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nolife2255
03-31-2011, 07:02 PM
I have been reading these fourms for a while now about all the performance issues that people are having. I just got the game installed yesterday and I and running it run on very high settings with AA off. I get 60 fps over towns and 90 fps over channel this is with over planes and bombers as well

My specs are
I5 3.3
4GB RAM
6950

I have read people having worse performance with specs better than me why is it working fine for me

ICDP
03-31-2011, 07:05 PM
Are you sure you didn't install secret weapons of the luftwaffe instead?

Sorry, without proof and telling us what settings you are using we aren't going to believe you :)

Sven
03-31-2011, 07:06 PM
Interesting, I think lots of people would like to see your conf.ini file;)

bw_wolverine
03-31-2011, 07:07 PM
I have been reading these fourms for a while now about all the performance issues that people are having. I just got the game installed yesterday and I and running it run on very high settings with AA off. I get 60 fps over towns and 90 fps over channel this is with over planes and bombers as well

My specs are
I5 3.3
4GB RAM
6950

I have read people having worse performance with specs better than me why is it working fine for me

vids plz.

Doc_uk
03-31-2011, 07:12 PM
whats that smell, smells abit like Bull------to me:rolleyes:

Biggs
03-31-2011, 07:13 PM
mines running fine too... no crashes graphics glitches or anything nasty like that... not running at max or even med but with some video option tweaking ive getting respectable/playble FPS

MadTommy
03-31-2011, 07:18 PM
My performance is fine...all on High settings except Trees & Buildings on Medium

Approx. 60 fps over the sea.. 25 - 40 over land, that's fine with me. Anything over 20 is perfectly playable.

Win7 (x64)
E8400 dual core @ 3.6 Ghz
GTX 480
4 GB (1066) Ram
SSD HD
x-fi extreme music
1680x1050 resolution

nolife2255
03-31-2011, 07:20 PM
Is there a good fps counter like in game one using console other than fraps because when I go to take a screenshot there is no fps counter in the shot.

Kankkis
03-31-2011, 07:21 PM
Yep, FPS is good, but that stuttering is not good, smooth,stuttering,smooth......

Sven
03-31-2011, 07:25 PM
Is there a good fps counter like in game one using console other than fraps because when I go to take a screenshot there is no fps counter in the shot.

What was that command again for ingame FPS? START_FPSSHOW?

JG52Uther
03-31-2011, 07:29 PM
mines running fine too... no crashes graphics glitches or anything nasty like that... not running at max or even med but with some video option tweaking ive getting respectable/playble FPS

Same,and I'm having a blast!

nolife2255
03-31-2011, 07:30 PM
anyone know what the button to bring up console tried all the normal buttons

AWL_Spinner
03-31-2011, 07:33 PM
It's interesting that most of the folks reporting better performance seem to have less than stellar hardware - it's almost as if the machines it was developed on weren't current "top gen" either and there's some features out there in the uber-Gfx/CPU setups that's crippling something-or-other unexpected.

Pyrres
03-31-2011, 07:37 PM
Well Im having a lot of fun. I just got my new GPU and all. All on max exept buildings and forrests on high not maximum and 2xAA and on fullhd resolution. No problems flying 30planes over London. Yes I do have slight stutters from time to time, and few gliches here and there but the game is perfectly playable on my pc. Plus as I have secondary display running a cpu usage meter I can see all 4cores stressed (well more because of virtual cores). It is beautiful, I just canĀ“t seem to get the hang of the menus and missions. I liked the old QMF from IL2.

Space Communist
03-31-2011, 07:43 PM
Hmm, both the people here reporting running it great have 2 gb of video ram. Could be connected.

Flanker35M
03-31-2011, 07:44 PM
S!

To bring up console press Shift + Tab. Then type fps SHOW START and press Enter. Shift + Tab to exit console. I wonder why they changed the command from IL-2?

Meek
03-31-2011, 07:49 PM
My performance is poor, but I have no stuttering whatsoever (probably due to SSD).

nolife2255
03-31-2011, 07:49 PM
No lucky with the shift tab just brings up the radio command

addman
03-31-2011, 07:54 PM
Running fine here too but over land it slows down a bit though. I don't know if it's because there are as many different setups as there are people playing this game but I for one haven't had a single crash or freeze so far. It's unbelievable but it's really solid, too bad the optimization leaves some to be desired. Everything at med-high@1600x900 resolution. God! I just love cruising in my 110 over the glittering channel:grin:

Dano
03-31-2011, 07:57 PM
Hmm, both the people here reporting running it great have 2 gb of video ram. Could be connected.

That jumped out at me too.

BigPickle
03-31-2011, 08:00 PM
Its because it uses tons on VRAM on the GPU, its purely based on GPU it seems at the moment, surely the load needs to be spread out a bit?

BigPickle
03-31-2011, 08:02 PM
No lucky with the shift tab just brings up the radio command
Go into your key settings and map it, its in the game portion i think

kalimba
03-31-2011, 08:04 PM
That jumped out at me too.

Ain't no expert, but being a gamer for more than 20 years, I can certainly
say that very often stuttering and low FPS are memory related and to HD access speed, if you exclude coding problems...
So your observation is logical....

Salute !

addman
03-31-2011, 08:04 PM
Personally I think it's due to poor optimization, I've read examples where rather modest rigs plays the game just fine. After that first patch it really improved for me. Kinda like a 6 cylinder engine running on only 4 cylinders or something.

nolife2255
03-31-2011, 08:18 PM
Ok got the console up. They must have changed the command to bring up fps cos fps SHOW START is not working. The one thing I have noticed is when you play in cockpit fps drops alot I play with it off. I get about 60-70 with cockpit on over the channel and 50-60 on land and without it about 20fps more. No stutters tho so it feels like no fps has dropped had to use fraps to see that.

nolife2255
03-31-2011, 08:20 PM
Off topic abit, But I got through a few campaign missions last night and when I go to play now it starts from the beginning wtf

jt_medina
03-31-2011, 08:22 PM
not in this order. Buildings(freezes the PC), trees(the higher the more stuttering), shadows and grass. For the rest of settings I didn't notice too much difference.

Dronkos
03-31-2011, 08:24 PM
I have been reading these fourms for a while now about all the performance issues that people are having. I just got the game installed yesterday and I and running it run on very high settings with AA off. I get 60 fps over towns and 90 fps over channel this is with over planes and bombers as well

My specs are
I5 3.3
4GB RAM
6950

I have read people having worse performance with specs better than me why is it working fine for me

Give your config file.
I can run CoD playable with all settings off and on low. Wich is absolutly redicules with my system..
So either ur full of bs, or u have found some hax wich fixes the problem.

Biggs
03-31-2011, 08:25 PM
Same,and I'm having a blast!

Models on high so are visual effects... forest on low... building detail is VERY low... damage decals are med... building amount med.. land shading low..
X8 AA grass and all that checked ON. 1680x1050

the frames drop over land sure... but its butter over water.

mcmatt
03-31-2011, 08:25 PM
I manage to get 30 FPS over the sea with 3 vs 3 dogfight. Drops when closing, exploding etc. Medium settings, grass, shadows off, trees low. Driver settings AA: app controlled, AF app controlled, Texture pref: HQ, MipMap: HQ, Vertical Sync Off, Catalyst A.I.:Off. I don't want to talk about FPS above ground.

Feuerfalke
03-31-2011, 08:26 PM
Wow. The sim looks great.

I set buildings and building details to minimum - runs like a charm and looks just great (40 FPS over ground, 80+ FPS over the channel).

i7 920 @ 3.6 GHz
6 GB RAM @ 1800 MHz
GTX 485
WinVista 64bit

Running at full details (except building and building details) @ 1920x1200.


Lovely customization options. And I just love the Hurri!

Btw: My system uses 3.8 GB of RAM. CPU usage 90, 50, 20, 20.

nolife2255
03-31-2011, 08:40 PM
Give your config file.
I can run CoD playable with all settings off and on low. Wich is absolutly redicules with my system..
So either ur full of bs, or u have found some hax wich fixes the problem.

I have no idea where the config file is and I am not to bothered where it is I will give you screenshots if someone gives me the in game command for FPS as the old one doesn't work. I am not going to sit here giving you guys proof because I want to go enjoy my new game, the only reason I posted was to let people know it works on my rig and these were my specs if you don't believe than don't cos I don't give a shit really, cos it plays fine to me.

Sven
03-31-2011, 08:51 PM
Are u kidden???
You cannot have smooth gameplay, because i have a i5-2500K @ 4,8GHz, ATI 6970, 8GB Ram.

I have high framerates, but no smooth gameplay!

*Tries to find the appropriate picture of invalid argument but doesn't bother*

There's lots of ways he can have a better experience, hardware is not they only factor.

nolife2255
03-31-2011, 08:55 PM
Are u kidden???
You cannot have smooth gameplay, because i have a i5-2500K @ 4,8GHz, ATI 6970, 8GB Ram.

I have high framerates, but no smooth gameplay!

Well Here are some screenshots of my fps and It is dead smooth only jerks on start up when all textures are popping up and runs fine, I am running 1650x1080 if that makes a difference and no AA as i said

jimbop
03-31-2011, 08:55 PM
I have average 60 fps over land but the micro-stutters are no good. Once the stutters are patched it should be fine.

Kikuchiyo
03-31-2011, 09:00 PM
You cannot have smooth gameplay, because i have a i5-2500K @ 4,8GHz, ATI 6970, 8GB Ram.
!

Haha *invalid argument is invalid* That is like saying "Your car can't run better than mine because I use better fuel!" There are many factors that could be creating a difference between the way it runs on his system and yours. Everything from hardware to software of the PC can make these differences along with setting in game.

iceblink_luck
03-31-2011, 09:06 PM
I find it very hard to believe that the OP can run the game flawlessly on high settings. I can run it on high setting, but still get the odd stutter and slow down.
I am running it on a system with an Intel i7 2600k@4.6GHz, Gigabyte P67A-UD7 motherboard, 8GB of 1600 Ram and 2xGTX580's (although no SLI on this game yet) - and a 256GB C300 SSD. It is something with the game that'snot quite right, not the system.

nolife2255
03-31-2011, 09:08 PM
Haha *invalid argument is invalid* That is like saying "Your car can't run better than mine because I use better fuel!" There are many factors that could be creating a difference between the way it runs on his system and yours. Everything from hardware to software of the PC can make these differences along with setting in game.

I agree I had this with Call of Duty Black ops my old pc had
2.8 Core 2 Duo
9800GTX+
4Gb Ram

and my laptop which had
2.4Ghz
4670
4GB

Was running it better

JumpingHubert
03-31-2011, 09:09 PM
Wow. The sim looks great.

I set buildings and building details to minimum - runs like a charm and looks just great (40 FPS over ground, 80+ FPS over the channel).

i7 920 @ 3.6 GHz
6 GB RAM @ 1800 MHz
GTX 485
WinVista 64bit

Running at full details (except building and building details) @ 1920x1200.


Lovely customization options. And I just love the Hurri!

Btw: My system uses 3.8 GB of RAM. CPU usage 90, 50, 20, 20.
thanks for the tip. How do you get antialiasing working. the cockpit view is good filtered but other planes and external view seems to be aa disabled. Res is 1680x1050.

Badhax
03-31-2011, 09:38 PM
This is my first post here so please forgive me. It's not intended to be a whine but...

See my sig for what I'm running and I am pretty disappointed to have turn AA off and every thing down to Medium and still get only 25fps in free flight over England. More than that there is clearly stuttering going on that is unrelated to FPS. I am willing to give the developers some time to sort it out, but I'm disappointed when I had such fond memories of IL2. :(

I'll keep playing with settings to see if I can get an improvement, but I'd rather be learning to fly than fiddling with graphics options!

Kikuchiyo
03-31-2011, 09:44 PM
This is my first post here so please forgive me. It's not intended to be a whine but...

See my sig for what I'm running and I am pretty disappointed to have turn AA off and every thing down to Medium and still get only 25fps in free flight over England. More than that there is clearly stuttering going on that is unrelated to FPS. I am willing to give the developers some time to sort it out, but I'm disappointed when I had such fond memories of IL2. :(

I'll keep playing with settings to see if I can get an improvement, but I'd rather be learning to fly than fiddling with graphics options!

I suspect (as in speculating) that the stuttering may be memory caching on either the gpu or ram, as new assests are being loaded. Try turning down shadows, trees, buildings, grass. For advice and tweaks to make check out the technical sub-forum.

HenFre
03-31-2011, 09:45 PM
...
i7 920 @ 3.6 GHz
6 GB RAM @ 1800 MHz
GTX 485
WinVista 64bit...

Is this a laptop computer? And is your GPU the GTX 485 M? if so, how much GPU memory do you have?

iceblink_luck
03-31-2011, 10:21 PM
I agree I had this with Call of Duty Black ops my old pc had
2.8 Core 2 Duo
9800GTX+
4Gb Ram

and my laptop which had
2.4Ghz
4670
4GB

Was running it better

Call of Duty Black ops plays on my laptop, too. Not surprising really, as it is at heart a console port.

Codex
03-31-2011, 10:21 PM
My performance is fine...all on High settings except Trees & Buildings on Medium

Approx. 60 fps over the sea.. 25 - 40 over land, that's fine with me. Anything over 20 is perfectly playable.

Win7 (x64)
E8400 dual core @ 3.6 Ghz
GTX 480
4 GB (1066) Ram
SSD HD
x-fi extreme music
1680x1050 resolution

It's interesting that you're reporting good performance and have an SSD, theres more and more people reporting good performance using SSD. This might be the start of something.

camel24hrs
03-31-2011, 10:27 PM
That jumped out at me too.

Yeah, My guess is the amount of video ram has a big difference. I dont have the sim yet, but I do have ROF which has some heavy duty ground graphics and pyshics involved. I run a 2 gig Geforce 560Ti and when I load up everything to max It shows I use 53% of video ram. After flying I look at MSI afterburner and the ram usage agrees with what the ROF panel shows me. So if I had only 1 gig of ram I would be in big trouble with ROF. In fact it gives you warnings when you hit 95% usage that the game may not be flyable at the present settings. My card is a Palit geforce 560ti 2 gig. Got it from New Egg. In ROF I get between low 40s to high 50s FPS and that is with everything turned all the way up. Asus P5K deluxe, Q9550 @ 3.6ghz, 8 gig ddr2 ram @ 1066. So good performace on a older pc. And in ROF all the flights are over land.

I will have to wait till April 18th for my game to ship, I paid for 2nd day air. so hopefully I will be flying on the 20th. I just hope COD does as well as ROF.

steveg
03-31-2011, 10:32 PM
i agree with the previous post, vidio RAM is the bottleneck, my system ( intel i5, 3 gb memory,ngforce 240 1gb) was running very jerkily, I've turned landscape rendering video options right down and now its nice and smooth and still looks loads better than the old il2

klem
03-31-2011, 11:32 PM
ASUS Sabertooth mobo
i7 950 o/c @ 4GHz
6Gb RAM
EVGA Superclocked Nvidia GTX570
750W PSU
Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
TrackIR4 running TrackIR5 software
Saitek X52Pro and Pedals

First impressions out of the box...

Left 'as installed' (Medium settings), FPSs 58-60 (Samsung Monitor is 60Hz refresh) over water, dropping further into the 50s over land. Running the Spitfire and Hurricane Free Flights.

High Settings, 40-50 over water, dropping into the 30-45 over land in a Blenheim over the island atolls and even further to 15-30 at low level with a face full of trees.

I'll be turning the grass off and playing with more settings tomorrow but for starters it isn't bad.

My friend is running i7 3.4GHz, 6Gb RAM and Nvidia 255 (265?) and getting 17-30 with medium settings.

All the above noted when flying on his game PC acting as a server for us. Blenheims were 6 off.

Too early to tell really but it could be a GPU issue, our 4 cores were not much taxed. My low level run had the first thread of each core loaded as approx 75%, 30%, 15%, 10% and ~3Gb RAM used.

How do I measure GPU RAM used?

Views seem a bit more restricted than IL-2, especially in Gunsight view which limits head movement to about 90' each side. My TrackIR IL-2 settings seem a bit twitchy in BobTheCod, more to investigate.

Not the most objective report, just an indicator.

matsher
03-31-2011, 11:34 PM
I am starting to see a pattern as well...

Guys with duel (2x) GPUs seem to be getting far more issues than others
guys with single GPUs. Maybe COD has a major issue with SLI and CROSSFIRE
configurations - Well, I should add, over and above the fact that SLI
doesn't work at the moment.

Interesting.

klem
03-31-2011, 11:37 PM
I am starting to see a pattern as well...

Guys with duel (2x) GPUs seem to be getting far more issues than others
guys with single GPUs. Maybe COD has a major issue with SLI and CROSSFIRE
configurations - Well, I should add, over and above the fact that SLI
doesn't work at the moment.

Interesting.

Luthier admitted hey have screwed up the SLi/Crossfire and are working on it. He suggests truning it off for now.

See here:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19819

Also some useful settings guides as a first pass.

=GI=Joel
03-31-2011, 11:46 PM
I seem to have very reasonable performance. at all high settings. 2xaa. not that AA looks like it has been enabled correctly.

I7 920oc to 3.8
8 gig ram
2wd 250gig in raid 0
ati 69502gb
11.4 beta drivers from guru 3d
seems to me if you start with medium settings it plays like a slide show.
I went all the way down to low everything.
When I put all settings to high except for enabled roads and grass it played very well 30 - 60 FPS.
might consider trying to lock fps at 30 ? might help the stutters ?

scissorss
03-31-2011, 11:48 PM
I will have to wait till April 18th for my game to ship, I paid for 2nd day air. so hopefully I will be flying on the 20th.

Nonsense! Just buy yourself a CD key from JustFlight.com for $44 and dl/activate CoD via Steam! Enjoy :)

sg1221
03-31-2011, 11:56 PM
It's playable on my system but certainly not as smooth as RoF or CoD
black ops. I also noticed some missions are smoother than others even if both are over water . Another big factor when it comes to PC gamers is the software people have on their machines , anti virus , background stuff ....etc. You could have 10 people with identical computers and all of them would probably get different performance results :confused:

Asus MB AMD 955 be @ 3.8
6 GB DDR 2 dual channel
GTX 280 1gb

GOZR
04-01-2011, 12:01 AM
SLI and i7 2600K @4800 Ghz and for now doesn't run good.. i'm looking for the cores setup in config..
Wil tell more later results

Kikuchiyo
04-01-2011, 12:03 AM
SLI and i7 2600K @4800 Ghz and for now doesn't run good.. i'm looking for the cores setup in config..
Wil tell more later results

Disable SLI. It's broken in the game atm.

SacaSoh
04-01-2011, 12:16 AM
i5-760;
HD6870;
4gb ddr 1333;
2x 7200rpm hd's (1 for windows, other for installed games);
Freetrack - ps3 eye;
All stock.
1920x1080

Bought from justflight yesterday, tested today... in the first run it ran with heavy stuttering, all medium except building detail and building density (or whatever it is called) that are on low, 2x AA. After that i ONLY changed the ";ProcessAffinityMask=3" to "ProcessAffinityMask=15" and the game now is smooth. I tested over land and water, with 6 x 6 fighters and it only slows down when you're flying low and it access the HD to load buildings and trees.

I think it need a lot of optimizations, but i guess it won't take much time to make it run better on lower specs PC's.
Sry for bad english.

Kikuchiyo
04-01-2011, 01:02 AM
i5-760;
HD6870;
4gb ddr 1333;
2x 7200rpm hd's (1 for windows, other for installed games);
Freetrack - ps3 eye;
All stock.
1920x1080

Bought from justflight yesterday, tested today... in the first run it ran with heavy stuttering, all medium except building detail and building density (or whatever it is called) that are on low, 2x AA. After that i ONLY changed the ";ProcessAffinityMask=3" to "ProcessAffinityMask=15" and the game now is smooth. I tested over land and water, with 6 x 6 fighters and it only slows down when you're flying low and it access the HD to load buildings and trees.

I think it need a lot of optimizations, but i guess it won't take much time to make it run better on lower specs PC's.
Sry for bad english.

Excellent information, and you type English better than many native speakers! :-)

jimbop
04-01-2011, 01:08 AM
How do I measure GPU RAM used?

Download EVGA Precision.

Thee_oddball
04-01-2011, 01:19 AM
Ain't no expert, but being a gamer for more than 20 years, I can certainly
say that very often stuttering and low FPS are memory related and to HD access speed, if you exclude coding problems...
So your observation is logical....

Salute !

ditto..my fps does not change when the stuttering is going on...it seemed more like system lag than video

Thee_oddball
04-01-2011, 01:23 AM
Give your config file.
I can run CoD playable with all settings off and on low. Wich is absolutly redicules with my system..
So either ur full of bs, or u have found some hax wich fixes the problem.

he's not lying...he just didn't tell us his resolution was 480x640 :mrgreen:

nolife2255
04-01-2011, 01:42 AM
he's not lying...he just didn't tell us his resolution was 480x640 :mrgreen:

If you have a look my screenshots posted on page 4 and hover your mouse over it will tell you my resulution which is 1650*1080

desmodronic
04-01-2011, 01:45 AM
I find it quite playable. I am not getting stutters like others are saying. London does hammer it a lot, 20fps by Tower Bridge verses 80ish heading east towards the sea. I dropped my res to 1280x800 and medium settings. Still nice to look at :)

Space Communist
04-01-2011, 01:48 AM
Well Here are some screenshots of my fps and It is dead smooth only jerks on start up when all textures are popping up and runs fine, I am running 1650x1080 if that makes a difference and no AA as i said

As an aside, is it possible to enable the 2d gauges overlay while leaving the cockpit visible, as in RoF? Seems to me that this would be a very useful feature while learning complex engine management. I mean of course you could just use the virtual cockpit, but that's ugly :p

kingpinda
04-01-2011, 02:23 AM
I am running fine as well. e8400 4 gigs of ram 4870 1 gig graphics card.

What I remember though is that because we had problems with optimization with DCS a-10c is that I disabled alot of things in my bios. CIE, multithreading and the like. Don't know if this is responsible but be aware that although you have decent hardware that many MANY software things can wreak havoc.

also if you have 2 graphics cards for multiple screens etc, try just using your best graphics card. many users on Eagle Dynamics forums had good results with this.

edit link: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=68060

jt_medina
04-01-2011, 02:29 AM
I got it running between 30-50 on water with this conf. They only thing left is to wait for the patches.

Quadcore 2 2.5
ATI 5770 1GB
4GB RAM
Win 7 64bits

klem
04-01-2011, 08:07 AM
Download EVGA Precision.

Thanks Jimbop

I should have mentioned I'm running 1680,1050 and my low level run with the poorer fps had AA set at x8.

jimbop
04-01-2011, 08:12 AM
Thanks Jimbop

I should have mentioned I'm running 1680,1050 and my low level run with the poorer fps had AA set at x8.

You can also look at AIDA64 for benchmarking including logs which EVGA Precision doesn't have. Not free but there is a trial period. Hopefully we only need 30 days to get the problems fixed!