Quick epilepsy update

[luthier]

Hello everyone,

Once again I want to point out that a lot of your earlier anger was misplaced. Actually, our colleagues at Ubisoft are extremely interested in making this game a success, they care about our opinion and yours, and everyone we work with there is understanding and cordial and more than willing to listen and change their mind.

Having said that, I'm glad to announce that the debacle has been resolved.

We will be making the filter optional, however turned on by default. And we will be adding a large epilepsy warning to our splash screen. I am almost certain that this update will hit the steam servers on March 30th and thus seamlessly make it onto everyone's machines when the game is installed on the 31st.

The March 30th update will also address some of the issues reported with the Russian version, but we'll provide more details with the patch notes once we know for sure what it'll contain. Obviously, we need to test the heck out of all the changes to make sure we don't introduce any new bugs while fixing the old ones (the team's favorite past time lately as it seems).

So there! Do a happy dance, I know I did.

[furbs]

very good news...so the very nice looking props stay? :)

[Tree_UK]

Hurrah thats great news thank you, and great for all us SLI and Crossfire users. :grin:

[Dano]

Rock on :)

I'm sure there will be a great many very happy people :)

[Tree_UK]

very good news...so the very nice looking props stay? :)

Yes furbs all the props will be back no more Spitty jets.

[AndyJWest]

Thanks for the update, Luthier. I'm sure that will put many minds at rest.

[MadBlaster]

Might want to make this a sticky for a few days.

[Shrike_UK]

Rock on :)

I'm sure there will be a great many very happy people :)

+1

[Vevster]

Thanks Luthier

Thanks Ubi

[123-Wulf-123]

What did I tell you nay sayers? :-)

[Geier]

Thank you for the news.

Please, stick this. It will help to stop the panic. I'm going crazy. :(

[Codex]

Awesome news mate.

Just one question, have the DVD versions been affected by this epi filter? I mean I've been advised my order will be available tomorrow so I would have assumed the store would have had my copy sitting in the back room for about a week now.

[JG52Krupi]

Thanks for the update and your time Luthier.

[luthier]

Awesome news mate.

Just one question, have the DVD versions been affected by this epi filter? I mean I've been advised my order will be available tomorrow so I would have assumed the store would have had my copy sitting in the back room for about a week now.

The game will not allow you to play the version that's on the DVD even if you try. The installer will automatically grab and download the latest version as it exists on steam's servers, and install that right off the bat.

So, whenever it is you install the game, your version will be the same as everybody else's. You can choose to disable future updates if you like but not with the initial install.

[AWL_Spinner]

Awesome - thanks Luthier, Oleg and team!

Can't wait until Cliffs reaches the quiet backwaters of retail Canada (May delivery from Amazon for the DVD it would seem) - no doubt by then there'll be several iterations of patch to download from Steam (I've been impressed with how this process works with other titles so no concerns there).

Cheers,

Spinner

[Codex]

The game will not allow you to play the version that's on the DVD even if you try. The installer will automatically grab and download the latest version as it exists on steam's servers, and install that right off the bat.

So, whenever it is you install the game, your version will be the same as everybody else's. You can choose to disable future updates if you like but not with the initial install.

Sweet ... thanks for clearing that up Luthier

[kalimba]

Hello everyone,

Once again I want to point out that a lot of your earlier anger was misplaced. Actually, our colleagues at Ubisoft are extremely interested in making this game a success, they care about our opinion and yours, and everyone we work with there is understanding and cordial and more than willing to listen and change their mind.

Having said that, I'm glad to announce that the debacle has been resolved.

We will be making the filter optional, however turned on by default. And we will be adding a large epilepsy warning to our splash screen. I am almost certain that this update will hit the steam servers on March 30th and thus seamlessly make it onto everyone's machines when the game is installed on the 31st.

The March 30th update will also address some of the issues reported with the Russian version, but we'll provide more details with the patch notes once we know for sure what it'll contain. Obviously, we need to test the heck out of all the changes to make sure we don't introduce any new bugs while fixing the old ones (the team's favorite past time lately as it seems).

So there! Do a happy dance, I know I did.

Well, Luthier...A big kis...heu...hug...And I think that UBI deserves a big thanks from the sim community...I had enough on this UBI bashing...And they
did change the DRM process , and now, they revised their position on a major legal issue...I think that shows their good faith and their total support to COD...It is a VERY good news, for us, for you, the team and Oleg who certainely needs a break here... as well as you !!!!
So go ahead my friend ! Dance ! Because...WILL BE BACK WITH LOTS OF COMPLAINTS AND WHINNING :evil: !!!!! ;)
Thank you sooooo much ! :-P

Salute !

[Les]

Thanks for the good news. Does this mean, if we disable the epilepsy filter, we will be seeing the game as it was originally designed, and not one that was tweaked to pass the epilepsy test without the filter?

[Vevster]

Thanks for the good news. Does this mean, if we disable the epilepsy filter, we will be seeing the game as it was originally designed, and not one that was tweaked to pass the epilepsy test without the filter?

No, it means you'll have a seizure :-P

[Codex]

they revised their position on a major legal issue

The epi filter is not a legal requirement, it's voluntary, the only legal requirement required is a warning label on the product. Whether that be on the box, on the manual or on screen it doesn't matter, it only has to be displayed. UBI have put in place a voluntary health and safety check that surpasses the legal requirement for games.

[Vevster]

The epi filter is not a legal requirement, it's voluntary, the only legal requirement required is a warning label on the product. Whether that be on the box, on the manual or on screen it doesn't matter, it only has to be displayed. UBI have put in place a voluntary health and safety check that surpasses the legal requirement for games.

Yes, but they did that to avoid having a law stomped on their heads (and other editors' & studios')
and when you make such an engagement, it becomes somehow binding, even if not purely "legal".
The lawyers at Ubi must have been consulted on that one.

[l3uLLDoZeR]

Yay, everybody can have happy thoughts now....will these changes do much for the multiplayer aspect of the game?

[MugiSNK]

Just to clear things up for me:
Will this boost performance and cut the stuttering?

EDIT: Will the game finally be playable?

Thanks

MugiSNK

[123-Wulf-123]

You have the game installed then?

So you know how it performs on your system already?

[ECV56_LeChuck]

:grin: :grin: :grin: THANKS Maddox Games!!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:

[MugiSNK]

You have the game installed then?

So you know how it performs on your system already?

Me? No. All videos I've seen include the stutter. I hope it will be fixed by the next update, as said.

[CharveL]

That's a good start. Hopefully they make some progress on the memory handling issues as well.

Amazingly, things really aren't all doom & gloom given a bit of patience.

[Royraiden]

Thank you very much, a lot of us knew you were going to fix this very soon and you did.Those who were insanely worried can take a rest now?

[Azimech]

A big thanks to Luthier, Oleg, 1C and Ubisoft! Grrreat news!

[matsher]

Yaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

Such good news. Way to go guys. Its good to hear that Ubi is supporting the
effort to make this game a success. All the speculation was getting heated and
nearly outta control.

I have a simple question... (maybe a silly one for those who know)

When we install from DVD - the filter will be there right? But Steam will auto update
immediately after install with a filter "Switch" so we can choose to have it on or off?

Is that how it will work? Please can someone tell me if this is how it will work.
Thanks.

[312_Jura]

Great news! Thank you!

[BadAim]

Yaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

Such good news. Way to go guys. Its good to hear that Ubi is supporting the
effort to make this game a success. All the speculation was getting heated and
nearly outta control.

I have a simple question... (maybe a silly one for those who know)

When we install from DVD - the filter will be there right? But Steam will auto update
immediately after install with a filter "Switch" so we can choose to have it on or off?

Is that how it will work? Please can someone tell me if this is how it will work.
Thanks.

That's how I read what Ilya said.

[Devastat]

Ok when the performance issues have been issued I'll get the international version as well.. :cool:

[123-Wulf-123]

Me? No. All videos I've seen include the stutter. I hope it will be fixed by the next update, as said.


Well said, an honest man(woman) will never be without friends ;)

And you needn't worry about CoD it will far surpass your expectations.... :)

[matsher]

Thanks BADAIM, I just had a moment there.

Luthier was right about the little dance, I had one a minute ago, felt good.
I feel like I just won a car in the county raffle.

I am sure the community is breathing a collective sigh of relief.

Iam buying a new quad core CPU tomorrow. Hopefully will be enough
to run COD smoothly. The new GPU will have to wait another month.
Yay!

[timholt]

Luthier, I am very glad to see sanity and common sense has prevailed. I have no doubt this epilepsy filter caused you guys plenty of grief even before CoD hit the Russian streets.
So, and I am sure I speak on behalf of all of those who have been involved in IL2 for the past (up to 10 years), many thanks for persevering in what must have been "the mother of all battles" to get this aberration made selectable - bloody well done old chap as they used to say in the RAF.
This thread should be a sticky under the heading "Western Version Epilepsy Selectable Solution"

[Solnyshko]

What a turn around (I mean the community response) - I was never in any doubt :D

[123-Wulf-123]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwNQf08Kxsw

[BadAim]

Bloody good show Ilya, If I had to take the crap you guys take on a regular basis I'd either be in the fetal position or in a clock tower. Thanks for the update, although you didn't tell me anything that I didn't already know was going to happen.

[BadAim]

Thanks BADAIM, I just had a moment there.

Luthier was right about the little dance, I had one a minute ago, felt good.
I feel like I just won a car in the county raffle.

I am sure the community is breathing a collective sigh of relief.

Iam buying a new quad core CPU tomorrow. Hopefully will be enough
to run COD smoothly. The new GPU will have to wait another month.
Yay!

No prob mate, It's been a crazy house here, it's a little contagious!

[BobTuck]

Woot! Thanks Luthier! :grin:

I personally think the anger generated on the forums helped to convince Ubi to consider alternatives :-P

BobTuck.

[ElAurens]

Great news.

Thanks to UBI for a logical approach, and thanks to Oleg and the entire team for what had to have been some pretty "interesting" conference calls between Moscow and Paris.


And some thoughts I've been mulling over about UBI Soft.

You know, in the great scheme of things, the IL2 franchise is pretty small time stuff to a big company like UBI. All those big selling console, FPS, and various other titles that dwarf IL2's sales. Did you every stop to think that just maybe UBI sees having the best WW2 air combat simulator in it's stable as a feather in it's cap? A corporate image enhancer? I know I'd feel pretty darned good about having the title that "shot down" Microsoft's high dollar CFS series.

Food for thought the next time you feel like kicking UBI in the chops over a decision that most of us probably know very little about.

:cool:

[GF_Mastiff]

awesome possum news 1C, thanks for your hard work in this matter.

Now it seems the many out weigh the few.

[BigC208]

Hurrah thats great news thank you, and great for all us SLI and Crossfire users. :grin:

Have you seen any reports of people running the Russian "non epilepsy filter" version on SLI/CF rigs? Qurious how much difference it makes. I keep reading abour Russians disabeling CF and doubling their FPS. Sounds right up your ally, as a system builder, to investigate and test this as soon as you get your copy of CoD.

[Wurschtie]

A big thank you for these words. This is kind of a relief. AND it is how a developer and a publisher should listen and communicate. Again, thank you very much.

[hockeywarrior]

Just to confirm, this DOES apply to ALL the versions of the game, right?

You might edit the original post, Luthier, just to make that clear.

[sod16]

just to confirm, this does apply to all the versions of the game, right?

You might edit the original post, luthier, just to make that clear.

victory, west all games wooooooooooooooooot

[lbuchele]

Just to clear things up for me:
Will this boost performance and cut the stuttering?

EDIT: Will the game finally be playable?

Thanks

MugiSNK
I hope it will,but probably in a gradual way,by my understanding.
The important is that I'm totally confident about the future of CoD now.
Thanks Luthier and Ubi.

[Bryan21cag]

So there! Do a happy dance, I know I did.


:) <-------------this is me

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) <------------------this is me doing the Happy dance


Luthier you big beautiful Russian speaking dreamboat you.... if they would let me into your bloody country without a passport i would fly there personally and hug you :)

please give my congratulations to ALL involved i know this was probably weighing heavy on all you guys and none of us really helped with our panicking LOL my humble apologies sir :)

Thanks to the many who posted on UBI there desire to have this be an option as well this may have helped sway them.

WOOOOTTTT <--------more happy dance:P:P

[titus]

Woohoo!!!

This is great news. I'm curious what changed Ubisoft's minds. Was it the wave of cancelled pre-orders and the rage from the forums? :cool:

From what luthier wrote before, it seemed that they were pretty much set to enforce the filter.

Anyway, this rocks.

[Tiger27]

Yes furbs all the props will be back no more Spitty jets.

Hang on Tree, for a change you may be to positive here, didn't Luthier say that some of the changes to the prop were irreversible, I hope this isn't true as the planes look a bit strange without it?

I must say this is overall excellent news, I feel positive that given time we are going to get a great sim out of CoD, this has made my day :grin:

[Doo]

That is really good news Luthier.
I wish you guys so much luck in the success of this simulator.

[fearlessfrog]

Hurrah thats great news thank you, and great for all us SLI and Crossfire users. :grin:

Not to be a debbie downer Tree, but SLI being used or not in COD is probably a separate announcement and/or decision. Ah, you are your wishful thinking - always the optimist eh?

:)

[IceFire]

Thanks Luthier! I'll be doing a happy dance :)

[C_G]

Awesome news!

[Strike]

This is fantastic news! I'm so geared up about this, I've preordered the DL version, but I promise you this: I'll find and buy the Collectors ED whenever it's available to me :) If not CE, I'll go for normal retail version :D yay!

[wildone_106]

Awesome news thanks

[Ploughman]

Good news. Must be a great relief for you developers.

[smink1701]

Placing....order...now.:grin:

[swiss]

Hooyah!

That's music to my ears. :grin:

Thx.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Great news !!

[thesean]

This concerned me, glad it has been resolved. Thank you!

[Flanker15]

Day one purchase for sure now.

[dreamofire]

I'll buy you a beer if you can increase my frame rate by 5.

[kalimba]

Have you seen any reports of people running the Russian "non epilepsy filter" version on SLI/CF rigs? Qurious how much difference it makes. I keep reading abour Russians disabeling CF and doubling their FPS. Sounds right up your ally, as a system builder, to investigate and test this as soon as you get your copy of CoD.

Different issues...Not related...Luthier said that they have found the 'stutter" culprit and few other errors...They were already working on the code to fix those...

Salute !

[kalimba]

Hang on Tree, for a change you may be to positive here, didn't Luthier say that some of the changes to the prop were irreversible, I hope this isn't true as the planes look a bit strange without it?

I must say this is overall excellent news, I feel positive that given time we are going to get a great sim out of CoD, this has made my day :grin:

The Russian version have great prop f/x said in many reports......So, I imagine that we should also get it...

[Mauloch]

Thanks

[badaboom]

What a HUGE Relief!!! Going to pre-order Now!! Can't wait for April release!!!

[sloopjon]

So there! Do a happy dance, I know I did.

Dancing as I type :)

Great to see commonsense still exists!

[wheelsup_cavu]

Awesome news. :)


Wheels

[lupus]

Hello everyone,

Once again I want to point out that a lot of your earlier anger was misplaced. Actually, our colleagues at Ubisoft are extremely interested in making this game a success, they care about our opinion and yours, and everyone we work with there is understanding and cordial and more than willing to listen and change their mind.

Having said that, I'm glad to announce that the debacle has been resolved.

We will be making the filter optional, however turned on by default. And we will be adding a large epilepsy warning to our splash screen. I am almost certain that this update will hit the steam servers on March 30th and thus seamlessly make it onto everyone's machines when the game is installed on the 31st.

The March 30th update will also address some of the issues reported with the Russian version, but we'll provide more details with the patch notes once we know for sure what it'll contain. Obviously, we need to test the heck out of all the changes to make sure we don't introduce any new bugs while fixing the old ones (the team's favorite past time lately as it seems).

So there! Do a happy dance, I know I did.

As a diagnosed and confirmed Epileptic, I thank you and Ubisoft for seeing sense. I appreciate the opportunity to "Play at my own risk". Its nice to know I won't have to contact the Epilepsy foundation of America to get them to talk sense into Ubi and make this 'safety feature' optional. Particularly since "photo sensitive" epileptics are not common to all the very small minority of the population that has seizures.

Again, thank you.

(Does a Happy Dance) :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

[White Owl]

This is the best news since I first heard you were making SOW:BOB. I am so glad common sense can prevail here. Think I'll go make my pre-order now.

[kalimba]

As a diagnosed and confirmed Epileptic, I thank you and Ubisoft for seeing sense. I appreciate the opportunity to "Play at my own risk". Its nice to know I won't have to contact the Epilepsy foundation of America to get them to talk sense into Ubi and make this 'safety feature' optional.

Again, thank you.

(Does a Happy Dance) :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

And wich version are you gonna play ? Would it be safe for you to play the "unfiltered" version ? :confused: It seems that COD has highly scored in the tests mesuring "epilectic inducing seizure"...But you must know by now where are you personnal limits...;)

Salute !

[Anvilfolk]

I did one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nn9dd6FfE8

Great news :)

[Herra Tohtori]

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6861/atfirstepilepsy.png

Below, my reaction to hearing this news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs


Thank you so much for this information. I can't express how happy this news made me, especially considering all the bad vibes that have been moving around this forum recently.

I feel like some part of me that believes that we can have nice things has been re-vitalized.

[timholt]

I did one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nn9dd6FfE8

Great news :)

Now I know how to do it, so did I - for 2 hours what's more.

[lupus]

And wich version are you gonna play ? Would it be safe for you to play the "unfiltered" version ? :confused: It seems that COD has highly scored in the tests mesuring "epilectic inducing seizure"...But you must know by now where are you personnal limits...;)

Salute !

Well, I'm not one of the Epileptics that are photo sensitive so the first order of business for me will be . . . turn the damn filter off. :D I just really appreciate the opportunity to be a grown up and decide for myself.

[kalimba]

"DirectX 11 Support To Reach Crysis 2 Sometime Today
12:11 AM - OhmWrecker - 35 Comments
According to the guys at Maximum PC Crysis 2 should receive a DirectX 11 patch today which will also unlock an advanced graphics menu in-game.
Crysis 2 already looks amazing in DX9 mode, so it'll be interesting to see how much more DX11 adds to the visuals. Thanks goes out to "N Baker" for the tip!

Update: Uh oh, it looks like Maximum PC's sources were a bit off on the release date. Crytek's Tiago Sousa did indeed confirm that they were working on DX11 features on his Twitter account, but he did not give a date. Sousa's tweet has since been removed, and Crytek Community Manager Tom Ebsworth issued the following statement:

No patch was ever confirmed, I have no idea why this website even posted such information. This thread is locked just the same as the others for trying to spread inaccurate information. When there are any big announcements regarding Crysis 2 they will be posted on MyCrysis, if you read something about a patch for example, but don't see it on MyCrysis.com, then it isn't genuine."

DX9...Looking great...New Engine...No DX11 yet...False rumors...
Sounds familiar ? ;)

Salute !

[Novfanaion]

Great news, thank you, 1C.

[addman]

YAAAAAAAAAY!!!! You're the best luthier! Almost choked on my morning coffee there. Great news.

[Thee_oddball]

Thanks for the good news. Does this mean, if we disable the epilepsy filter, we will be seeing the game as it was originally designed, and not one that was tweaked to pass the epilepsy test without the filter?

this is good news but Les does have a valid question.

[Screamadelica]

Thanks Luthier! Great news. All will be well, as the patches roll out this will become the sim that we all hoped for. Thanks to all the team who are working on this. I have complete faith in Maddox Games fixing any problems with this superb game. Can't wait to get my CE and boxed set in a couple of days. Well done all!:grin:

[Pyrres]

Thanks a lot for the info Luthier :mrgreen:. I´m a happy camper now and I´m going to do my magic COD dance in few minutes. Now I just have to get my computer sorted and get mysef a new GPU.

[ATAG_Doc]

We're back! Just pre-ordered through Steam. Thank you guys! Looking forward to it.

[bw_wolverine]

WONDERFUL news!

I'd like to think that this would have been done without the upset of the fans, but I there might have been a small part played by the vocal minority in this one.

[Blakduk]

Good to see a general lightening of the mood among the majority of posters on this forum. I have faith that the initial bugs will be resolved quickly and we go all get back to virtually killing each other.
As an aside- i am epileptic and that is the main reason i have to make do with virtual flying rather than flying IRL (I've been very lucky to find medication that works and just managed to avoid the scalpel jockeys drilling through my head a few years ago). My seizures are not triggered by flashing lights but they can be triggered by lack of sleep- will there be a filter to stop me having too much fun and staying up too late??? ;-)

[Speedingbullets]

Thanks Luthier and all those involved for working on this and coming to a practical solution.
It`s only in situations like this that one can be tested, how a person acts under various circumstances shows up their nature.

"You don`t know what you`ll do until you`re put under pressure,
Across 110st is a hell of a tester"
Bobby Womack

[JG4_Helofly]

horrido! he is going down :)

[mcmatt]

Great news! I'm taking my day of from work on 31th of March ;)

[|ZUTI|]

This is indeed a very good news. We'll see more tomorrow, I guess, after downloading that patch.

The only question from me will then be: can the Russian version be internationalized :) But anyway, my Cyrillic is improving fast. And when can we hope for map editor/creator.

[Richie]

Thanks for this.

[JG52Uther]

Thanks Luthier for this great news!

[cato_larsen]

Being a so called fanboy has not put me to shame at all :)
Ah well. Though I can not tell the difference, or dont know what to look for, I must say I am thrilled to how things are being handeled. Than you for taking your time to inform the community about this.

~S

[Mingan]

Thanks for listening to the community!

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Doing the 'happy dance' now,wo hoo,thanks Luthier Oleg and co.:)

[Hunger]

This game certainly does stir passions.

I have waited 6 Years for this and Maddox games releases as well as those of other games are certainly not perfect but like Il-2 and Whine, aging will make it better and Better.

best wishes

Hunger

:grin:

[norulz]

great news!

Then I can buy a western copy as well!!! My translation sucked anyway :) .

[Tree_UK]

Not to be a debbie downer Tree, but SLI being used or not in COD is probably a separate announcement and/or decision. Ah, you are your wishful thinking - always the optimist eh?

:)

Im sure I read a post from Luthier somewhere that it was the Epilepsey filter that was killing SLI/Crossfire performance, do any of the guys who got the russian version have SLI or crossfire? Maybe they can confirm if Luthier is correct.

[Extreme_One]

Common sense prevails. Nice. :)

[zauii]

**** yeah ! :D <3

[HFC_Dolphin]

Yupie!

[II/JG54_Zent]

Thats what some good whining is good for !!

Very good news !

[Kankkis]

What a news for this morning, WHAU

Kankkis

[Masi67]

Great news, that's the way to go!


Hello everyone,

Once again I want to point out that a lot of your earlier anger was misplaced. Actually, our colleagues at Ubisoft are extremely interested in making this game a success, they care about our opinion and yours, and everyone we work with there is understanding and cordial and more than willing to listen and change their mind.

Having said that, I'm glad to announce that the debacle has been resolved.

We will be making the filter optional, however turned on by default. And we will be adding a large epilepsy warning to our splash screen. I am almost certain that this update will hit the steam servers on March 30th and thus seamlessly make it onto everyone's machines when the game is installed on the 31st.

The March 30th update will also address some of the issues reported with the Russian version, but we'll provide more details with the patch notes once we know for sure what it'll contain. Obviously, we need to test the heck out of all the changes to make sure we don't introduce any new bugs while fixing the old ones (the team's favorite past time lately as it seems).

So there! Do a happy dance, I know I did.

[Qpassa]

Thanks Luthier and Ubi

[pupaxx]

Great news Luthier, this is with no doubt a sane decision!
Thanks for your work!

[Kianoni]

good morning for you too! :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

[PeterPanPan]

Thanks Luthier and team for all your efforts on this issue. It's a big win win situation :grin:

[F19_lacrits]

Optional Epi filter, that's the best news I've got so far this week! :D
Thanks Oleg, Luthier and Co.!

[Tvrdi]

Woot! Thanks Luthier! :grin:

I personally think the anger generated on the forums helped to convince Ubi to consider alternatives :-P

BobTuck.

cancelled orders more than anything


@Luthier - thanks for the effort....now its time to optimise the sim...and to make external engine sounds better...If you need a beta tester - Im here....I have some experience

cheers

[Gimpymoo]

Hello everyone,

Once again I want to point out that a lot of your earlier anger was misplaced. Actually, our colleagues at Ubisoft are extremely interested in making this game a success, they care about our opinion and yours, and everyone we work with there is understanding and cordial and more than willing to listen and change their mind.

Having said that, I'm glad to announce that the debacle has been resolved.

We will be making the filter optional, however turned on by default. And we will be adding a large epilepsy warning to our splash screen. I am almost certain that this update will hit the steam servers on March 30th and thus seamlessly make it onto everyone's machines when the game is installed on the 31st.

The March 30th update will also address some of the issues reported with the Russian version, but we'll provide more details with the patch notes once we know for sure what it'll contain. Obviously, we need to test the heck out of all the changes to make sure we don't introduce any new bugs while fixing the old ones (the team's favorite past time lately as it seems).

So there! Do a happy dance, I know I did.

I never realised Luthiers english was soo good ;)

[Tvrdi]

I never realised Luthiers english was soo good ;)

hes living in the states for a long time I think...

[grayson1337]

I knew we all could count on you guys. Maybe it will take a bit of time but in the end COD will be awesome and the best combat flight sim out there.
cheers to all of you

[mazex]

Well, a 500 year old qoute feels appropriate?

Much ado about nothing...

[winny]

Well, a 500 year old qoute feels appropriate?

Much ado about nothing...

Well said. It's been bordering on hysteria around here lately.

[Gimpymoo]

Well said. It's been bordering on hysteria around here lately.

LOL

I am new here since about 4 weeks ago.

It has been like a zoo at times.

[adonys]

I'm sorry, but I do not believe a word from this.

Luthier, can you please officially confirm from UBI's part that not only the anti-epilepsy filter would be removed, but also that there won't be any individual anti-epilepsy modifications too? And eventually officially confirm the removal of the already introduced ones?

Because if not, then removing the antiepilepsy filter will only solve the extra crippling FPS introduced by it, but the game's graphic realism will still be crippled, compared with the russian version.

UBI might as well say this now in order to protect its initial sales, but I won't believe a word of it until I will see it with my own eyes, that the graphics of the russian and western versions are the same.

PS: Well said. It's been bordering on hysteria around here lately.
It has been like a zoo at times.

you fools, UBI thrown that statement, as a bone to chew and be silent, to us exactly because of this "hysteria" as you call it and all the cancelled pre-orders and 1C bought versions by westerners. Do you really think Oleg and Luthier haven't tried to make them understand and give up with the stupid idea? IT's just UBI didn't cared about it, and was only stating it will do it now, after they were forced to. I really -really hope they will also do it, not just say it before launch..

[SlipBall]

Great news to wake up to!!!...so logical:grin:

[carguy_]

Excellent, news of the day.

Though I must say this thread is Not Safe for Work - my reaction to Luthier`s statement reflected on my coworkers` faces while drinking cofee. I had to find some fake explanation. :o

Can`t wait to fly theses things. CE ofcourse.

[KAMI_1]

Horridooh !

[Triggaaar]

Once again I want to point out that a lot of your earlier anger was misplaced. Actually, our colleagues at Ubisoft are extremely interested in making this game a successThat's the internet eh. Please just remember that a lot of us have a bit more patience and really appreciate the hard work you are putting in and what a nightmare this whole thing must have been for you.

We will be making the filter optional, however turned on by default.Wow, congratulations. Thank you for arguing the case with Ubisoft, and thank you Ubisoft for agreeing to this. That presumably wasn't straight forward for them due to the legalities of it all.

Now...
does this mean the filter will be the long term solution, and we can have it on or off
or...
are you still changing the code so that your game meets the epiliepsy requirements without the filter, meaning that the filter will be removed anyway, and there will no longer be an on/off option?

Thanks

[Mysticpuma]

Triggaaar makes a valid point/question?

Does this mean that having an option to switch the Filter off will then switch off in-game details that were considered the reason for first introducing it?

So "Switch-on" Frame-rates suffer but all effects are enabled, "Switch-Off" and Epilepsy Filter is Disabled but so are lots of the effects?

Just asking if this is what the Option will mean?

Good news that it will be optional, but what does the option do to the game after switching it off?

Cheers, MP

[Tvrdi]

btw its still unclear if this filter will have ON/OFF option withing game GUI or in config.ini....not that its very important but some users are not that much into software/hardware.

[shane]

Thanks a lot to the Dev team, Luthier and Ubi Team.

[JG52Uther]

btw its still unclear if this filter will have ON/OFF option withing game GUI or in config.ini....not that its very important but some users are not that much into software/hardware.
I would guess the filter will be a conf.ini setting,to make it a little more difficult to switch off accidentally.
If you want to switch it off,you have to go looking for it and make a concious decision to switch it off.

[Moggy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M

[=XIII=Shea]

Fantastic thank you luthier

[Tigertooo]

Once again I want to point out that a lot of your earlier anger was misplaced.
COMPLETELY misplaced
Do a happy dance
I did a happy dance already, some years ago,when i heard BoB would come out someday. I had confidence in Oleg Maddox's team then already, i still have.
Once again: in full admiration: a sincere thanks

[MikkOwl]

True to my word, here's my money, UBI & Maddox Games! Bought it 4 minutes ago.

[Sutts]

Fantastic news to wake up to. Thanks for your efforts Luthier and thanks also to Ubi for listening. I can feel all those positive vibes flowing back again.

[klem]

Excellent news, and I'm going to say it. Whatever you may think of Ubisoft and 1C, or their reasons, they have responded to the community pressures in various forms and forums.

14 pages of WTG (so far) can't be wrong.

[kendo65]

Great news. I'm very pleased that this whole thing has been resolved sensibly.

[Asheshouse]

Thanks for resolving this.
Its great news.

[LcSummers]

These are really fantastic news. Thanks to you Luthier and team and for sure UBI too!!!!

I never thought of cancelling my preorder. I cant wait to get my CE and install it.:rolleyes:

I have to stop for now and beginn my happy dance.:-P

Thanks and i new this will be the best sim i ever had. ( my first "sim" was on a Commodore 64)

LC

[6S.Manu]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_v_AvY-ZkSl0/TToaWW5kk_I/AAAAAAAAEDg/90BIjNfAsqs/s1600/hurrah128644943167942608.jpg

[robtek]

So i dont have to learn the russian language after all, pheew!!

[Baron]

Fantastic news Luthier, not that i doubted it for a second. :)

[winny]

I'm sorry, but I do not believe a word from this.

Luthier, can you please officially confirm from UBI's part that not only the anti-epilepsy filter would be removed, but also that there won't be any individual anti-epilepsy modifications too? And eventually officially confirm the removal of the already introduced ones?

Because if not, then removing the antiepilepsy filter will only solve the extra crippling FPS introduced by it, but the game's graphic realism will still be crippled, compared with the russian version.

UBI might as well say this now in order to protect its initial sales, but I won't believe a word of it until I will see it with my own eyes, that the graphics of the russian and western versions are the same.

PS:


you fools, UBI thrown that statement, as a bone to chew and be silent, to us exactly because of this "hysteria" as you call it and all the cancelled pre-orders and 1C bought versions by westerners. Do you really think Oleg and Luthier haven't tried to make them understand and give up with the stupid idea? IT's just UBI didn't cared about it, and was only stating it will do it now, after they were forced to. I really -really hope they will also do it, not just say it before launch..

Now you're getting hysterical.. In both senses. Oh, and don't call me a fool. It's just rude.

[Baron]

That's the internet eh. Please just remember that a lot of us have a bit more patience and really appreciate the hard work you are putting in and what a nightmare this whole thing must have been for you.

Wow, congratulations. Thank you for arguing the case with Ubisoft, and thank you Ubisoft for agreeing to this. That presumably wasn't straight forward for them due to the legalities of it all.

Now...
does this mean the filter will be the long term solution, and we can have it on or off
or...
are you still changing the code so that your game meets the epiliepsy requirements without the filter, meaning that the filter will be removed anyway, and there will no longer be an on/off option?

Thanks

What would be the point of having a filter that turns on and off if the off version of the game is epileptic safe also?

[David198502]

good to hear.now until its available here in austria, i will play the russian version!!!really great news!!!

[No601_Merlin]

Thanks Luthier, happy dance mode engaged.

[JG14_Jagr]

That's awesome news. And now I'm going to put the pre order I cancelled back in

[Triggaaar]

Now...
does this mean the filter will be the long term solution, and we can have it on or off
or...
are you still changing the code so that your game meets the epiliepsy requirements without the filter, meaning that the filter will be removed anyway, and there will no longer be an on/off option?

What would be the point of having a filter that turns on and off if the off version of the game is epileptic safe also?I guess you've missread my post. In answer to your question, there wouldn't be any point.

What I'm saying is that this 'exciting' news about the option to turn the filter off might be a red herring. That is, they were going to remove the filter soon anyway, and they still will remove it, but in the short term we will have the option to switch it off. Long term, regardless of this announcement, it was going to be removed, because the game is being re-coded. While this may be necessary, it might not be what we'd like because it will reduce the historical accuracy of the graphics (to what extent we don't know).

This is all hypothesizing, hence my question to Luthier.

[T}{OR]

Wow. Haven't been online for 12 hours and there is a new 15 page thread. :)

Many thanks luthier for this. It was the only logical way to do it IMO. My faith in CoD and its future is now restored. As soon as I build my new rig, CoD will be on it.

[Doogerie]

thank you Luther and 1C in general you really listen to the customer I am so happy about this news thanks (puts on music daces round office gets some odd looks)

[15JG52_Brauer]

great stuff - have posted before that the team that took us from original il2 to 1946 would do the business for us in fixing things. Sure I would love a perfect game, all the features etc etc on day 1, but I live in the real world so I didn't expect that.
Looking forward to the 31st - 2 Days....BE SURE :-)

[MACADEMIC]

This must have been either the greatest marketing blunder or the greatest marketing stunt in the history of flight simulations.

Either way, well done!

MAC

[maclean525]

Wonderful news that common sense has prevailed. Now the devs can get to work on improved performance and not waste their time on this stupid filter! Great news and my rig awaits the 19th :)

[Winger]

Amazing. You saved my day! Thanks! That was a really good decision!

winger

[Oktoberfest]

Point 1 cleared. Now fix the 9000 other bugs found in the game and make it playable. Then I'll be happy. Not before it's PLAYABLE !

[Sturm_Williger]

Great news that it can be disabled - it would have been a travesty if all the Maddox Games teams hard work to create realistic props, lighting etc. had been obscured by this.

[Buzpilot]

Refunded items:
IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover (EMEA Pre-order)
Transaction details:
Visa ending with XXXX
49,99 EUR
Confirmation Number
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date Confirmed
Mon Mar 28 16:31:20 2011

I'll guess I can reorder now, and to a different dealer than Steam, will save me 15.5 Euro :):evil:

[bigchump]

Finally a touch of sanity in a sea of madness....

[Sven]

Thanks! Let's get this rollin'!:grin:

[Triggaaar]

Great news that it can be disabled - it would have been a travesty if all the Maddox Games teams hard work to create realistic props, lighting etc. had been obscured by this.We still don't know that the realistic details are going to be available long term, as we don't know if the team is still having to change it all and the effect that would have. The filter was only meant to be a short term solution anyway.

[Baron]

I guess you've missread my post. In answer to your question, there wouldn't be any point.

What I'm saying is that this 'exciting' news about the option to turn the filter off might be a red herring. That is, they were going to remove the filter soon anyway, and they still will remove it, but in the short term we will have the option to switch it off. Long term, regardless of this announcement, it was going to be removed, because the game is being re-coded. While this may be necessary, it might not be what we'd like because it will reduce the historical accuracy of the graphics (to what extent we don't know).

This is all hypothesizing, hence my question to Luthier.


As i understood it re-coding the features that might cause an epileptic seizure was a much more laborious way to do it INSTEAD of the filter.

Thats why they put the filter in in the first place, re-coding would have taken to much time.

So the filter is there and one can turn it on and off. No need to re-code anything.

Anyways, as i understood it.

[ubermachtig]

Awesome!

I am glad that this filter has now become optional. It is unfortunate that it needed a lot of angry posts and heated discussions, but in the end I think it has been worth it.

I'd like to thanks both Maddox and Ubisoft for making this decision, and hope we will see the same kind of support as we previously saw in the original IL2

Once again, thank you:)

[CharveL]

I would add that the performance hit was likely overstated to some degree.

It seems to be a post-process type filter (like Bloom for example) in that it would be largely video card dependent so most newer systems with decent video cards would handle it with minimal frame rate loss. Older systems would probably take a big hit around 10fps or so.

Either way with every frame being important it's good that UBI gave the go-ahead to have the option to turn it off. If this was a console type game, nobody would notice but with the amount of complexity going on for a demanding simulator, it would have a serious impact on knowledgeable buyers as we've seen the past week. I'm sure that eases some stress at 1C.

I'm also sure it's a big relief for Luthier and 1C that they don't have to go into the daunting task of tweaking each offending effect in order to optimize it for minimal performance hit. This is more time that gets spent fixing and optimizing the game rather than mitigating the negative effects of a largely unwanted filter.

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

Woohoo!!!

This is great news. I'm curious what changed Ubisoft's minds. Was it the wave of cancelled pre-orders and the rage from the forums? :cool:

From what luthier wrote before, it seemed that they were pretty much set to enforce the filter.

Anyway, this rocks.

Yeah thanks luthier,.i`ll tell you what changed Ubi`s mind was not the communities voice more the fact that some of the community where finding ways of buying a version from Russia without the epil fliter (search for thread " Dear russian fellows") . This was at a fraction of the cost ( around 14 dollars or something) So ubi stand to loose millions in cancelled sales. Sales that could be brought elsewhere. Just goes to show how much money Ubi make from all this.Dont believe thier propaganda poppycock.
I never did like Ubi, not since there lack of support for 1946 on ubi-zoo and anything elso to think of it. (remember folkes the discontinued support for chat on ubi-zoo, long time ago). I hate you UBI.

also a little post statement here.
quote luthier"Actually, our colleagues at Ubisoft are extremely interested in making this game a success, they care about our opinion and yours, and everyone we work with there is understanding and cordial and more than willing to listen and change their mind."

Of course they are they stand to loose a lot of money, they care about our and your opinion? when did this happen? never in my life time have Ubi helped me ot the community when asked.

[Solnyshko]

We still don't know that the realistic details are going to be available long term, as we don't know if the team is still having to change it all and the effect that would have. The filter was only meant to be a short term solution anyway.

Triggger I would have thought at this stage at least, the likelihood of having to recode to satisfy epilepsy protocols seems very unlikely; given Ilya has stated an amicable solution with Ubi in which a splash screen warning will be put in place. That, along with the optional filter (or its tweaked replacement) will cater for all, without degrading gaming experience en masse.

The only difference between the versions are the language selection. Russians can only select Russian language, international customers can select all languages other than Russian.

Otherwise the game is exactly the same, stored in one place, so everything in this patch that is not text-related will go out to the entire world regardless of region.

Also Ilya's assurance ^ that there will be no difference other than language - this would also make sense regarding unified patches & updates - supports a single global game engine. There will be one game - the Russian release was never subject to epilepsy considerations, it would not make sense to now cripple it by (re)coding in line with a hobbled western release.

Here's hoping anyway! :)

[Gourmand]

just thanks ;) with the tip of desactivate areo for having much fps, it's a great news....

[badfinger]

Forgive me for not reading all 13 pages of the thread, and this question has already been answered:

As a result of the epilepsy problem being solved, has the US release date been set at March 31th, or is it some time in April?

binky9

[kendo65]

No change in U.S. release date afaik.

Still April.

[Vevster]

Forgive me for not reading all 13 pages of the thread, and this question has already been answered:

As a result of the epilepsy problem being solved, has the US release date been set at March 31th, or is it some time in April?

binky9

Epilepsy filter and release date in the US were n no way related.

So I don't think anything changed on the release date.

[Triggaaar]

Triggger I would have thought at this stage at least, the likelihood of having to recode to satisfy epilepsy protocols seems very unlikely; given Ilya has stated an amicable solution with Ubi in which a splash screen warning will be put in place. That, along with the optional filter (or its tweaked replacement) will cater for all, without degrading gaming experience en masse.

Also Ilya's assurance ^ that there will be no difference other than language - this would also make sense regarding unified patches & updates - supports a single global game engine. There will be one game - the Russian release was never subject to epilepsy considerations, it would not make sense to now cripple it by (re)coding in line with a hobbled western release.Yes, good points, thanks.

It was only the other day Ilya posted about the fact that they were still working on the long term solution and that this filter was temporary, and the recent news that the filter was going to be optional didn't also state that the other plans had been scrapped, so I assumed they weren't. I hope you're right anyway.

[Hecke]

Thank God/Luthier/(Ubi) for rethinking their first decision.

[MadTommy]

Just pressed 'buy'. :)

[Hecke]

Spread the word and bring all the Pre-order-cancellors back.

Could we maybe get an ingame switch for this filter?

[T}{OR]

Could we maybe get an ingame switch for this filter?

Good suggestion.

[F16_Matz]

*Doing happy dance whilst re-placing order*

[T_O_A_D]

Bravo! :-)

[Osprey]

I can't believe that some people actually cancelled their orders, but in hindsight I am glad they did because it was a protest that Ubi obviously listened to!

[whatnot]

FANTASTIC NEWS!

Just got my new rig stable, friday off from work and I'm ready to rock! Keep them patches coming in an agile way and I'm sure you'll get the teething problems out of the way in no time! I hope the stutters will be a thing of the past with this patch atleast on OC'd 2600K. Will know in few days!

Bought my 2nd copy from steam to celebrate! =)

[JumpingHubert]

this is a happy end! Thanks luthier.

[Gromic]

I can't believe that some people actually cancelled their orders, but in hindsight I am glad they did because it was a protest that Ubi obviously listened to!

I can name at least two squadies that did m8, myself not included because I never initially pushed "buy" due to all the debate, first person accounts, etc.. I considered waiting until mid april but with the situation turned as it finally has, CoD will also be a first day purchase for me.

Thank you 1C and Luthier for pushing the agenda and getting rid of the epilepsy crutch that was more than likely forced upon you - even if you'll never officially admit it.

I've lost any respect I've had for UBI or any other eely distributor. I'll be damned if I praise the hand that didn't slap me again this time, as they have so often in the past!

Cheers

[Conte Zero]

We're celebrating in Italy, too. A happy day.

[JG14_Jagr]

I'm very happy to hear the news Luthier. One question, obviously a tidal wave of cancellations on Ubi's servers made them willing to listen to alternatives. Will you now be able to use an earlier build of the game before the initial testing of the filter caused all the graphic effects to be removed and just put the filter on top of the whole mess?

Obviously the game, and the series would be a LOT better off being built on the foundation you have before this filter mess forced you to rip things out and put in place holders.. Looking at the wing guns firing and the tracers leads me to believe that it was certainly NOT the original version in the game.

On a positive note I will re enter my Pre Order and will likely buy 2 versions so my son can fly as well.

[zauii]

I honestly doubt it had anything to do with "cancelled preorders".
But if it makes you feel better fine.

[Tvrdi]

I honestly doubt it had anything to do with "cancelled preorders".
But if it makes you feel better fine.

No I dont feel better because of that. I just offered my point of view. Why I think the reaction was so fast and right on the spot. Thats my opinion only. The question is: Do you feel better thinking I hate this sim and the team and that I want to make troubles.
Give me a break dudo, I was the one who owned il2 copy back then in 2001 and who made few "small" contributions to the game contacting Oleg on some issues which made them fix some things. Im the one who preordered COD and waited 7 yrs to come out.

shhh

[ATAG_Doc]

I think everyone loves the sim and is eager to get their hands on it. And they perhaps feel that due to forces beyond their control they will end up not getting the product that took years to produce.

They've all been dreaming of seeing that flaming 109 through the hypnotizing rotating seizure creating prop blade. Yes that's what they want. They want not only a visually pleasing product but they want one that is also physically pleasing as well.

[Necrobaron]

The solution...it's so logical! Maybe we could having warning screens and options settings for other controversial aspects too.;)

[Fearfactor]

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

[sod16]

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Steam servers are sometimes screwed up. Generally though, I like the service though I dont use it much. ALl i know is the download speeds off the site always max my connection :D

[Rodney]

Excellent news! Thankyou!

[Tacoma74]

Awesome. Just how it should be. Very much appreciated Luthier! Keep up the good work! ;)

[robtek]

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Well, i imagine that to build what steam offers would cost 1c and/or ubi more than the loss of even 200000 (largely exaggerated, imho) sales.
So it is a net gain for 1c/ubi and only the loss of the "steam-haters", isn't it?

[Wynthorpe]

Well said robtek! Those staying away cause they "hate steam" for some rediculous reason are just going to loose out and have to keep playing with an old sim.

[jimbop]

Well said robtek! Those staying away cause they "hate steam" for some rediculous reason are just going to loose out and have to keep playing with an old sim.

Agree. Most people still playing IL-2 will get into CoD even with steam. Especially when the IL-2 servers dry up.

200000k? Really... Anyway, whatever sales are lost because of steam will be more than made up for. Just think of the exposure - still on the Top 20 list.

[carguy_]

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Maybe ppl bypassing Steam would reconsider once they saw the numbers of IL-2 sales back in the days. All of the old titles sales have been bad, and I saw few interviews with Oleg Maddox saying close to 50% onliners didn`t buy the game at all (some say that it is closer to 95%). It is entirely understandable for me that 1C would use SOME kind of protection this time, even if it prevents pirates only from playing online. But the catch here is : online is the place to be. Saying that more ppl would buy this without Steam is simply untrue - they would simply torrent it because they can. And from what I heard and read, the 200.000 figure would be a big success for 1C if CloD ever sold like that.
With a market as small as that, every sold copy counts.

[ATAG_Doc]

Agree. Most people still playing IL-2 will get into CoD even with steam. Especially when the IL-2 servers dry up.

That is a given. The nature of the beast. Just like cell phones. As soon as the new one comes along there will be a steady bleeding off of the old people step into the new. There will be a long period of life still for the old but it will be a steady decline. This is just life in the sim world.

[Space Communist]

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Haha that is the most hilarious overestimate since The Church of Scientology last claimed their number of practitioners.

The game would be doing very well to manage to sell 200K copies worldwide, period. Some crazy little IL-2 forum is hardly an indicator for average gaming demographics. There are tens of millions of steam users. I absolutely guarantee that the game will sell more copies during its first steam special (usually happens within a year of release) than the total number of people even registered on whatever forums you are talking about.

[mazex]

Haha that is the most hilarious overestimate since The Church of Scientology last claimed their number of practitioners.

The game would be doing very well to manage to sell 200K copies worldwide, period. Some crazy little IL-2 forum is hardly an indicator for average gaming demographics. There are tens of millions of steam users. I absolutely guarantee that the game will sell more copies during its first steam special (usually happens within a year of release) than the total number of people even registered on whatever forums you are talking about.

Especially as the forum community "die hard fans" cancel their pre orders at every minor rumor looping around here ;)

[Il2Pongo]

Very good news,
but saying our anger was misplaced is kind of silly.
Obviously, the anger was properly placed and the people who could make this go away made it go away. Without that anger, no change.

But I realize that 1C has to say what it has to say.

[DoolittleRaider]

Will the filter protect me from this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9KPnYJQyjY


Actually, will anything protect me from that rap crap??

[hc_wolf]

Hi all,

I am in Melbourne Australia and Luthier Epi pen has been jabbed into my Steam account with success.

I was getting 10-18fps in a single mission over the water attacking bombers. Now I am getting 25-35 fps on Medium settings 1980x1080.

Sli still not working correct. When it is on I get black screens and menus do not show unless my mouse moves over the words. So for now switch SLI off.

Still need to upgrade to an i7 this weekend i think.

I am not sure if it is my game or not, but it seems that the graphics (even turned full on to very high) do not reflect that in the game. It is like the lods or actual high graphics settings do not take effect on screen so if I pause the game and look at a flack gun on ground the model looks like it is drawn in very low detail and not very high detail.....

Maybe this is to be fixed in a patch on the 1st of April..

Anyway... I can fly on medium settings now but of course fps dip to 2fps when you shoot up a plane or 5 bombers decide to change course.

Love your work at 1c. Well done Luthier and Oleg. Can't wait for this to be optimized.

my pc (Maybe below par for this game????) But I can no way see how I can even get a still frame to look as good as the images on other videos or the Dev diary video. any clues??

42' lcd at 1980x1080 native
Q6600 @ 4ghz
2x evga 285gtx sli
evga i780 MB
128gb ssd
win 7 64bit ultimate
8gig ram

all latest drivers and win7 performance is rated 7.0

[ATAG_Doc]

Thanks for your update hc_wolf.

[Wolf_Rider]

gee, the changes came into the hardcopy real quick.
notified for pickup from EB on Tuesday, picked up today (Thursday) the Collector's Edition

[gibxxi]

Thanks for the Update Luthier. Glad to see common sense has finally prevailed.

=S=

[Veneficus]

1C
Thanks for all the hard work and for making it possible to disable the filter :)

[Deadstick]

1C
Thanks for all the hard work and for making it possible to disable the filter

Yes, thank you guys!

[266_sqn_lloyd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs56Mr9iFqQ

[ckolonko]

Awesome!

[TeeJay82]

Lmao

[JG52Uther]

OK just checked my conf ini in my English version.I only have a conf.ini in the steam apps,and even though I set Epi filter to off ingame,there was nothing about it in the conf.ini
I manually editted it with 'EpilepsyFilter=0' and my fps went up from:
avg 25 / max 45 / min 4 to avg / 29 / max 53 / min 17

For some reason the line was not added automatically when using the ingame option!

[jimbop]

OK just checked my conf ini in my English version.I only have a conf.ini in the steam apps,and even though I set Epi filter to off ingame,there was nothing about it in the conf.ini
I manually editted it with 'EpilepsyFilter=0' and my fps went up from:
avg 25 / max 45 / min 4 to avg / 29 / max 53 / min 17

For some reason the line was not added automatically when using the ingame option!

conf.ini in the steamapps or softclub location? Can anyone confirm which is required for offline and is the other relevant?

[IvanK]

Conf.ini in the Users\My Documents\1C Softclub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover is the one.

Selecting and or deselecting in the options setting page in game will write the appropriate line to the appropriate conf.ini. Manual edit is not required.

[jimbop]

Conf.ini in the Users\My Documents\1C Softclub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover is the one.

Selecting and or deselecting in the options setting page in game will write the appropriate line to the appropriate conf.ini. Manual edit is not required.

Thanks.

[Revvy]

I've been buying and playing for the beginning, I'm getting 22fps,no aa or af, can't change from 1280x1024, very stuttery, big disappointment.

What a letdown


e8500
HD4890
4gig

[JG52Uther]

Conf.ini in the Users\My Documents\1C Softclub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover is the one.

Selecting and or deselecting in the options setting page in game will write the appropriate line to the appropriate conf.ini. Manual edit is not required.

I have the Russian version AND the English version.The Users\My Documents\1C Softclub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover is my Russian version.My English version conf.ini is only in steamapps.I had to manually enter the line in the conf.

[zakkandrachoff]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5hFlq4SJaw&feature=related

[Wolf_Rider]

"WARNING: this product may contain traces of nuts"

yet nuts aren't removed from the shelves to protect the suffers from Anaphylactic Shock, or bees rounded up and incarcerated

[jpinard]

UBIsoft sure has been working hard to make it's PC gaming division go away. With this whole Epilepsy and no propellers thing I might just about be done.

My wife has Grand Mal seizures and if we're concerned about a game she doesn't watch. We make the decision, not some corporate idiot. These aren't commericlas where we're suprised when they pop up. So the propeller not changing is just ridiculous. This was one of the coolest aspects of PROP flying to look forward to. Not some balnd static blur of a propellor. If you guys couldn't figure out a way to allow non-epileptics to turn on proper prop visuals, maybe this isn't the game for me after all. I'm not a rivet counter and don't care about/wouldn't know flight fidelity if it hit me in the head. But proper prop animation was extremely key for the feeling of immersion.

UBIsoft PC division seems to be run by a bunch of brainless fruit-bats.

[Flyfinn]

Hi..:rolleyes:

there is 2 conf.ini files ..1 in my/documents and 1 in steamapps.. map
i have manually edited the EpilepsyFilter=0 line at both :confused:

[jimbop]

Hi..:rolleyes:

there is 2 conf.ini files ..1 in my/documents and 1 in steamapps.. map
i have manually edited the EpilepsyFilter=0 line at both :confused:

Disable steam cloud in the game properties. The right file is then the My Docs one.

[ScratchyGato]

...

I had to register just so I could voice my appreciation of this video.
Just awesome:grin: