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winny
05-09-2011, 11:31 AM
Inspired by MP's thread to end all threads..

I thought I'd just try and get some idea of where things are, it's hard to tell with lots of repeat threads.

So which best describes how you feel about CoD today..

pupaxx
05-09-2011, 11:43 AM
Confident, it's just the beginning!

von Pilsner
05-09-2011, 11:45 AM
Inspired by MP's thread to end all threads..

I thought I'd just try and get some idea of where things are, it's hard to tell with lots of repeat threads.

So which best describes how you feel about CoD today..

Ambivalent, I have many more important issues in my life right now than the ultimate fate of CoD.... (not being a smart-ass, but with rent, gf, work, etc... it's hard to get too worked up one way or the other over a video game).

I want it to succeed, but I don't have an emotional investment in it (just a monetary one.... :))

whatnot
05-09-2011, 12:04 PM
Ambivalent, I have many more important issues in my life right now than the ultimate fate of CoD.... (not being a smart-ass, but with rent, gf, work, etc... it's hard to get too worked up one way or the other over a video game).

I want it to succeed, but I don't have an emotional investment in it (just a monetary one.... :))

It obviously tickles some nerves as you hang around the CloD forums in the middle of the day taking time answering polls and even writing comments about how you don't care too much about the future of the title.

I guess your gf let you out during your day off from work since you've taken care of the rent so well. :grin:

whatnot
05-09-2011, 12:26 PM
I guess it's safe to say that the launch has been pretty far from a succesful one. However having applied all the patches except the one still in beta phase for me the game is quite playable.

My FPS is ok (have a nice rig too), I think the game looks good (terrain & the colours work for me) and I've got the best WW2 simming experiences of my life surviving some of the tougher missions with a few kills to bring home with me.

What I still want is:
- Working radio comms
- Getting rid of the supernatural AI moves
- A good immersion adding briefing screens to bring continuity (next patch?)
- Great campaigns from the community with historical depth and details

I'm sure there is a load of things to fix & stuff to add on top of the above, but those will do it for me and the rest is just extra I'll be happy to receive. A real dynamic campaign ofcourse is a dream, but I've given up about that as it seems to be a mission impossible for so many developers.

Please excuse my ignorance: What is this talk about non functioning full screen? I've run the game in full screen without any issues for some time now. Are the aspects somehow incorrect or what's the fuzz about?

Feathered_IV
05-09-2011, 12:37 PM
I've put it away to see if it's fixed in the future

Not worth my time at the moment. I'll continue to watch the contortions of the devs here though. Thats always been half the game after all.

Moggy
05-09-2011, 12:41 PM
To quote the great man himself;

"This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRH5wzCQQw

Rattlehead
05-09-2011, 12:45 PM
Playing and enjoying it, despite the flaws.

I must say though, the devs really, really need to implement the comms as soon as possible.
Place holders for engine sounds is one thing, dodgy AI is one thing, but they're at least functional to a degree.
Comms are...missing.

pupaxx
05-09-2011, 12:54 PM
Please excuse my ignorance: What is this talk about non functioning full screen? I've run the game in full screen without any issues for some time now. Are the aspects somehow incorrect or what's the fuzz about?

+1 Me too, I never experienced problems related to full screen mode since version 1.0.0; or related to what I suppose being 'full screen'.

Rattlehead
05-09-2011, 12:56 PM
If you guys have to click on the screen to get rid of the taskbar when CoD starts, then you're running in pseudo fullscreen mode.

whatnot
05-09-2011, 01:01 PM
If you guys have to click on the screen to get rid of the taskbar when CoD starts, then you're running in pseudo fullscreen mode.

I do have to click it most of the times atleast, but it hasn't been a problem for me. Is that killing performance for some people or what makes it a big deal?

Grey
05-09-2011, 01:07 PM
I am playing and enjoying it, despite the flaws!:) Now there are shortcomings in any other projects. This is only the beginning of the project. Patience, gentlemen! Everything will be better!

carguy_
05-09-2011, 01:12 PM
I put it away for a while though I keep updating her with the latest official patches, checking if it`s flyable over Dover (currently it is not). I have shit hardware so no prob here, gonna build something better at the start of the next year so hopefully ClOD will be running bugfree at that time.

SNAFU
05-09-2011, 01:22 PM
You should´ve added one option:

"I do not try to play anymore and wait till things get sorted out, meanwhile I get into the ME and skinning"
So I put it away, but use it anyhow and have some fun with other aspects of the software... :rolleyes:

BP_Tailspin
05-09-2011, 01:28 PM
I voted: "I've put it away to see if it's fixed in the future" … because I don’t have the game yet.

After the US release I’m going to wait and see what happens before buying. I have no interest in beta testing a game that has been in development for 5 or 6 years and is still not ready.

Time will tell, IL-2 Sturmovik is a great game so let’s see if IL-2 Sturmovik / Cliffs of Dover can hold onto its customers after a ruff start, I think it well.

He111
05-09-2011, 02:05 PM
Still putting my system together but there's no rush, SLI might take awhile.

He111.

winny
05-09-2011, 02:06 PM
You should´ve added one option:

"I do not try to play anymore and wait till things get sorted out, meanwhile I get into the ME and skinning"
So I put it away, but use it anyhow and have some fun with other aspects of the software... :rolleyes:

You're right, don't wanna change it now.

I tried to be as general as I could :)

Buzpilot
05-09-2011, 03:06 PM
I enjoy it, despite it's flaws, because it beats the socks off FSX anyways, exept for ILS and instrument flights, but thats boring anyway after it's learned. I have one A2A plane, P47, but after learning to fly it, it's even more frustrating to not have the ability to shoot with it.

MadBlaster
05-09-2011, 03:33 PM
Took CLOD off my machine yesterday and put on Tom Clancy HAWX, which I got free with my joystick. Now I just pretend that I spent the $50 on that cheap thrill instead of CLOD and everything is okay.:-P

If it is easy to implement, maybe the developers could consider putting in texture compression. Most do not have vid cards with 1.5 GB of VRAM. That is atypical for gaming. All my other games run smooth as glass at decent resolutions with just 256 mb VRAM. Yet this game, at 640x480 and all settings toned down to barest of bare, when I run the tiger moth track(which is just one plane over land), I see pauses even though the frame rates, min, max and average are all above 30 fps. Also, I check youtube vids now and again and guys with the best systems and plenty of VRAM with high settings...I see that frame rates are decent, but I also notice only two or three planes in these videos...and I still see the pauses. So, that makes me not want to upgrade at this point in time. I need a lot more positive evidence before buying a new pc for this game, when my current pc suits me fine in every other way except for CLOD. Texture compression might be an interim solution for guys like me who are hesitant to invest in hardware at this point and have no reason to play CLOD otherwise.

TwistedAdonis
05-09-2011, 05:07 PM
I voted: "I've put it away to see if it's fixed in the future" … because I don’t have the game yet.

Is it really ethical to vote at all then?

MadTommy
05-09-2011, 05:43 PM
winny thank you for a poll that finally has a use & is not skewed in one direction.

I am playing and enjoying it, despite the flaws

Very much enjoying playing it.... i think the future looks good for this sim. With full realism & the huge potential via the mission builder... I'll defiantly get my money's worth over the next few years.

BP_Tailspin
05-09-2011, 06:06 PM
I voted: "I've put it away to see if it's fixed in the future" … because I don’t have the game yet.

After the US release I’m going to wait and see what happens before buying. I have no interest in beta testing a game that has been in development for 5 or 6 years and is still not ready.

Time will tell, IL-2 Sturmovik is a great game so let’s see if IL-2 Sturmovik / Cliffs of Dover can hold onto its customers after a ruff start, I think it well.


Is it really ethical to vote at all then?

Is it really ethical to take your loyal customers hard earned money for COD in its current state?

I read this forum almost daily for the past 4 years; page after page. I think I have a good idea that “I've put it away to see if it's fixed in the future” would be my exact course of action, so yes my vote was indeed a ethical.

Blackdog_kt
05-09-2011, 07:03 PM
Enjoying it despite the problems.

That doesn't mean there are no problems, it just means they are gradually being reduced, making the sim usable and fun as time goes by.

I run it on a two-year old PC with most of the settings on medium, it's smooth, to me it looks better than IL2 on max detail and has a lot more complexity to tinker with when flying the aircraft, so overall it works very well for me.

fruitbat
05-09-2011, 07:31 PM
stopped playing it until it improves a great deal.

I could live with the gfx and fps issues if the fm's were anywhere near close to reality, plus you could actually fly at the planes operational heights.

but at the moment, just doesn't cut it for me.

Rattlehead
05-09-2011, 08:10 PM
I do have to click it most of the times atleast, but it hasn't been a problem for me. Is that killing performance for some people or what makes it a big deal?

Pseudo fullscreen prevents AA from being implemented properly, as well as V-sync. Some Amd cards also don't clock up to full speed because of it.
That is my understanding of the issue.

snwkill
05-09-2011, 08:31 PM
I guess the closest one on this list for me is "put it away to see if it is fixed in the future"

Playability wise it works great now. The new beta seems to have made it very playable indeed. With that said....

If this game came out today in the state that it is in the best I could give it is a 6/10. Not because of playability, but yet replayability.

I am not a very big online gamer, and it seems that this is the direction that this game wants to take. I wonder if a dynamic campaign will make its way in but for replayability purposes it lags far far behind the original Red Baron from the early 90's. I want to hear about how much of a badass I am for downing 5 planes (because I have unlimmited ammo of course)... and get scorned for when I leave my wingmen. A feel of progression really is missing.

So at this time I check back in time from time to see if there are any new developments and play once or twice when a new patch comes out. Until the community brings depth to the single player experience. I am affraid I won't be able to fully enjoy the game.

For what it is though, the flight model is supurb the damage effects are top notch, and you really feel good when you blow a plane out of the sky and watch it spiral to the ground. But it all disapears when you mess up and crash on landing just to get the same boring "I was glad to be back on the ground" speach.

kimosabi
05-09-2011, 08:38 PM
I putted it away! Maybe later! I VOTE PINK!

ParaB
05-09-2011, 09:24 PM
Shelved the game for the time being. Will check back later when hopefully most of the obvious problems have been fixed.

Capt Backasswards
05-09-2011, 09:30 PM
I'm fairly satisfied and I'm enjoying the sim dispite the flaws that are there. I also have faith in these guys after seeing what they did with the original IL2. It may not happen as fast as last time, but I do think before the end of the summer - she will be rockin'.;)

Rattlehead
05-09-2011, 10:22 PM
Took CLOD off my machine yesterday and put on Tom Clancy HAWX, which I got free with my joystick. Now I just pretend that I spent the $50 on that cheap thrill instead of CLOD and everything is okay.:-P

If it is easy to implement, maybe the developers could consider putting in texture compression. Most do not have vid cards with 1.5 GB of VRAM. That is atypical for gaming. All my other games run smooth as glass at decent resolutions with just 256 mb VRAM. Yet this game, at 640x480 and all settings toned down to barest of bare, when I run the tiger moth track(which is just one plane over land), I see pauses even though the frame rates, min, max and average are all above 30 fps. Also, I check youtube vids now and again and guys with the best systems and plenty of VRAM with high settings...I see that frame rates are decent, but I also notice only two or three planes in these videos...and I still see the pauses. So, that makes me not want to upgrade at this point in time. I need a lot more positive evidence before buying a new pc for this game, when my current pc suits me fine in every other way except for CLOD. Texture compression might be an interim solution for guys like me who are hesitant to invest in hardware at this point and have no reason to play CLOD otherwise.

I'm afraid to say that 256mb v-ram is nowhere near enough in today's gaming world.
My trusty old Nvidia 6800 GT had 256 mb v-ram, and that was back in 2004 - seven years ago.
You may get away playing a few console ports with such low v-ram, but in all honesty 1gb v-ram is about standard today. 512mb v-ram is about as low as you want to go nowadays.

MadBlaster
05-10-2011, 01:03 AM
Agreed. The CLOD official vram specs are 512 minimum and 1gb recommended. But everything I've read says those aren't cutting it for the resolutions and eye-candy that guys want to play this game at. So if not, why isn't DX texture compression in the game so they can? It doesn't make any sense to me why they would exclude it, unless maybe it made the game really horrible to look at. If that is the case, they should have told us that we need 2gb cards. Those cards are high end, not the norm, but at least we are dealing in reality.

Anyway, the post above, I wasn't expecting to use my current 256 mb card for this game. I simply wanted to do fps benchmark, so I forced off all the card settings, stripped down the config.ini and lowered the resolution so that vram wouldn't cap out during the runs.

Havoc04
05-10-2011, 02:34 AM
"Put away till fixed"

Played the entire British "SCRIPTED" Campaign. Wasn't very exciting. Haven t played the Luftwaffe yet. Got turned off after the very 1st mission is bugged.

And so what else is there to do? FMB? Not particularly interested in that at all, So that soughta really leaves the Quick Missions. Which at the end of the day get boring very fast.

I do love the game FOR WHAT it could be, but at its present stage there REALLY isn't anything to continue with is there?

I hate to bring it up. But the DCG that IL2 gave the game a longevity. Every mission was different and you played till you're death or the war ended.. AWESOME!! CoD ...VERY Boxed!

Disappointed

Regards

xnomad
05-10-2011, 02:57 AM
What kind of masochist votes like this?

"I'm playing it and not enjoying it because of the flaws "

I cry foul on this one, you must be enjoying something if you are playing it!

It's not a chore it's a game if you don't like it don't play it. :rolleyes:

apparition
05-10-2011, 09:40 AM
to many things dont work or are missing.
ill revisit the game in a couple months mabey things will have improved by then.

jimbop
05-10-2011, 09:54 AM
Good poll (finally), thanks. Lots of work to be done but I'm not as pessimistic as some: Playing and enjoying it, despite the flaws.

pupaxx
05-10-2011, 10:09 AM
What kind of masochist votes like this?

"I'm playing it and not enjoying it because of the flaws "

I cry foul on this one, you must be enjoying something if you are playing it!

It's not a chore it's a game if you don't like it don't play it. :rolleyes:

+10

jimbop
05-10-2011, 10:15 AM
What kind of masochist votes like this?

"I'm playing it and not enjoying it because of the flaws "

I cry foul on this one, you must be enjoying something if you are playing it!

It's not a chore it's a game if you don't like it don't play it. :rolleyes:

Not necessarily - I would have chosen this if I was still testing settings and tweaking without being able to actually 'play'.

winny
05-10-2011, 11:37 AM
What kind of masochist votes like this?

"I'm playing it and not enjoying it because of the flaws "

I cry foul on this one, you must be enjoying something if you are playing it!

It's not a chore it's a game if you don't like it don't play it. :rolleyes:


It's probably got more to do with my bad wording of it...

It's for peope who play it, get frustrated and play something else, I hope most people know what I meant.

ReconNZ
05-10-2011, 11:46 AM
The problem with this game is the flashes of brilliance!

I get a little annoyed by the lack of some features, overall it runs pretty smooth for me, I'm waiting for the campaign to get fixed and to be able to loadout my planes and command wingmen, plus for the MP to work smoothly..

Problem stopping me from putting it away is the moments like I had just now, up against a pack of unsupported bombers, diving down on one, must have hit his fuel tank - he explodes in front of me I then swoop out of the dive and have to break sharply to avoid hitting a piece of his smoking fuselage at it tumbles past my wing... very cool! I then flew into flack and watched another bomber take a direct hit from flack right in front of me - blew him to pieces!

This is of course balanced by all the sorties i empty all my ammo into the back of a bomber and it flys on happily, Oh how i wish we could land and rearm!

So yeah, annoyingly addictive! I cant wait for it to be fixed!

Viper2000
05-10-2011, 11:50 AM
What kind of masochist votes like this?

"I'm playing it and not enjoying it because of the flaws "

I cry foul on this one, you must be enjoying something if you are playing it!

It's not a chore it's a game if you don't like it don't play it. :rolleyes:

Some of us are effectively acting as unpaid beta testers, finding bugs, investigating them, posting our findings in the appropriate forum and hoping that this will result in a fix from the devs.

This isn't "fun" in the sense that flying IL2 would be fun. It's more like some kind of community service work. It's worth doing, because it may help the game get better faster, but it's certainly not instantly gratifying.

Gerfaut
05-10-2011, 11:53 AM
Not necessarily - I would have chosen this if I was still testing settings and tweaking without being able to actually 'play'.

+1

BigPickle
05-10-2011, 12:41 PM
Trying to play it through its flaws but I'm probably gonna stop playing it to see where it goes if the next patch doesnt make real headway so they can start adding content.
I always end up feeling very frustrated when i try to play this game at the moment if i'm honest.

sigintwarrior
05-10-2011, 12:50 PM
I have to say that after years of tweaking IL2 Sturmovic and its addons, I am kind of disappointed with this version. The ability to have a different pilot and start new campaigns was a nice idea in the old game. The ability to easily customize a quick mission was much easier in my opinion. There are many complaints that I am sure we could all bring up, but I am willing to wait to see where this game goes. I hope that the devs will continue to give it the support it needs and deserves. Patch on!;)

Gollum
05-10-2011, 07:29 PM
You forgot an option. :)

"I know this game will be great if not given up on so I'm playing it and enjoying it despite the flaws, but believe we are owed more frequent and regular patches with improvements that don't further break the game until all features are included and in good operating condition as promised to the consumer at time of purchase."

Widow17
05-14-2011, 10:07 PM
interesting!!:grin: