can I try and fix in CoC while the other guys build the next add on you are wildly mistaken :)

3D model makers make 3D models.. its what they do.. there is an amazing AD-4 Skyraider and Mig15bis done as well..but that doesn't mean that it is taking 1 ounce of resources away from getting the game back on its feet.

There is a plan for this engine, to continue to improve, optimize, add new content, new maps, theaters, etc. They have no plans to drop support for this any more than they dropped it for IL2. They are really scrambling right now to get things fixed up.. in reality they've done some amazing things in a month given the complexity of the core code.. I would expect to see a very high tempo of fixes and improvements for the next several months until it reaches a level they are comfortable with, and then they will continue to improve it as they add new things to the game..

They are very much in this for the long haul.. grab a seat, this is how IL2 started and went on for 10 years.. and the possible ceiling for this engine is 10X what IL2 is limited to

[SYN_Per]

Just to clarify, if you have the notion that there is an office in Russia with 12 guys all huddled around working on IL2's and Yak's while accross the hall a guy thinks to himself.. what can I try and fix in CoC while the other guys build the next add on you are wildly mistaken :)

3D model makers make 3D models.. its what they do.. there is an amazing AD-4 Skyraider and Mig15bis done as well..but that doesn't mean that it is taking 1 ounce of resources away from getting the game back on its feet.

There is a plan for this engine, to continue to improve, optimize, add new content, new maps, theaters, etc. They have no plans to drop support for this any more than they dropped it for IL2. They are really scrambling right now to get things fixed up.. in reality they've done some amazing things in a month given the complexity of the core code.. I would expect to see a very high tempo of fixes and improvements for the next several months until it reaches a level they are comfortable with, and then they will continue to improve it as they add new things to the game..

They are very much in this for the long haul.. grab a seat, this is how IL2 started and went on for 10 years.. and the possible ceiling for this engine is 10X what IL2 is limited to

+1
and happy VE day!

[Blakduk]

Happy VE day guys (sorry i'm a couple of days late, in Oz we tend to focus on ANZAC day and VJ day).
The Il2 series really opened my eyes to the Eastern front and put the battle in the West into perspective for me. I've learned a lot from your work and thoroughly enjoyed myself at the same time.

[danjama]

This place never ceases to amaze...

Had Luthier showed us some shots of North Africa, then people would be jumping up and down that they wanted the Pacific theatre instead.

Had it been the Pacific theatre, people would jump up and down that they wanted the eastern front instead.

It's all about "me, me, me."

Luthier comes on here to wish us happy VE day, an important holiday in Russia, and as an aside shows us a glimpse of the future of the series with a perfectly appropriate shot of an Il-2 Sturmovik, which was one of the biggest symbols of Russian resistance of the war.

Guess what? He didn't have to come out here and show us anything! People whine about lack of communication etc and fair enough, some of it is warranted, but my God when Luthier does show up he gets shot down in quick order. Like now.

As for some of the responses in this thread...it turns my stomach. This was a thread about rememberance and the sacrifice made by those brave soldiers...but no, instead it's given the whiners another reason to whine and bitch.
Predictable.

+1

This thread should not have gone in the direction it did. A lot of you should be ashamed and embarassed.

I had a peaceful, yet eventful VE day, spent with friends and family. Hope yours was good too, Luthier.

[CUJO_1970]

Very much looking forward to more progress, both with CloD and with the expansions.

[Capt Backasswards]

Happy VE-Day to you too, guys. Some of us are historians at heart, and we need to remember so that the same historical mistakes aren't repeated.

[Troll2k]

I think Luthier opened a can of worms when he added the 2 screenshots to the VE day thread.If he wanted to show a glimpse into the crystal ball,fine.He should have made 2 separate posts.

[ptisinge]

+1

This thread should not have gone in the direction it did. A lot of you should be ashamed and embarassed.

I had a peaceful, yet eventful VE day, spent with friends and family. Hope yours was good too, Luthier.

+1 as well.

For goodness sake guy, Luthier tries to share something positive and exciting about the future, while he probably spends 99.99% of the time with his nose deep in the bugs, and all a bunch of you find to do is try to kick his head back in the negative. Do you really think he's deprived of negative feedback lately, do you really think a day spent talking about the future is so bad and misplaced, really? I wonder how you guys would feel if other would publicly do that to you whenever you don't deliver as well as expected in your own job, seriously...

Anyway, it's great to imagine that we might fly IL2s and FW190 with the same kind of details as we have in the Spits and BF109! But please keep the system of merged installations of CoD + whatever comes next in the same way as each iteration of IL2 could be merged with all the previous ones for the last gen!

[Hunden]

Too "furious and uncalled for"? What would call for it then, a game promoted as cutting edge and fully functional that turned out to be no better whatsoever than non-functional alpha code? Would that call for it do you think?

I've put DAYS into beta-testing CoD for the developers. They haven't paid me...no, indeed, I PAID THEM. So the least I expect, after a long weekend, is some bloody word on what's being done to get the MP working again, not to mention the 101 other major issues that still haven't been fixed. Not some bollocks about an add-on/expansion months down the road.

Or am I being unreasonable? Please sir, when might I expect to be able to actually play the effing game I bought instead of endlessly TESTING IT?

I do feel for all of you unhappy people out there but if this game is affecting you that much you've got other issues to deal with like getting a life. I have the game and no its not perfect yet. I actually play il2 1946 way more and enjoy it more than I do cod. I'm ok with cod at this time, it will get fixed somehow. If not by the devs....... then guess what this community has some of the best people (modders) that will take over if need be. The cat is out of the bag and there is no getting it back in......:grin:

[Theshark888]

I remember feeling somewhat guilty when successfully dive-bombing the USS Arizona in a Val in ‘Pacific Fighters’


How quickly some of you forget......Don't you mean the Prince of Wales:rolleyes:

[csThor]

Just to clarify, if you have the notion that there is an office in Russia with 12 guys all huddled around working on IL2's and Yak's while accross the hall a guy thinks to himself.. what can I try and fix in CoC while the other guys build the next add on you are wildly mistaken :)

3D model makers make 3D models.. its what they do.. there is an amazing AD-4 Skyraider and Mig15bis done as well..but that doesn't mean that it is taking 1 ounce of resources away from getting the game back on its feet.

There is a plan for this engine, to continue to improve, optimize, add new content, new maps, theaters, etc. They have no plans to drop support for this any more than they dropped it for IL2. They are really scrambling right now to get things fixed up.. in reality they've done some amazing things in a month given the complexity of the core code.. I would expect to see a very high tempo of fixes and improvements for the next several months until it reaches a level they are comfortable with, and then they will continue to improve it as they add new things to the game..

They are very much in this for the long haul.. grab a seat, this is how IL2 started and went on for 10 years.. and the possible ceiling for this engine is 10X what IL2 is limited to

Although one could argue that CoD still lacks a number of gameplay-sensitive types such as the Bf 109 E-1 and E-4, the Ju 52 and any kind of warship for both sides ... ;)

[Kongo-Otto]

This place never ceases to amaze...

Had Luthier showed us some shots of North Africa, then people would be jumping up and down that they wanted the Pacific theatre instead.

Had it been the Pacific theatre, people would jump up and down that they wanted the eastern front instead.

It's all about "me, me, me."

Luthier comes on here to wish us happy VE day, an important holiday in Russia, and as an aside shows us a glimpse of the future of the series with a perfectly appropriate shot of an Il-2 Sturmovik, which was one of the biggest symbols of Russian resistance of the war.

Guess what? He didn't have to come out here and show us anything! People whine about lack of communication etc and fair enough, some of it is warranted, but my God when Luthier does show up he gets shot down in quick order. Like now.

As for some of the responses in this thread...it turns my stomach. This was a thread about rememberance and the sacrifice made by those brave soldiers...but no, instead it's given the whiners another reason to whine and bitch.
Predictable.

+1
Thanks for this Post Rattlehead.

This Thread is about VE Day, some of you whining an bitching about CloD should do that on the other Threads in this Forum and should at least show some minimum of respect for the Veterans.

[JtD]

Looking forward to an Eastern Front scenario!

Hope the holiday was good, even if you guys spend it at the office.

[ami7b5]

Looking forward to an Eastern Front scenario!

Hope the holiday was good, even if you guys spend it at the office.

+1

[wannabetheace]

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Oh Yes ! the IL-2 Sturmovik will be Back !!

& I hope for Yaks ! they were great to fly too !

+1

Happy victory day!! over nazi germany

[Phazon]

Glad to hear that a new addon was approved by the publishers, given the current state of Cliffs of Dover. I didn't want the IL-2 series to meet an untimely end.

That said as you pointed out Luthier, if you don't finish Cliffs of Dover first no-one will hang around to buy the next installment so I'm glad you realise the situation we are all in. :)

[LcSummers]

Happy VE Day for everyone!!

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

+1

Hi My favourite chord,forgot where we last spoke:)

[tintifaxl]

future? wher is present? I cant even sell the damn game as ppl know its an epic failure....and Im selling it for cheap (not to loose all the money)...good luck with yor fun in the future...

I am interested. Please drop me a PM.

[Bloblast]

I would like to see COD complete first. Radio !!!
+ more type planes like Bf109E-1 + E-4
+ more features for the current campaign.

Russian front can wait I would say.

[MD_Titus]

ITT - adults acting like whining children and missing the point

This place never ceases to amaze...

Had Luthier showed us some shots of North Africa, then people would be jumping up and down that they wanted the Pacific theatre instead.

Had it been the Pacific theatre, people would jump up and down that they wanted the eastern front instead.

It's all about "me, me, me."

Luthier comes on here to wish us happy VE day, an important holiday in Russia, and as an aside shows us a glimpse of the future of the series with a perfectly appropriate shot of an Il-2 Sturmovik, which was one of the biggest symbols of Russian resistance of the war.

Guess what? He didn't have to come out here and show us anything! People whine about lack of communication etc and fair enough, some of it is warranted, but my God when Luthier does show up he gets shot down in quick order. Like now.

As for some of the responses in this thread...it turns my stomach. This was a thread about rememberance and the sacrifice made by those brave soldiers...but no, instead it's given the whiners another reason to whine and bitch.
Predictable.
+1
Looking forward to an Eastern Front scenario!

Hope the holiday was good, even if you guys spend it at the office.

+1

[15.Span_Valalo]

I would like to see COD complete first. Radio !!!
+ more type planes like Bf109E- + E-3
+ more features for the current campaign.

Russian front can wait I would say.

+1

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

You lot sure know how to bite the hand that feeds....

[GnigruH]

lol, some of you don't seem to realize who's hand is the one that feeds.

[Langnasen]

You lot sure know how to bite the hand that feeds....

Fed what? Edible is it?

[Conte Zero]

if you don't finish Cliffs of Dover first no-one will hang around to buy the next installment so I'm glad you realise the situation we are all in. :)

This is the point and somehow the "good news", in my opinion. Seeing the team working on add-ons and expansions is somehow our life insurance about COD being totally fixed and maxed out.
Nobody can build a sequel on a flawed base and hope to sell it. I am personally glad to hear the news.

And yes: 3d modelers have been working on that IL2 plane and on that building Luthier posted here. This does NOT mean that coders aren't working to the fixing of COD.

[Sternjaeger II]

Happy V-E Day to you too Luthier.. I see that you haven't learned much in terms of PR, but I suppose it's a Maddox Games trademark, isn't it? :rolleyes:

[carguy_]

This thread is just excellent. Fool of idiots moaning how we should get the game running, completely halting development of the next expansion altoghether.

Well you are EFFING WRONG!
The IL2 franchise has shown that those expansions are also code changers, which means lots and lots of bug corrections here and there. 1C is kept busy this way and can release the next product to get some needed revenue. If you don`t understand that then you should not playing the game at all, because you`re just too stupid. If we want this game to exist longer than a year, we NEED expansions as a good form of supporting the devs, and getting something in return. And let me tell you - 1C gives LOTS of content in their expansions.

So go ahead Luthier and tell the guy we`re waiting to spend some more money on your products. You should be warned though - as customers I think we require the first expansion to bring the CloD to functionality of IL2, wich means no big bugs, no show stoppers. Buying the first expansion pack is the amount of trust many of us are willing to give you again, cuz we believe in this game. That said, as a fan of the game, I can`t say that another botched release won`t bring the fanbase growth to a halt.

That said, I can`t help but feel a bit disapointed on the choice of the new theater of operations. I feel bored with Eastern Front. The main thing I`m concerned about is completion of any of them. I thought that the times when 50% of the planes in a coop were AI are already behind us. Now, when we haven`t even started to completing the western front plane pool, you tell us you`re working on another one.

[Gerfaut]

lol, some of you don't seem to realize who's hand is the one that feeds.

+1

[Georgio41]

Even though a Malta/N. Africa scenario would appeal, an updated IL-2 with the latest cockpits and a decent campaign mode would be awesome imo.

[Bartoszcze]

+1000000000000
and one more things, if you must do a bloody add-on why not try the MALTA campain ...

I believe many of us are already flying with Faith, Hope and Charity :)

[DarthElvis]

Maybe it's me, but shouldn't these art guys be doing something like, I don't know, optimizing their freakin assets? You know, stuff like compressing their damned huge texture files, optimizing the models, etc ? Half the performance issues in the game are their problem. I suggest they get on with it instead of modelling more useless churches and aircraft for the next add-on.

[Sternjaeger II]

Maybe it's me, but shouldn't these art guys be doing something like, I don't know, optimizing their freakin assets? You know, stuff like compressing their damned huge texture files, optimizing the models, etc ? Half the performance issues in the game are their problem. I suggest they get on with it instead of modelling more useless churches and aircraft for the next add-on.

..it might well be a third party development, even if the cartoonesque texturing looks appallingly similar..

[Zorin]

Maybe it's me, but shouldn't these art guys be doing something like, I don't know, optimizing their freakin assets? You know, stuff like compressing their damned huge texture files, optimizing the models, etc ? Half the performance issues in the game are their problem. I suggest they get on with it instead of modelling more useless churches and aircraft for the next add-on.

Nonsene...

They have delivered what they were asked to deliver. We all knew very well the ground objects would have as many polys as a IL-2 plane and we also knew that texture sizes would rise because we all want more eye candy and graphics that can compete with 2011 titles, SO DEAL WITH IT!

[GnigruH]

Where are Royal Navy and Kriegsmarine then?
Not to mention additional planes.
And more maps.
Main map also needs improvement.
Nothing more to work on in clodo? Don't think so.

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

I would like to see COD complete first. Radio !!!
+ more type planes like Bf109E-1 + E-3
+ more features for the current campaign.

Russian front can wait I would say.

+100%

There is so much more they can do to this campaign,it's a great period of history.

The thought of going back to the 'Russian Front' does not appeal quite frankly,I think the original iL2 covered this.

Now war over Europe,that would be something else,maybe,....and I'm sticking my neck out here,a flyable B17,with COD style cockpit graphics and flight model with complex engine management,just think of flying that with the four engines,what a beast to tame!!!

And not forgetting the Axis powers,maybe a flyable Fw190 or a Me163,ok now I'm dreaming,sorry,I'll leave.

[Buzpilot]

Luthier;
We will not release any more details or make any official announcements for at least a few more months.
I sure hope you meant this for the future series, and nothing to do with info for CoD.:confused:

[gprr]

1C Representatives:

Sorry to be blunt- You are talking about working arround the clock but you have to do it to make up for the state of the released game and to account for customer service.
If you don't get your act togerhear soon, CoD will be forgotten.
Talking about future addons for CoD in its state is bad joke.
Planely, the game needs fixing almost in every aspect:
-Performans
-Sound
-FM's
-MP
-Campains
-Effects
-Consistant FFB
-AI....

Still it is fantastic day to remember the victory over the Nazis:-)

GP
I7 920@3.92gh/WIN7 64/HD5870 2gbVram/6gb DDR3 1600

[lancerr]

Bob's strategic campaign layer changed the way I think about flight sims. I'm a lot more immersed in the fight if I was the one that ordered the attack.

Please consider making a strategic overlay on Il2-COD that allows us to control either the RAF or Luftwaffe, plan attacks, manufacturing resourcing and jump into fight when we'd like to.

[philip.ed]

Indeed, BoB2 is not just strategic. One can easily join a squadron, and participate in just that squadron's exploits. The campaign will follow historical events, but it's dynamic, so hugely reliant on the battle going on around. I personally have never had a better sim experience, and last summer, a few of us on simHQ did a day-by-day historical recreation of the BoB by posting daily AR's. It was interesting to compare eachother's, and they're well worth a read over there, as there are some awesome story lines which went on or (in my case) fizzled out...:cool:

[skouras]

I sure hope you meant this for the future series, and nothing to do with info for CoD.:confused:

i hope this too:grin:

[6BL Bird-Dog]

Happy V-E Day to you and all the 1C team.
The prospect of flying the iL2 and the later series of i-16 in the new format is something to look foreward to.
Keep up the good work on getting COD sorted and please take no notice of the whindgers ,I expect when they were little their Moms spoilt them just to stop them grizzeling all the time :)

[JG14_Jagr]

Although one could argue that CoD still lacks a number of gameplay-sensitive types such as the Bf 109 E-1 and E-4, the Ju 52 and any kind of warship for both sides ... ;)

You are assuming they are not already done, just not implemented intot he game.. I would not assume that..

[kendo65]

Indeed, BoB2 is not just strategic. One can easily join a squadron, and participate in just that squadron's exploits. The campaign will follow historical events, but it's dynamic, so hugely reliant on the battle going on around. I personally have never had a better sim experience, and last summer, a few of us on simHQ did a day-by-day historical recreation of the BoB by posting daily AR's. It was interesting to compare eachother's, and they're well worth a read over there, as there are some awesome story lines which went on or (in my case) fizzled out...:cool:

Sounds good. I really hope to see a decent dynamic campaign for CoD. Luthier mentioned he had produced a design document for it and was disappointed at it not being implemented as yet. I don't think that there is any other way to really integrate the immersive 'being there' experience into a game like this. Without it we are just playing single, disconnected missions with no real feeling of tension or period involvement.

Regarding the Eastern Front, i'm quite happy to see it redone with next-gen cockpits, etc. Personally I'd prefer it to the Med, though I have to say the Med would be a comparatively easy add-on for the dev team. Anyway, good to see that plans for the future are in hand.

[seacondor]

It would be nice if these 3D artists were working on more ships for the Kanal instead.

I agree with this. Where are the destroyers? Where are the smaller merchant ships.
I'm starting to think there is a problem with AAguns on moving objects. This would stop the release of war ships. :(

I would like to see the Med too. But I wonder if this platform can cope with it's map size. Having worked on the Med in CFS3 I know how big it is.
However I would be pleased to see it and may be get to fly that Wellington which was used a lot in Africa and the Med.

Still come on guys let use know how we are going with the fixes and if we will see any more ships from you.

[ATAG_Doc]

All these babies need feeding. You're never finished feeding. Whack-a-mole sort of thing.

[1.JaVA_Sjonnie]

The whole team deserves a holiday. Great of you guys to work on that patch instead of taking a rest, that's dedication to a measure which is rare in this market.:cool:

The new screenies are very promising - I also love the IL-2.
I will never forget the first time I started up the original IL-2 sim. It wasn't flawless but boy id it beat everything else...:cool:

The same will happen with CoD; patches will remedy some of the first issues. Then we will see a constant tide of updates. The sim obviously having a long development future, it will not get the usual (IL-2) framerates but hey!
this thing is being developed for the future and it won't be long until we get more goodies.

We know all that, right?
So why don't we give our favo development team a break?:confused:

[patient mode]

[FlatSpinMan]

Good luck with the new project. Any project would displease some people, especially in this market.
I appreciate the gesture of sharing exciting news with other fans. Others less so, it seems.

[danjama]

The whole team deserves a holiday. Great of you guys to work on that patch instead of taking a rest, that's dedication to a measure which is rare in this market.:cool:

The new screenies are very promising - I also love the IL-2.
I will never forget the first time I started up the original IL-2 sim. It wasn't flawless but boy id it beat everything else...:cool:

The same will happen with CoD; patches will remedy some of the first issues. Then we will see a constant tide of updates. The sim obviously having a long development future, it will not get the usual (IL-2) framerates but hey!
this thing is being developed for the future and it won't be long until we get more goodies.

We know all that, right?
So why don't we give our favo development team a break?:confused:

[patient mode]

massive +1

[He111]

Ah yes! IL2 - 2!

The 1C team have developed a tool that converts all IL2 planes into HD COD ones! .. and when they release all the new aircraft, they'll receive the Nobel prize as well.

He111.

[dflion]

Very well said Ilya. What IL-2 Sturmovik and IL-2 COD have done is realistically put you in the WWII air battle scenario, many people died in the real scenario. The simulations make you really think about what really happened and makes you think about the tremendous human losses from all sides during the war.

I have just finished reading Wing Commander 'Dizzy' Allen's account of the Battle of Britain in his excellent book 'Fighter Squadron'. During the battle, every week he lost a good friend, which he describes very passionately. Dizzy Allen flew Spitfires and our new Il-2 COD Spitfire really puts you in the 'hot seat' as he probably experienced it.

Good to see a Sturmovik pic and is the pic of the Kremlin a hint of a large Russian map?

DFLion

[Pluto]

It’s been 66 years since the war ended. Take a moment today to think about all those men who fought it for real. Playing videogames sometimes makes you forget that there were actual people doing this same thing for real, and that they were never certain of the outcome, of victory, or of their own survival.

What we do here will never do them justice, and thankfully most people playing our flight sims will never know what it’s like to fight a real war. If it just makes you think about everyone who has fought and lived or died through that war, to realize that they weren’t superhuman heroes, they were ordinary people just like the people you know today, good and bad, smart and stupid, brave and not so much, that perhaps will make you appreciate their sacrifice even more.

agree to that one, good post !
:!:

[drive-by-pilot]

Also, let’s use this thread for a brief look into the future of the series.

We will not release any more details or make any official announcements for at least a few more months.

If this game is not fixed there can be no future. why not concentrate on that for now.IMHO :confused:

[Pluto]

I strongly disagree, and can't believe you wrote that Ilya. One has "a right to be angry" if he was forced at gun-point to buy this "half-finished game" in its present state. If purchaser had simply waited until middle of April, he would have had a clear picture of the state of CloD and saved his precious 50 bucks for something important like tap-dancing lessons or bus fare.

... sorry baronWastelan, I dont want to offend you, but that is crap. I have not only spent the 50 Euros for the sim, I also bought a brand new pc for about 2500 euros all in all, only to be able to run this new sim that I was waiting for so long! Of course you can be angry and expect something better for your money !!!
If I would deliver such kludge to my boss I`d get fired !

:rolleyes:

(still I like the game and I also wait for further improvement of existing sim, rather than for a new addon)

[602Sqn.McLean]

... sorry baronWastelan, I dont want to offend you, but that is crap. Of course you can be angry and expect a working game for your money !!!
If I would deliver such kludge to my boss I`d get fired !

:rolleyes:

(still I like the game and I also wait for further improvement of existing sim, rather than for a new addon)
I tend to agree Pluto. I read this a bit through the forum that people should have waited, read the reviews and decided then if they wanted to purchase the game. If everyone did this how could there be reviews. I purchased the game as soon as I saw it was coming out. I did this because I (yes, perhaps foolishly) trusted the myriad of things they said this game would be on release.
I still believe this will be the best sim but I have to support those that feel upset with their purchase. It's their right.
At the moment my comp is running CoD like a champion with only a few bugs here and there.

[Pluto]

I tend to agree Pluto. I read this a bit through the forum that people should have waited, read the reviews and decided then if they wanted to purchase the game. If everyone did this how could there be reviews. I purchased the game as soon as I saw it was coming out. I did this because I (yes, perhaps foolishly) trusted the myriad of things they said this game would be on release.
I still believe this will be the best sim but I have to support those that feel upset with their purchase. It's their right.
At the moment my comp is running CoD like a champion with only a few bugs here and there.

...thanks for your solidarity,...
;)

[Baron]

If this game is not fixed there can be no future. why not concentrate on that for now.IMHO :confused:


Thank god u told them, other wice they would have no idea what to do next. They would be lost.



No offence.

[tumu]

its possible see more images about VVS planes for Battle of moscu ???
thx for all

[6S.Tamat]

Thank god u told them, other wice they would have no idea what to do next. They would be lost.



No offence.


Thank God they know what to do now! Indeed i can't fly online on CoD but i can see the Cremlin well done in 3d.



No offence.

[DarthElvis]

Nonsene...


SO DEAL WITH IT!

Bite me, douche.

[Zoom2136]

And yes: 3d modelers have been working on that IL2 plane and on that building Luthier posted here. This does NOT mean that coders aren't working to the fixing of COD.

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Codding does NOT equal 3d modeling of planes, groud vehicules and objects. It's EXTREMELY good knews that they are working on the second theatre of this series.

[Zoom2136]

If this game is not fixed there can be no future. why not concentrate on that for now.IMHO :confused:

See above

[Zoom2136]

Maybe it's me, but shouldn't these art guys be doing something like, I don't know, optimizing their freakin assets? You know, stuff like compressing their damned huge texture files, optimizing the models, etc ? Half the performance issues in the game are their problem. I suggest they get on with it instead of modelling more useless churches and aircraft for the next add-on.

See above

[Zoom2136]

1C Representatives:

Sorry to be blunt- You are talking about working arround the clock but you have to do it to make up for the state of the released game and to account for customer service.
If you don't get your act togerhear soon, CoD will be forgotten.
Talking about future addons for CoD in its state is bad joke.
Planely, the game needs fixing almost in every aspect:
-Performans
-Sound
-FM's
-MP
-Campains
-Effects
-Consistant FFB
-AI....

Still it is fantastic day to remember the victory over the Nazis:-)

GP
I7 920@3.92gh/WIN7 64/HD5870 2gbVram/6gb DDR3 1600

See above

[Zoom2136]

This is getting boring... guys if you have no idea how projects like these are put together... well s%&t the f%&k up...

Cheers

[Langnasen]

This is getting boring... guys if you have no idea how projects like these are put together... well s%&t the f%&k up...

Cheers

You really shouldn't talk to 1C like that. They tried.

[Hatch]

You really shouldn't talk to 1C like that. They tried.


I was going to write see above , but that might be misunderstood as well.

He probably means the general public who have no inkling how such projects are managed.

Not 1C.
A language barrier perhaps?

[GnigruH]

Lack of sense of humour perhaps?



This is getting boring... guys if you have no idea how projects like these are put together... well s%&t the f%&k up...

Cheers
What about other planes for bob, and warships?
'See above'?
Don't think so.

IMHO chosing eastern front is a sign of things going worse than expected.

Instead of going for a theatre that would sell the expansion worldwide, instead of adding american planes, they go back to ussr vs germs, which can sell good in these two countries, but not so good anywhere else.

I don't want to be right, but I'm afraid this russian expantion may be the last.
Like grab some money from where you easily can and gtfo?

[pupo162]

Lack of sense of humour perhaps?




What about other planes for bob, and warships?
'See above'?
Don't think so.

IMHO chosing eastern front is a sign of things going worse than expected.

Instead of going for a theatre that would sell the expansion worldwide, instead of adding american planes, they go back to ussr vs germs, which can sell good in these two countries, but not so good anywhere else.

I don't want to be right, but I'm afraid this russian expantion may be the last.
Like grab some money from where you easily can and gtfo?


All a mather of opinion.. who wants american planes when we can have russian stars??? oh boy.. .give me the russians

[Rattlehead]

Lack of sense of humour perhaps?




What about other planes for bob, and warships?
'See above'?
Don't think so.

IMHO chosing eastern front is a sign of things going worse than expected.

Instead of going for a theatre that would sell the expansion worldwide, instead of adding american planes, they go back to ussr vs germs, which can sell good in these two countries, but not so good anywhere else.

I don't want to be right, but I'm afraid this russian expantion may be the last.
Like grab some money from where you easily can and gtfo?

I'm willing to bet Russia is a bigger market than the USA, at least in the case of CoD.
C'mon...it's not like we didn't think there would be an eastern front at some point, right?
Does it really matter if it's next on the list or only later on?

[JimmyGiro]

If this game is not fixed there can be no future. why not concentrate on that for now.IMHO :confused:

If...

If it was not for the war of wars, probably your parents or grandparents would not have coupled; and if they had, their financial world would have been so different as to cast doubt on the conception of all born after that time.

And just as you and I are most likely to be the product of lucky events, out of our time, so the creative minds that make this game are out of our control, and in the minds of geniuses, whose parameters we are not fit to guess at.

The 1C team have proven themselves in the past, why should we betray them with lack of faith now?

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

+1

Best comment of the last 2 months, by one of the finest vitual pilots in the history of Il2. It expresses exactly how I feel.

Thanks for that Jimmy,

S!

Gunny

[SlipBall]

If...

If it was not for the war of wars, probably your parents or grandparents would not have coupled; and if they had, their financial world would have been so different as to cast doubt on the conception of all born after that time.

And just as you and I are most likely to be the product of lucky events, out of our time, so the creative minds that make this game are out of our control, and in the minds of geniuses, whose parameters we are not fit to guess at.

The 1C team have proven themselves in the past, why should we betray them with lack of faith now?



I don't think that drive by expressed a lack of faith, just urgency, and priority.:grin:

[Zoom2136]

i was going to write see above , but that might be misunderstood as well.

He probably means the general public who have no inkling how such projects are managed.

Not 1c.
A language barrier perhaps?

+1 yep, that's what happens when the French invade English forums... ;)

[KastaRules]

Yeah! Bring the expansion packs on, me likey! A big thank to you guys, because you keep the world of WWII Sims alive!

[kllr101]

What about other planes for bob, and warships?
'See above'?
Don't think so.

IMHO chosing eastern front is a sign of things going worse than expected.

Instead of going for a theatre that would sell the expansion worldwide, instead of adding american planes, they go back to ussr vs germs, which can sell good in these two countries, but not so good anywhere else.

I don't want to be right, but I'm afraid this russian expantion may be the last.
Like grab some money from where you easily can and gtfo?

IL-2 is a Russian franchise, made by Russian developers with a very large Russian fanbase. That was first released back in 2001 featuring the Eastern front of WW2 (Russia and Germany).

And you're wondering why Russia will be in it? ;)

[JG14_Jagr]

IMHO chosing eastern front is a sign of things going worse than expected.

That's funny, I see it as a natural progression because it's what happened next. Barbarossa would be the next logical step because it shares existing AC types. That and it follows the historical time line

[Al Schlageter]

That's funny, I see it as a natural progression because it's what happened next. Barbarossa would be the next logical step because it shares existing AC types. That and it follows the historical time line

Agh? There was fighting in the Med (ie Greece and North Africa) before Barbarossa. As for a/c, the same a/c types as in the BoB.

[tomaz]

....B17, B24 etc. Will we ever see it?:confused:

[Blackdog_kt]

Talk of add-ons by the dev team is encouraging to me. It tells me they believe they can keep working on the series. They didn't lay off their artists, they didn't send them on extended leave, they have them working (and getting paid) on the next expansion while coders work on optimizing the current version. This shows me that they are out of the woods financially and we can all probably rest easy they'll keep supporting the new series.

As for the selection of theaters, i wouldn't mind some med/N.Africa action but i have no problem with eastern front too. How many times have we seen a repetition of the ETO and how many times have we seen the MTO and eastern front? The med and Barbarossa are original and not done to death, so bring it on.

Don't get me wrong, i can't wait to some day fly 190s against B-17s or mosquitoes on night intruder missions over western Europe. It's just that some originality is also good and it constitutes another selling point.

Another thing that has been mentioned by others is that the med and the eastern front also share a lot of common aircraft types with what we already have in CoD or slight modifications of existing ones... the Hurris are very similar for example: add two more guns, adjust weight and engine data and you have an Mk.IIb, or add bomb racks too and replace the .303s with Hispanos and you got an Mk.IIc.

In a similar fashion, 109Es, 110s and He111s are perfect for a barbarossa scenario too.

This gives the dev team more time to focus on rounding out the rest of the appropriate planeset by adding in a P-40 and more Italian fighters for the med or the VVS fighters in case of an eastern front expansion.

[Frequent_Flyer]

I'm willing to bet Russia is a bigger market than the USA, at least in the case of CoD.
C'mon...it's not like we didn't think there would be an eastern front at some point, right?
Does it really matter if it's next on the list or only later on?

This particular point in the "Eastern Front" represents essentially the BOB without the Channel. Tiny, slow aircraft with a thimble full of fuel flying the same extremely limited short tactical missions with very little ammunition. You can take up your Ju-87( IL-2) escorted by BF-109( Yak or LaGG) and attack a small target 30 miles from you airbase. Substitute your Spitfire or Hurricane, Ju-88 or He-111 and you get the picture. All of your computers resources spent rendering London is of little value and will probally be repeated rendering Moscow.Proving to be more of a liability when considering" playability" ,framerates.
The Med. offers more varity in aircraft ,tatical scenario's and more interesting map.

[dcal]

Excellent! Keep up the amazing work.

[Ploughman]

Pleased to hear you're thinking forward, happy VE Day.

[Tree_UK]

I wouln't get to worked up over suggested sequel to Cliffs of Dover, dont forget the American release is only 2 weeks away, talk of future additions is most likely to raise confidence for those potential buyers. Personally I think a North African Campaign will be the way they will go if indeed a sequel is being planned.

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

any news on how Oleg is getting on?

[philip.ed]

Who? :cool:

[Avala]

Also, let’s use this thread for a brief look into the future of the series.

We will not release any more details or make any official announcements for at least a few more months.



What future?

Ahhh I get it now . . . another Monty Python jokes post.

[robtek]

What future?

Ahhh I get it now . . . another Monty Python jokes post.

I don't get it, monty python is funny, your post is....not.

[Capt Backasswards]

any news on how Oleg is getting on?

philip.ed response:

Who?


Now, that's funny!!!:lol:

[philip.ed]

Funny, but I take it back, as in hindsight it seems offensive. Wherever he is, I'd raise a glass to him and the team for even bringing us the sim. Thankyou :grin:

[Theshark888]

its possible see more images about VVS planes for Battle of moscu ???
thx for all

You are not serious are you:evil:

[=69.GIAP=MORAK]

Happy V-E day( even if I am :oops:late) I have to be honest I havent purchaced Clod yet. Alot of people in our squad have it and have worked with all kinds of settings and kind of formulated a working result. I was more interested in KOREA but I will take the Russian front as well.

I think once the game reaches a playable level it will be fantastic! Thanks for your hard work Luthier and 1C!

[IceFire]

I've been so busy I missed this!

Very cool teasers... I really like the Eastern Front. It wasn't an interest until IL-2 made it into an interest for me. Love to see more soon :)