Difference in FPS (nearly same spec)

[Ze-Jamz]

Ok i took this from another thread to hopefully get some advice help and guidance for others if they are thinking about upgrading they're system..

**THE SYSTEM SPECS**

AMD PhenomIIx6 1055t O/C 3.5 >>>>AMD PHENOM II X6 1090T 3.2GHZ
4 gig CRUCAIL Ram >>>>Corsair XMS3 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3
ATI 5770 slightly overclocked >>>>NVIDEA GeForce GTX470
GIGABYTE Mbo USB 3 7.1 sound >>>>ASUS-M4A89GTD-PRO/USB3
Win7 32 bit >>>>Windows 7 64bit

GAME settings are on max for both with roads/grass/shadows checked but the resolutions are different::

SYSTEM on LEFT 1920x1200 SYSTEM on RIGHT 1280x720
FPS over sea 20-30 less over land FPS over sea 60-70/40-50 over land


Now can someone tell me why the system on the right boasts 2.5/3 times the amount of FPS than the one on the left.. i just dont understand how this is working out neither do i understand why you cant pinpoint why there should be such a vast amount of differnce

Now as far as i know the systems both have the same patches and MOD.. if the system on the right doesnt have the MOD then its even more confucing

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[scissorss]

From what I've experienced, the resolution makes a BIG difference in fps for this game..

[kingpinda]

maybe difference in win7 32 and 64 bit makes a difference also. 4 gigs of ram is REALLY 4 gigs of ram in 64bit.

Not that the game can take advantage of all that RAM but the memory handling if I am correct is better handled in 64bit

[Ze-Jamz]

maybe difference in win7 32 and 64 bit makes a difference also. 4 gigs of ram is REALLY 4 gigs of ram in 64bit.

Not that the game can take advantage of all that RAM but the memory handling if I am correct is better handled in 64bit

Agreed but this game doesn't utilize that and even if it did there is still 3-3.5Gig available in my system with Win7 32 yet so it shouldn't make a difference like this should it?:o

[bongodriver]

From what I've experienced, the resolution makes a BIG difference in fps for this game..


this could be something, I have a similar system to Z-jamz description (right one) and I can only have a resolution of 1680x1050 because it is max native for my monitor, but I am getting extremely good framerates and little to no stutter with everything on max

[first-things-first]

Well 1920x1200 = 2,304,000 pixels. 1280x720 = 921,600 pixels.

Ignoring other factors, one machine is pushing 2.5 times (2304000 / 921600) more pixels around.

I think this shows a linear performance.

[Ze-Jamz]

this could be something, I have a similar system to Z-jamz description (right one) and I can only have a resolution of 1680x1050 because it is max native for my monitor, but I am getting extremely good framerates and little to no stutter with everything on max

hmm thats strange.. my system is the one on the left fyi but in either case again if your getting good fps and everything on max its a far cry from what my system is getting... its playable dont get me wrong since the mod but the scenery doesnt look pretty at all

BUT

still masses of difference between them and from the different resolutions ive tried NONE gave me 30-40 fps increase

[bongodriver]

There have been some indications that people with the Nvidia gtx4XX series cards are getting the most joy, whether that is irrespective of other hardware I don't know, but there is evidence mounting it seems.

p.s. I'm not even using the SSAO mod

[kingpinda]

Agreed but this game doesn't utilize that and even if it did there is still 3-3.5Gig available in my system with Win7 32 yet so it shouldn't make a difference like this should it?:o

Well... it depends... the first system because its 32 bit can not utilize 4 Gigs of RAM. its something like 3.2 or something like that? I forget.. anyway.. How much RAM does the OS plus all open processes use? we will substract this from the 3.2 gigs... then if I'm not SERIOUSLY mistaken but i read something about this... we ALSO subtract the total amount of Ram of your VIDEO card!!! yes your dedicated NOT onboard but slotted beast of a video card. Then how much ram is left for the game?

Again.. I might be mistaken but I read this somewhere.. might be to do that equal amounts of internal ram is needed to adress the ram inside your video card or something? Please if someone could adress this issue and explain it to me in plain english I will be much obliged.

So in other words a win7 64 bit version has in your example 1 gig more for overhead memory handling.

[lensman1945]

well, mine is the system on the right....

Just the latest official patch installed..no mods.

The build is brand new..COD is the only program installed apart from TrackIR.

I doubt the SSD would effect frame rates..maybe just help with stutters?

the Phenom is o/clocked to 3.7Mhz

[Ze-Jamz]

Well obviously the processes running will make a difference and your SSD will make a slight difference but you say you havnet even got the mod enabled?

well before i installed that mod the game was pretty much unplayable unless everything was set to Low-Med gfx so thats confuses me even more..

I will say though ive since adjusted my resolution to what you were using and got to 40fps over Sea but it did look pretty shocking on a native 1920x1200 screen...8-10 fps increase from just removing spit mirror

[bongodriver]

Yeah that mirror is crap anyway, about as usefull as a chocolate fireguard in its current state.

[Ze-Jamz]

thing is we wont know untill the next patch, that should give us some clues..

I got this rig with the money i had available just after Xmas with this game in mind lol.. i mean upgrading to 64bit OS and maybe more ram is doo-able..Corsair is cheap enough for what it is=decent Ram but anymore than that i cant do not yet..

i just hope i can play it with looking how i want it to look and how i know it can from the vid's we have all seen without having to spend another 2-300 quids

[bongodriver]

well I guess by my own experience there is real hope for that, the patch really did make a massive improvement, and I find it hard to believe the suggestions the game code is inherently 'broken', at least we don't pay for patches.

[Ataros]

Change resolution to see the difference.

[NLS61]

Do both the systems have AERO disabeld that gave me a 10 fps increase in general.


System spec win7 32 P8P67 EVO I5 2500k 4 Ghz
Nvidia GTX 560 ti 1GB 4GB 1333 kingston Scyte Mugen2 cooler

[lensman1945]

Do both the systems have AERO disabeld that gave me a 10 fps increase in general.


System spec win7 32 P8P67 EVO I5 2500k 4 Ghz
Nvidia GTX 560 ti 1GB 4GB 1333 kingston Scyte Mugen2 cooler

I haven't touched Aero...I'm quite happy with the performance at the moment.

[DummyBoy]

Hmmm ... Everybody talking about resolution ... Yep ... it's matter ...

But GTX470 eats 5770 to breakfast ...

Those PC's do not have nearly same spec ... the second one has more RAM, more faster GPU, lower resolution, better CPU, and an operating system which can handle the memory within the PC ...

[Tvrdi]

when I first tried ROF it stuttered badly...unplayable...then again my friend had the same GPU and CPU, OS and RAM (we bought PCs together) and was stutter free in ROF...later after few patches I got the same performance....so....I would say difference is due to bad optimisation of the sim...its typical situation when bad optimisation is the case...

[W1ndy]

Play both rigs at the SAME resolution if you want to benchmark .

Then the fps will tell us something .