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Srinidhalaya
04-20-2011, 10:51 PM
Asus P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Sandy Bridge 1155 i7 2600k quadcore @ 3.4ghz
8gig DDR3 @ 1600mhz Coasir RAM
3tb Hitachi HDD @ 6gig/sec
Asus 580gtx 1.5gig DDR5 Nvidia
Antec 1200w PSU OC edition
Antec 1200 tower with additional 120mm fan side mount
Windows 7 64bit Pro

All stock speeds, no overclocking

ALL settings max ASSO (i think thats what its called) is OFF
Resolution 1900x1080

Diving with fixed view position over london it drops to around 70fps
If I use free look with the mouse it drops to about 50-60, and if I jerk left to right as fast as I can it drops to about 20

Diving and dogfight over english channal remains above 100fps up to 120. Free look with mouse is about 80fps, and jerking left to right fast drops to about 45.


The game at these settings running this smooth preforms well beyond my expectations, and I am very satisfied. I am really looking forward to more performance increase's for other players because everyone should really be able to experience this game at these settings, although I'm sure not everyone will.

My rig was built in anticipation for Battlefield 3, but CoD is definatly staying installed.

I will add a 30 second clip taken by fraps, recorded at 60fps. Fraps reports the frame rate on the video, but it differs from the report above slightly because its external view. I will try to get some other video's uploaded soon as well.

Salute!

Codex
04-20-2011, 11:15 PM
I'd suggest running the BlackDeath track with Fraps recording the FPS rate

GOZR
04-20-2011, 11:48 PM
The secret weapon Resolution 1900x1080 and not 1920x1200 ;) But great to see that and you enjoy the sim..

lbuchele
04-21-2011, 03:48 AM
Asus P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Sandy Bridge 1155 i7 2600k quadcore @ 3.4ghz
8gig DDR3 @ 1600mhz Coasir RAM
3tb Hitachi HDD @ 6gig/sec
Asus 580gtx 1.5gig DDR5 Nvidia
Antec 1200w PSU OC edition
Antec 1200 tower with additional 120mm fan side mount
Windows 7 64bit Pro

All stock speeds, no overclocking

ALL settings max ASSO (i think thats what its called) is OFF
Resolution 1900x1080

Diving with fixed view position over london it drops to around 70fps
If I use free look with the mouse it drops to about 50-60, and if I jerk left to right as fast as I can it drops to about 20

Diving and dogfight over english channal remains above 100fps up to 120. Free look with mouse is about 80fps, and jerking left to right fast drops to about 45.


The game at these settings running this smooth preforms well beyond my expectations, and I am very satisfied. I am really looking forward to more performance increase's for other players because everyone should really be able to experience this game at these settings, although I'm sure not everyone will.

My rig was built in anticipation for Battlefield 3, but CoD is definatly staying installed.

I will add a 30 second clip taken by fraps, recorded at 60fps. Fraps reports the frame rate on the video, but it differs from the report above slightly because its external view. I will try to get some other video's uploaded soon as well.

Salute!

I have the same experience,except that over cities I rarely have below 30fps.
22 is the lowest but only for 1-2 sec.
I can dogfight over cities between 40-65 fps.
All settings very high SSAO off.

JG14_Jagr
04-21-2011, 05:20 AM
I'd suggest running the BlackDeath track with Fraps recording the FPS rate

The Black Death track runs smooth on my rig.. Should be relatively similar on his.. although he should be up around 4 Gig with that CPU at a minimum.

W0ef
04-21-2011, 10:02 AM
The game at these settings running this smooth preforms well beyond my expectations, and I am very satisfied. I am really looking forward to more performance increase's for other players because everyone should really be able to experience this game at these settings, although I'm sure not everyone will.



The game with your system better run good dude, it is absolute top of the line right now. How much did it set you back? At least 1.5k$ I reckon. You cannot honestly expect everyone to get a rig like this. Mind me, my system which I started building especially to run this game isn´t shoddy either, but we can hardly use the fact we upgraded to the latest and greatest as a benchmark for the state this game is in.

p.s. I wouldve gotten the 2500k instead of the 2600k, more bang for buck since Hyperthreading isn´t supported by any game in the market these days :P

Srinidhalaya
04-22-2011, 11:15 PM
The secret weapon Resolution 1900x1080 and not 1920x1200 But great to see that and you enjoy the sim..

Typo, 1920x1080 I have fat finger syndrome; as that is my monitors preferred resolution. 23" samsung

I have the same experience,except that over cities I rarely have below 30fps.
22 is the lowest but only for 1-2 sec.
I can dogfight over cities between 40-65 fps.
All settings very high SSAO off.

It only dipped in FPS when jerking the mouse on free look from one extreme to the other. Other than that its pretty solid.

The Black Death track
Never heard of it...
although he should be up around 4 Gig with that CPU at a minimum.
The CPU actually will throttle up or down automatically to be as efficient as possible, I think it will go up to 3.8ghz on its own when needed, but I've never broken 50% cpu load with any game maxed, while surfing and media player going.

You cannot honestly expect everyone to get a rig like this.
This took a large portion of savings to do, considering my last rig was way out of date, and many of the games ahead I look forward to it just couldn't run. I bought this with the mind of not having to upgrade any time soon.

I wouldve gotten the 2500k instead of the 2600k, more bang for buck since Hyperthreading isn´t supported by any game in the market these days
2500k wasn't on the market when purchased, but even now I still would have gone with the 2600k.

Tymi
04-23-2011, 07:59 AM
Asus P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Sandy Bridge 1155 i7 2600k quadcore @ 3.4ghz
8gig DDR3 @ 1600mhz Coasir RAM
3tb Hitachi HDD @ 6gig/sec
Asus 580gtx 1.5gig DDR5 Nvidia
Antec 1200w PSU OC edition
Antec 1200 tower with additional 120mm fan side mount
Windows 7 64bit Pro

All stock speeds, no overclocking

ALL settings max ASSO (i think thats what its called) is OFF
Resolution 1900x1080

Diving with fixed view position over london it drops to around 70fps
If I use free look with the mouse it drops to about 50-60, and if I jerk left to right as fast as I can it drops to about 20

Diving and dogfight over english channal remains above 100fps up to 120. Free look with mouse is about 80fps, and jerking left to right fast drops to about 45.


The game at these settings running this smooth preforms well beyond my expectations, and I am very satisfied. I am really looking forward to more performance increase's for other players because everyone should really be able to experience this game at these settings, although I'm sure not everyone will.

My rig was built in anticipation for Battlefield 3, but CoD is definatly staying installed.

I will add a 30 second clip taken by fraps, recorded at 60fps. Fraps reports the frame rate on the video, but it differs from the report above slightly because its external view. I will try to get some other video's uploaded soon as well.

Salute!

Very interesting, my system is slightly older than your's and 2GB less memory, but when i fly over london (max settings) @ 1k feet my fps are around 18-22..
Is the Sandy Bridge really that much better ?

My system:
Core i7 920 @ 4GHz
6GB 1600MHz DDR3
Geforce GTX 580 1.5GB
WDC Caviar Black 1TB 7200 rpm
Windows 7 64-bit

senseispcc
04-23-2011, 08:18 AM
The Black Death track runs smooth on my rig.. Should be relatively similar on his.. although he should be up around 4 Gig with that CPU at a minimum.

At Lympne airfield and some time at Dover or other cities but only the first time I load a mission I see many flattend houses...

http://s3.postimage.org/2qbk8i9tw/shot_20110423_094510.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/2qbk8i9tw/)

Look right under the plane aft fuselage. FPS more than OK!

Have a nice game.

Rattlehead
04-23-2011, 10:59 AM
Very interesting, my system is slightly older than your's and 2GB less memory, but when i fly over london (max settings) @ 1k feet my fps are around 18-22..
Is the Sandy Bridge really that much better ?

My system:
Core i7 920 @ 4GHz
6GB 1600MHz DDR3
Geforce GTX 580 1.5GB
WDC Caviar Black 1TB 7200 rpm
Windows 7 64-bit

I very much doubt it. The game code is yet to be fully optimized. Your system should be as fast, or very close to as fast, in a perfect world.

lbuchele
04-23-2011, 12:23 PM
Very interesting, my system is slightly older than your's and 2GB less memory, but when i fly over london (max settings) @ 1k feet my fps are around 18-22..
Is the Sandy Bridge really that much better ?

My system:
Core i7 920 @ 4GHz
6GB 1600MHz DDR3
Geforce GTX 580 1.5GB
WDC Caviar Black 1TB 7200 rpm
Windows 7 64-bit

Yes,it's fast,specially when Overclocked.I usually had 18 fps before the latest oficial patch with a combination of low/med and high settings.
Now,with SSAO disabled,I put everything to max available settings and I have 28/36 fps over london,at med altitude at very low altitude when looking to the buildings and doing hard turns ocasionaly downing to 22.
Over minor cities I can dogfight intercept missions at med altitude 45/65 fps, downing to 28/33 at the same low altitude conditions I described.
Dogfighting over the channel is at 70/119 fps.
Even so,I can't reccomend system upgrade to you,because your machine it's a strong one and probably the cores of our CPU are very far from being reallly stressed because of no optimized code.
Probably we will have further optimization down the road yet.

Srinidhalaya
04-23-2011, 10:23 PM
Very interesting, my system is slightly older than your's and 2GB less memory, but when i fly over london (max settings) @ 1k feet my fps are around 18-22..
Is the Sandy Bridge really that much better ?

Actually the answer believe it or not, is NO.
The biggest difference in with the sandy bridge processors is the efficiency for amount of power used, in other words they use a lot less of it and get the same thing done. But as far as speed goes, 3.8ghz is 3.8ghz.
Now that efficiency may do the trick, as my processor might be doing more at the lower speed. Even though the game doesn't support multi threading, it still does help, as the operating system in the background does.
Another thing is my power supply, which has these capacitors at the ends of the cabling to prevent over/under current fluctuations may be providing my GPU a more clean power, but I can't really see that making that much difference. In the end I fear those might be more trouble than worth, if they go out its RTM with the entire PSU.

VIDEO:
Here is a 30 second clip made with fraps, which for some reason my fraps reported FPS didn't show up on youtube but its in the avi file.
Working on another video to upload from above london. It will be another couple of days...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrHDZN8UiRo&feature=player_embedded

squidgyb
04-23-2011, 10:55 PM
Yeah - in theory, i7 9xx vs Sandy Bridge 2xxx should be pretty much identical clock for clock. The bonus with the new SBs is that they overclock higher, so you get that extra 500MHz or so when you overclock.

I'm considering the same here - though I'll either upgrade the motheboard/cpu to a sandy Bridge, or "invest" in a watercooling setup to push the 920 I have to 4.4-4.5GHz (already on 4GHz on air).

Only today I decided to take a trip into London and pick up a 3Gb GTX 580, to swap out the standard GTX 580 I had and sell off the standard on on ebay - I thought there'd be a bit more of a pronounced effect on the stuttering over London (which isn't awful by any standard) but it's made little to no difference - VRAM usage on the old 580 was getting right up to 1500Mb, so I figured the extra VRAM would make a difference. VRAM usage with the 3Gb card has been up to 1.7Gb, but I've not had much chance to do any long flights yet to see if it'll use the full 3Gb.

Optimisations are the best hope for framerates and/or stuttering issues methinks, until we get some beefier CPUs in a year or two. Top of the range, right now, is a 4.6+GHz Sandy Bridge with a GTX 580, I think.

e: I should add - I have a ram drive setup on this PC for CloD as well - 24Gb RAM total, with various partitions for windows files/CloD/fancy cache. A few moments setup on startup (which happens relatively infrequently) and the difference in loading times and general operation is pretty amazing.

Srinidhalaya
04-24-2011, 12:43 AM
The 2600k intel 3.4ghz can be overclocked to 5.2ghz on air cooling alone with the asus 1155 extreme motherboard.

squidgyb
04-24-2011, 01:21 AM
That's if you're bloody lucky with the chip, and don't mind putting 1.5v through it 24/7.

The comparison of ~500MHz overclocking overhead on the 2600 still holds true - 5.2GHz on air is an extreme case - 4.4-4.5 is possible on air with a 920; provided you feed it enough voltage and turn HT off and have an NH-14 or Silver Arrow.

Still - I'm tempted by an upgrade to a 2600k. It was only a few months ago that I jumped to i7 in the first place, though.

patrat1
04-24-2011, 01:28 AM
i spent some time testing using the black death track. latest beta, all game settings maxxed except no ssao or v sync. note: i dont get tearing with v sync off, so i see no reason to use it.

1st i ran it at my cpu stock setting of 3.7 ghz, then i ran it with a OC at 4.5 ghz.

my results were no change in my minimum fps, both runs were 18 fps and my average using the OC was only 2 fps higher than no OC, 68 vs 66 fps.

this pretty much confirms that COD doesnt use all the available cpu power to its greatest extent and that throwing more ghz at it won't get you anywhere, at least not at this point in time.

my system

I5 2500k
asus p8p67 deluxe
gtx 570 super OC
8 gigs 1600 ram

Srinidhalaya
04-24-2011, 03:35 AM
5.2GHz on air is an extreme case

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lajZi-JAFXA

They easily overclock to 5.2 with air cooling alone, and in this set up there isn't even any extra cooling fans. I've read further into the matter while building my computer and from what I can tell it's really stable, especially compared to previous setups due to the new EFI BIOS. The asus motherboards with EFI go one step further and if set on "auto" mode they will back off if it senses problems, WHILE windows is running live.

CBA_Bludawg
04-24-2011, 03:52 AM
nice oc vid!!

ok so how do we watch/use this blackdeath vid for testing our specs?

patrat1
04-24-2011, 04:02 AM
go to extras in game. select tracks, then double click the black death track to run it.

note: you may have to 1st move it from the soft club folder/records in documents, to the games records folder. at least thats what i had to do.

squidgyb
04-24-2011, 02:24 PM
[url]They easily overclock to 5.2 with air cooling alone, and in this set up there isn't even any extra cooling fans.

Well colour me impressed. :eek:

Still, ~£280 for the motherboard, £220 for the cpu... How do I explain this one to the missus? :grin:

e: notwithstanding the point patrat made though - unless we get more significant optimisations in the code, it's probable that ~1.2Ghz on top of what I have now wouldn't make any difference in any case :(

Srinidhalaya
04-24-2011, 02:32 PM
that ~1.2Ghz on top of what I have now wouldn't make any difference in any case

Nope :(

EDIT: Just watch the black death, my lowest FPS according to fraps was 39fps during the twist and turn over the small city, while in exterior view moving mouse look. :)

patrat1
04-24-2011, 04:57 PM
your saying your minium fps while running the black death track is 39fps? whats your average if i may ask? also what do you mean by "moving mouse look", arent you just running the track as it is, and letting fraps record your fps?

anyway thats dam good. is that with maxxed settings also?

squidgyb
04-24-2011, 06:55 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't take a fraps reading for min FPS - everyone else is going on the reading from the console command "fps START SHOW", though you have to remember to do "fps STOP SHOW" then "fps START SHOW" again on each flight/track play. It's cumbersome, but will be a better indicator of stutters/low fps than fraps.

Plus, patrat is asking about mouselook because when running tracks for fps comparison with other people, it's best to leave the camera alone to do it's own thing so that comparisons are fair - let the track itself do the head movements..

Srinidhalaya
04-24-2011, 09:49 PM
Average: 50
Max: 143
Min: 14

Ran it three times, average and max were give or take 5fps, but min was 14 each time, and only for a couple of seconds where a british plane is taking off and a bomb explodes taking up the entire view area. The following carpet comb sequence plays around 33fps and once the dust settles its back to the average and higher.

Thanks btw for the console commands! I don't like fraps very much...

EDIT: And the mouse look, I had edit views enabled and was using F10 to mouse look everywhere

patrat1
04-25-2011, 04:03 AM
thats where i get my lowest score too.:mad:

Ataros
04-25-2011, 07:53 AM
VRAM usage on the old 580 was getting right up to 1500Mb, so I figured the extra VRAM would make a difference. VRAM usage with the 3Gb card has been up to 1.7Gb, but I've not had much chance to do any long flights yet to see if it'll use the full 3Gb.

What screen resolution do you have?

squidgyb
04-25-2011, 03:24 PM
What screen resolution do you have?

1920x1200

I get pretty much identical results to Srinidhalaya in the Black Death track, depending on SSAO and Vsync (SSAO doen't make much difference, VSync locks the max fps down to 60.

patrat1
04-26-2011, 12:20 AM
Yeah - in theory, i7 9xx vs Sandy Bridge 2xxx should be pretty much identical clock for clock. The bonus with the new SBs is that they overclock higher, so you get that extra 500MHz or so when you overclock.

I'm considering the same here - though I'll either upgrade the motheboard/cpu to a sandy Bridge, or "invest" in a watercooling setup to push the 920 I have to 4.4-4.5GHz (already on 4GHz on air).

Only today I decided to take a trip into London and pick up a 3Gb GTX 580, to swap out the standard GTX 580 I had and sell off the standard on on ebay - I thought there'd be a bit more of a pronounced effect on the stuttering over London (which isn't awful by any standard) but it's made little to no difference - VRAM usage on the old 580 was getting right up to 1500Mb, so I figured the extra VRAM would make a difference. VRAM usage with the 3Gb card has been up to 1.7Gb, but I've not had much chance to do any long flights yet to see if it'll use the full 3Gb.

Optimisations are the best hope for framerates and/or stuttering issues methinks, until we get some beefier CPUs in a year or two. Top of the range, right now, is a 4.6+GHz Sandy Bridge with a GTX 580, I think.

e: I should add - I have a ram drive setup on this PC for CloD as well - 24Gb RAM total, with various partitions for windows files/CloD/fancy cache. A few moments setup on startup (which happens relatively infrequently) and the difference in loading times and general operation is pretty amazing.

for the stuttering over london try lowering your land shading to medium and turning shadows off.

i did this and its now pretty smooth flying low over london.

MegOhm
04-26-2011, 01:32 AM
What are your graphics card settings?





Intel Core i7-980X Extreme(12MB L2 Cache, 3.33GHz), 12GB DDR3 SDRAM,1333MHZ, 6x2GB, ATI Radeon HD5970, Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium, 2TB Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive 7200 RPM, Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, 52" Panasonic Plasma, Logitech G930 wireless Surround Sound Headset, TM H.O.T.A.S.

MegOhm
04-26-2011, 01:35 AM
Very interesting, my system is slightly older than your's and 2GB less memory, but when i fly over london (max settings) @ 1k feet my fps are around 18-22..
Is the Sandy Bridge really that much better ?

My system:
Core i7 920 @ 4GHz
6GB 1600MHz DDR3
Geforce GTX 580 1.5GB
WDC Caviar Black 1TB 7200 rpm
Windows 7 64-bit

What are your graphics card settings?

Intel Core i7-980X Extreme(12MB L2 Cache, 3.33GHz), 12GB DDR3 SDRAM,1333MHZ, 6x2GB, ATI Radeon HD5970, Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium, 2TB Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive 7200 RPM, Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, 52" Panasonic Plasma, Logitech G930 wireless Surround Sound Headset, TM H.O.T.A.S.