Which Aircraft Will You Choose?

[bw_wolverine]

As we get closer and closer and closer to maybe possibly actually having this game, I wanted to ask people which plane they're going to adopt for the battle of britain and why. Also, do you play in an organized community? What time do you play online? Maybe we can help get people who want to be part of something bigger involved in online wars or squadrons. Might be a better use of time and forum space than another argument about Steam or Freetrack.

As for me:

Plane?: Hurricane

Why?: My friends and I play missions in IL-2 with the P-40E. When we start flying as a squadron in CloD I think we'll find it an easier transition to the Hurricane. Also, we proudly fight for the allies in this virtual war.

Organized?: Roughly four or five of us play IL-2 with some regularity but not part of a larger online war. We fly as the Bad Wolf Squadron (not historical). We're fairly casual, but can step up the discipline when required.

When?: We fly around 8:00pm EST (Eastern Canada/USA)

[Sternjaeger]

interesting question: I'm quite looking forward to try the smaller planes, on which I have some moderate experience (350 hrs on the Tiggie and 24 on the Bf108) and want to see what they achieved there. After that I'm very curious to try the lot, esp the twin engine boys.

Having said this all.. I'm quite fought between the 109 and Spitfire..

[ghodan]

Pikachu i choose you!

(Bf019)

[Skoshi Tiger]

As long as I can strap a lewis gun on me Tiger Moth, I'll be right!

[TheGrunch]

The Hurricane's appealing to me at the moment. :) I'll fly the Tiger Moth training section first though.

[ATAG_Dutch]

As long as I can strap a lewis gun on me Tiger Moth, I'll be right!

Too much RoF, Skoshi?!

At the earliest opportunity, I'll set up a solo Spit flight at Dawn, do some aerobatics over the airfield, edit the track, capture the footage and make a short film, adding Elgar's Nimrod from the Enigma Variations.

Then I'll watch it a lot, and compare it to the identical thing I did with IL2.

After I've done the full training thing in the Tiger, I'm hoping to go direct to a Spit squadron, coz I always find Hurris awkward in IL2.

I can usually be found getting shot down a lot on UKDed1, any evening from 9.00pm - ish UK time, and expect to be doing the same with CoD, as long as my connection is good enough.

Spit for me, every time!;)

As to team issues, does anyone recall whether voicecomms are part of the package, or will we be using Teamspeak?

[robtek]

My squad and me will fly.........

the Bf110 of course.

And this time not as close escort, but in a free hunt or as low level surprise on some english airport. :-D

[Baron]

I think im gonna try out the Bf-110 online after some practice. Something tells me its gonna be a killer.

[meplay]

I really cant wait to have a fly of the Bristol Blenheim:)

[Foo'bar]

At the moment I can't say what I'll be happier about: 110 or 88. I think I will take them both ;)

[Jaws2002]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/<FA>Jaws/grab0168.jpg


This should be quite a challange. Can't wait.:-P

[maclean525]

I'll be in the Hurricane 'cause I'm rubbish and need to focus on shooting down big slow bombers and stay well away from the 109's :)

[JG53Frankyboy]

i paid the full price for the game, so i will fly all planes...

but in general, online i will fly mostly bombers :) , of any kind :D


about onlinewars, i doubt the BoB scenario makes sense for a COOP based one :(
so, it will be mainly scripted (i hope it will be possible) 'dogfight' maps online i guess.

[docmev]

The good old BF 109, my old love ...

[kikque]

Nice little thread, feels like ducking into a doorway during a rainstorm with all the moaning on the other threads ;). I'm new to the forum but I've played a lot of IL2 online over the years and I hope the CoD community will be even better.

I'm looking forward to flying the Luftwaffe aircraft, especially the Ju-88 and 87. I always loved taking a bomber up and running the gauntlet against the fighters online (silly I know, but occasionally I'd make it :)). On the RAF front I'm thinking the Spitfire and Tiger Moth. I had a flight in a Tiger Moth for my birthday and it was one of the best moments in my life.

I'm definitely up for joining a UK online group once everything is up and running. Anybody recommend anything for casual play (or is it too soon to know yet?). :)

[GnigruH]

Hurricane.

Cos' if you shot down bf 109 with aircraft of equal performance, he will always complain that this thing you fly is ufo.
If you smash them in inferior machine, there's usually much less bitching.
And it's like teaching them a lesson.

Bf-110

Early war is the only time when it can hold its own. A pair of it of course.

[TheGrunch]

I'm with GnigruH, he's got my two favourite choices on each side. :D I won't be doing any teaching of lessons though, I bet. :lol:

[bw_wolverine]

I'm with GnigruH, he's got my two favourite choices on each side. :D I won't be doing any teaching of lessons though, I bet. :lol:

I agree. If I fly any of the german planes for any length of time, I'll probably make it the 110. Having the two engines makes for interesting situations that you otherwise don't get.

Some of my best memories from IL-2 are when flying an A-10 or B-25 and having to come home with one engine smoking and feathered.

[schilla22]

I'm looking forward to this one :grin:
http://www.toystore.info/images/CORSAIR-PEDAL-PLANE.jpg

In all reality like some have mentioned, Im looking forward to all of them. But if I really had to choose. Would have to be the Spitfire. Ever since reading "Fly For Your Life" (biography about RS Tuck) and "Reach For The Sky" (biography about Douglas Bader) when I was probably around 8 years old, I've just been in love with the Spit ever since.

[Tacoma74]

1. Bf-109 E-3
2. Spitfire MkIIb (If it's included)
3. Bf-110 C-7 (If flyable)

Really looking forward to the addition of the good ol' Fw-190A. Then I'll be in paradise for sure. See you guys in the sky.. well eventually! :-P

[kimosabi]

Sukhoi SU26 and use it as BnZ fighter.

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Hurricanes for me,but as others,a wee spell in the old Tiger Moth first,sort of get aquainted with all things mechanical.

Maybe then,after tea and cakes in the mess,a trip down to the coast to nail some 'orrible 'uns!!:-)

[Sauf]

Tiger Moth to start with, then I will become a renegade and jump in the BF109

[zauii]

Bf109 =)

[JG4_Helofly]

1. Bf-109 E-3
2. Spitfire MkIIb (If it's included)
3. Bf-110 C-7 (If flyable)

Really looking forward to the addition of the good ol' Fw-190A. Then I'll be in paradise for sure. See you guys in the sky.. well eventually! :-P

+1 Being a 190 fan ;)

For now, I am looking forward to fly every single plane. Especially the tiger moth and the 109.

[Zorin]

1. TigerMoth (still can't believe there is no German trainer...)
2. Bf-110
3. Bf-108 (given we can fly them on externals like in IL-2)
4. Fw-200 (given we can fly them on externals like in IL-2)

[GOA_Potenz]

First i will chose 109, then He-111

[Fritz X]

3. Bf-108 (given we can fly them on externals like in IL-2)
4. Fw-200 (given we can fly them on externals like in IL-2)

We all have our dreams... Hopefully they'll become true :)

Guess I'll start with the Tiger Moth as well. Then going to take a flight with my dear Bf 109.

Still not sure what to think about the Su-26... Even if it's just a "benchmark", I'm not really happy about it being in the game. Oh well...

[LBR=H.Ostermann]

The powerful, Bf 110 here

[*Buzzsaw*]

I'll be in the Hurricane 'cause I'm rubbish and need to focus on shooting down big slow bombers and stay well away from the 109's :)

Historically the Hurricane shot down only slightly less 109's than the Spit, and shot down more bombers.

I'll try the Tiger Moth first, then the Hurri with the two speed prop... just cause I like 'crap' planes. :)

[recoilfx]

Hurricane offline - because that's the BoB RAF plane.
Spit & BF 109 online - Hurris going against 109s is gonna be a bit tough.

[Blackdog_kt]

My squad and me will fly.........

the Bf110 of course.

And this time not as close escort, but in a free hunt or as low level surprise on some english airport. :-D

I usually fly axis in IL2 and most of all the 190 series. Since that's not available i will have to settle for the 109 but the limited endurance is an issue, so i might switch to the 110. On the other hand, i'm not a real fan of any of the fighter aircraft, so i will also spend quite some time in the twin-engined bombers. If the crewmen can be somewhat interacted with in a useful way, the 110 could be a good combination of both styles.

I don't really fly online very often, i get the urge once every couple of months and spend a month or so flying on a couple of servers that i like, then i disappear again for another couple of months.

As such, i can't be part of an organized group. However, i have no problem teaming up with other server regulars who fly "freelance", especially if we have a few common sorties under our belt and i'm somewhat familiar with how they do things. Part of my infrequent online flying is also some connectivity troubles i had with IL2 after switching to a new router and i haven't really taken the time to fix those, so maybe i'll be online more often if i take care of that. Especially if we get a semi-dynamic online mini-campaign mode.

I have gotten a friend of mine back into flight sims with IL2 and maybe i could have a semi-regular wingman to fly with, but he's fixated on the Spit's looks and the Hurri's ease of handling to the point that it will be hard to convince him to try the opposite side. Serves me right for learning the basics of FMB and creating a spitfire coop mission just so i could show him the ropes, now he's averse to every energy fighter because he's used to aircraft that are good in turnfights :-P

That's it as far as online goes, for offline i'll probably fly everything as i'm going to go through the tiger moth training and both campaigns, then use the QMB to try out the bombers.

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

Here's a clue :)

https://webspace.utexas.edu/joem/Pilots/FavoriteAces.jpg



and of course, what Jaws said.

S!

Gunny

[ATAG_Doc]

They choose you. You don't choose them.

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

They choose you. You don't choose them.

Best answer :)

Wish I'd thought of that!

Salute

Gunny

[Sauf]

I Look forward to flying a misson with you Blackdog, it will be quicker than reading your posts :)

[Voyager]

Until the P-47 comes in, whichever allied fighter has the best roll rate, with probably actually means the Hurricane and Typhoon, whenever it comes out.

Everybody knows what the Spitfires are going to do, but when you see someone in a Hurricane, you really gotta wonder what's going through their mind.

[USAF77]

I'll be the first to admit it. Im a Spit-dweeb. Always been one, always will be.;)

[Blackdog_kt]

I Look forward to flying a misson with you Blackdog, it will be quicker than reading your posts :)

Nah, not really. I'm usually one of the "play it safe" guys when flying online, always trying to stay above and to the edge of the furballs, making a pass and getting back out. I've had sorties where i took off with a full tank and landed with 10% fuel and a lot of ammo after an hour or so and only 1-2 kills.

However, when i get jumped by someone with an advantage, it does tend to be over fairly quick :-P

It's how things usually go online: risk takers have a lot of kills and deaths, people who play careful have less. However, the overall ratio tends to favor the risk takers, because by putting themselves in dangerous situations they gradually learn to defend better and be better with the stick and rudder ;)

[Osprey]

XIII internally run faction sections, I run the RAF one and we operate as No.501 County of Gloucester (Auxillery) Squadron and No.64 Squadron, both operated from RAF Kenley and Croydon during their time in the BoB. 501 will fly Hurricanes and 64 will fly Spitfires. We are jolly well excited to get in our kites up into the blue to give Jerry a black eye.

[Squid_DK]

I guess I'm alone, I liked Speedy D in Pacific Fighters and I always loved steep dives, so I'm on the JU-87 & -88 Nothing like divebombing and standing om the brakes!

Staffan

[ATAG_Bliss]

All those interested in a squad should check us out. We are international with pilots from all over the world. We will have 1 if not several Cliffs of Dover MP servers up. Our main goal is having fun, with squad members ranging from very experienced virtual fliers to those brand new to simming.

We also have a new website: www.SyndicateSquadron.com

Come drop a line ;)

[desmodronic]

109E for me. If it is anything like the IL2 version I'll be right at home.

[Fansadox]

Bf110 since it has magic all over it

[zakkandrachoff]

http://airalex.homestead.com/files/he162painting.jpg

:eek:

[Flying Pencil]

Do-17z/215!!!1!1one!

Soon as it's flyable. ;)

[Friendly_flyer]

I've always had a soft spots for the underdog. I'll be restricted to offline for a while (house full of toddlers, won't be able to play a full mission through), so I plan to take it slow and do the Tigermoth and Gladiator for training, then settle into a Hurricane. In IL2 I prefer the Hurricane over the Spitfire. I guess I'm too old and slow to draw full benefit from the extra manoeuvrability, but the stability of the old Hurribird is very much appreciated. For the German side I'm with the 110 crowd, though released from their historical tactical limitations I think they are may become fearful weapons.

Having done that, I think I'll go fully masochistic and go for the Blenheim...

[Blackdog_kt]

That's a nice progression you got there Friendly_Flyer. I think i'll fly the twin engined birds a lot.

I like the early 109s as a fighter option but the lack of fuel is a concern. What i don't know about is the kind of reservoir size vs fuel consumption rates correlation/range etc on the Italian aircraft.

It would be interesting to see everyone flying G50s if they can range longer than the 109s :-P

EDIT: Apparently it's not going happen... range was about 670km (418 miles) according to wikipedia
In September 1940, 20° Gruppo (Squadriglie 351/352/353), commanded by Maggiore Mario Bonzano, equipped with Fiat G.50 was part of the 56° Stormo formed to operate during the Battle of Britain as part of the Corpo Aereo Italiano based in Belgium, with 18° Gruppo (Fiat CR.42). Their use was hampered by their slow speed, open cockpits and short range. At the beginning of 1941, the C.A.I. came back in Italy, except for two G.50 Squadriglie that stayed in Belgium with Luftflotte 2, until April. While with the C.A.I. the Fiats flew 429 missioni-velivoli (missions), 34 escorts and 26 scrambles but could not manage to engage enemy aircraft. One aircraft was lost and seven more were damaged. While with Luftflotte 2, 20° Gruppo lost four additional fighters and two pilots were killed (Roncali (13 February 1941) and Meneghini (3 April), both of 352a Squadriglia), while two G.50s were damaged by German fighters and flak.[16] [N 1]

The experiences of the early series G.50s over Britain showed the inadequacies of the type. Its operations were almost useless in the campaign because they were too short-ranged and stationed too away from England. The G.50s had limited endurance, with missions rarely exceeding one hour. The G.50bis with larger fuel tanks was already in production, but it was not sent to 20° Gruppo in time. Performance was also lacking; when 22 Fiat G.50s intercepted several Hawker Hurricanes on 5 November 1940, the RAF fighters easily escaped. On 21 November, when a Bristol Blenheim attacked the Medgelem airfield two G.50s scrambled, but lost the bomber in the clouds. On 23 November, G.50s followed four Hurricanes, but were unable to close on them. Another fruitless intercept took place on 31 January, when G.50s lost a Blenheim that escaped into the clouds. The last sighting of enemy aircraft (fighters) occurred on 8 April 1941, when, once again, the elusive targets were not intercepted.

The G.50s were early models with an open canopy, useful in Mediterranean climes, but the pilots suffered heavily in the bad weather of northern Europe. The aircraft was also under-equipped, with a mediocre radio set (powered by batteries, prone to freeze at altitude) and lacking any armour protection. [N 2] In Belgium, 20° Gruppo had the opportunity to see the Bf 109 in action with several G.50 pilots trained top fly the type with two Bf 109Es sent to the Gruppo in mid-January 1941.[18]

The G.50s returned to Italy and later the 20° Gruppo had the G.50bis that had the endurance required for operational missions utilizing an extra fuel tank in the internal fuselage section originally configured as a bomb bay, but this series was primarily utilized over Africa. In the second half of the war, the G.50 operated as a multirole fighter/ground attack aircraft, with external bombs only.[19] During the opening phase of the Allied invasion of Sicily, the G.50 was the most numerous aircraft used by the Regia Aeronautica to counter attack the Allied landings.[20] Just before the invasion, the Regia Aeronautica moved to Southern Italy. 50° Stormo Assalto, a specialized ground attack unit was equipped with Fiat G.50bis fighter-bombers. As soon the invasion started, on 10 July 1943, further units were rushed to the area.[21] With other Italian and German ground attack units, 45 Fiat G.50bis of 158° and 159° Gruppi Assalto, from Pistoia [20] were committed to attack ships, landing craft and troops. On 11 July, 10 of them were in action with Re.2002s (escorted by five Re.2005s of 362a Squadriglia), when they were intercepted by an overwhelming fighter “umbrella”. Three G.50s were shot down, including Tenente Colonnello Guido Nobili, commander of 5° Stormo Assalto.[22] The remainder landed on an airfield but were destroyed by an incoming air attack.

That's one of the better wikipedia articles i've seen, it's got lot of interesting information on the type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.50

[choctaw111]

I can't wait to try out the Hurri. As much as I have always loved the Spit, the Hurri seems to be the plane I am leaning toward trying out first.
The 110 will be next.

[BadAim]

In Il2 I'm a 109 guy, but I never got the hang of the Emil. I think I'll start with the good Ole Tigermoth and progress from there as I'm comfortable. I do look forward to flying every single plane though, 'cause that's how I roll, baby!

[Defender]

I'm going to have to have a go at all variations of German and English fighters/bombers. Not to interested in the Italian birds, but nice that they're there and maybe one day ;).

Tiger Moth to learn the ropes, Spit to start. For no other reason than my gramps and his stories. Of course I'll have to learn the 109 and 110 to better understand it's weaknesses and how to exploit them ;).

Ultimately if it was spin the bottle to choose a plane to master, I don't think any choice would disappoint, I can find joy in all offered.

[Rickusty]

Well.... I've always had a soft spot for the underdogs and the under-known warplanes, so I'll surely stick with the G.50.
Too bad the Fiat C.R.42 isn't yet available, as I would surely pick that nice bird.
Same with the Glad.
Also, I like the heavy 12,7mm machine guns, and I'm sure this time around they will be as effective as they were in reality!

FIAT airplanes were in general inferior to other Italian types of warplanes (especially Macchi). As to why the Regia Aeronautica chose to send the Fiat "trio" (br 20,g.50 and cr42) is beyond me.
Why couldn't sey send the good and fast Cant. Z.1007bis escorted by better fighters (like Macchi C.200, that were as fast as Hurricanes) ?

Anyway:

1) Fiat G.50 "Freccia"
2) Blenheim
3) Other kind of bombers
4) Other fighters

Cheers!

[scissorss]

I've always enjoyed flying the JU-87, probably hone in my skills with the beast. But I also like the Hurricanes... so I'll swing both ways :P
I really hope the sirens of impending doom are installed on the Stuka's in CoD!

[=KAG=Bersrk]

Wir, Zerstorer!
:)
Bf110C-7 obly and forever! Untill Bf110E-2 will come...

[baronWastelan]

Ju-52

[wannabetheace]

1. Bf-109 E-3
2. Spitfire MkIIb (If it's included)
3. Bf-110 C-7 (If flyable)


1+

[Damixu]

Fieseler Fi-156 Storch and I'll wipe all of you from the sky. =P

[He111]

Ummm .. He 111 .. I've griped to Goering that i need close support so all you 110s and 109 better stay close, i want to see the whites of your eye! :cool:

He111.

[JG52Krupi]

1) spitfire or hurricane (Haven't decided)

2) 109

3) Bristol beaufighter.

[tillobert]

109!!!!

[Friendly_flyer]

Which version of the Ju 88 do we get? I really like her in IL2, but I seem to remember the version that flew during the BoB was still having considerably teething problems.

For the German side, I would really have loved to have the Do 17 Schnellbomber flyable. They did some daring low level stuff early on, which is the way I like to fly bombers (suicidal, I know).

[Peck]

One Ten

[Blackdog_kt]

1) spitfire or hurricane (Haven't decided)

2) 109

3) Bristol beaufighter.

I think the Beaufighter is AI only. I would like to fly it as well.

[sallee]

Am I allowed just to put a Defiant on the ground and stare at it until I get tired?

[zakkandrachoff]

One Ten

One O Ten

"U-A-N O-U T-E-N"

[Sven]

Have thought long about it, but every time I end up depicting myself in a 109:grin:

After that the Heinkel 111, of course, beautiful plane;)

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/aircraft/bomber/heinkel-he-111-bomber/heinkel-he-111-bomber-04.png

Does anyone know if that's Franz von Werra's lion, or were they just popular mascots? :)

[zakkandrachoff]

One Ten

One O Ten

"U-A-N O-U T-E-N"

ouch, my mistake:

One O Nine

:rolleyes:

[Blackdog_kt]

Have thought long about it, but every time I end up depicting myself in a 109:grin:

After that the Heinkel 111, of course, beautiful plane;)

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/aircraft/bomber/heinkel-he-111-bomber/heinkel-he-111-bomber-04.png

Does anyone know if that's Franz von Werra's lion, or were they just popular mascots? :)

No idea if it's his lion but i guess weird "pets" were popular with pilots in general, especially if we consider that he wasn't the first. I've read a few WWI memoirs online, including Eddie Rickenbaker's (i think it's out of print and available for free on some history websites, google it up), according to some of those books the US volunteer Escadrille Lafayette also had a lion mascot.

There's an awesome story that Raul Lufberry went AWOL for a whole week and when he was finally discovered bar-hopping in the bistros and restaurants of Paris, he was taking a stroll with a wine bottle in one hand and a full-grown lion on a leash in the other, but i don't know if it's confirmed or simply a legend. What most people agree on as reliable information however is that the lion's name was Whiskey :grin:

[Mauloch]

Hurricane with the Canadian 242 squadron codes on tail so the bastages in the bombers I just raked know who too blame! Neck on swivel watching for the 110 or 109 escort at all times tho.

Wish me luck, I'm always in need of that!

[engarde]

As we get closer and closer and closer to maybe possibly actually having this game, I wanted to ask people which plane they're going to adopt for the battle of britain and why. Also, do you play in an organized community? What time do you play online? Maybe we can help get people who want to be part of something bigger involved in online wars or squadrons. Might be a better use of time and forum space than another argument about Steam or Freetrack.

As for me:

Plane?: Hurricane

Why?: My friends and I play missions in IL-2 with the P-40E. When we start flying as a squadron in CloD I think we'll find it an easier transition to the Hurricane. Also, we proudly fight for the allies in this virtual war.

Organized?: Roughly four or five of us play IL-2 with some regularity but not part of a larger online war. We fly as the Bad Wolf Squadron (not historical). We're fairly casual, but can step up the discipline when required.

When?: We fly around 8:00pm EST (Eastern Canada/USA)

The 109.

as a child i was just mesmerised by its shape.

i can remember coming home from primary school to my working prop, working gear and control surface 109G model in 1/48 size, and sometimes just lying on the floor staring at it.

i chose it from the shop, my father helped me build it.

keep in mind the internet simply didnt exist, computers were certainly not in the home and all the aircraft info i could get was in rarely bought magazines.

the 109E with the blue sides and black top?

evokes memories of those times, all these years later.

heheheh in another style of analogy, metaphor etc.... the spitfire was the barbi doll blonde and blue.

yeah, nice. Yawn.

the 109 was the bigger hipped, bigger chested raven haired dark eyed smoldering mystery with ruby red lips....

.... just so much more intoxicatingly attractive?

:)

[JG52Krupi]

I think the Beaufighter is AI only. I would like to fly it as well.

Wondered when someone was going to point that out, it matters not I think most of my time will be spent mastering the 109, even though I'm a Brit I love the 109 and 190.

IMHO the spitfire is still the most glamorous aircraft ever and the 109/190 the most brutal looking war machines.

[JG53Frankyboy]

not to forgett the CoD AI Beufighter will be an IF , a pure nightfighter version. Not the 'brutal' fighterbomber of later years as it is better known :)