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Royraiden
03-22-2011, 01:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_otchFHOro&feature=player_embedded

JG52Uther
03-22-2011, 01:31 PM
Click: Buy
Click: Download
Click: Play
;)

blampars
03-22-2011, 01:33 PM
Oh man! I need all of those items immediately!

Royraiden
03-22-2011, 01:37 PM
This video makes me happy and then sad :( Why cant we get that???

HanneG
03-22-2011, 01:42 PM
Let me be the first to say: Down with downloads! Hurray for Collector's Editions !!... Now get off my lawn, you damn kids! *wheezes and grabs inhaler* :D

Triggaaar
03-22-2011, 01:42 PM
I don't have a 2011 calendar

Coen020
03-22-2011, 01:58 PM
oohhh..

first i really wanted it, but somehow i don't care anymore... dunno why.

Only thing i found interesting and really important-looking was the manual, which will also be in de regular version... right?

Nike-it
03-22-2011, 02:00 PM
oohhh..

first i really wanted it, but somehow i don't care anymore... dunno why.

Only thing i found interesting and really important-looking was the manual, which will also be in de regular version... right?

This manual is a replica of the Pilot’s Notes on the Spitfire I Aeroplane

MD_Titus
03-22-2011, 02:04 PM
Got yours today trig?

Triggaaar
03-22-2011, 02:06 PM
Got yours today trig?What do you mean? No one here has got there's have they?

Nike-it
03-22-2011, 02:25 PM
It will be available only on Thursday evening in Russia.

MD_Titus
03-22-2011, 02:27 PM
Ahhh nope, thought the calendar remark was "i'm missing the calendar" rather than our CE doesnn't come with one

recoilfx
03-22-2011, 02:32 PM
I want that map dammit.

I hope Maddox releases that map in a high quality PDF (all vector) for those of us who can't get the collector's edition. I will then take the pdf and print my own cloth map.

Depending how well this map is designed, I might even want to frame it and hang it on the wall.

Triggaaar
03-22-2011, 02:36 PM
Ahhh nope, thought the calendar remark was "i'm missing the calendar" rather than our CE doesnn't come with oneNo, it meant "I don't have a 2011 calendar, I could do with one, that one could fit the bill nicely :) "

I've order the collectors edition from ubisoft, but I really have no idea when we'll be recieving them. It does seem weird that release dates vary around the world, but personally I don't mind. The later the better, I've got lots of life to get on with before I lose it to CoD.

JG52Krupi
03-22-2011, 03:04 PM
It will be available only on Thursday evening in Russia.

In that case I demand you ignore all your responsibilities and spend the all the time up to the 31st posting videos :grin:

123-Wulf-123
03-22-2011, 03:10 PM
That calendar is tacky beyond words, its the 21st Century FFS not the bloody '70s.

If I want picures of scantily clad girls I will buy a calendar of scantily clad girls.

In what way would anyone think in this day and age a "glamour" calendar for a flight sim is appropriate?

Thankfully (I hope) in UK we will not have the calendar.

Nike-it
03-22-2011, 03:12 PM
In that case I demand you ignore all your responsibilities and spend the all the time up to the 31st posting videos :grin:

Nice suggestion, in this case I think I'll be included into The Guinness Book of Recordsess as a person spent biggest amount of time ingame without rest:)

recoilfx
03-22-2011, 03:15 PM
Nice suggestion, in this case I think I'll be included into The Guinness Book of Recordsess as a person spent biggest amount of time ingame without rest:)

DO IT. For glory! For the rest of us! :)

meshuggahs
03-22-2011, 03:16 PM
I'm so jealous at the moment.
I realy wanted a CE! :(

meshuggahs
03-22-2011, 03:21 PM
That calendar is tacky beyond words, its the 21st Century FFS not the bloody '70s.

If I want picures of scantily clad girls I will buy a calendar of scantily clad girls.

In what way would anyone think in this day and age a "glamour" calendar for a flight sim is appropriate?

Thankfully (I hope) in UK we will not have the calendar.

That calenedar is hands down the best ever. I'd buy one for the office too if I could.

Sven
03-22-2011, 03:27 PM
That calendar is tacky beyond words, its the 21st Century FFS not the bloody '70s.

If I want picures of scantily clad girls I will buy a calendar of scantily clad girls.

In what way would anyone think in this day and age a "glamour" calendar for a flight sim is appropriate?

Thankfully (I hope) in UK we will not have the calendar.


Didn't most of the American planes carried nice ladies on their fuselage as well?;)
I don't see anything wrong with the calendar, in Russia men are real men, in other words they made the right move.:grin:

palker4
03-22-2011, 03:35 PM
It will be available only on Thursday evening in Russia.

Suddenly i want to live in Russia :)

Baron
03-22-2011, 03:35 PM
That calendar is tacky beyond words, its the 21st Century FFS not the bloody '70s.

If I want picures of scantily clad girls I will buy a calendar of scantily clad girls.

In what way would anyone think in this day and age a "glamour" calendar for a flight sim is appropriate?

Thankfully (I hope) in UK we will not have the calendar.



That kind of pinups whas the hottest thing during that time. Its very much linked to WWII warbirds.

albx
03-22-2011, 03:39 PM
It will be available only on Thursday evening in Russia.

sorry, can you tell me a shop in moscow where I can buy it? I'll be there and I WANT ITTTTTTT

please

Gribbers
03-22-2011, 03:57 PM
Nice suggestion, in this case I think I'll be included into The Guinness Book of Recordsess as a person spent biggest amount of time ingame without rest:)

[Slightly] off topic, but does anyone know what the longest recorded flight was: 216hrs 4mins...no landing, no refuelling - imagine how sore their @rses were after that!

Think the longest bombing raid was about 18hrs during WW2.

And I'll be setting my own record for watching your vids on YouTube.

123-Wulf-123
03-22-2011, 04:51 PM
That kind of pinups whas the hottest thing during that time. Its very much linked to WWII warbirds.


They are crude and tacky and really cheapen the product. Its not as if they are even well done or tastefully produced. They look like something from a 70s British glamour rag.
Glamour has its place and its not in a WWII flight sim.

Bowtome
03-22-2011, 04:58 PM
I like the calendar, very 1940's

recoilfx
03-22-2011, 05:00 PM
They are crude and tacky and really cheapen the product. Its not as if they are even well done or tastefully produced. They look like something from a 70s British glamour rag.
Glamour has its place and its not in a WWII flight sim.

Can't see the details from the video so I have no idea if the production is cheap - but from the looks of it, I think you might be the minority here.

wildone_106
03-22-2011, 05:06 PM
No ones forcing you to buy it:rolleyes:


That calendar is tacky beyond words, its the 21st Century FFS not the bloody '70s.

If I want picures of scantily clad girls I will buy a calendar of scantily clad girls.

In what way would anyone think in this day and age a "glamour" calendar for a flight sim is appropriate?

Thankfully (I hope) in UK we will not have the calendar.

Baron
03-22-2011, 06:05 PM
They are crude and tacky and really cheapen the product. Its not as if they are even well done or tastefully produced. They look like something from a 70s British glamour rag.
Glamour has its place and its not in a WWII flight sim.


In the end i dont think it matters. As far as i know the calender will only be available in Russia.

Mango
03-22-2011, 06:40 PM
My wife and I recently agreed that a trip to Moscow now would be too expensive. I'm starting to wonder if that was a mistake....! :D

ytareh
03-22-2011, 06:48 PM
I like the calendar, very 1940's

+1 Down with the naysayer(s)!

Blackdog_kt
03-22-2011, 07:08 PM
oohhh..

first i really wanted it, but somehow i don't care anymore... dunno why.

Only thing i found interesting and really important-looking was the manual, which will also be in de regular version... right?

As a pdf probably. Printed manuals will only by shipped with the collector's edition. The reprinted spitfire notes are also exclusive to the CE.

JG52Krupi
03-22-2011, 10:01 PM
Nice suggestion, in this case I think I'll be included into The Guinness Book of Recordsess as a person spent biggest amount of time ingame without rest:)

:grin: Not fair thats why its being released in Russia first, I was planning on breaking all the gaming related records....

JG27_brook
03-22-2011, 11:09 PM
Burn Stream Burn

Tacoma74
03-23-2011, 12:16 AM
In what way would anyone think in this day and age a "glamour" calendar for a flight sim is appropriate?



Maybe because the game is set in 1940. ;) "Glamour" was all the rage back in those days. If it's so out of place then what exactly do you suggest?! It's completely fine with me, I don't understand your logic whatsoever.

Skoshi Tiger
03-23-2011, 12:21 AM
I've done a search and 2011 calandars combining Battle of Britain Fighter planes and scantily clad girls are quite rare!

Isn't this the first time we've seen actual pictures of the physical game (as apposed to computer generated art)?

Cheers!

kestrel79
03-23-2011, 12:52 AM
How about those people with the game spend less time oogling the girlies on the calendar and more time firing that baby up on a computer and letting us see it in motion!

Tiger27
03-23-2011, 12:57 AM
That calendar is tacky beyond words, its the 21st Century FFS not the bloody '70s.

If I want picures of scantily clad girls I will buy a calendar of scantily clad girls.

In what way would anyone think in this day and age a "glamour" calendar for a flight sim is appropriate?

Thankfully (I hope) in UK we will not have the calendar.

Not sure if you are joking or not, but please leave the PC BS at home, the calender is representing the 1940's and the style of art painted on many bombers.

What on Earth is wrong with pictures of scantily clad girls, I know where I work that calender would not be allowed unless of course it was pictures of scantily clad firemen, we wouldn't want to upset the one or two people in the office that might get upset, so we naturally punish the masses for the minority :rolleyes:

major_setback
03-23-2011, 01:14 AM
I've done a search and 2011 calandars combining Battle of Britain Fighter planes and scantily clad girls are quite rare!

Isn't this the first time we've seen actual pictures of the physical game (as apposed to computer generated art)?

Cheers!

Yes. It seems there are a lot of pictures like this on Russian sites too (Google images):



http://www.3ona51.com/images/products/games/il2_britania_ce/600.jpg

http://www.cdvseti.ru/cd/cdvseti/16185.jpg

http://www.3ona51.com/images/products/games/il2_britania/600.jpg

zapatista
03-23-2011, 01:37 AM
nice to see the russians starting to get their hands on it finally :)

so our steam downloads can start from the 25th for europe and world wide ?

Skoshi Tiger
03-23-2011, 02:16 AM
:grin: Not fair thats why its being released in Russia first, I was planning on breaking all the gaming related records....

I would suggest a couple of reasons.

Maybe because they made it?

Or it could be a form of limited release so they can see if there are any major problems in the release process before letting us Whining Westerners get our mitts on it.

Cheers

Blackdog_kt
03-23-2011, 03:20 AM
The user who uploaded the video apparently is 1cgames, so i guess it's 1c promotional footage showcasing the contents and not some lucky guy getting it a full two days before the official release ;)

I guess retailers in stores have got it delivered and maybe a few very close friends of theirs have managed to pull some favors and secure an early copy, but if there's a date lock on the DRM it's not going to be much use anyway. Maybe that's why they can't really flood youtube with in-game footage for us to see.

I know, i spoiled the fun here but it's just two more days, we'll manage :-P

easyhomewin
03-23-2011, 10:02 AM
http://palgn.com.au/media/pics_inside/art_18268_id_1_mw_520.jpeg

i'm guessing our russian comrades didn't get the pilots guide binder then?

Think i'd prefer that to the girl calender

Nike-it
03-23-2011, 10:05 AM
http://palgn.com.au/media/pics_inside/art_18268_id_1_mw_520.jpeg

i'm guessing our russian comrades didn't get the pilots guide binder then?

Think i'd prefer that to the girl calender

As far as I know, the calendar is not included into collector's edition.

Sternjaeger
03-23-2011, 10:29 AM
lol I'm sorry but I don't care much for the gadgets (HUGE waste of time and money), I'd rather have the game..

Moggy
03-23-2011, 10:35 AM
As far as I know, the calendar is not included into collector's edition.

Well I for 1 am looking forward to receiving my Collector's Edition, calendar or no. Oh and it doesn't bother me in the slightest this very short delay...do you know why?
I've got IL-2 1946 to tide me over in the meantime...job done.

Davy TASB
03-23-2011, 10:43 AM
They are crude and tacky and really cheapen the product. Its not as if they are even well done or tastefully produced. They look like something from a 70s British glamour rag.
Glamour has its place and its not in a WWII flight sim.

Aye up, Mr Mary Whitehouse is on the forums. :grin:

Troll2k
03-23-2011, 11:11 AM
If the calender is not part of the collector's edition than can it be ordered from 1C?

JG52Krupi
03-23-2011, 11:20 AM
I would suggest a couple of reasons.

Maybe because they made it?

Or it could be a form of limited release so they can see if there are any major problems in the release process before letting us Whining Westerners get our mitts on it.

Cheers

:D itwas meant as a joke I don't care when it is released as long as we get it before the americans ;)

kendo65
03-23-2011, 12:31 PM
Aye up, Mr Mary Whitehouse is on the forums. :grin:

Aye! And to quote the great guitar god Nigel Tufnel:

"What's wrong with being sexy?"

;)

---
just raised the cultural tone of this forum by several notches there...

Feathered_IV
03-23-2011, 01:50 PM
I'm pretty happy with my download option. That box art is hideous. Plus I've already got a nicer printed version of the Spitfire manual. The faux escape map looks like a very cheaply made print on synthetic fabric. The ugly logo right in the middle does nothing for it either. The whole collection does not look appealing at all. Good on you if you can find some enjoyment in it though.

Royraiden
03-23-2011, 01:55 PM
I'm pretty happy with my download option. That box art is hideous. Plus I've already got a nicer printed version of the Spitfire manual. The faux escape map looks like a very cheaply made print on synthetic fabric. The ugly logo right in the middle does nothing for it either. The whole collection does not look appealing at all. Good on you if you can find some enjoyment in it though.

Im with you on most of your points,the artwork is completely stupid and that logo in the middle of the channel where most of the action will happen is idiotic to put it mildly.

123-Wulf-123
03-23-2011, 02:44 PM
Aye! And to quote the great guitar god Nigel Tufnel:

"What's wrong with being sexy?"

;)

---
just raised the cultural tone of this forum by several notches there...

Maybe because we are older than 12 years old? :rolleyes:

I'm not against glamour, I just think it cheapens and makes the finished product look TACKY.

So all of you that are talking PC bullshit wind your little red necks in and go and ask mommies permission to look at the so called "glamour" photographs.

Leave the Flight Sims to adults.


LAST WORD ON THIS REALLY TACKY PRODUCTION.

swiss
03-23-2011, 02:55 PM
Mr Wulf, you should move to the U.S., the bible belt would be perfect for you.

Targ
03-23-2011, 03:04 PM
Maybe because we are older than 12 years old? :rolleyes:

I'm not against glamour, I just think it cheapens and makes the finished product look TACKY.

So all of you that are talking PC bullshit wind your little red necks in and go and ask mommies permission to look at the so called "glamour" photographs.

Leave the Flight Sims to adults.


LAST WORD ON THIS REALLY TACKY PRODUCTION.


Talk about tacky...

JG52Krupi
03-23-2011, 03:21 PM
Mr Wulf, you should move to the U.S., the bible belt would be perfect for you.

Ouch but +1

It's a calendar you can use it if you like it, its not like you are being forced to pin it to your forehead!!!!

Far more "tacky" in my opinion is the Ubi logo on the box :P

Bowtome
03-23-2011, 03:23 PM
Ouch but +1

It's a calendar you can use it if you like it, its not like you are being forced to pin it to your forehead!!!!

Far more "tacky" in my opinion is the Ubi logo on the box :P

No ouch +1

The calendar does not detract from the digital code.

You don't like the calendar, don't buy it, geez

JG52Krupi
03-23-2011, 03:25 PM
No ouch +1

The calendar does not detract from the digital code.

You don't like the calendar, don't buy it, geez

The thing is that it is only available in Russia so those that are saying they don't like it and are not in Russia will not be getting it anyway LOL

Nike-it
03-23-2011, 03:29 PM
The thing is that's only available in Russia so those that are saying they don't like it and are not in Russia will not be getting it anyway LOL

Well, the calendar should be distributed in other regions, it was definitely planned not only for Russia.

JG52Krupi
03-23-2011, 03:34 PM
Well, the calendar should be distributed in other regions, it was definitely planned not only for Russia.

Really I could have sworn that someone mentioned on this forum that the calendar might not be in the CE in other countries!!!

Nike-it
03-23-2011, 03:35 PM
Really I could have sworn that someone mentioned on this forum that the calendar might not be in the CE in other countries!!!

I heard from Luthier that it was made for all markets.

Vevster
03-23-2011, 03:49 PM
Really I could have sworn that someone mentioned on this forum that the calendar might not be in the CE in other countries!!!


Yup, that's what I read too, and the calendar is not mentionned on Ubi' CEs

That would be nice to have it :grin:

JG52Krupi
03-23-2011, 03:51 PM
I heard from Luthier that it was made for all markets.

There you go I know more than Luither then :rolleyes:

Good to hear, when the year is up I will keep the cover it looks cool

jcenzano
03-23-2011, 05:52 PM
Im with you on most of your points,the artwork is completely stupid and that logo in the middle of the channel where most of the action will happen is idiotic to put it mildly.

Well, there are not many things to map on the water and I don´t think you are going to use the cloth map to plot your mission´s route over the water, are you?

I agree that I would have preferred a map without a gigantic logo, but if they were going to put the loge there anyway, better over the water where they dont cover any landmark.

If the logo is also on the PDF/software version of the map and you are going to get a print of the map to plot your missions on, it is quite easy to get rid of that with basic photoshop knoledge.

jcenzano
03-23-2011, 06:02 PM
Maybe because we are older than 12 years old? :rolleyes:

I'm not against glamour, I just think it cheapens and makes the finished product look TACKY.

So all of you that are talking PC bullshit wind your little red necks in and go and ask mommies permission to look at the so called "glamour" photographs.

Leave the Flight Sims to adults.


LAST WORD ON THIS REALLY TACKY PRODUCTION.

Look buddy, the freaking calendar is "inspired" in the artwork and aviation philosophy of that WWII time. If you can not understand that, and you stick to the ultra-politically-correct-nonsense of today, then why do you play a game based on a WAR in which millions of people died????

What kind of hypocrit complains about not-even-naked ladies and has fun playing how to kill people??

Believe me, until not much long ago (and in a lot of countries you can find it still today), the walls of fighter squadrons rooms have been covered with pictures of ladies with far less clothes than the ones on this "tacky" calendar.

Coen020
03-23-2011, 07:01 PM
Look buddy, the freaking calendar is "inspired" in the artwork and aviation philosophy of that WWII time. If you can not understand that, and you stick to the ultra-politically-correct-nonsense of today, then why do you play a game based on a WAR in which millions of people died????

What kind of hypocrit complains about not-even-naked ladies and has fun playing how to kill people??

Believe me, until not much long ago (and in a lot of countries you can find it still today), the walls of fighter squadrons rooms have been covered with pictures of ladies with far less clothes than the ones on this "tacky" calendar.

I think you mix up tacky with the term politically correct. Nevertheless he is entitled to his own opinion. I understand his point of view about the tackiness-level. But i agree with the others that it's just part of a bygone era. However i don't agree with you.

Now let's continue too drool and kwool over this amazing game which wil be relinguished by its creators in a matter of hours.

BobTuck
03-23-2011, 07:27 PM
Hey, If any Russians and/or 'Adults' don't want their pin-up calendar, then you can donate it to me! :grin:

Seriously though, if it's not in our CE packs, how do we get hold of a copy?

BobTuck.

jcenzano
03-23-2011, 08:31 PM
I think you mix up tacky with the term politically correct. Nevertheless he is entitled to his own opinion. I understand his point of view about the tackiness-level. But i agree with the others that it's just part of a bygone era. However i don't agree with you.

Now let's continue too drool and kwool over this amazing game which wil be relinguished by its creators in a matter of hours.

Exactly about what you don´t agree with me?
Of course everybody is entitled to have and support his/her (to be politically correct) own opinion.
And maybe I understood it wrong, but what 123-wulf-123 was saying is that to offer that calendar with pinup girls was not appropriate for a 21st century product.
And that is where my point about hypocresy fits right in. Is it more appropiate to play a game in which you kill people?
Take note that i am merely playing devils advocate here, since I have already bought and I will joyfully play (I hope) COD.
COD is an adult product, and if I can take as an adult to play to shoot down airplanes, bomb the sh** out of cities, be a nazi... then I can also take as an adult some "vintage-looking WWII-fashion pinup calendar".
BIG POINT IS that the calendar is not about the ladies, IT IS ABOUT THE 40´S STYLE.

I could get to agree (actually I don´t) that the products (calendar and sim) don´t fit together, but INAPROPRIATE??? Come on...

major_setback
03-23-2011, 11:37 PM
lol I'm sorry but I don't care much for the gadgets (HUGE waste of time and money), I'd rather have the game..

Well, hopefully some of that money will go to the right place. That is my main reasoning for supporting the boxed edition. And as a general show of appreciation.

diveplane
03-24-2011, 01:51 AM
how about a indepth video showing some of the features as well plz.

Feathered_IV
03-24-2011, 02:42 AM
One might pause to consider the irony of a game that was initially intended for release in 2007, being shipped with it's own calendar.
:rolleyes:

Defender
03-24-2011, 03:00 AM
Love the calender idea. Sure beats a pair of plastic dog tags or a lame plastic helmet.

acare84
03-24-2011, 07:45 AM
Collectors Edition doesn't have ingame extras right? Thank you.

JG52Uther
03-24-2011, 08:21 AM
So,today is THE day in Russia! Exciting times ahead.

Nike-it
03-24-2011, 08:54 AM
So,today is THE day in Russia! Exciting times ahead.

I'll post some pics after the event in the evening:)

Nike-it
03-24-2011, 08:54 AM
Collectors Edition doesn't have ingame extras right? Thank you.

No, it doesn't

Tvrdi
03-24-2011, 08:54 AM
I'll post some pics after the event in the evening:)

cool thanks

meshuggahs
03-24-2011, 08:56 AM
Collectors Edition doesn't have ingame extras right? Thank you.

No, it doesn't

Wrong. You get massive ingame bragging rights alongside the CE! :grin:

JG52Krupi
03-24-2011, 09:06 AM
Wrong. You get massive ingame bragging rights alongside the CE! :grin:

I heard you get extra aircraft skins, more pilot accessories and start off with level 1 cannons on you spitfire and the bf109s have laser cannons if you purchase the CE!!!

Personally I'm going for the adolf galland pack you have a case of cigars and a mirror for the 109

Nike-it
03-24-2011, 09:16 AM
I'll ask Oleg in the evening, but as far as I know, there are no ingame extracts in it.

Nike-it
03-24-2011, 09:27 AM
Finally both versions arrived at our office!

albx
03-24-2011, 09:36 AM
Finally both versions arrived at our office!

INSTALL IT! INSTALL IT! lol

Kankkis
03-24-2011, 09:39 AM
HOLY MOSES, we want videos, we want videos. How many hours when Russian gamers can activate the game?

Kankkis

Nike-it
03-24-2011, 09:45 AM
HOLY MOSES, we want videos, we want videos. How many hours when Russian gamers can activate the game?

Kankkis

At 12pm Moscow time

Kankkis
03-24-2011, 09:51 AM
hmm i see, so 25.03, there is some night selling, did i understand correctly?

Robert
03-24-2011, 09:57 AM
At 12pm Moscow time


Noon today - Thursday? Or do you mean 12 AM - Thursday into Friday morning?

albx
03-24-2011, 09:58 AM
At 12pm Moscow time

are you sure you don't mean 12AM, this night?

Nike-it
03-24-2011, 10:02 AM
Sorry, my bad, 12AM

Kankkis
03-24-2011, 10:02 AM
yep, clock is in Moscow 13.02PM at this time

ok, so 11 hours to go......

Robert
03-24-2011, 10:03 AM
Sorry, my bad, 12AM



DAMMIT man! This isn't UBI! LOL. No problem Nike-it. Glad you're here entertaining us latch key simmers.

Nike-it
03-24-2011, 10:04 AM
hmm i see, so 25.03, there is some night selling, did i understand correctly?

The selling starts at 7PM, the actual activation starts at 12AM

Kankkis
03-24-2011, 10:05 AM
Ok, Thanks Nike

albx
03-24-2011, 10:09 AM
the activation servers will be flooded tonight :P

123-Wulf-123
03-24-2011, 12:32 PM
I got an ashtray as well :)

Propwash_
03-25-2011, 10:13 AM
"Never in the annals of history have so many flights simmers owed so much to so few Russians" :grin:

Cpt Dremmen
03-25-2011, 12:57 PM
Oh dear oh dear....prop feathered, engine out, canopy open:( ...going in

Vevster
03-25-2011, 01:02 PM
I heard from Luthier that it was made for all markets.

The CE for EMEA doesn't have it for sure.