View Full Version : Luthier...what else is missing from the release???
smink1701
03-31-2011, 02:15 PM
Luthier,
Just curious, in addition to loosing the prop affect, what other cool elements are missing from the release version of Cliffs? Since we've been seeing vids and images for the last year it would be nice to manage expectations and know what we are and are not getting in the actual game.
Thanks.
Wolf_Rider
03-31-2011, 02:22 PM
how did they get those vids to run so smooth?
Fansadox
03-31-2011, 02:47 PM
They were all over water ! the vids that is
I really enjoy the il2 series and this game has alot of potency but after 6 years development they did a really poor job making it.
Things will get better but thisgame was far from being released in its current state
kalimba
03-31-2011, 02:50 PM
I am asking exactly the same thing in the FAQ thread:
ALthough we didn't get much videos on Friday's updates, we got wounderful screens from time to time showing off very photorealistic features:
Splendid smoke effects:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=15413
Splendid burning effects:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=15675
Great gauge glass reflections :
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=17054
Are those still in the game ?
Thanks !
NaBkin
03-31-2011, 02:57 PM
the developers were obviously overextendet all together... nice visuals... ON SCREENSHOTS... cool features... IN THEORY. Not enough manpower for this project I guess..
let's wait another year :sad:
T}{OR
03-31-2011, 03:06 PM
Luthier,
Just curious, in addition to loosing the prop affect, what other cool elements are missing from the release version of Cliffs? Since we've been seeing vids and images for the last year it would be nice to manage expectations and know what we are and are not getting in the actual game.
Thanks.
First thing that comes to mind is water interacting with the shore. I've yet to see waves hitting the beaches. Someone correct me if I am wrong, or was that also removed from the final version?
wildone_106
03-31-2011, 03:11 PM
Having no prop effect is completely ridiculous, its like flying a Jet..you can see it from the outside, but not in? Really we have to pander to 0.3% of the population? Why not make this game for the blind too and turn the screen black, with audio only directions.:confused:
OH wait I figured out why the landscape is super saturated, its for the color blind .34% of players, phew
wildone_106
03-31-2011, 03:12 PM
And what game is this? I cant wait till to play that one...! For now I'll play COD.
I am asking exactly the same thing in the FAQ thread:
ALthough we didn't get much videos on Friday's updates, we got wounderful screens from time to time showing off very photorealistic features:
Splendid smoke effects:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=15413
Splendid burning effects:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=15675
Great gauge glass reflections :
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=17054
Are those still in the game ?
Thanks !
Wynthorpe
03-31-2011, 03:18 PM
Im quite disapointed really! I have a hefty i7 system with GTX470 and everythign on medium and it looks well... pretty shitty, no AA (major thing for a flight sim), terrible stutters (i know they know about this), sounds arent great, should not of been released i feel.
kalimba
03-31-2011, 03:32 PM
Im quite disapointed really! I have a hefty i7 system with GTX470 and everythign on medium and it looks well... pretty shitty, no AA (major thing for a flight sim), terrible stutters (i know they know about this), sounds arent great, should not of been released i feel.
I hear you...I was about to upgrade...But will wait until every technical issues are fixed: multithread, SLI and 64 bits compatibilty...
But I am very confident that soon enough we will get very good performance with COD once both code and hardware issues are fixed...Our main concern here, is if what was indeed COD 6 months ago (look at previous videos and sreens) is still what we have now..We know the prop f/x are gone...But what else is , and will still be missing from what we have been shown in WIP ?
Salute !
Wynthorpe
03-31-2011, 03:48 PM
I think it has potential, and not looking for money back or anything daft like that, just from the screens and vids posted as WIP it looked smooth as silk and very nice to look at, at the min from what i see it has neither.
Anyone else seem to find textures on the aircraft jump from being sharp to blurry?!
Devastat
03-31-2011, 04:08 PM
@kalimba what's the use to know what is missing? Game development is an evolving process and things change from point A to point B. I know they used to have an animation of a pilot jumping out of the plane, but it used too much resources and got dumped..
..now if you know that there is a effect missing from 6 months ago, what are you gonna do about it, ask the developers to bring it back?
mazex
03-31-2011, 04:25 PM
Having no prop effect is completely ridiculous, its like flying a Jet..you can see it from the outside, but not in? Really we have to pander to 0.3% of the population?
I'm getting so tired of all these posts about the darn hollywood prop effect.
I've had a pilots license for 20 years and you CAN'T see the prop while flying IRL either!!! FOR HEAVENS SAKE ITS A CAMERA DEFECT! In a real plane you hardly see anything of the prop... Sigh...
kalimba
03-31-2011, 04:53 PM
@kalimba what's the use to know what is missing? Game development is an evolving process and things change from point A to point B. I know they used to have an animation of a pilot jumping out of the plane, but it used too much resources and got dumped..
..now if you know that there is a effect missing from 6 months ago, what are you gonna do about it, ask the developers to bring it back?
Lets see...My point is : what 's the use of showing us Friday Updates with
fantastic photorealistic screens and features if they are not to be in the game ?
The only consequence is to cause high expectations and then desappointement.
Many fans on this forum were waiting for COD to come out to upgrade their PCs...Now, if spending lots of $$$$$ does not make this game look much better than what we already have in terms of gear because so many top features will NOT make the game, or will only be available in few months/years, we will wait and see what COD has to offer next...
ANd yes, we could hope, not ask, but hope that COD will look like we were shown in the last 6 months...
Salute!
kalimba
03-31-2011, 04:57 PM
I'm getting so tired of all these posts about the darn hollywood prop effect.
I've had a pilots license for 20 years and you CAN'T see the prop while flying IRL either!!! FOR HEAVENS SAKE ITS A CAMERA DEFECT! In a real plane you hardly see anything of the prop... Sigh...
Yeah...But...What about StarWars tracers ?:grin::grin::grin:
Ok..Seriously now...;)
Shouldn't we see, sometimes, some "reflexion" f/x from the sun or a light source
on the propeller ? Or is it also a camera effect ?
Thanks !
esmiol
03-31-2011, 05:17 PM
what star wars tracers? who has fire with this kind of bullet and can say it is not the true effect for this kind of tracers?
and in COD there are different kind of tracers.... it depends of the kind of bullet you configure on your plane.....
Kwiatek
03-31-2011, 05:28 PM
Lest see what unckle Adolf think about COD relase:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs56Mr9iFqQ
kalimba
03-31-2011, 05:33 PM
what star wars tracers? who has fire with this kind of bullet and can say it is not the true effect for this kind of tracers?
and in COD there are different kind of tracers.... it depends of the kind of bullet you configure on your plane.....
It is a.....joke ;)
Salute !
mazex
03-31-2011, 05:51 PM
Lest see what unckle Adolf think about COD relase:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs56Mr9iFqQ
The FSX one was better - and the original rocks ;)
mazex
03-31-2011, 05:54 PM
Yeah...But...What about StarWars tracers ?:grin::grin::grin:
Ok..Seriously now...;)
Shouldn't we see, sometimes, some "reflexion" f/x from the sun or a light source
on the propeller ? Or is it also a camera effect ?
Thanks !
Sure - sometimes you can see reflections etc but normally the prop is very matte to prevent that. And a low rpm you can see some "blurring"... Like mentioned. Try looking at a table fan, and then shoot a movie of it. So a prop that "counter rotates" etc is a WoP effect ;)
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