Historical HakenKreuz

[BrassEm]

Hello,

Thanks to Kegety's sfs mod it is possible to have a historically correct HakenKreuz overlay any skin selected for the particular aircraft used. The Kreuz has been added to the default stencil set texture M-overlay0.dds as enabled by the mod. Obviously you will need to install the sfs mod for the Kreuz to work. To remove the Kreuz delete the file for the particular aircraft. There is a readme file included in each zip. As new files for a particular aircraft are created they will be added to this list. If 1c can make use of these files then I approve of it. It is purely made to make the game better. Please note that this is only a temporary measure until the proper decal system can be used, if included in the SDK. It is a mod so don't use for online combat.

https://rapidshare.com/files/458726338/Bf-108B-2.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458726353/Bf-109E-3.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458726362/Bf-109E-3B.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458726436/Bf-110C-4.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458726462/Bf-110C-7.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/459196887/Ju-87B-2.zip ### Revised 26/04/11
https://rapidshare.com/files/458772884/Do-17Z-1.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458772904/Do-17Z-2.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458788556/Do-215B-1.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458788552/FW-200C-1.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458788533/He-111H-2.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458870128/He-111P-2.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458870244/He-115B-2.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/458870224/Ju-88A-1.zip


http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbec9fd/n/Bf-108B-2.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbec9f5/n/Bf-109E-3.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbec902/n/Bf-109E-3B.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbec918/n/Bf-110C-4.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbec936/n/Bf-110C-7.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbe977a/n/Ju-87B-2.zip ### Revised 26/04/11
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbee53f/n/Do-17Z-1.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbee531/n/Do-17Z-2.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbefaf7/n/Do-215B-1.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbefa0f/n/FW-200C-1.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbefa04/n/He-111H-2.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbe065e/n/He-111P-2.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbe0675/n/He-115B-2.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbe069d/n/Ju-88A-1.zip


REVISIONS;
Ju-87B-2 Kruez position lowered. (Many thanks to BOBC for pointing this out.)


The Full directory (33MB); Excludes Revised Files.

https://rapidshare.com/files/458874922/HK.zip
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cbe0856/n/HK.zip

(If installed correctly the directory path should look something like... C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\HK\$bob\3do\Plane... with the aircraft directories branching off that.)

References;
Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings 1933-1945 Vol 1 & 2
K.A. Merrick with Jurgen Kiroff
ISBN 1-903223-38-5

Junkers Ju87
Stukageschwader of North Africa and the Mediterranean
John Weal
ISBN 1-85532-722-8

Dornier Bombers and Reconnaissance Aircraft 1925-1945
Manfred Griehl
ISBN 1-85409-000-3

Cheers,

[41Sqn_Stormcrow]

And get banned ... :)

[BrassEm]

For...

[ElAurens]

VAC violation on Steam.

Messing with the file structure will do it.

[BrassEm]

VAC violation on Steam.

Messing with the file structure will do it.

Like 1946 mods in old Il-2? I have posted and await the official word from 1c if I am banned or not.

[Buchon]

The team clearly stated that the mod support is not ready yet (SDK), so the VALVE anti-cheat (VAC) will assume this modification has potential cheat due the files access modification.

If you use this offline there no problem, but joining servers with this you can be banned by VAC, atm.

Before I get more into the patch, I want to discuss the sfs – mod situation a bit. First of all, the data you’re accessing was never intended to be hidden from the user, but rather accessible as part of our larger plans for SDKs and user mods and expansions. It’s just we planned to open it up ourselves eventually, once the SDK was ready, but our enterprising fans found a way to do it earlier.

Most importantly, I need to mention something about Valve anti-cheat. Valve has their standard feature running on top of multiplayer, and we have some of our own additional checks. The way it works is not an automatic immediate server ban, but rather a data-gathering and review process resulting in eventual account ban from all multiplayer for the game.

So while many of you may enjoy playing around with game content, please do so offline. We do not yet have the user interface for switching between modified and stock files, nor do we have the server GUI to allow/disallow custom content so that makes things a little more difficult for the players. We’re probably going to ignore any infractions before today, but we’ll become more aggressive in the coming days. Please be warned. There will be a wide-scale account ban once we identify a large number of culprits. Everyone will be banned simultaneously, with no prior warning or chance for redemption. If you do not wish to be made an example of, please do not use ANY modified files in any online matches.

After all, cracking the game is against the EULA and theoretically we could ban everyone who has ever tried any mod, but that of course would serve no purpose. Once again, we do not mind you fiddling with your own game on your own machine, as long as you don’t use that ability to try to give yourself an unfair advantage online.


Its just to early to do this, there will be mods for this, just be patient.

[BrassEm]

Good post Buchon, Thank You.

When were they ever ready? If UBI didn't push we would still be waiting.

I am enjoying my flying with Historically Correct aircraft.

[JG1_Luckystrike]

thank u very much BrassEm!

[ElAurens]

Like 1946 mods in old Il-2? I have posted and await the official word from 1c if I am banned or not.

You won't get any notice.

Steam will keep info on players for some period of time, then have one general ban of a large number of players at once, with no chance of revocation of your account.

I'm not saying that what you are doing is wrong on the face of it, but Steam does not care what you or I or anyone else thinks. They have a zero tolerance policy and they enforce it.

I hope you don't get a perma ban.

[hanuristi]

If they ban you for something like that, then its time to call your lawyer (or at least return the game and get your money back if you bought it retail). It would even be against the Steam agreement, it says you can get banned for "unfair competitive advantage" and having a realistic insignia on the tail of the plane hardly does any of that.

[ElAurens]

Remember, Steam is mostly about FPS games. In FPS games skins can be used to confer advantage. As VAC knows no difference between an FPS and a Flight Sim it won't know the difference between hack to put decals on a plane and a hack to make all your opponents appear hot pink. (This was done in IL2, if you remember).

You all wanted Steam so bad.

Now live with it.

[Thee_oddball]

According to Atoras ALL ACCEPTED! mods will be programed into VAC so the user does not get kicked

[BOBC]

BrassEm.
Many thanks, aircraft dont look incomplete and silly. Historically correct is what I fly.
Steam agreement, it says you can get banned for "unfair competitive advantage" and having a realistic insignia on the tail of the plane hardly does any of that.
As I dont fly online, and I fly in the UK where freedom of historical accuracy is allowed, we did fight WW2 for freedom and free speech, and won !...will using these mods be ok, or will Steam still stop such players. Are they only after online users ?

I havent purchased it yet, so how will they know, do they access ones PC and see what mods are on it ? Thats intrusion of privacy.

That symbol wouldnt get a seconds thought by users, its just there, the people that fly sims dont care, its part of the accurate scheme, but all this hoo ha about it in fact advertises it, makes a mountain out of a molehill and may just cause bad thoughts where none existed in the minds of the easily led. I still cant see its existence on a tailfin causing a resurgence in naziism though, whole things ridiculous. The action of some petty bureaucrat with a pen and nothing better to do, and unable to fine tune his writings to only apply the rule to cases where it does matter. UK allows it, we dont see problems here at all from its use in flight sims, hasn't warped minds yet.

Good on you BrassEm, sim looks far better for it, now I will buy it.

What controls have we over size and position ?

BOBC

[ChrisDNT]

Nobody's regreting Hyperlobby ?

I do.

[BrassEm]

Hello BOBC,

Only what's in the .dds files at the moment. Hoping 1C will open up the decal system - then it will be fully customisable.

Cheers,

[EDIT: Noted your comment in another forum. Will double check on scans for position again. The reference to the Ju-87 is circa 1942 as posted, and from photo's only. I do not trust profiles or line drawings.]

[Wolf_Rider]

BrassEm.

That symbol wouldnt get a seconds thought by users, its just there, the people that fly sims dont care, its part of the accurate scheme, but all this hoo ha about it in fact advertises it, makes a mountain out of a molehill and may just cause bad thoughts where none existed in the minds of the easily led. I still cant see its existence on a tailfin causing a resurgence in naziism though, whole things ridiculous. The action of some petty bureaucrat with a pen and nothing better to do, and unable to fine tune his writings to only apply the rule to cases where it does matter. UK allows it, we dont see problems here at all from its use in flight sims, hasn't warped minds yet.





mum, who mother was caught up in WWII events, looks in what the offspring is running on screen and lo and behold - has a fit because of what she sees on screen... guess which petty vote seeking bureaucrat gets hassled to fix it, before her mother finds out and has a real fit????

[BrassEm]

mum, who mother was caught up in WWII events, looks in what the offspring is running on screen and lo and behold - has a fit because of what she sees on screen... guess which petty vote seeking bureaucrat gets hassled to fix it, before her mother finds out and has a real fit????

Really Wolf,

You had to post that????

[Wolf_Rider]

< looking coy > yes :)

[TeeJay82]

Well.... we have historical guns modelled in all kind games, we have historical warmachines modelled in all kind games, we have historical symbols modelled in all kind games like the "devils pentagram". so what the h*ll is so bad with the swastica/hakencruz compared to all this?

as long as all the other countrys got theyre markings on em fully detailed... why not the luftwaffe? this policy disgust me

Awesome Mod BrassEm :) thank you very much

[seiseki]

So.. making a concentration camp simulation is fine, as long as you don't include swastikas?

Strange priorities..
Why ban such a symbol in a historical environment, when the actual acts of the nazi regime hasn't been censored?
I mean seeing Hitler speaking to a crowd, or ss soldiers executing jews would be far more upsetting than seeing a swastika, yet the swastika is banned..

Actually, now that I think about it, I remember hearing some guy in Germany who got arrested for having a hitler speech as a ringtone..
How ironic considering the side fighting for freedom of speech and democracy won..

[41Sqn_Stormcrow]

I believe that the swastica is not ingame as it is forbidden in some countries.

Some people argue that forbidding this is against freedom of speech. While it may be so one should not forget that it was freedom of speech that allowed Hitler to raise to power in the first place. The democracy of Weimar allowed him spilling his hatred, working openly to the very destruction of this democracy and finally achieving it. After the war many countries and particularly Germany decided to build a democracy that is capable to fight those who want the destruction of democracy as a lesson drawn from the years 33 to 45. One measure was to forbid the symbol behind which the Nazis gathered in an effort to make this symbol no longer a working tool for the Nazis as the Nazis knew about the force of symbols very well. This symbol stands for death on an unpreceded scale.

[ElAurens]

It is illegal in Germany, and now the Russian Federation, to show the swastika outside of historical uses, I.E. in a history book, or historic film footage, etc...

Video games come under the heading of toys in both countrys and that is why they are not included in this sim.

Arguing here won't fix it.

Take it up with the German and Russian governments.

[FG28_Kodiak]

The Allies forbidden the use of the swastika in germany after the war. Later it was adopted by german law.

[BOBC]

Toy is the problem, being categorised as a toy sees this rule apply, one must not see swastikas on toys, quite right, if they are nothing to do with recreating a historical item, but the classification of a flight simulation that is designed to be an accurate (in theory) recreation on screen of the Battle of Britain, a recreation of an historical event, as a toy is wrong. The developers could have had an accurate looking sim Luftwaffe wise if they had pulled this out of the toy category. I dont see children being able to afford latest spec PC's with 1Gb video cards so as to play with a toy. If re-classification is possible as something other than toy then do it. Perhaps all flight sims are auto labelled as toys, an airliner flight sim is a toy. Is anything that a child can get to play with, a toy ? or get to read ? If they pick up daddies WW2 book and see a Luftwaffe aircraft in it, then the book worlds must re-categorise their books as childrens books. The rule is simply nuts. The vast majority of flight simmers are not children. The vast majority of book readers of WW2 are not children, let the same rules apply.

BOBC

[Sternjaeger II]

..it's the law guys, get over it :rolleyes:

I do model kits in my spare times and Revell of Germany doesn't put swastikas in their kits.. it's silly, it's not by forbidding a symbol that you stop an ideology, neo-nazis are out there regardless of your swastikas on your plane..

[HamishUK]

Toy is the problem, being categorised as a toy sees this rule apply, one must not see swastikas on toys, quite right, if they are nothing to do with recreating a historical item, but the classification of a flight simulation that is designed to be an accurate (in theory) recreation on screen of the Battle of Britain, a recreation of an historical event, as a toy is wrong. The developers could have had an accurate looking sim Luftwaffe wise if they had pulled this out of the toy category. I dont see children being able to afford latest spec PC's with 1Gb video cards so as to play with a toy. If re-classification is possible as something other than toy then do it. Perhaps all flight sims are auto labelled as toys, an airliner flight sim is a toy. Is anything that a child can get to play with, a toy ? or get to read ? If they pick up daddies WW2 book and see a Luftwaffe aircraft in it, then the book worlds must re-categorise their books as childrens books. The rule is simply nuts. The vast majority of flight simmers are not children. The vast majority of book readers of WW2 are not children, let the same rules apply.

BOBC

What's the point in even discussing it?

[Jaws2002]

You can put swastika on the skins and be done with it, without having to use a hack to do it.
It takes 5 minutes to add swastika on a skin.

You won't be able to use them on the default skins, but with time, once the SDK is released, we will be able to use something like the Mat Manager to do it legally, without having to rely on hacks and worry about a ban.

[Jaws2002]

Toy is the problem, being categorised as a toy sees this rule apply, one must not see swastikas on toys, quite right, if they are nothing to do with recreating a historical item, but the classification of a flight simulation that is designed to be an accurate (in theory) recreation on screen of the Battle of Britain, a recreation of an historical event, as a toy is wrong....


Dude, look at this for a second:

http://www.1cpublishing.eu/data/games/3873/5654_Il-2%20Sturmovic%20Cliffs%20of%20Dover-packshot.jpg

Do you know what that Pegi16 means. It means this GAME is perfectly legal for children sixteen and up.
As much as you try to think this is something else, it still is nothing but a GAME.
Get used to it. I have the two awesome FW-190 addons for FSX and those too came without a swastika. Games are considered toys by the law and this one is no different.

[Sternjaeger II]

guys, the swastika is forbidden PERIOD, doesn't matter if it's a game, a uniform or your grandma's hand knitted scarf..

[Wutz]

Ah the old topic again! How about the markings for Tomania?
http://www.lexikon.der-nationen.de/images/thumb/f/fc/Tomanien_w.png/100px-Tomanien_w.png
http://blog.knecht-rootrecht.org/wp-content/uploads/great_dictator21.jpg

[Kongo-Otto]

Ah the old topic again! How about the markings for Tomania?
http://www.lexikon.der-nationen.de/images/thumb/f/fc/Tomanien_w.png/100px-Tomanien_w.png
http://blog.knecht-rootrecht.org/wp-content/uploads/great_dictator21.jpg

Why not, there are the markings from
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/m_7e7549fd4b1e4f0d8701038bc966bc84.jpg
Benzino Napoloni (http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/m_7e7549fd4b1e4f0d8701038bc966bc84.jpg) already in the game. :grin::grin::grin:

[DoolittleRaider]

I don't have COD yet....but thanks for creating more historically accurate skins.

I will point out that the JU-87 skins should have the Balkenkreuzen with the wide white 'borders', just like your Bf 109 Blakenkreuzen...not the thin pre-war, pre-BofB narrow white bordering.

S!

EDIT: Sorry. I now understand that you have only added the Hakenkreuzen to the default skins...on which 1C used the incorrect Balkenkreuzen. I guess we'll have to wait for 3rd party skins made from scratch to correct the historical inaccuracies.

[BrassEm]

EDIT: Sorry. I now understand that you have only added the Hakenkreuzen to the default skins...on which 1C used the incorrect Balkenkreuzen. I guess we'll have to wait for 3rd party skins made from scratch to correct the historical inaccuracies.

The BalkenKreuz decals appear to be easier to change in theory because their locations are defined by a .mrk file associated with a corresponding geschwader. Would you have references for the Kreuz markings and locations?

Cheers,

[DoolittleRaider]

Lots of profiles here...page 2 and 3 are roughly the BofB timeframe. You'll also see here the earlier thin-bordered HK's of '39 and early '40.

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/b/29/2

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

I changed the german/italian flag to a more historical one:

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7514/unbenanntax.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/unbenanntax.jpg/)

Download Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KPXGQZXU


Just extract to ...\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\core\GUI\Army and overwrite the old file.

[Rocka]

While I do appreciate historical correctness I thought this game was about flying...
Just looking at the topic makes me smile...Historical Hakenkreuz...why is half the sentence in english and the other half in german? Trying to hide something here are we?

Call it what it is: Historical Nazi markings, and half the world goes -Oh MY GOD Noooo!!!

[DoolittleRaider]

Historische hakenkreuz.... Better?

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

While I do appreciate historical correctness I thought this game was about flying...
Just looking at the topic makes me smile...Historical Hakenkreuz...why is half the sentence in english and the other half in german? Trying to hide something here are we?

Call it what it is: Historical Nazi markings, and half the world goes -Oh MY GOD Noooo!!!

Following your logic you should go further then! Nazi is the german abrevation for followers of the Nationalsozialismus the correct thread name should then be "Historical national socialist followers markings" as there is no original abrevation for nazi in english :rolleyes:

[FlushMeister]

I'm not a nazi, rivet counter or history nerd at all but I think the Swastika completes the marking-composition of the axis aircraft, but i can understand if 1c doesn't want to use it, after all russia lost like 24 million lives because of that war, so people are of course sensetive...

[DoolittleRaider]

Nazi is an abbreviated short term for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (“National Socialist German Workers’ Party”). It is not an acronym; it is a phonetic spelling of the pronunciation of the first two 'syllables':Na-Ti

This short term, Nazi, is and was used more often in English rather than in German, in which the acronym NSDAP was used.

I would be interested to know from any German 1C community member with relatives who lived in Germany in the 30's and 40's if the term "Na-ti" (Nazi) was used widely, or used at all, by Germans.


Nazi Swastika is "English"
NSDAP Hakenkreuz is German

[ATAG_Dutch]

Correct. Churchill actually pronounced it 'Nahzzees' as in 'Hitler's Nahzzees'.

With an English Z pronunciation rather than the German 'ts'. :)

[Rocka]

Historische hakenkreuz.... Better?

/applaud for you sir for the ability to use google translate!

And yes that is better.

Still it is kinda funny that some grumpy old guys in here goes rambling all over the place while trying to defend their right to use these Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei markings (i wonder why people use the short term Nazi, when they can write that peerlessly "short" sentence), when the majority of the threads in this forum is about how to even get the game running on their computers.

But I guess the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei markings is THAT important.

[DoolittleRaider]

/applaud for you sir for the ability to use google translate!
...


I don't know whether you are being offensive intentionally or not. In either event, I seldom use Google Translate.

I do, however, use certain translation apps and web sites for extensive translations or unusual words/phrases...and certainly for less commonly encountered languages.

Just for the record, though I may be rusty in some, I do speak/write/understand German, Russian, Japanese, Chinese (Mandarin),Spanish, some Italian, some Thai (speak, but not read).

...and...I don't consider myself a grumpy old man. :)

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

I would be interested to know from any German 1C community member with relatives who lived in Germany in the 30's and 40's if the term "Na-ti" (Nazi) was used widely, or used at all, by Germans.

Nazi Look up Nazi at Dictionary.com
1930, from Ger. Nazi, abbreviation of German pronunciation of Nationalsozialist (based on earlier Ger. sozi, popular abbreviaton of "socialist"), from Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei "National Socialist German Workers' Party," led by Hitler from 1920. The 24th edition of Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache (2002) says the word Nazi was favored in southern Germany (supposedly from c.1924) among opponents of National Socialism because the nickname Nazi (from the masc. proper name Ignatz, German form of Ignatius) was used colloquially to mean "a foolish person, clumsy or awkward person." Ignatz was a popular name in Catholic Austria, and according to one source in WWI Nazi was a generic name in the German Empire for the soldiers of Austria-Hungary. An older use of Nazi for national-sozial is attested in German from 1903, but EWdS does not think it contributed to the word as applied to Hitler and his followers. The NSDAP for a time attempted to adopt the Nazi designation as what the Germans call a "despite-word," but they gave this up, and the NSDAP is said to have generally avoided the term. Before 1930, party members had been called in English National Socialists, which dates from 1923. The use of Nazi Germany, Nazi regime, etc., was popularized by German exiles abroad. From them, it spread into other languages, and eventually was brought back to Germany, after the war. In the USSR, the terms national socialist and Nazi were said to have been forbidden after 1932, presumably to avoid any taint to the good word socialist. Soviet literature refers to fascists.



Source: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Nazi

[Pluto]

Why not, there are the markings from
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/m_7e7549fd4b1e4f0d8701038bc966bc84.jpg
Benzino Napoloni (http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/81/m_7e7549fd4b1e4f0d8701038bc966bc84.jpg) already in the game. :grin::grin::grin:

... great movie, like it a lot, watched it many times!
:-P

[Pluto]

.... swastikas on german planes or on medals like the iron cross is a must!
Thats how they looked at the time!

Apart from Germans, noone has to bother about legal conflicts anyway.
Only german governments are so psychotic about that subject.

Besides, governments should fear their population, not the other way around!


....(but that is just my opinion,....)
:twisted:

[Bobb4]

Not going to argue the merits of this one way or another.
Just want to point out that Cliffs of Dover is not VAC protected.
If it was then a Vac logo would have to be displayed and a clear warning as well.
Cannot ban someone for something you have not warned him not to do...
Basically the law in most countries :rolleyes:
As stated no VAC notice, means no ban :grin:

[Wutz]

Nazi is an abbreviated short term for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (“National Socialist German Workers’ Party”). It is not an acronym; it is a phonetic spelling of the pronunciation of the first two 'syllables':Na-Ti

This short term, Nazi, is and was used more often in English rather than in German, in which the acronym NSDAP was used.

I would be interested to know from any German 1C community member with relatives who lived in Germany in the 30's and 40's if the term "Na-ti" (Nazi) was used widely, or used at all, by Germans.


Nazi Swastika is "English"
NSDAP Hakenkreuz is German
I am from Germany, and my grandfather fought on the German side in WWII but I never heard of the term "Na-ti" where did you get that from? The term "Nazi" was used also in Germany but more as a insult, for those trying to be 150% like the NSDAP wanted.

[DoolittleRaider]

Phonetically, the pronunciation of the first two syllables, Na and ti, would not be Nah-Tee, but rather Nah-Tseh or Nah-Tsee

You can hear it here (be patient, it might take a LONG time to load):
http://tts.imtranslator.net/Fp5I
or http://tts.imtranslator.net/Fp4s

Hence: Nazi (phonetically Nah-Tsee)

[Extreme_One]

Not going to argue the merits of this one way or another.
Just want to point out that Cliffs of Dover is not VAC protected.
If it was then a Vac logo would have to be displayed and a clear warning as well.
Cannot ban someone for something you have not warned him not to do...
Basically the law in most countries :rolleyes:
As stated no VAC notice, means no ban :grin:

Are you sure about that?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Extreme_One/VAC.jpg

[NET]
speed=25000
localPort=27015
serverName=My Server
serverDescription=IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover
serverInfo1=
serverInfo2=
serverInfo3=
serverInfo4=
VAC=1
maxPlayers=16
socksEnable=0
socksHost=
socksPort=1080
socksUser=
socksPwd=
localHost=

[Sven]

Another one bites the dust ;)

[Wutz]

Phonetically, the pronunciation of the first two syllables, Na and ti, would not be Nah-Tee, but rather Nah-Tseh or Nah-Tsee

You can hear it here (be patient, it might take a LONG time to load):
http://tts.imtranslator.net/Fp5I
or http://tts.imtranslator.net/Fp4s

Hence: Nazi (phonetically Nah-Tsee)
That might be what they have in the books, but on the streets the term "Nah-Tseh".....that is just to give a clue how it is pronounced even though spellt differantly.

[DoolittleRaider]

That might be what they have in the books, but on the streets the term "Nah-Tseh".....that is just to give a clue how it is pronounced even though spellt differantly.

That's what I said...

ahhhh...fugeddaboutit

[Bobb4]

Are you sure about that?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Extreme_One/VAC.jpg
Holy whats it...
I click play and all other games I play on steam give you a warning screen saying vac enabled. Even the servers say vac enable or disabled?
The fact that Clod servers do not indicate this means it would be near impossible to ban someone from a legal standpoint.
Will not argue that it is not enabled, it is just not acting as it should and is definately not being enforced.
But nice find and thanks for the heads up :grin:
Ps I did not buy a steam version. And I have an icon that takes me straight to game.

[robtek]

........Ps I did not buy a steam version. And I have an icon that takes me straight to game.

Doesn't matter, if not put into offline mode the game still connects to steam on startup.

[Ze-Jamz]

Doesn't matter, if not put into offline mode the game still connects to steam on startup.

I think whats hes getting at is that he doesnt have to look at that screen shot posted which is indeed in Steam..yes it connects to Steam when he plays Online but he wouldnt see anything about VAC...

It needs to be seen..VAC needs to be shown whether its on the boot screen, menu etc..how would you know otherwise?..because some dude posted it on a forum...that wouldnt stand in court im afraid

[Liz Lemon]

Have fun bringing that case to court. You agree to the EULA when you purchase the game, and that EULA stipulates that VAC bans will take place if there are signs of modding the game to gain an unfair advantage, but only in online play.

So, don't play the game online from the shortcut used to load the mods, and you'll be fine. Run the game from its regular executable and there is no risk of getting a VAC ban, since no mods are loaded.

(And even if you played with mods like this one enable online by accident, I doubt you'll be banned. But thats a whole different discussion.)

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Top work BrassEm,all these mods are giving us the sim,we the community want,so now we've got the correct looking aircraft,the correct weapon sounds and engine sounds on their way,woot,the sim is starting to evolve guys!;)

[skouras]

Top work BrassEm,all these mods are giving us the sim,we the community want,so now we've got the correct looking aircraft,the correct weapon sounds and engine sounds on their way,woot,the sim is starting to evolve guys!;)

angree:grin: