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Kakashi
05-06-2011, 03:52 PM
Like I asked in the title, can anybody direct me to the name of a software which would allow me to see how many percent are my CPU and GPU actually being used? Thanks in advance.

EDIT: If you guys pass by and read this, would you please post your CPU usage percentage so that I may compare :) on last beta patch, thanks in advance you guys have a nice week end

TonyD
05-06-2011, 04:10 PM
I use MSI Afterburner for gpu usage - it's a custom version of RivaTuner and works on almost all cards (doesn't have to be MSI). It also allows adjustment of the clock rates, voltage and fan profile, depending on model. For cpu usage I use Task Manager :-P

[Edit: roughly 70%, 45%, 25%, 20%, gpu at 100% while playing]

Sauf
05-06-2011, 04:20 PM
I use Core temp for CPU, and GPU observer(win7 gadget) or EVGA precision for Graphics.

Kakashi
05-06-2011, 05:13 PM
I use MSI Afterburner for gpu usage - it's a custom version of RivaTuner and works on almost all cards (doesn't have to be MSI). It also allows adjustment of the clock rates, voltage and fan profile, depending on model. For cpu usage I use Task Manager :-P

All right dude thanks for quick answer I really apreciate it and will look into it next time I fly in this game.
Now when you say you use task manager I have to wonder: is it really acurate?!! And is there a specific way to use it?! Cause what I do with it is just pop it on in the performance page (all CPUs in one single graphs instead of all 4 in seperate quadrants) then play the game for a couple minutes then press the windows key to check it out.

The reason I doubt its accuracy is that it will show me a 63% (or so) spike when I return to desktop for about half a second (if that) but the graph before and after that shows me that the CPU is being used at only 40% !!!!!!! (maybe 45 tops) That can't possibly be right right?!

Kakashi
05-06-2011, 05:24 PM
I use Core temp for CPU, and GPU observer(win7 gadget) or EVGA precision for Graphics.

Using core temp for CPU, how do you get a graph? do you pretty much check it out with the window on top of the game or something?

Sauf
05-06-2011, 05:35 PM
Srry Kakashi, I didnt explain properly, I run 2 screens and there is a core temp gadget addon that shows all cores % usage as well as temps and ram %

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/addons.html

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Kakashi
05-06-2011, 05:40 PM
Srry Kakashi, I didnt explain properly, I run 2 screens and there is a core temp gadget addon that shows all cores % usage as well as temps and ram %

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/addons.html

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All right buddy this was unacceptable I shall not excuse you for this !!!

Kidding thanks for your help i'll be testing that right away have a nice one :)

(PS: how much is your CPU being used, I would be interested in knowing as a reference to the values I am about to obtain :) )

squidgyb
05-06-2011, 05:43 PM
This guy's gadgets are awesome - though one or two features don't work for me (could be that the GPU gadget requires rivatuner or something to display GPU core speed, for example) and can show temp graphs if you run coretemp too.

EVGA Precision will do the same job as MSI Afterburner, but I think the latter might have more features - I haven't used it for a while. Precision can show many graphs, I use it mainly for the fps graph, but it does overclocking the GPU too.

http://www.myfavoritegadgets.info/

Here's the corner of my desktop, with GPUZ and CPUZ running as well:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/SquidgyB/Untitled-3-1.jpg

e: I should point out that I've been changing the clocks/HT settings a bit since I entered my sig on 1c forums.

Sauf
05-06-2011, 05:53 PM
Just did a quick test in france free flight (109) and core "0" max's @ 48% (spikes, generally in low 40's high 30's), the rest of the cores are all being used but never seem to get over 30%. I currently have affinity mask disabled (per a beta performance thread) was running it at 14 but havent had a chance try affinity again and compare them yet.

Kakashi
05-06-2011, 05:56 PM
I am a noob when it comes to all this, and how much of the hardware should actually being used while gaming... but shouldn't it be closer to 100%? instead of being close to zero?

I don't mean to insult the devs, I'm sure they'll sort it out eventually. But 40% is extremely low isn't it? (If it is that would be good, it would mean that when all problems are fixed my comp would run this game better :D)

Sauf
05-06-2011, 06:06 PM
Mate I'm no guru myself, there are ppl on this thread who can explain a lot better than me, but yeah at the moment I think GPU is the bottle neck for me, that being said I remember it took 4 years or so till the tech caught up with 1946 and I could turn water=4 in config, tbh I'm happy to be in at the start, though I do go through stages of anger and disappointment at times, but that just might be the piss talking.

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15JG52_Brauer
05-06-2011, 06:15 PM
If you have a single core you would expect 100% utilisation, but multi cores and multi threading are far more complex - you have to run seperate threads for different parts of the game, but they may have dependencies on other threads, so may stop while waiting for input from something else on another core that has not finished. There will be a limit to how many threads can be split out before you actually slow things down - kind of like how SLI/crossfire does not scale to 300% with 3 cards - there is a law of diminishing returns. The devs are working to improve things, but dont expect a quad core to be automaticaly using twice as much cpu power as a dual core. Also it depends on resolution - at high res the GPU may be maxed out - so the cpu is actually waiting for the gpu before it can crunch more data - while at low res the GPU is not maxed out and will therefore call for more from your cpu (assuming vsync is not enabled).

BigPickle
05-06-2011, 06:21 PM
i re-enabled processaffinity mask to 14 and got at least 7 - 10 fps back

squidgyb
05-06-2011, 06:27 PM
In all honesty I doubt that it's the GPU - or the CPU, in an odd way. I have a tendency to go off on tangents while trying to explain something I think I understand, so try to bear with me...

It's mainly the CPU, but in most cases just turning up the CPU won't help you beyond a certain point - the same is to be said by the GPU. There are a lot of... knots... in the code - think of it like a huge machine that has been having wire upon cable upon wire plugged into it day after day, for, well, 4-5 years. These cables get tangled, and what the devs are currently doing is untangling the cables.

If the cables were all straight and laid out perfectly in parallel, all cores on a PC could run 100% as the "machine" is being supplied constantly from all the cables.

Ah, I'm a little bit drunk on a Friday night and I fear that I'm becoming as nonsensical as raaaid (sorry raaaid, I love you but sometimes you make littel to no sense!).

What I'm trying to say is that if the code gets all straightened out, and all the loops, dud ends, and "knots" get cleaned out, then it should use as much of the cpu as it can. Because it's a complex beast, and has to do a hell of a lot of calculations, in parallel, and provide the results of those calculations to the GPU, so it in turn can make sense of the results and show them in a pretty display on the screen for you. In reality it will never use 100% of every system in any given PC, because some part of it will hold the other bits back. Which part does this will depend on the quality settings in the nvidia control panel and CoD, the speed of your CPU/GPU, background processes, and a myriad of other things.

There's a lot going on in there, you know.

Kakashi
05-06-2011, 07:10 PM
Well you do seem to be making some sense still thanks for all the clarification, I actually have a quad core Q9000 @ 2000Mhz combined with a pretty descent Nvidia 9800m GTX 18months ago which seems now (along with my cpu) to be severily outdated today... I still think that 35 to 40% CPU usage is still extremely low despite your information (which you noobified quite nicely to my understanding). Anyway only time will tell I think :)

What about other quad core users? Are your CPUs also being used so poorly? please post your data so I can have an idea :)

EDIT: Lol at your Raaaid comment :D

Rattlehead
05-06-2011, 09:02 PM
http://www.myfavoritegadgets.info/


I just downloaded and tried System Monitor 2 and Gpu Monitor...pretty nifty little programs.
Gpu monitor shows my card to be running at over 90% most of the time, but strangely when watching tracks it can run as low as 30%, which I find odd, especially as performance doesn't seem to suffer. (?)

Kakashi
05-06-2011, 09:08 PM
I just downloaded and tried System Monitor 2 and Gpu Monitor...pretty nifty little programs.
Gpu monitor shows my card to be running at over 90% most of the time, but strangely when watching tracks it can run as low as 30%, which I find odd, especially as performance doesn't seem to suffer. (?)

Well I guess in the track you got the user's input controls which is out of the equation, so there are no surprises.

dougandtoni
05-06-2011, 09:26 PM
Lol . You guys amaze me. You wonder why you are having problems running the game so you go and install all this software that runs in the background to check why your game is not running well lol. Out of all those gadgets on that link you would be better of to install the Top Process Monitor so you guys could see how much crap you have running. I have zero problems running the game with everything set in the graphics options as high as they will go. To get the ball rolling i am running Windows 7 x64 and have 24 Processes running when i am playing IL2 Cod.Tell us your amount





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Kakashi
05-06-2011, 09:33 PM
Lol . You guys amaze me. You wonder why you are having problems running the game so you go and install all this software that runs in the background to check why your game is not running well lol. Out of all those gadgets on that link you would be better of to install the Top Process Monitor so you guys could see how much crap you have running. I have zero problems running the game with everything set in the graphics options as high as they will go. To get the ball rolling i am running Windows 7 x64 and have 24 Processes running when i am playing IL2 Cod.Tell us your amount





Asus Rampage III Formula
Intel Core i7-950
6GB Memory
GTX580

Well I don't play the game with all this monitoring but I do believe it is not a bad thing to check every now and then how much of the hardware is actually being used...

This software your mentioning though, does it help you get rid of all the things running in the background which you do not need?! I ll look into that

Rattlehead
05-06-2011, 09:46 PM
To get the ball rolling i am running Windows 7 x64 and have 24 Processes running when i am playing IL2 Cod.Tell us your amount


21 processes. 'Lol'.

Troll2k
05-06-2011, 09:59 PM
Alacrity PC is a program that will turn off unnecessary processes for gaming.
It used to be called FS Autostart.

http://alacritypc.kensalter.com/download.html

dougandtoni
05-06-2011, 10:24 PM
21 processes. 'Lol'.

Good skills :grin:

Eckhart
05-07-2011, 12:54 AM
http://www.aida64.com/product/aida64-extreme-edition/overview

great little program which appears on my G19 LCD: I get a real-time surveillance without cluttering my screen:-)