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ElAurens
04-17-2011, 03:21 PM
Currently I'm running Core2 Duo E8500, and was wondering if going to a Core2 Quad would be a worthwhile upgrade? I just cannot go the full route of new mobo/ram etc... now.

Also would this entail an OS re-install?

Here is my target processor...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115130
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115130)

mcler002
04-17-2011, 03:26 PM
Good little CPU :D

jibo
04-17-2011, 03:28 PM
no re-install needed, it's a good 775 upgrade but from a 8500 it's really expensive imo
at what speed runs your 8500 ? the gpu side is ok ?

BP_Tailspin
04-17-2011, 03:31 PM
Save your money for a MB, CPU and RAM upgrade.

Upgrading just the CPU at this early stage of Beta testing that this game is going through is a waste of money. I would wait till mid-summer when all the mods and patches settle down before throwing down your money on only a CPU upgrade.

What's your system specs EL ... Click ---> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20818

ElAurens
04-17-2011, 04:48 PM
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R mobo

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16ghz. (stock timing)

6gigs Mushkin DDR2

EVGA Nvidia GTX 570 Superclocked

Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer sound card.

Win-7 Pro 64 bit.

kimosabi
04-17-2011, 05:18 PM
Wow, I didnt know they still were that expensive. $340. Wow.

It would be an upgrade for your system but if you want to save, save up the dough you have now and move to a faster platform in a few months. If thats not an option, and you need to do it right now, go for it. Your motherboard is practically made for Quads and it is one of the best P45 motherboards you can find.

If you play ROF, hell to the yes. If they keep patching up CloD like they do now, and it can fully utilize a Quad, hell yes again.

Im still holding on for Ivy Bridge this fall, upgrading drives etc. instead right now so that I can just get a core upgrade when lga2011 gets available.

No, it would not entail an OS reinstall.

Oldschool61
04-17-2011, 05:39 PM
For the price of the quad you can get an i5 2500 sandybridge, microatx mobo and 4gb ram.
SO why on earht would you dump 340 for an old quad when you cen get the i5 2500, mobo and 4gigs ram for same price

kimosabi
04-17-2011, 06:00 PM
I wouldnt upgrade to SB if budget meant I had to get a mediocre system. In a short while, Sandy Bridge wont look as awesome as it does now. ;) A Q9650 still holds its own in gaming. Its all the extra crap that it lacks but sheer clock for clock gaming performance is still very good.

2011 is the year of several awesome releases, first we get Sandy Bridge, then AMD FX Bulldozer cpus for AM3 and then we get Ivy Bridge LGA2011. If I didnt have the money to go full bore right now, having a system similar to ElAurens(which I do lol), saving up a bit for a full bore upgrade that lasts another two three years is the way to go. IMHO!

trO
04-17-2011, 06:08 PM
I just paid £145 for a Q9650.. 2nd hand, but I dont think I will hav any probs with it... So why not look for an upgrade that is more affordable, the 2nd hand market... ;)

baronWastelan
04-17-2011, 06:51 PM
I replaced my E8400 with a used Q9650 (ebay) in my now 3+ years old gaming rig. Extremely easy upgrade. I sold my used E8400 on ebay so my net cost was about $140, including the $12 thermal compound! No regrets!

kimosabi
04-17-2011, 06:51 PM
Good idea trO, ebay for example.

lbuchele
04-17-2011, 06:58 PM
According with Intel performance preview,Ivy Bridge will have a 20% performance gain over SB clock for clock.
But you need to consider that CoD is very far to do good use of SB,so if you later this year buy a IB processor,I doubt any gain will be noticed.
Only if the code is already optimized at the time to really put the CPU and the GPU to actually work...

kimosabi
04-17-2011, 07:22 PM
I dont upgrade my computer just for one game but thats good reason Ibuchele. Although, wheres CloD going to be in a year or five...

*Buzzsaw*
04-17-2011, 08:48 PM
Currently I'm running Core2 Duo E8500, and was wondering if going to a Core2 Quad would be a worthwhile upgrade? I just cannot go the full route of new mobo/ram etc... now.

Also would this entail an OS re-install?

Here is my target processor...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115130
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115130)

The issue for dual core CPU's is the game is now optimized for a minimum of 3 cores.

1 for windows, 1 for the textures and one for the rest of the game's functions.

If you are stuck with two cores, one is going to be overloaded. One will be running both Windows and the rest of the game functions.

I don't think your problem is your video card or memory.

Since you can't afford a mobo/cpu upgrade, there is not a lot you can do about your problems, your only options are:

1) Overclock the CPU. Yours is a little slow, try to get it up to 3.5 ghz at least. This will give you a little more headroom.

2) Get a good program which will shut down EVERYTHING on your desktop except what is absolutely necessary. That way the CPU which is running Windows and everything but the textures will have a little less load.

Doing a half-a$$ed upgrade is not really going to solve your problem. Better to wait and save your pennies and get a decent cpu/mobo combination, I'd recommend a 2500k as best value for the dollar. With your GTX-570, you would have a system which would run the game smooth as butter. ;)

kimosabi
04-17-2011, 09:40 PM
Doing a half-a$$ed upgrade is not really going to solve your problem. Better to wait and save your pennies and get a decent cpu/mobo combination, I'd recommend a 2500k as best value for the dollar. With your GTX-570, you would have a system which would run the game smooth as butter. ;)

You dont know what youre talking about if you really mean that going from a Duo to a Quad 9650 to run a multicore utilizing game is half as.sed. A Q9650 at stock speed wont bottleneck a GTX570 either, and he already have 6GB ram. Gimme a couple of days and let me reinstall CloD, and Ill get back to you, mkay....

Although I would NOT recommend a Q9650 at that pricetag. No wai.

Buchon
04-17-2011, 09:47 PM
Im with Kimosabi, at that price tag is not worth.

If you can wait a bit I´ll up some tests with my E8500 that will show that is not only for the price that is not worth.

Heliocon
04-18-2011, 12:27 AM
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R mobo

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16ghz. (stock timing)

6gigs Mushkin DDR2

EVGA Nvidia GTX 570 Superclocked

Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer sound card.

Win-7 Pro 64 bit.

Well you GPU is completely bottlenecked by your cpu, get a new mobo and a quad asap, otherwise you lose out on most of the benefits of win7 and the gpu.

ElAurens
04-18-2011, 12:40 AM
I wish I could Heliocon.

Right now the cash needs to go to the real world.

I'll make do with this for a while and see what happens.

Heliocon
04-18-2011, 12:49 AM
I wish I could Heliocon.

Right now the cash needs to go to the real world.

I'll make do with this for a while and see what happens.

I understand, I waited like 6+ years before getting a new system, it really is an investment. If it was me I would leave the cpu, unless you can get a second hand one really cheap its not worth buying in the long run (because in a year or two when you are able to upgrade that $ will be much better sent by going for a more "holistic" approach.)

Another thing you could try is overclocking the hell out of your CPU is possible to boost performance.

TUSA/TX-Gunslinger
04-18-2011, 01:26 AM
Hey El - I think I have pretty much the same system as you, except I have a Q9650 in mine.

I'm not sure what you have for Graphics.

My Win7/64 system:
QuadCore Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650, 4000 MHz (9 x 444)
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P
4 Gigs Corsair Dominator CM2X2048-8500C5D
ATI HD 5870 Cat 11.3

If you we are close enough in system - you might give me a tight set of benchmark settings and we can exchange Fraps results?

Give you an idea, depending on what you have for video. I also bought a Q9550 for another systems and was able to clock it just as high as my 9650. Q9550 is cheaper but has same specs, but lower listed clock.

S!

Gunny

Buchon
04-18-2011, 01:32 AM
At stock speeds maybe was a bit bottleneck, but not much.

A dual core E8500, or E8600, can reach the same performance of a 775 socket quad if you can overclock it over 4.400 Ghz, however you need water cooling to archive that without burn your CPU.

But ClOD dont use a quad core CPU at full, so you can reach the same performance of a 775 socket quad in ClOD just reaching 4 Ghz on air cooling.

I did a little bench and here is the result, I tried reach the max eyecandy at playable frame rates, actually is in the speed of my VRAM where the bottleneck are in my system, specs in my sig.

Settings :

http://i54.tinypic.com/1vmvd.jpg

Maximun torture London, at that eyecandy at low altitude I have a minimum of 18 FPS, is not bad to fly arround and watch but dont try have combats there, and no CPU bottleneck :

http://i52.tinypic.com/25fq9ms.jpg

Free Fly England, flying over the country at low altitude I get a minimum of 34 FPS, not bad at all, at that eyecandy is amazing fly over there, very pretty landscapes, very playable at all, and no CPU bottleneck :

http://i53.tinypic.com/334sxfm.jpg

Bomber Intercept Channel, over water there no problems at all, with 9 bombers and 6 comrades, at that eyecandy, I have a minimum of 56 FPS, and no CPU bottleneck :

http://i52.tinypic.com/2hrfriv.jpg

So I guess that dropping 300 bucks for a Quad 775 maybe is not a good idea, you can save that money for a better upgrade.

Hope was informative :)

Edit :

That bench with Quad and ATI 5870 would be amazing Gunslinger :D