russian version possible one day to have english menus?

[David198502]

short question:
as the headline already states:will it be possible,one day, to have the russian version with english menus?
any educated guesses,or knowledge about it would be greatly appreciated.

i dont have a glue about programming, so i dont know if it is possible, but im sure many people here have more knowledge about it.

[SG1_Gunkan]

It would be great, what is really undesirable it's having TWO versions of the game. Why not use only a version with several languages?

I hope that in future patches, the developers unificate the game to a single version with several languages.

[David198502]

It would be great, what is really undesirable it's having TWO versions of the game. Why not use only a version with several languages?

I hope that in future patches, the developers unificate the game to a single version with several languages.

true especially when having this filter for included i dont want to pay a six times higher price.

[Bryan21cag]

short question:
as the headline already states:will it be possible,one day, to have the russian version with english menus?
any educated guesses,or knowledge about it would be greatly appreciated.

i dont have a glue about programming, so i dont know if it is possible, but im sure many people here have more knowledge about it.


Adonys has already done some checking on this for us and after exploring the files included with the Russian version of the game he thinks that once the western version comes out it might just be a mater of using the English language files from the western version and adding them to the Russian version.

lets hope he is rite we will find out im guessing the same night as western release.:)

PS is anyone getting used to the Russian too? LOL im still a bit frustrated about not being able to map some of the keys but other then that I don't mind the navigation any more rofl just have it memorized where things are for the most part

[David198502]

Adonys has already done some checking on this for us and after exploring the files included with the Russian version of the game he thinks that once the western version comes out it might just be a mater of using the English language files from the western version and adding them to the Russian version.

lets hope he is rite we will find out im guessing the same night as western release.:)

PS is anyone getting used to the Russian too? LOL im still a bit frustrated about not being able to map some of the keys but other then that I don't mind the navigation any more rofl just have it memorized where things are for the most part

well i am very confused with this russian.adonys told us how to get some mission briefings in english.did it work for you??my atempt did not succeed.and i dont know what i was doing wrong.

[the Dutchman]

i dont have a glue

If it only was that easy.........LOL!

Sorry,couldn't resist...........

[Devastat]

It did work for me, some of the mission briefings are in english now on my version. In the zip file he made, there was some misspelling on one of the two folders that needs to remade to get files into the right place.

[Flanker35M]

S!

If this language change would be possible, then I would buy the Russian version to get rid of the filter thingy. I want all the FPS I can get, nothing bothers more than stutter or pauses.

[SG1_Gunkan]

S!

If this language change would be possible, then I would buy the Russian version to get rid of the filter thingy. I want all the FPS I can get, nothing bothers more than stutter or pauses.

Don't get the russian version only for the antiepilepsy thing. In my computer i can't even note the difference. Perhaps 2FPS or 4FPS at most. I even believe it's a placebo ROFL.

In low end computer it can be a problem, that's for sure.

You will be much more annoyed for spit releasing landing flaps in 1 second and combat turning with them :D

[6S.Manu]

I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.

[Devastat]

I will stick to the russian version, there is nothing wrong with that. I just need someone to send me screen captures of all keyboard bindings and i am good to go. One reason it been much cheaper in russia is also that there is no ubi taking money from the between.

[jimbop]

I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.

I agree. A lot seem to be buying both, though. A western version on preorder for the language and the Russian version in case the western version is never fully capable.

[6S.Manu]

I agree. A lot seem to be buying both, though. A western version on preorder for the language and the Russian version in case the western version is never fully capable.

In that case I can agree. Also because I'm really afraid about the western "filter" (not optional).

[jimbop]

In that case I can agree. Also because I'm really afraid about the western "filter" (not optional).

Exactly, that's what I was referring to. Anyway, I really doubt whether western players will be able to buy from yuplay.ru as easily as they are now for long. Ubi will almost certainly insist on their implementing something to stop this.

[Sven]

I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.

My thoughts as well, although to avoid the filter the choice is more lightened.
I am in serious doubt myself, pay Oleg the fair 'Western' price but receive a copy with a non-removable filter. I have to think about it for a while:(

[6S.Manu]

My thoughts as well, although to avoid the filter the choice is more lightened.
I am in serious doubt myself, pay Oleg the fair 'Western' price but receive a copy with a non-removable filter. I have to think about it for a while:(

Me too.. We're in a limbo...

[Raggz]

I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.

Agreed, Even though i bought the russian version ( i just had to try the game) i also have the collectors edition and the english digital download ordered :)

[Gomer Pyle]

I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.

I could agree with this, if in fact the Dev. team does get the added profit (or at least a good portion of it). But if it's only so that UBI can purloin some added cash for them selves, I have no issue with people buying the Russian version.

Anyway for me it's not really an issue as I've put my purchase (and rig-upgrade) on hold, on account of the UBI factor.

[Vevster]

I will stick to the russian version, there is nothing wrong with that. I just need someone to send me screen captures of all keyboard bindings and i am good to go. One reason it been much cheaper in russia is also that there is no ubi taking money from the between.

Partially. Russian retailers still take their share.

so when you pay 14$ instead of 50, even with Ubi taking its share of the 50, there is a chance that the studio receives less.

[l3uLLDoZeR]

So you want people to pay more money for a fraction of a product? If they didn't spend the last 6 years to release something in this condition I would agree a little more about supporting the developer...$14 is probably all it's worth from what I have seen.

[robtek]

So you want people to pay more money for a fraction of a product? If they didn't spend the last 6 years to release something in this condition I would agree a little more about supporting the developer...$14 is probably all it's worth from what I have seen.

You, Sir, are in my eyes a absolute cheapskate!!
The possibilities alone and the expected long life are worth lots more then the price in a moneywise challenged country!
By your tag however i see that you are possibly too young to have a own income and so you may be excused.

[JG52Uther]

I bought the Russian version,and will get my euro version on Thursday.Thats a win/win for 1c,because they got an extra sale from me.

[Azimech]

So you want people to pay more money for a fraction of a product? If they didn't spend the last 6 years to release something in this condition I would agree a little more about supporting the developer...$14 is probably all it's worth from what I have seen.

Don't forget this will be developed for years to come, but only if enough people buy it! Compare the first IL2 when it came out, compare it with the latest IL2 1946 - that's what you should be looking at. CoD is a raw diamond at the moment, but still a diamond! It will be polished and grinded, we just need to give it a chance and look at it's potential.

I want the russian version because I don't want the filter. But I'm prepared to pay the western price directly to 1C.

[Sully_pa]

I'll burn in hell before I'll play anything with Ubi's epilepsy-filter robbing my hardware resources.

Holy crap ...can you say over the top :grin:

[Devastat]

Partially. Russian retailers still take their share.


That's true. I am not sure tho if I would be willing to pay 49euros for the game in the current state (unplayable).

Offcourse it is different if you just want to financially support the development of the game.

[Letum]

I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.


Not necessarily.
It may even be the case that 1C get more money from each sale of the Russian version.
As it's the publisher that sets the price, additional pricing on the Western version may be for the benefit of Ubisoft. that said, additional money to Ubi may indirectly benefit 1C slightly if Ubi fund 1C developments in the future.

Of course, this might not be the case. We have n way to ever know.

[Devastat]

Yep, its stupid to discuss about this as we don't have the sales figures of how much will Oleg make from international or domestic sales. I doubt there to be much difference.

Anyhow most guys who get the russian version now will eventually get the international version anyway, and even if not, in the end of the day the more the game sells the better as currently there is a high risk of this game not selling at all..

[EAF92_Brigstock]

I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.

I bought the Russian version as a quick preview/demo of the game.
I have a Euro version preordered.

In essence I paid £8 to have a look before my version is available.

[l3uLLDoZeR]

You, Sir, are in my eyes a absolute cheapskate!!
The possibilities alone and the expected long life are worth lots more then the price in a moneywise challenged country!
By your tag however i see that you are possibly too young to have a own income and so you may be excused.

I'm glad you aren't calling too many shots...my forum name makes you think I'm unemployed and a cheapskate little kid? I would love to hear the reasoning but you couldn't be more off.
I'm a college grad and Instrument rated pilot...maybe I'm cheap because of 6 figure loans to pay back! .:oops:

[NECyclone]

It is always interesting when someone else decides what I can and can not afford to do with "my" money. If the Russians "really cared" about this sim than I think they could afford to also pay the western price.

[robtek]

@Bulldozer

it is my experience that mixing numbers an capital letters in a screenname is done, in the overwhelming majority, by the, let say : less older, people (i.e. kids), to appear "special".
So your name might have misguided me, my bad. :-D
So if you are a college absolvement and a ifr-rated pilot with a steady income you could easily spend those 49€ for something that might give you more fun than the reason for your mentioned loans.
Thats what i think and i also believe that OM gets a bigger margin in the rest of the world than in russia.
I think even the people with less money here in europe have a much better living-standard than normal people in russia or sourrounding countries, so it should be easier to pay the regular price.
If i have offended you? sorry!

To all: sorry for ot.

[jcenzano]

I dont agree with those western guys who are buying the game because of the price.

The average wages are totally different between western and eastern country, and you're damaging the developer buying the game with a so lower price when you CAN afford to pay the western price.

that is the reason why i will buy both.

[Bryan21cag]

I agree. A lot seem to be buying both, though. A western version on preorder for the language and the Russian version in case the western version is never fully capable.

Exactally :) im not trying to short anyone in fact im paying more since im buying both and supporting two different markets with my money :) hmmmm i wonder if i can deduct for that?? lol

[adonys]

That's the way to go.

Quite frankly, I was planning to cancel me UBI CE pre-order when I've found out about the damn anti-epilepsy measures will stay forever with the western version of the game and the initial bad reports of the state of the game, and only changed my mind after Ive bought the 1C's version.

At this point, I've got 1C's version, and will still get my 50£ UBI CE retail edition. For us westerners, paying 14 $ for an extra russian version is nothing.

If you really think this game has potential, and want to support Maddox, going for both (if you already got the 1C version) is the way.

PS: i do not believe one word of UBI's recent epilepsy filter removing. I mean, they may make the filter damn optional, but that doesn't mean they won't go on with their plan to address individually all the potential epilepsy triggering causes. I won't believe it until I'll see with my own eyes that the graphics of the two versions is the same.

[NEWGUY]

There is nothing wrong with a Westerner going to a Russian publisher/ retailer and paying $14 for COD. Let us remember that pc games are made in Russia and China to take advantage of low cost labor. If a customer takes advantage of the $14 price for a digital download, it is only possible because game developers are not willing to pay more for labor in the US or Western Europe. To chastise a Western customer for taking advantage of the lowest price of a Global good or service is at best hypocrisy since Global gaming companies are taking advantage of low costs in Russia and China too. If the gaming industry does not want a Westerner to have the opportunity to get a pc game for $14, just pay the Russians US salaries or move the pc gaming jobs back to California. :) If I was a 1c executive, I would be outraged that it is not easier for Westerners to deal with 1c, at Russian price points, since 1c would corner the Western market in a about two seconds, if they did. ;)

[|ZUTI|]

It baffles me how people are regarding money. If you could import something from abroad much cheaper than to buy it in your own country, you don't do it because your country deserves the price premium.

Just don't get that kind of thinking. If you can get something for less, why would you want to pay more? What someone deserves is irrelevant. The prices were set as were set. Probably also by developers. If you can get that goods for lower price and are the same goods, then... why would I want to pay more? Nonsense.

[adonys]

well, from economical and free market's point of view, I can understand that.

yet, the income of a game is evaluated by an approximation of the market share willing to buy the game. Saying that X is the number of projected customers willing to buy it, and knowing the price at which you'll sell it, you can evaluate a potential income, and based on that, how much can you spend for development for how long a time, in order to cover the costs and (eventually) make some profit.

now, if you'll sell only x/2 on the western market at western market's known price (you've used in costs/profits formula), because the other x/2 actually bought it from russian market, it means you'll lose money, so you'll stop developing that game.

simple.

you can enforce the same price everywhere, yet that would mean the users from poor countries won't buy it at all, and you'll close a possibility to make some extra money from there, while encouraging piracy (because the same poor countries users who want to play it, will still play it by pirating it).

[adonys]

It baffles me how people are regarding money. If you could import something from abroad much cheaper than to buy it in your own country, you don't do it because your country deserves the price premium.

Just don't get that kind of thinking. If you can get something for less, why would you want to pay more? What someone deserves is irrelevant. The prices were set as were set. Probably also by developers. If you can get that goods for lower price and are the same goods, then... why would I want to pay more? Nonsense.

Your economic history might be poor.

People and countries are willing to do that in order to protect themselves.

If your country wants to protect national agriculture and develop it, yet that agriculture produces at a higher price than imported products, the state might want to rise the import taxes, exactly to make the imported products cost more than the national produced ones. It might also want to make its citizens aware to buy national products instead imported ones.

WW2 Combat Flight simulators game development market is a niche market. It means it has few potential customers, and therefore must practice high costs with small profits. We're not talking EA/Activisionlike businesses turning money with the tens of millions in here.

If you don't understand that you need to support a niche market as long as you think it worth and have the means to do it, then you as well are doomed to remain without it.

[nBiga]

I think that this threat is not about money!
The question is simple, can we change the language of the Russian version to English?

Cheers!

[Wurschtie]

You all are right. Why should I pay more?

What some just don't seem to get: They bought a russian game. And now they are whining around, stating that the game is in russian? Seems a bit odd.

By the way. I could also rant about a Volkswagen Passat with uber-luxurious features is sold in the US for 30k Dollars, whereas here I'd have to pay 40k Euros.

You bought a Russian game. That's why it is in Russian language. You might have known that at the time you were buying.

[NEWGUY]

You all are right. Why should I pay more?

What some just don't seem to get: They bought a russian game. And now they are whining around, stating that the game is in russian? Seems a bit odd.

By the way. I could also rant about a Volkswagen Passat with uber-luxurious features is sold in the US for 30k Dollars, whereas here I'd have to pay 40k Euros.

You bought a Russian game. That's why it is in Russian language. You might have known that at the time you were buying.

I don't think that Westerners, with Russian copies of COD, are whining, so much as they are pointing out a very important point. Here is an industry, exploiting high skilled low cost labor and here is a publisher able to make a profit selling a Russian game for $14. Westerners went out of their way to take advantage of the lowest Global price. If a Russian publisher can access the Western customers, tailor the product to their needs and sell the product at the Russian price point, then customers in the West could enjoy benefits from a Globalized economy: Global free trade hits a home run. This is a great case study for Harvard and is a beautiful exercise in Global free market capitalism.

If Global customers can bypass the intrenched interest of regionalist rich hypocrites, seeking to live like parasites off of cheap Global labor, while passing off unnecessarily hIgh prices to local customers, then we are all better off. If a Russian Publisher can make a profit at a $14 price point, it is only because the Western rich have unrealistically high expectations of what executive pay should be in a globally competitive market and because the US and Europe have sheltered spoiled trust fund babies (needing illegal aliens to wipe their butts) from living in the Globalist dog eat dog World, the remainder of humanity lives through day to day. Right now, in the US, the middle class compete in Globalist screw you land, while the rich live in a comfortable and sheltered regionalist welfare state.

[Wurschtie]

I don't think that Westerners, with Russian copies are whining, so much as they are pointing out a very important point. Here is an industry, exploiting high skilled low cost labor and here is a publisher able to make a profit selling a Russian made game for $14. Westerners went out off their way to take advantage of the lowest Global price. If a Russian publisher can access the Westerner customers, tailor the product to their needs and sell the product at the Russian price point; then Global trade hits a home run. This is a great case study or Harvard and is a beautiful exercise in Global free market capitalism.

If Global customers can bypass the intrenched interest of regionalist rich hypocrites, seeking to live like parasites off of cheap Global labor, while passing off high prices to local customers, then we are all better off. :)

I get the point. You are right. in a way.

Especially in this case, it wasn't like a western Publisher had a concept and was looking for cheap workers in the East and ride their backs to financial success. Merely, it was an opportunity for 1C, dramatically increasing funds on the project and getting way better distribution channels than without UBI.

After all, the word whining was a bit unlucky. What stays the same is the fact that no one who bought a Russian copy and cannot speak Russian should moan about the inability to switch to English. Plus: This time, the western version was localized from Russian, I suppose. Another thing that becomes much easier with the infrastructure you get by working with a big publisher. And localization costs a whole lot of money. Just pretend we're paying for localization :cool:

And please keep in mind that 14 Dollars is a bit more money for the average Russian than for a middle class British guy. And this is not about currencies, but about average income.

[Ploughman]

I bought the Russian version,and will get my euro version on Thursday.Thats a win/win for 1c,because they got an extra sale from me.

Me too. And because I was stupid and got them both on the same Steam account I'll probably end up buying another Western one on a seperate account too. I doubt if anyone is going through the hassle of getting to grips with the Russian version because they wanted to save £20 or so, it's all because of the filter and possible visual porking of the sim to meet the Epilepsy issue.

[Sven]

Recently Luthier announced that the Russian version, apart from the language ,can be the same as the Western version, so really the only difference is the price. Buy the Russian version now? Live with the Russian language. Otherwise you should've bought the English one.

[Space Communist]

Since the Filter is now going to be optional on the Western version as well this entire issue is now moot.

[|ZUTI|]

WW2 Combat Flight simulators game development market is a niche market. It means it has few potential customers, and therefore must practice high costs with small profits. We're not talking EA/Activisionlike businesses turning money with the tens of millions in here.

If you don't understand that you need to support a niche market as long as you think it worth and have the means to do it, then you as well are doomed to remain without it.

Ok, you don't get the point. The point was, for instance: I can get newest Geforce card for 300€ in Germany and I can get the same card in my country for 500€. You would buy the card in my country for 500€. The end amount that goes to Nvidia IS THE SAME. If it's not, I take it all back.

And I understand that this is a niche market. Quite well. Those that put up pricing don't. :)

[Geronimo989]

Why the hell would I pay 50e for a game, when I can pay 10e for a game and spend 40e on beer?
I believe we will soon be able to replace russian menu text with english one. That doesn't seem hard.

[NEWGUY]

I get the point. You are right. in a way.

Especially in this case, it wasn't like a western Publisher had a concept and was looking for cheap workers in the East and ride their backs to financial success. Merely, it was an opportunity for 1C, dramatically increasing funds on the project and getting way better distribution channels than without UBI.

After all, the word whining was a bit unlucky. What stays the same is the fact that no one who bought a Russian copy and cannot speak Russian should moan about the inability to switch to English. Plus: This time, the western version was localized from Russian, I suppose. Another thing that becomes much easier with the infrastructure you get by working with a big publisher. And localization costs a whole lot of money. Just pretend we're paying for localization :cool:

And please keep in mind that 14 Dollars is a bit more money for the average Russian than for a middle class British guy. And this is not about currencies, but about average income.

I really respect that you are conscious of income disparities. In the US, the difference between the incomes and cashflow situations, between the rich and the rest of the US, is enormous. The rich, in the US, take advantage of the low cost labor, found in hard working countries, like Russia. It matters not if the US went looking to make a good or if it was a negative pickup. They get the benefit of the low costs of sourcing from Russia and then they sell the Russian made good or service for many times what the product would sell for in Russia. This hurts American consumers. It, in effect, imposes a, "Rich American Parasite Tax," on imported goods and services.

When 1c sells COD for $14 to US customers, 1c increases the number of uses Americans can apply their scarce disposable incomes. This is very important, considering that corporate America has failed to add high paying careers to the US economy for about 35 years now; make the most of the dollars the workers do have. Selling COD to US customers and other Western customers for $14 helps Russia increase the diversity and amount of potential goods and services Russia can sell Americans. It frees up disposable income of American workers. New US commercial enterprises can access these freed up dollars, potentially creating jobs in the US; jobs the rich spoiled trust fund babies cannot outsource or insource. A win win.

P.S. Also, please remember that income is not a perfect measure of US household prosperity. Cashflow is a much better indicator of present and future financial circumstances for the average US worker. US workers are like little Soviet Unions, facing huge negative cashflows and no or low savings. Six figure debt is not uncommon in the U.S. Many Americans will never be able to retire from work, till the day they die.

Don't believe the propaganda coming from slick talking business people, seeking to use you. The US worker is in bad shape and in debt up to his or her eyeballs; from having waged the Consumer Cold War called, "keeping up with the Jones," not too mention borrowing up to six figures to get an education. Never mind the Americans out of work and there are a lot of Americans out of work, a real lot. Many of the jobs lost in the US will not return and the US Government and corporations do not give two sh-ts about the average American, so long as the billionaires can ride around their limos with no panties and party till dawn. (Hey Paris Hilton!) Any way that Russian companies can help Americans buy goods with dollars they have, rather than dollars they borrow, is a great good thing, for US customers.

P.P.S. Don't get me started on residential and commercial real estate in the U.S. lol

[David198502]

I think that this threat is not about money!
The question is simple, can we change the language of the Russian version to English?

Cheers!

exactly!that was my question not more and not less.thank you.:)

[Sully_pa]

Damn ...The OP asked a simple question "russian version possible one day to have english menus?" He didn't ask anyone for there views on the Global economy or the right or wrong of purchasing a russian game from russia.....Hell for all anyone knows he's an english speaking individual living in russia for business purposes just asking.... To the OP hopefully someone will have a fix soon Good Luck... S~

[Targ]

Speaking for myself I wanted to get a hands on of the game early since I wont see it until the end of April.

I all ready pre purchased on Steam for US version so who cares if I buy Russian version?

I am putting MORE money into Oleg's hands and yet people always complain...

Speaking of Russian to English.

Anyone care to share there confuser.ini file with all the CEM keybinds set up in it :)

[Der Wüstenfuchs]

Oh man, what's the point to have this topic open, when they delete every post with working solution (how to change russian language to english). Yeah I have bought the game and yeah this is a legit/original file. :rolleyes:

[nBiga]

May be you can search in google for maddox.dll ;)

[David198502]

thx to ZUTI!
now
i have it!